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    Quote Originally Posted by shtexas View Post
    Grocery stores are hiring. They even have tables set up for it.

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    I know our local stores were hiring more re-stocking help. Not that I'm looking for a job, but I could see advantages to looking into that if I were. I believe a lot of stores hire overnight re-stockers. So you could possibly get a job where you would have minimal exposure to other people.


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    Also, the number of cases in Ohio doubled in the last 24 hours. And we have the first case in our county.

    Of course, now there really is an up-tick in number of tests being done (though still far from adequate). So some of the jump in numbers will occur just because there is more testing going on. Still, I fear we may be just on the verge of an Italy-like explosion in numbers. I really hope I'm wrong.


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    This will be the first full day of California's new shelter at home order. I'm staying open since I have customers with "essential" businesses that store tools and supplies here. I'll be curious to see if people adhere to the order or if they think their daily activities are more important than the health of the society.


    I went to the supermarket yesterday. I took a cart and simply went up and down each aisle grabbing something here and something there. My grabbing was very limited since the shelves were probably 50% empty. This exercise was simply to supplement the pantry and freezer that has plenty of food in them. There was one loan container of liquid laundry detergent, a brand I'd never heard of. I took it. There were 2 cans of turkey gravy sitting on the shelf all alone. I took them. And the only canned vegetable left were large cans (the size that restaurants buy) of sweet corn. I took one (ONE, hoarders!). I bought Mary a can of mixed nuts and a Rocky Road candy bar (2 of her favorites). Oddly, there were plenty of both of those items available. There were no paper products to be found - napkins, paper towels, toilet paper, etc. Gone. As a household we're going to face a toilet paper crises in about a week if we don't find some. It's nowhere! The hoarders snag them all before the rest of us have a chance to get to the store. I swear, if I see someone in the store with a basket full of any one thing, I'll publicly shame them. That's how angry they're making me.

    Oh Grigor. You silly man.

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    Before they started running out, I saw people with carts containing what had to be a year's worth of toilet paper. I just don't get what they think they are accomplishing by that level of hoarding. GH

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    Before you get violent Kirkus, have you tried Target for paper goods? Their re-stock supplies seem to be better than some grocery stores. That doesn't mean they'll have everything, but it's the only place I spotted a paper towel or napkin of any sort in the last week and a half or so and they had Kleenex and barely anyone else did. I also got some cereal there, when again, those shelves were downright barren elsewhere unless you wanted the most flavorless bran cereals on the market. And the locations near me got their TP shipments in within the last 2 days, when I check stock in their app which is usually very very accurate, it is in-stock now, only available in-store and they'll limit the quantities.

    If you have a Trader Joe's near you, check there as well. They have had some, not a full shelf by any means, but some paper goods. I saw TP a week or two ago and paper towels this week when I went.

    Also, certain grocery stores in my area get daily shipments and re-stock better than others. It isn't necessarily my preferred grocery store that does this, so that's part of it. On the news, they visited like 12 area grocery stores and only 4 were getting daily shipments, none of which are the chain I normally shop. Also, an independent grocery store near me has been a good place to shop. Only place I've been able to get butter in the last week, something I luckily do already have but didn't realize would be a run.

    And finally. Costco. Are you a member? Or of another similar club? They have some of the best re-stocking. They've definitely had TP in the store. Limits are down to one per shopper though. And even more convenient, just check their website. Items come in and out of stock periodically. Same with paper towels.
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    I know I had seen a headline predicting a 20% unemployment rate in the US as a result of this.

    Well, the Prime Minister just announced that Service Canada received 500,000 claims for assistance (he did not specifically say for employment insurance, so it's possible that this includes other contacts as well) in one week, up from 27,000 the week before. And this is very early days--stores are still shutting down, and Air Canada just announced that they were laying off 5000 flight attendants last night.

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    Cuomo Orders Tighter Restrictions in New York: Live Updates
    The governor ordered most businesses to keep all workers home and told New Yorkers to stay indoors.


    Governor Cuomo told New Yorkers to stay indoors as much as possible and ordered all nonessential businesses to keep all workers home as cases topped 7,000.
    Here’s what you need to know:
    The governor ordered all nonessential businesses to keep all their workers at home.
    Mayor de Blasio blamed President Trump for the looming shortages of medical supplies.
    Hair and nail salons and tattoo parlors must close.
    The control tower at Kennedy Airport was closed after a worker tested positive.
    Delivery workers are risking their health to bring you food.

    The governor ordered all nonessential businesses to keep all their workers at home.
    On Friday, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo told New York’s 19 million residents to stay indoors as much as possible and ordered nonessential businesses to keep all of their workers home.

    The measures, the state’s most drastic yet, come as confirmed coronavirus cases in New York topped 7,000, by far the most in the nation.

    “These provisions will be enforced,” the governor said at a briefing in Albany. “These are not helpful hints.” They will take effect Sunday night.

    Even as he told New Yorkers to stay indoors, Mr. Cuomo added that if they did go out — whether to do essential shopping or to exercise — they must stay six feet away from each other.

    His new policy bans “all nonessential gatherings of individuals of any size for any reason.”

    The governor also announced strict rules for people over 70 and those who have underlying illnesses, allowing them to go outside only for solitary exercise, requiring them to wear masks when in the company of others and barring them from visiting households with multiple people, among other requirements.

    For days, Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York City has pushed for a “shelter in place” order and the governor has repeatedly dismissed the idea, saying he would not quarantine New Yorkers in their homes.

    On Friday, Mr. Cuomo chafed at calling this new order a “shelter in place” order, saying that term evoked active shooter situations and nuclear war.

    “Words matter,” the governor said.

    The number of confirmed cases stood at 7,102 on Friday morning, 4,408 of them in New York City, Mr. Cuomo said.

    New York State, with only 6 percent of the country’s population, accounts for around half of the nationwide total of confirmed cases.

    New York performed 10,000 tests overnight, bringing the total number of people tested in the state to 32,427. About 1,250 people are hospitalized, an 18 percent hospitalization rate, the governor said.

    Mr. Cuomo said New York was now testing more people per capita than China or South Korea.

    Mayor de Blasio blamed President Trump for the looming shortages of medical supplies.

    Mayor Bill de Blasio said that New York City’s need for medical supplies, including face masks, gloves and ventilators, was growing more urgent, and he criticized President Trump for not activating the military to ensure necessary supplies be delivered to places fighting the outbreak.

    “He should get the hell out of the way and let the military do its job,” the mayor said.

    On WNYC radio, Mr. de Blasio continued his criticism: “We’re talking about, ironically, a New Yorker in the White House who is betraying New York City,” he told Brian Lehrer.

    “We’re talking about a president who is basically doing what Herbert Hoover did at the beginning of the Depression and minimizing the nature and refusing to use available federal action, and people are going to die, and they shouldn’t, they don’t have to, if we could get the support that we’re asking for.”

    The medical needs include three million N95 masks, 50 million surgical masks and 15,000 ventilators. Health care workers will need another 45 million of each of the following: surgical gowns, coveralls, gloves, regular face masks and face shields, the mayor said.

    Mr. de Blasio said on CNN Friday morning that the Javits Center and other large facilities like hotels might be used in the response to the coronavirus, possibly as hospital annexes.

    Hair and nail salons and tattoo parlors must close.

    Starting on Saturday, all barber shops, hair and nail salons, tattoo or piercing parlors and other personal care businesses in New York State must close, Governor Cuomo announced on Friday.

    Mr. Cuomo’s order followed a similar one by Gov. Philip D. Murphy on New Jersey, which took effect Thursday night. Connecticut and Pennsylvania will also be enacting similar measures.

    The closings in New York begin at 8 p.m. on Saturday, Mr. Cuomo said in a statement.

    The new restrictions widen the limits placed on businesses in an effort to contain the coronavirus. So far, Mr. Cuomo and his counterparts have ordered movie theaters, gyms and casinos to close and limited restaurants and bars to delivery and takeout service only.

    All the measures are an attempt to enforce distance between people, a tried and true way to slow pandemics. Officials and health experts have encouraged people to maintain a gap of at least six feet between each other.

    The personal care businesses were of particular concern because the services they offer are nearly impossible to provide without the kind of prolonged, close contact that allows viruses to spread. Most barbers do not own six-foot scissors; most tattoo shops are not supplied with six-foot needles.

    Also, all 92 branches of the New York Public Library — located in Manhattan, the Bronx and Staten Island — will be closed “until further notice” a spokeswoman for the organization said today. Initially the organization had said its branches would close for “at least” two weeks.

    The control tower at Kennedy Airport was closed after a worker tested positive.
    The air traffic control tower at Kennedy International Airport, one of the busiest airports in the country, was temporarily closed after a worker there tested positive for the coronavirus, the Federal Aviation Agency said in a statement.

    The airport remained open on Friday, but the F.A.A. closed the tower as a precaution and called a professional cleaning company to sanitize the facility, it said.

    Air traffic controllers were operating from an alternate location at the airport, as part of a contingency plan that the agency has had in place since well before the outbreak began.

    The worker, a technician, did not enter the part of the tower where air traffic controllers work, the agency said. He was last at the facility on Monday, when he was only in the building for “a brief visit.”

    Earlier this week, a tower at the Las Vegas McCarran International Airport was temporarily closed after an air traffic controller tested positive for the virus.

    Delivery workers are risking their health to bring you food.

    Chen Wei’s wife begged him to stop making restaurant deliveries because she feared he might contract the coronavirus from a customer.

    Lee Mengba, another delivery worker, wondered if the hand that reached out for the bag of medication from behind an apartment door on a recent run belonged to a quarantined patient.

    Adolfo Garcia tries to deliver pizza “in four seconds,” sometimes leaving boxes near the elevator on the first floor of apartment buildings for customers to grab. He disinfects his hands after each delivery — so often that his skin is dry and cracked.

    As New Yorkers barricade themselves in their homes to practice “social distancing,” delivery workers, typically an overlooked group, have now taken on outsize significance and are on the front lines of the outbreak.
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    Keith Boykin @keithboykin

    What the hell?

    Why is Trump's former press secretary Sean Spicer asking questions to Trump at the White House coronavirus press briefing?
    Andrew Feinberg@AndrewFeinberg
    Wait — is that @seanspicer *asking* questions?

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    Pod Save America
    Q: What do you say to Americans who are scared

    TRUMP: "I say that you're a terrible reporter, that's what I say."


    Matt Viser @mviser

    Peter Alexander asks the same question of Mike Pence that he asked of President Trump: What do you say to Americans who are scared?

    Pence, rather than a diatribe on journalism, says: “Do not be afraid, be vigilant."
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    Hakeem Jeffries @RepJeffries

    We must stand up for all displaced workers (and we will).

    But let’s get something straight.

    The major cruise lines sail under foreign flags to avoid paying the U.S. corporate tax rate.

    And now some want the American taxpayer to bail them out?

    Get. Lost.
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    Live updates: New York workers told to stay home to slow coronavirus; U.S.-Mexico border closing to most travel

    Siobhán O'Grady,
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    March 20, 2020 at 1:20 p.m. EDT

    The Washington Post is providing this story for free so that all readers have access to this important information about the coronavirus. For more free stories, sign up for our daily Coronavirus Updates newsletter.

    Restrictions are dramatically ramping up amid the growing coronavirus outbreak, with the U.S.-Mexico border closing to nonessential travel; New York telling non-essential workers to stay home; and the entire state of California going into effective lockdown.

    Here are some significant developments:

    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo ordered all workers in his state to stay home, except for those in essential services. The move came after California Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered 40 million residents to remain at home. The dramatic measures came after confirmed U.S. cases doubled in just two days, in part because of increased testing. “I applaud them, they’re taking very strong, bold steps,” President Trump said.

    The U.S. tax filing deadline has been pushed back from April 15 to July 15. “All taxpayers and businesses will have this additional time to file and make payments without interest or penalties,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Twitter.

    More than 250,000 cases have been confirmed across the globe. The World Health Organization noted that it took more than three months to reach 100,000 cases worldwide —but only 12 days to log the next 100,000.

    The number of coronavirus deaths and confirmed cases continues to surge in Spain and Iran. In Italy, the death toll rose Thursday to 3,405 — the highest in the world. Italian morgues are now running out of space.

    For a second consecutive day, China reported no new local infections. But concerns are growing about a new wave of imported cases elsewhere in the region: Hong Kong reported its biggest daily jump in cases Friday, including many that involved recent travel.

    10:54 a.m.
    Tax filing deadline extended to July 15 due to coronavirus disruption

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin announced Friday that the administration has moved the IRS deadline for filing taxes from April 15 to July 15 due to the disruption caused by the coronavirus.

    The new deadline will give millions of taxpayers more time to fill out their tax forms as the virus upends daily life across the country. Mnuchin made the announcement on Twitter, citing President Trump’s directive.

    “At @realDonaldTrump ’s direction, we are moving Tax Day from April 15 to July 15,” Mnuchin said. “All taxpayers and businesses will have this additional time to file and make payments without interest or penalties.”

    The Treasury Department had previously announced $300 billion in delays to tax deadline payments. It had been reluctant to postpone the deadline for filing as well, in part because doing so may result in fewer Americans getting their tax refunds at a weak moment for the American economy.

    1:20 a.m.
    Americans stuck abroad urge State Department: Please, help us get home

    Tara Lavelle, 42, is one of thousands of U.S. citizens stranded abroad as flights are canceled, and countries — such as Honduras, where she was on a scuba diving trip — abruptly close borders and suspend international travel.

    But when she contacted the State Department for help finding a flight, she received this generic response by email Thursday: “While the U.S. government has successfully evacuated hundreds of our citizens in previous crises, these flights do not reflect our standard practice and should not be relied upon as an option for U.S. citizens abroad” impacted by the novel coronavirus.

    On Thursday, the State Department issued a rare Level 4 travel warning against all international travel and that Americans abroad could face trouble getting to the United States.

    “Have a travel plan that does not rely on the U.S. government for assistance,” recommended the advisory.

    But that suddenly became near impossible for Lavelle when she woke up Monday to news that Honduras had abruptly banned international travel and ordered people to remain home. Her return flight to Massachusetts, like all commercial international flights, was canceled.

    By Thursday, she was one of 100 U.S. citizens who had agreed to pay $1,000 each to charter a plane to fly them home. Only the Honduran government refused to provide the plane a landing permit, and they cannot get anyone from the U.S. government to help put pressure on them, she said.

    The Washington Post has reached out to the State Department for comment.

    Canadians, meanwhile, have been able to charter a plane out Saturday, Lavelle said.
    The Post is trying to verify the claim.

    “It’s been pretty scary, and I guess really surprising to see that the U.S. government just basically hasn’t been any help in getting us out of here,” she said. “They are giving us information that doesn’t make sense … You just feel like you’re left on your own.”

    By Miriam Berger

    12:23 p.m.
    2,600 U.S. troops in self-isolation in Europe; U.S.-led coalition in Iraq suspends training

    About 2,600 U.S. troops stationed in Europe are under self-isolation due to potential exposure to the coronavirus, European Command chief Air Force Gen. Tod Wolters said Friday, with 35 service members testing positive for the virus.

    “We’re preparing for worst-case scenarios with respect to the potential spread,” he said on a call with reporters.

    The Pentagon stressed in a subsequent statement that these troops are “are not necessarily sick but may have been exposed and are doing their due diligence following health preventative measures.”

    The command, which includes about 74,000 U.S. troops — with thousands in hard-hit Italy — accounts for about half of the 67 infected service members force-wide, the Pentagon said Friday.

    Meanwhile, the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq suspended training for Iraqi security forces — the linchpin of the strategy to defeat remnants of the Islamic State — and sped withdrawal of forces from smaller bases due to coronavirus concerns, the coalition said Friday.

    The coalition will “temporarily return some of its training-focused forces to their own countries in the coming days and weeks,” it said in a statement, but did not specify which countries and how many troops.

    Training will resume as the “situation permits,” but no timeline was given. “Looking ahead, we anticipate the coalition supporting the Iraqi security forces from fewer bases with fewer people,” the coalition said.

    U.S. troops had already begun handing over smaller bases to Iraqi forces and consolidating on larger installations before Friday’s announcement.

    Officials previously said plans were in place for months as the threat from the Islamic State lessened while the threat of Iranian-backed militias has grown.

    Militia attacks have killed and wounded almost two dozen coalition troops in recent weeks, though the coalition has denied the repositioning was due the frequency of those strikes.

    Roughly 5,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq.

    By Alex Horton

    1:20 p.m.
    K-12 standardized testing suspended; student loan holders get a break

    President Trump said Friday his administration is waiving all federal requirements for standardized tests for students in kindergarten through 12th grade because the coronavirus pandemic has forced most schools in the country to close for an indefinite period during annual testing season.

    He also announced that borrowers with college loans can opt to suspend payments, a move designed to ease the financial turmoil caused by the pandemic.

    All states have an annual federal mandate under the Every Student Succeeds Act to test students in most grades annually for accountability purposes. Some states had already declared they would not administer the tests.

    “The Department of Education will not enforce standardized testing requirements very importantly for students in elementary through high school for the current year. They’ve been through a lot. They’ve been going back and forth. Schools open. Schools not open,” Trump said. “I think a lot of the students will be extremely happy. Some probably not. The one’s that work hard — maybe not.”

    Separately, the administration announced a week after promising to waive interest on federal student loans that Americans contending with the economic impact of the pandemic can opt to suspend their payments altogether.

    “These are anxious times, particularly for students and families whose educations, careers, and lives have been disrupted,” Education Secretary Betsy DeVos said in a statement. “Right now, everyone should be focused on staying safe and healthy, not worrying about their student loan balance growing.”

    For at least 60 days, the 42 million Americans holding $1.5 trillion in federal student debt can ask their loan servicer to allow them to temporarily postpone their payments. Anyone who is more than 31 days behind on their bill as of March 13, or who becomes that delinquent, will have their payments automatically suspended.

    All federal student borrowers, regardless of whether they choose to postpone their payments, will automatically have the interest on their loans set at zero for at least 60 days.

    The new interest rate will be retroactive to March 13.

    People in public service jobs will have to think twice about postponing their payments. Opting out for two months will result in a longer path to debt cancellation for people working toward Public Service Loan Forgiveness. The federal program cancels the remaining balance of a borrower’s debt after 120 on-time monthly payments, but postponing the bill will lengthen the process.

    By Danielle Douglas-Gabriel and Valerie Strauss
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    Rumor is that MA will move to shelter in place on Sunday. It may be announced tomorrow. .

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    Yamiche Alcindor @Yamiche

    Big moment.

    Anthony Fauci, of National Institutes of Health: I strongly support the moves by NY and California governors to lock down their states and order people to remain indoors because of the coronavirus.
    We may have seen the last of Dr Fauci, the only person on that podium who has not stopped telling the truth.
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    Rachel Maddow MSNBC @maddow

    Washington State and Oregon are building -- be several hundred beds in both states now in process, though they're aiming at 1k in Oregon, 3k in Washington.

    Who else is building?

    In this aerial drone photo, workers erect a temporary field hospital for use by people unable to isolate and recover from COVID-19 in their own homes on a soccer field Thursday, March 19, 2020, in the Seattle suburb of Shoreline, Wash. The field hospital will provide up to 200 beds, according to a city website, and will house "people exposed to, at risk of exposure, or becoming ill with the novel coronavirus." (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)
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    Government of Quebec requested this morning for hotels to make available 4000 hotel rooms to be used for hospital rooms.

    I (very) briefly flipped over from CBC Newsworld to CNN an hour ago. Trump was on on saying, "We inherited a terrible, terrible system. It was not prepared for this at all. But we've done a great, great job, and now we're equipped to deal with this."

    I had to flip channels back quickly. Absolutely nauseating. If that's really the case, you had three years to work on that, rather than worrying about a wall or how to keep out Muslims. Of course there are reports that he was gutting certain health programs (CDC, other? I don't recall.) How has he managed not to be assassinated so far?

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