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  1. #316

    Re: Covid19 & Tennis

    Some responses to the proposal in the above article:

    Oleg S.
    @AnnaK_4ever
    That's the least of their problems.
    What they are 'considering' for USO (i.e. no doubles and qualies, no physios) is unfeasible and, frankly, pointless.

    A tennis nerd
    @grudell
    Replying to
    @christophclarey
    How is this financially viable and even makes sense? At an average tix price of $50 (which I assume is low) and conservative 650,000 paying fans =$32.5M. Where is that money going to come from? ESPN TV revenue?
    Naomi Morse
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    @christophclarey
    I hope they think hard about playing 2 out of 3 in the early rounds and allowing the players to have a coach and physio on-site seems reasonable to me.
    Oleg S.
    @AnnaK_4ever
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    @AnnaK_4ever
    Expected reaction.

    Vekic: "Really the worst thing is if we can only come with one team member. I just don’t see how that is going to be possible and how the top players are going to accept that."
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  2. #317

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    Wouldn't it be that you can travel with as many people you'd like, but only one will be allowed to be on site. That would still work.
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  3. #318

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    Marca: ATP Invites Players To Zoom Call To Discuss Upcoming Schedule
    June 2, 2020
    The meeting is set to be held on Wednesday, June 10.

    STARNBERG, June 2, 2020

    According to Spanish national daily sport newspaper Marca, players have been sent e-mails from the ATP inviting them to attend a zoom meeting, which is set to be held on Wednesday, June 10 at 4 pm CET. The players and officials will be discussing the future plans of the men’s circuit regarding the Amerian hard-court swing as well as the clay-court events in Europe.

    On May 15, the ATP has extended the suspension of the ATP Tour through to July 31 due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. It is unclear as to what will happen beyond that date. Both the US Open and French Open are hoping to hold their tournaments later this season.

    The ATP has not confirmed the upcoming meeting, however, it has emerged that it was meant to be kept confidential. Coaches have been invited to attend a separate zoom meeting on June 18th.

    In May, ATP Tour chief Andrea Gaudenzi told Reuters that June 1 was the deadline for the tournaments in August, but it looks like the new deadline is now mid-June.

    Adam_Addicott
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    BIG TENNIS UPDATE
    Marca newspaper has reported that tennis players on the ATP Tour have been invited to a zoom call next Wednesday June 10th. That is when they will learn what the upcoming schedule will be and what events will go ahead.

    No info on public statement yet
    http://www.tennis-tourtalk.com/58258...oming-schedule
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    Re: Covid19 & Tennis

    Quote Originally Posted by suliso View Post
    Wouldn't it be that you can travel with as many people you'd like, but only one will be allowed to be on site. That would still work.
    It looks like the players will be in a bubble . Stacey Allaster ( article on post 308) said they may hire physiotherapists and masseuses so players don’t have to bring their own .


    I am surprised by the restrictions, the others sports aren’t so strict


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  5. #320

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    Someone like Roger or Serena are unlikely to come without their families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suliso View Post
    Wouldn't it be that you can travel with as many people you'd like, but only one will be allowed to be on site. That would still work.
    ^ Not if there are still travel restrictions that are unrelated to tennis still in place in a given country.
    At this point in the virus crisis, obviously the less people who travel internationally, the better. This includes professional athletes and their 'entourages', because, as far as science is aware, they possess no special powers to prevent themselves from transmitting the virus (or from contracting it). They can transmit/contract it just as easily as John Q Public - and can do so both onsite and anywhere offsite.

    Quote Originally Posted by omess View Post
    It looks like the players will be in a bubble . Stacey Allaster ( article on post 308) said they may hire physiotherapists and masseuses so players don’t have to bring their own .

    I am surprised by the restrictions, the others sports aren’t so strict
    ^ The more restrictions, the better. Because we're potentially talking about life and death.

    Quote Originally Posted by suliso View Post
    Someone like Roger or Serena are unlikely to come without their families.
    Vekic: "Really the worst thing is if we can only come with one team member. I just don’t see how that is going to be possible and how the top players are going to accept that."

    ^ Because pro players are incredibly spoiled. God forbid that, for the sake of not transmitting the virus to innocent people, they DEPRIVE themselves of part of their enormous 'entourages'.
    Jeez... back in the day players survived fine with just one coach - or even completely alone. After all, tennis was originally a one-on-one, truly individual sport.
    These are desperate times. People are dying all over the planet from this virus, as it is extremely contagious. The players should suck it up and behave like responsible grown adults instead of like selfish spoiled children in need of their security blankets.
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  7. #322

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    Not really taking anyone's side in this discussion, but a comment: I have been a loyal participant and fan of tennis for about 58 years. And one change in the professional world of tennis (and other individual sports) has been the size of the entourage or "team" that travels with so many of the top players, not to mention extended families. I can see how helpful some of this might be to the ones who can afford it. But absolutely necessary to have all of them present at every match?? I don't get that. GH

  8. #323

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    It's also not absolutely necessary to participate in a GS tournament. Someone like Serena can easily say get lost with your silly tournament...

    As for travel EU will be almost completely open (except UK and Sweden) for internal travel within two weeks. I'm flying to see my parents in Latvia (virus virtually gone in both countries, less than 100 infections per million).
    Roger forever

  9. #324

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    Jon Wertheim @jon_wertheim
    Here's
    @usta: if an athlete tests positive, they will be "sent to their room" and withdrawn from the tournament....my question: what is the recourse in case of a false positive
    Don Tennis
    @palenquej
    Replying to @jon_wertheim and @usta
    USTA is trying to play with variables it does not control, what if in the final one is positive? Issue is optics, the worst area in the world hit by the virus is zip 11368- precisely where Open is. Now we have an event, this is all due to not having the smarts to buy insurance.
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  10. #325

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    Rafael Nadal Not Yet Ready to Travel for U.S. Open
    “If you ask me today if I want to travel today to New York to play a tennis tournament, I will say no, I will not.”

    By Christopher Clarey
    June 4, 2020
    Updated 3:44 p.m. ET

    Traditionally, this is Rafael Nadal’s time to dominate: the week when the world’s premier clay-court tennis tournament, the French Open, comes to a close, and when Nadal secures another singles title.

    He has won the Open an astounding 12 times, but this is a season like no other, and instead of pumping his fist and bellowing “vamos” after whipping another forehand winner in Paris, he instead spent Thursday at his academy in Manacor, Majorca.

    The French Open, originally scheduled to run from May 24 to June 7, has been postponed to late September and early October because of the coronavirus pandemic. The United States Open, the next Grand Slam tournament on the schedule, is uncertain to be played but still set for Aug. 31 to Sept. 13 in New York, which has been hit particularly hard by the virus.

    “Well, is not an ideal situation, honestly no,” said Nadal, who won his fourth U.S. Open singles title last year. “If you ask me today if I want to travel today to New York to play a tennis tournament, I will say no, I will not.

    “In a couple of months I don’t know how the situation is going to improve. Hopefully it’s going to improve the right way, and I’m sure the people who organize the event, the U.S.T.A., want a safe event, same like the French federation,” Nadal told tennis journalists on a Zoom call.

    The men’s and women’s tennis tours have been on hold since mid-March, when the BNP Paribas Open in Indian Wells, Calif., was canceled on the eve of the qualifying tournament. Nadal and his team were already in Indian Wells.

    He returned to Majorca, one of Spain’s Balearic Islands, and spent more than two months in lockdown before resuming limited on-court training last month. Spain, which is beginning to reopen, has been hit hard by the pandemic, with more than 240,000 confirmed cases and approximately 30,000 deaths.

    Though tennis exhibitions are being organized in Europe and the United States, the tours have postponed play until at least August with a decision expected later this month on the U.S. Open.

    United States Tennis Association officials have expressed cautious optimism. The Open would very likely be played without spectators and with players limited to reduced support teams and subject to frequent testing, with their movements restricted to official hotels and the tournament site to protect their health.

    “I am confident they will make the right decision in the right moment to make sure if the tournament is played it will be in safe circumstances,” Nadal said. “If not, in my opinion, it doesn’t make sense.”

    Later on Thursday, in an interview with the Eurosport network, Nadal said it would be “tough and strange” to play without spectators.

    “If the situation is not allowing to play with fans, like everybody, I will adapt,” he said. “But of course I hope that the situation improves, and I really hope we will be able to play with fans very, very soon because tennis and sport without the fans loses almost every single thing.”

    On the videoconference, Nadal was asked if he was concerned about the U.S. Open because of the “current political climate” in the United States, which has been the scene of mass demonstrations after the death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis.

    “The situation has been very ugly for the last couple of days; when you see all this stuff, it’s terrible,” Nadal said. “I really hope that the country is able to control all this terrible situation that a lot of cities are living and be able to come back to a positive life respecting everybody and of course trying to live with peace. That’s the main thing.”

    Nadal said it was too early to decide on whether he would play in both the U.S. Open and the French Open, which are likely to be separated by just a two-week gap if they are played at all.

    “We will make decisions thinking about what we believe will be the best for my tennis, the best for my future and the best for my body,” he said.

    Nadal said he felt it was important that the tours resume play only when global travel restrictions have been lifted to allow all eligible players access to events. He said he remained uncertain whether tournaments could resume in 2020.

    “We have a worldwide tour,” he said. “We need to be clear. We need to be responsible. We need to be sending a strong message, and we need to be a positive example for the society. We need to understand we are suffering an unprecedented situation, and my feeling is, we need to come back when all the players from all the countries of the world are able to travel and in safe circumstances.”

    But Nadal conceded that he might have to compromise on that principle and “probably will play” if the tour restarts with some competitors’ movements still restricted.

    “But my feeling will be that we are not being 100 percent correct,” he said. “And I want to see my sport being 100 percent fair and correct especially under these circumstances.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/04/s...ael-nadal.html
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  11. #326

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    Lukas Lacko @lukilacko

    Just finished zoom call for ATP players and I have mixed feelings. There will be lot of heat in our organization for the next couple of days I guess ...

    400 people in the room. Duration 3.36h. Lot of topics discussed including USTA proposal which is already public. Lot of input from players. 5 days for decision. 3:41 PM
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  12. #327

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    Per a fan most of the top 100 do not want to. be in NYC for four weeks of Cincy/USO. To quote the fan "USTA will seize on infightings to try to save US Open. Next few days will be crucial."

    He also says the prospect of no fans is the least of their concerns.

    The fan goes by Lucas_4ever on MTF.
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  13. #328

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    Danielle Collins rips Novak Djokovic over his U.S. Open ‘entourage’ whining
    By Howie Kussoy June 10, 2020 | 1:37pm | Updated

    Novak Djokovic can afford to skip the U.S. Open. The world’s top-ranked player doesn’t need to work another day in his life. But no other tennis player in the world has over $143 million in career earnings to fall back on.

    American Danielle Collins, the 51st-ranked player in the WTA, called out Djokovic for having a bloated entourage and being out of touch with the financial security of fellow players, following the 17-time grand slam champion’s comments that he — and others — might not play the U.S. Open because its proposed safety protocol is too “extreme.”

    Collins, 26, has never advanced past the second round of the U.S. Open, and earned over $2.5 million as a pro. Djokovic, the three-time U.S. Open champion, has collected more money on the court than any player in the sport’s history.

    “This is a serious contradiction to previous comments about having players….inside the top 100 donate money to players outside of the top 250,” Collins wrote to Djokovic online. “No one has been able to play sanctioned events or make money since February. Here we have an awesome opportunity with the US Open talking about proceeding forward with the event, with some strict safety precautions to make sure all players feel safe and their health is put first. This is a massive opportunity for players to start making money again, and here we have the top player in the world saying only being able to bring one person with [him] will be too difficult be able to bring his entourage.”

    Currently, the U.S. Open is scheduled to begin Aug. 31. If the tournament is held — Wimbledon was cancelled for the first time since World War II, due to COVID-19 — international players would need to quarantine for 14 days upon landing in the U.S. Once arriving in Queens, players would be restricted to certain courts, be permitted to bring just one person to a match, stay at hotels near the Flushing site and be prohibited from going to Manhattan.

    “If it’s safe to play, and the USTA, WTA and ATP do everything in their ability to prioritize the health of the players, I think we should support that. It’s easy when someone’s made $150 million throughout their career to try and tell people what to do with their money, and then turn down playing in the us open, ” Collins said. “For those of us (most tennis players) who don’t travel with an entourage, we actually need to start working again. It would be nice to have the best player in the world supporting this opportunity and not spoiling it for the players and the fans!”

    In addition to reluctance to travel to what became the global epicenter of the pandemic, some players also are torn about playing the U.S. Open because the French Open — usually played in May — has been postponed to the week after New York’s grand slam concludes.

    “Nothing is certain yet, a final decision is expected by the end of the month,” Djokovic told Serbian broadcaster RTS. “At the moment the measures in force are very severe….These are pretty extreme conditions and I don’t know if they are sustainable. Most of the players I’ve talked to so far have a rather negative view of the possibility of going.

    “Of course, we would all like to return to the courts as soon as possible and play tournaments, the ones before the US Open and the US Open and I hope they will take place but there has to be a compromise between the organizers and the players. We’ll see if it will happen.”

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/10/daniel...urage-concern/
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    Good summary on the ATP players meeting


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Danielle Collins rips Novak Djokovic over his U.S. Open ‘entourage’ whining
    By Howie Kussoy June 10, 2020 | 1:37pm | Updated

    Novak Djokovic can afford to skip the U.S. Open. The world’s top-ranked player doesn’t need to work another day in his life. But no other tennis player in the world has over $143 million in career earnings to fall back on.

    American Danielle Collins, the 51st-ranked player in the WTA, called out Djokovic for having a bloated entourage and being out of touch with the financial security of fellow players, following the 17-time grand slam champion’s comments that he — and others — might not play the U.S. Open because its proposed safety protocol is too “extreme.”

    ...

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/10/daniel...urage-concern/
    ^ I don't like her arrogant demeanour on court, but in this instance, Collins is absolutely right.
    Novak - bring your teddy bear, or your favourite blanket, to help you feel safe and secure - but do not bring your 'entourage'.
    And don't complain about the efforts to ensure the safety of you and your fellow humans.
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