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  1. #631

    Re: Covid19 & Tennis

    Apparently he was already sick while playing, although I'm not sure if that's why he received medical attention during his match. How can they seriously not stop the tournament now that the captain of one of the two teams has tested positive? Probably they all practiced strict social distancing at all times...(irony alert).
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    Match 1: Frances Tiafoe (Team Stars) d. Sam Querrey (Team Stripes), 6-4, 7-6 (5)

    Captain Tiafoe required a lengthy medical timeout early in the second set, and soon after returning to the court, saw his break lead evaporate. But in the tiebreaker, after missing a forehand on his first match point, the 22-year-old curled a cross-court backhand past the charging Querrey to clinch the victory.

    "It was tough. I was playing well, but I hit a serious wall," Tiafoe said. "I honestly thought I was going to retire but I started to push for the fans. I didn't want to be that guy to stop short. I came back out and was hanging by a thread."

    https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020...-attend/89478/

  2. #632

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    "I just haven't been feeling the best the last couple of days... feeling dizzy." (https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020...ovid-19/89486/)

    How on earth was he allowed to play? That's some serious negligence from both the organizers' and Tiafoe's side... Although the organizers said that he was tested "prior to or upon arrival in Atlanta" (whatever that means), we all know that a negative test does not necessarily mean you're virus-free.

  3. #633

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver0001 View Post
    "I just haven't been feeling the best the last couple of days... feeling dizzy." (https://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2020...ovid-19/89486/)

    How on earth was he allowed to play? That's some serious negligence from both the organizers' and Tiafoe's side... Although the organizers said that he was tested "prior to or upon arrival in Atlanta" (whatever that means), we all know that a negative test does not necessarily mean you're virus-free.
    In his own statement Frances said he tested negative a week ago in Florida. He was not tested again until after his match against Querrey.Video shows he was very wobbly during his post match interview.

    Frances Tiafoe @FTiafoe

    Unfortunately, I tested positive late Friday for Covid-19 and have to withdraw from the All-American Team Cup special event in Atlanta this weekend. Over the past two months, I have been training in Florida and tested negative there as recently as a week ago

    I am scheduled to have a second test early next week, but have already begun the quarantine protocol as advised by the medical staff here in Atlanta. While I’ve been so excited to get back out there, the health and safety of everyone continues to be a top priority.
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.




  4. #634

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    Bryan brothers unsure on retirement plans: 'If we decide not to go on next year, I don’t think you’ll see us playing for no fans in New York'
    The Telegraph
    Simon Briggs
    The Telegraph Jul 4, 2020, 6:19 AM

    Centre Court was always intended to be quiet today, on what would normally be the middle Sunday of the Wimbledon Championships. But over the next seven days, these empty lawns will haunt the dreams of tennis professionals across the world. For some, the pain will be assuaged by the knowledge that there will be more summers to come. For others – such as the 42-year-old Bryan twins – the loss is more acute.

    The most prolific doubles partnership in history, Bob and Mike Bryan were planning a farewell tour of the world’s great stadia in 2020. Their plan was to finish in front of a 24,000-strong sell-out in September – a fitting New York finale for the pair who have done more than any other man to carry American tennis in the 21st Century.

    Now, they are bewildered and unsure. Should they move the whole campaign back by 12 months? The Bryans built their success on playing the percentages better than anyone else. But no-one knows the rules of this latest game, and with August’s fan-free US Open only eight weeks away, they can’t decide whether to stick or twist.

    “We had a lot of stuff planned,” said Bob Bryan, the more garrulous of the twins, over a video link from his home in Florida. “We took our kids out of school to travel on the road and feel the emotions one last time. I wanted to retire this year because we still felt we could compete for big tournaments. We didn’t want to push into our mid-40s and retire on fumes. We wanted to be relevant.”

    “Yeah, we had it all mapped out,” chimed Mike from his own base in Camarillo, California, which is where the twins were born. “But you can’t always write the perfect script, and this summer has thrown us a curveball. So now we’re weighing the options. If we decide not to go on next year, I don’t think you’ll see us playing for no fans in New York.”

    This atypical spring has found the brothers ensconced on opposite coasts and “calling each other two or three times a day”. It’s not the longest they have spent apart, after Bob dropped off the tour for five months in 2018 to undergo the same metal hip implant that Andy Murray later emulated. But when Bob’s next-door neighbour started talking about selling his house, Mike was tempted to make an offer. His reluctant conclusion was that “I’m not sure our wives could handle it.”

    There have been no freaky stories to rival the couch incident of 2011, when both brothers independently and simultaneously bought the same piece of furniture from chain stores on opposite sides of America. Instead, they have had the chance to develop contrasting interests. “Bob’s big in to art,” said Mike, “playing a lot of chess, a boat guy, living on the Intercoastal [an inland waterway which helps vessels avoid the bumpier Atlantic Ocean]. I am big into health, more spiritual. I don’t think Bob has meditated a day in his life.”

    “I don’t believe in ghosts,” retorted Bob, “or in the boogeyman. Mike has seen it; once I do, I might believe.”

    More practically, the brothers have been posting back-garden videos of volley drills performed with the Slinger Bag – an affordable new ball machine which they helped to crowdfund and are now promoting.

    We dedicate 2020 to all those who have shared this journey with us. Whether you root for us or against us, we are grateful for your passion in the sport that has given us so much. We’ll always do our best to return this love. Thank you for letting us live out our dream. 🙏❤️ pic.twitter.com/OmsFarDHJz

    — Bob Bryan (@Bryanbros) November 14, 2019

    https://sports.yahoo.com/bryan-broth...101946312.html
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.




  5. #635

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    Exclusive: The WTA’s options – an “unfair” Tour, or no Tour at all

    Barring any last-minute snafus, the WTA Tour is expected to announce imminently that the women’s portion of the Citi Open in Washington, D.C. will go ahead.

    Held the week of Aug. 10, it would be the first hard-court Tour event in North America, the week after the first event back in Palermo, Italy the week of Aug. 3 and the same week as a similar one the tour hopes to hold in Prague, Czech Republic.

    But the questions still remain: should the WTA play at all? And how do they manage all of the restrictions and outside factors that make it unfair for so many players who can’t play?

    Open Court has heard the playback of the WTA’s meeting Friday with players and Tour officials, a weekly occurrence that generally remains under tight wraps.

    And while a final decision on Palermo, Prague and D.C. needs to be made this week (in the case of Palermo, this weekend), the recent announcement from the European Union about the restrictions to entry for citizens of several countries has thrown a monkey wrench into the proceedings that rivals the omnipresent and ever-changing safety concerns.

    “The (EU) announcement, combined with the continued growth of the virus, is clearly very troubling and challenging for us. It confirms the volatility we’re dealing with, and have to accept,” WTA Tour CEO Steve Simon said on the call.

    The WTA doesn’t want the events to incur expenses if they are not going to be held. And it doesn’t want its players to incur travel expenses if they’re not going to play.


    Nearly half Palermo field can’t play

    Simon said on the call that if you look at the first 50 players on the Palermo entry list, fully 23 of the 50 could not play the tournament under the current EU conditions. That’s 48 per cent of the total.

    In the case of Prague, 11 of the top 28 players entered – or 39 per cent – can’t play as things stand, with the EU list scheduled to be updated every 14 days.

    It puts the WTA into a position where it may have to back down from its original position, which was that if all the players didn’t have equal opportunity, they would cancel the season.

    “I think we have to recognize that the situation is changing and have to be open to constantly considering new ways of approaching it. The environment is changing so much around us,” said Vanessa Webb, the Canadian former Tour player recently re-elected to serve another term as the WTA Board member representing top-100 players.

    “What we have on our Tour, we have players who want to play, and we have players who don’t want to play. We have players who can play, we have players who can’t play everywhere and a few players who can’t play anywhere, who can’t get out of their countries.”

    The upshot of that, Webb said, is that if the WTA wants to operate in 2020, it will have to operate as more of a regional tour. Otherwise, because not everyone has equal access to earning a living, then no one would earn a living.

    And since there’s no end date for the effects of the coronavirus, that could mean that all the players could literally be out of work for as long 18 months.


    Ranking fairness the big issue

    Beyond the issue of holding events safely – an issue that players council member Sloane Stephens seems to be spearheading, per what was said – there’s the issue of rankings and trying to make them fair in incredibly unfair circumstances.

    Needless to say, neither tour has a handle on this yet. And, needless to say, there is probably no calculation that will be fair to everyone.

    Webb pointed to the ATP’s current idea of using a “better of” ranking as one that might help mitigate the fallout.


    A player who lost in the second round in Madrid last year, for example, earned 45 points. If that player didn’t play it in 2020 (assuming it goes ahead), he would keep those 45 points on his ranking for another year. If he did play, and reached the quarterfinals, those 45 points would be replaced by 180 points in the player’s tally.

    It’s almost like “extra credit”, Webb said. It would at least blunt, to some extent, the effect of inactivity.

    For those players who can’t even get out of their own countries, or who don’t feel safe playing out of safety concerns or pre-existing health conditions, the rankings from March could still be frozen – in effect, making them almost like special injury rankings.

    “It will not be completely fair, but it will go a long way and I think the alternative we’re looking at is to shut down the Tour. As we think about that, there are real repercussions for you guys as we look at what the Tour looks like next year and the year after. If it’s safe, we want to try to create these opportunities to compete and earn income,” Webb said.


    Konta looks at the big picture

    Great Britain’s Johanna Konta, a member of the WTA player council, said during the meeting that it was important to look at the long term.

    “My opinion is that the world we’re living in now has always been incredible unfair, but now, it’s a new type of unfair. I think it’s important for us to have a big-picture perspective when it comes to the decision we will make now. The repercussions for obviously not playing just this year, but the years to come. What the tour will look like,” she said.

    “I know I feel very strongly about making sure whatever we decide, means the players that come in the future have the best possible chance to play on the Tour. I personally do think it’s really important we do everything we can to play; we can’t afford to put the WTA in a position where it can’t exist anymore,” Konta added. “It’s hard to make any decision as a player; we can’t look at it in an unbiased way. So maybe listen to the business side on this, to make sure we have a Tour to come back to.”

    “No points” not an option

    In response to a question from a player about the fairest way to go about things being having no ranking points at all, Simon said that was not an option.

    “We’ve looked this this. We’ve discussed it with our tournaments, our commercial partners, broadcasters. They all feel very strongly there has to be the ranking component to give credibility to the Tour, and to these events (so) they don’t just become exhibitions,” he said. “They’re also important due to the different financial investment that’s coming in from all the various events events. If we don’t have ranking points, that’s going to throw that system completely off as well.”

    Play now, rank later

    Simon said the thought was to go ahead with Palermo the week of Aug. 3 – conditions permitting, of course – as they work through the ranking repercussions. Another few weeks remain before the bigger decision on the rest of the season has to be made.

    The Tour also had a meeting Friday with the prime minister of the Czech Republic. Simon said “it appears” there is support from the prime minister to give players who want to play the Prague event a waiver for both entry and isolation/quarantine. But that would still have to be signed off on by several ministries, so it’s far from a done deal.

    As for the Citi Open, Simon said that while the waiver is in place in the U.S. for professional athletes to be able to enter the country, the question about isolation and a 14-day quarantine upon arrival is not a done deal – at least, there is no written confirmation they wouldn’t have to undergo it.


    Self-quarantine a big challenge

    As well, will players from the EU – if they do travel to North America to compete – have to self-quarantine for 14 days upon their return to Europe?

    If they must, that would mean their participation in the US Open would compromise their ability to compete in the scheduled tournaments in Madrid and Rome, prior to the re-scheduled French Open.

    The other challenge is the new travel ban imposed by the Tri-State area – New York, New Jersey and Connecticut – on travel from 16 other U.S. states with high infection rates.

    All of these issues must be settled and finalized before all the big decisions are made about the “Cincinnati”-US Open bubble plans in August and September. Those are to be made in the last two weeks of this month.


    Friday’s call also featured tennis legend Chris Evert, who weighed in and noted that with the current restrictions in New York, and her being a Florida resident, she wouldn’t even be able to travel to the US Open in her work as a commentator.

    “If women’s tennis is to survive, and not go bankrupt, it has to take the opportunities that we can get in finding jobs for as many players as we can. If affects hundreds of players, it affects sponsors, it affects TV, if affects everyone working in this bubble. It provides a living for many. But it has to be in a safe environment, with none or a low number of outbreaks,” she told the players on the call. “I think the rankings are very, very important. They have to be as fair as possible; we have to find formulas to soften the blow.”

    Long story short, while the return to professional tennis has been scheduled – it remains a big leap from planning, to reality.

    And when you look at the case of Frances Tiafoe testing positive for COVID-19 at this weekend’s exhibition in Atlanta – one that did try to prioritize health safety at least in terms of the fan seating (but from what we hear, didn’t do a great job of policing the players off-court – again) you know there’s still a long way to go.

    https://opencourt.ca/wordpress/2020/...o-tour-at-all/
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  6. #636

    Re: Covid19 & Tennis

    I watched a good bit of the Tiafoe/Querrey match. One thing that concerned me (and I did NOT know about Taifoe having the virus then) was that he was handling the tennis balls of Querrey. When Sam picked up Frances' tennis balls, he did so with his racket and hit them with no contact from his hands. I saw Frances touch the other balls with his hands plenty of times, though not always. Sam and everyone involved in that match will have to get tested, preferably today. (I had to put "tennis" balls to keep this note from sounding obscene)

    GH

    P.S. I agree with Oliver that the tournament should have been cancelled at that point. With one of 8 players testing positive, the plan should not be to put in a sub and go on. GH
    Last edited by GlennHarman; 07-04-2020 at 03:02 PM. Reason: added P.S.

  7. #637

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennHarman View Post
    I watched a good bit of the Tiafoe/Querrey match. One thing that concerned me (and I did NOT know about Taifoe having the virus then) was that he was handling the tennis balls of Querrey. When Sam picked up Frances' tennis balls, he did so with his racket and hit them with no contact from his hands. I saw Frances touch the other balls with his hands plenty of times, though not always. Sam and everyone involved in that match will have to get tested, preferably today. (I had to put "tennis" balls to keep this note from sounding obscene)

    GH

    P.S. I agree with Oliver that the tournament should have been cancelled at that point. With one of 8 players testing positive, the plan should not be to put in a sub and go on. GH
    And deprived us of that pleasure.
    You selfish you!
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

  8. #638

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    That WTA article is just bananas. Clearly the world is not ready for tennis to resume but damn if anyone is going to listen.
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  9. #639

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennHarman View Post
    (I had to put "tennis" balls to keep this note from sounding obscene)
    I have struggled since March on how to say "don't touch my balls and I won't touch yours. Feel free to hit or kick my balls, though." Hard to say without snickering, and I don't even have balls.

    While we're here, though, the no-ball-touching method didn't work out all that well when I played. Someone would invariable forget deep in the match if we were tired and/or focused. We eventually gave up and just sanitized our hands right after playing, since I was only playing with one other person for a few months. If someone wants to be diligent about it, it can work.
    Last edited by MeganFernandez; 07-07-2020 at 11:45 AM.
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  10. #640

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    angie @ultravoxing
    WHAT???



    Keep in mind it was Zverev who posted the pics on his IG story. His girlfriend did the same.

    Zverev didn't post th original video. It was the man who hosted the party who did. Zverev got him to take the original video down and post video where he was cropped out.

    Thiem needs a PR person. STAT.
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.




  11. #641

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    All ITF tournaments scheduled to take place in US in August have now been canceled. Not looking good for the American part of ATP/WTA schedules either. Much better chance of European clay season taking place starting with WTA Palermo.
    Roger forever

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    I no longer care for Thiem. And I kinda did before. A little too late.
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  13. #643

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    Thiem dated that hotmess Mladenovic, so the signs were there early. We just didn't see them.
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  14. #644

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    I missed it. Other then her silly arguments with and about Caro Garcia, what was hotmessy about Mladenovic?
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

  15. #645

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    I missed it. Other then her silly arguments with and about Caro Garcia, what was hotmessy about Mladenovic?
    Her serve.

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