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  1. #766

    Re: The Kitchen

    The article above is a total bullshit. Human cultures have exchanged food ingredients, cooking methods etc. for millenia. It's our strength, it goes in all directions and broadly helps to feed everyone. The author should climb off his/her high tower and go do something useful in life.

    Sorry for being so direct, but a spade is a spade.
    Roger forever

  2. #767

    Re: The Book Thread

    Exhibit A in cultural appropriation:

    New NYC Chinese Restaurant Draws Swift Backlash to Racist Language [Updated]

    Newly opened Lucky Lee’s is facing backlash to racist language, like an Instagram post that claimed dishes like lo mein at Chinese-American restaurants leave diners “bloated and icky”
    by Stefanie Tuder@stefanietuder Apr 9, 2019, 10:13am EDT

    A new fast-casual Chinese restaurant has been open for one day in Greenwich Village, and it’s already going viral for what some are calling racist positioning.

    Lucky Lee’s comes from nutritionist Arielle Haspel, who tells Eater she created this restaurant with modified, “clean” Chinese-American recipes for “people who love to eat Chinese food and love the benefit that it will actually make them feel good.” She says she had many clients with dietary restrictions who couldn’t “indulge” in dishes like lo mein, fried rice, and kung pao chicken, so she developed gluten-, wheat-, refined sugar-, GMO-, and additive-free versions of them — or, as she says, she wanted to “healthify” them.

    An Instagram post that was removed after Eater questioned Haspel about it read, “We heard you’re obsessed with lo mein but rarely eat it. You said it makes you feel bloated and icky the next day? Well, wait until you slurp up our HIGH lo mein. Not too oily. Or salty.”

    Phrasing like that has drawn swift backlash on social media, with one person posting, “This white woman just opened a ‘clean’ Chinese food restaurant ... not only is she using Chinese food stereotypes/naming, she is shaming traditional Chinese food cooking with MSG/grease/starch.”

    Haspel says she “steers away” from MSG “since [it] is something that people claim to have certain reactions to” — despite acknowledging there is no scientific evidence of this.

    “There are very few American-Chinese places as mindful about the quality of ingredients as we are,” she says. “We’re excited to offer it to people who want this type of food, and it can make them feel good and they can workout after and they can feel focused after and it will add to their health.”

    When asked if she thinks this positioning contributes to well-documented historically racist Chinese stereotypes, Haspel says she is “here to celebrate” Chinese-American food.

    “I love love love American Chinese food. I made some tweaks so I would be able to eat it and my friends and other people would be able to eat it,” she says. “I am by all means never ever looking to put down a culture at all. I am very inclusive, and we’re here to celebrate the culture.”

    She says they’re doing that by including “a lot of Chinese elements” like “lucky bamboo” and jade.

    Haspel has supporters on Yelp and Twitter, but many disagree with her thinking: Lucky Lee’s Yelp page has already been flooded with negative reviews.

    “Love to watch a Becky go bankrupt for racist appropriation,” one writes, while another says, “This restaurant uses racist tropes to position itself as better than a traditionally Chinese-owned restaurant for no good reason.”

    In response to the backlash, the restaurant posted a defense of the concept and its positioning, writing that the owners “promise you to always listen and reflect accordingly.” The note again touted the food as “clean,” adding that, “When we talk about our food, we are not talking about other restaurants, we are only talking about Lucky Lee’s.”

    Update: April 9, 2019, 12:20 p.m.: This article was updated to include the social media response from the restaurant.
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb

  3. #768

    Re: The Kitchen

    Wow. Very confused on why she didn't just market it as Gluten free Chinese food and leave it at that.

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    Re: The Kitchen

    Gluten free can actually be very unhealthy with all the substitutes. It seems like her intent was much more encompassing than that.

  5. #770

    Re: The Kitchen

    One of the best food travelogues I've seen (aside from Bourdain's may he RIP) is "Street Food" on Netflix. The first of the series is dedicated to Asia.

    Each episode is half an hour long. The editing and cinematography is wonderful, and you meet some interesting people and get a better understanding of why street food is such is big part of many Asian cultures.

    There is only one place I came away saying I wouldn't eat street food there but I still enjoyed the story.

    It's well worth your while. There are 9 episodes.
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb

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