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    Re: Horse Racing Random Random

    Kentucky Derby 4th place finisher, Honor A. P., sustained an injury on his way out of the gate at the beginning of the Derby. It is minor, but he is being retired and will now stand at Lane's End.

    Because, you know, Lane's End doesn't already have enough stallions in the barns.

    Grade 1 Winner Honor A. P. Retired Due To Injury; To Stand At Laneís End
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    Quote Originally Posted by dryrunguy View Post
    When the race started, I remember seeing all of the horses on the inside posts playing bumper cars (#6 horse and inward, IIRC). It wasn't pretty. I'll post the video once it's posted. (KY Downs tends to post them about 1-2 days later.) We can look at it more closely then.

    That kind of trouble happens all the time, but it stands to reason it would be more common in 2-year-olds, especially when you have some first-time starters. But in this case, I think all or most of the first-time starters had outside posts?
    The race is up. Yes, the 6, One Fast Orb, was the one that created the bumper car scenario. Had a domino effect. But some of them rebounded nicely.

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    Tiz the Law will skip the Preakness on October 3 and instead aim for the Breeder's Cup Classic at Keeneland on November 7.

    https://www.drf.com/news/tiz-law-ski...rs-cup-classic
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    Interesting. Maybe more than just regular stiffness. Because seems like the Belmont winner would be a heavier favorite at the Preakness than at the Derby. Guess we'll see if they made the right call in about a month.

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    The connections for Tiz the Law are in a bit of a predicament. Every time he wins, his future stud fee goes up. Every time he loses, his stud fee goes down. Generally speaking, a Breeders Cup Classic win is more prestigious than a Preakness win. So if you MUST pick between one or the other, the Classic is the bigger trophy.
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    I agree on which you choose, just a touch surprised because every year but this one, not winning the Derby can mean skipping the Preakness, but that's when they are just two weeks apart. These races are all one month apart. So doing all 3 didn't seem out of the realm. And honestly, winning 2 of the 3 legs of the Triple Crown is still quite the accomplishment.

    That being said, this would've been a greatly devalued Triple Crown if it had occurred because of the different timeline, which is a big part of the difficulty and contributes to it being a rare occurrence. Maybe the 2 of the 3 not being back to back races is part of the calculation here.

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    Or, one could make a pretty good argument that this would have been the most difficult Triple Crown ever. Having 3 races in the span of 7 weeks is tough, no doubt, but if you can get a horse to peak at the right time (Baffert's specialty), then it can be an ideal scenario. But that's why it happens so rarely.

    Contrast that to three Triple Crown races spread 5 months apart. Under that condition, it's so difficult to keep a horse in good form, especially when their are big-dollar stakes races between where you have to decide if your horse needs them or doesn't. It's a different kind of difficult.

    I originally came down on the side that, if a horse won the Triple Crown this year, it would be somewhat meaningless given the shortening of the Belmont distance. But having watched more closely than I ever have before the challenges high-profile trainers and connections faced between each race this year, especially given the time lag between the Belmont and the Derby, I've shifted more to the middle or perhaps a bit on the other side of the argument. (That is also, in part, swayed by my strong opinion that 1 1/2 miles would have been no problem for a healthy, injury-free Tiz the Law.)

    Or maybe I'm all wet.
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    I didn't even know Belmont was shorter this year. Yeah, definitely devalued for me. The differences in distance are just as important as the timeline of the events, maybe more so. Horses like Smarty Jones that were so close but faltered at the Belmont because of the distance possibly would've been a Triple Crown winner with a shorter track.

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