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    Re: Kermode Ousted as ATP President

    Quote Originally Posted by MJ2004 View Post
    Kermode has been ATP prez since 2014, that's five years. Long enough to warrant a replacement if a change in direction is desired, however slight the reason. Not that I want to side with Djoker, but honestly, I think the conspiracy theorists are working overtime on this one.
    There's also something a bit ironic about how many of the same people throwing stones at Novak are the very same people who insisted on taking a "let's wait and see what the facts reveal" approach to Justin Gimelstob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryrunguy View Post
    There's also something a bit ironic about how many of the same people throwing stones at Novak are the very same people who insisted on taking a "let's wait and see what the facts reveal" approach to Justin Gimelstob.
    I don't even know which players those are, but completely agree. But listen, Justin's gonna have his day in court and plead no contest or guilty and according to him, that will vindicate his version of events, so there's that.

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    Re: Kermode Ousted as ATP President

    Quote Originally Posted by JazzNU View Post
    I don't even know which players those are, but completely agree. But listen, Justin's gonna have his day in court and plead no contest or guilty and according to him, that will vindicate his version of events, so there's that.
    Just as long as the ouster of Kermode is not a plot to install Justin as ATP President...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryrunguy View Post
    Just as long as the ouster of Kermode is not a plot to install Justin as ATP President...
    That feels surprisingly in play. Plenty are wondering why he is voting at all. I've said before if I wondered if part of the reason he passed on the sweet deal he was offered was he didn't want a felony conviction on his record which might prevent him from working with the ATP and I'm still wondering that. It was a gift of a deal, a complete cakewalk on the sentencing that can come with what he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryrunguy View Post
    Just as long as the ouster of Kermode is not a plot to install Justin as ATP President...
    I think that's exactly what it is.

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    I know next to nothing about the WTA's structure and leadership (or, perhaps, lack of), but with the gains, however distributed under Kermode, perhaps they should be in conversation. They seem to be in need of effective leadership and marketing.
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    This Pospisil plea has been circulating for months; the idea of an ATP player union was discussed at least as far back as AO 2018. Is it really a complete mystery why some players are seeking a change in leadership?



    The real mystery, AFAIC, is why, if virtually no one on this list wants to talk to journalists, the narrative focus is almost exclusively on two names.



    Do I think Gimelstob should be on the ATP Board? No. Do I find it sketchy that 2/3 of the Player Reps on the Board are Americans with ties to Tennis Channel? Yes. But if you don't have evidence of wrongdoing by players themselves, suggesting subterfuge is irresponsible.

    Any tennis journalist describing a *vote* not to renew the ATP president’s contract as a “coup” is telling on himself. (And, yes, I use that pronoun advisedly, given the demographics.)

    Related: how much transparency has there been about changes to ATP leadership in the past? If there’s a demand for it now, fine; I’m a fan of transparency. But let’s not pretend the issue here is that players on the council are somehow out of line for voting as they see fit.

    Question: how many ATP presidents since the tour was reorganized in 1988 have served longer than six years at the helm? Certainly not Kermode's three predecessors. It's possible much of the reaction now is based on something other than knowledge of tour history & inner workings.

    From what I've gathered, only Mark Miles lasted longer than Kermode (1990-2005). Every other head of the ATP served a single, 3-year term, excluding Brad Drewett, who withdrew due to his ALS diagnosis.
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    Re: Kermode Ousted as ATP President

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    All board members voting on the CEO renewal should catagorically and legally rule themselves out as contender for the CEO vacancy they are voting to create.
    Huh? If there was board member that had more support than the current CEO, the board is allowed to replace the CEO with that person.

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    Eglee, from TC, is tied to Gimelstob and reportedly will do whatever Gimelstob wants him to do. That's 2/3 right there. That is and has been the concern especially since Eglee, as indicated, is an interim appointment.
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    and here's his full answer. he definitely did shade the councils from before (despite prize money increase being from that period.. which is.. hmmm).. I'm curious to see and know what he finds different with this group.

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    Board Meetings, Not Backhands, Are the Talk of Men’s Tennis
    By Christopher Clarey
    March 11, 2019

    INDIAN WELLS, Calif. — Novak Djokovic played his first official tennis match in more than a month on Saturday night, defeating the American Bjorn Fratangelo in straight sets at the BNP Paribas Open.

    But Djokovic has hardly been taking an extended break from official tennis business.

    Back at No. 1 in the world by a hefty margin, he is also wielding his renewed clout off court as president of the ATP player council. As a result of his maneuvering, the men’s tour is in need of a new chief executive along with some collective purpose and peace of mind, which are likely to remain more elusive than Djokovic and his allies might like.

    As ever, the tension is between the players, who understandably want to maximize their earnings in a brutally competitive sport, and their paymasters, who own and operate the tournaments and understandably would rather keep prize money under tight rein. But the unusual and inconvenient thing in men’s tennis is that the players and paymasters are part of the same internally conflicted organization: the ATP.

    “We are really blocked,” said Gilles Simon, the French player and a former council member. “The structure works against us and the imbalance being already there between the tournaments and the players, the imbalance endures.”

    Acrimony is inevitable. Progress is not. Last week, Djokovic and the players appeared to send a strong message when the player representatives on the ATP Tour’s board of directors voted against extending the contract of Chris Kermode, the ATP’s executive chairman and president, who will now be obliged to step down at the end of 2019.

    But such a political power play is only intimidating if the players are truly united, which seems far from the case.

    The player council, in a nonbinding vote before the board meeting, could not reach agreement on whether to recommend or reject Kermode’s extension.

    In an age of constant communication, the biggest stars are somehow struggling to connect. Roger Federer, a former president of the player council, said Sunday that he had reached out to Djokovic before the vote only to be told that Djokovic could not squeeze him in.

    “That’s hard to understand for me,” Federer said.

    Rafael Nadal, a supporter of Kermode and continuity, said his cellphone was primed and ready, but no calls or texts came his way.

    This sounds more like high school than a global professional sport.

    “They are representing us, so normally they have to ask, what’s our opinion? Not in every small decision, but in big decisions,” Nadal said. “In my opinion, this one was a big decision.”

    The players and the tournaments each have three representatives on the ATP board of directors. The chairman — Kermode since 2014 — has the ability to cast a tiebreaking vote but would prefer to avoid it when possible for fear of endangering support from one side of the divide.

    It is a difficult dance even in the best of circumstances, and Kermode seems to have stepped on the wrong feet.

    Djokovic did not vote him out. That was up to the player representatives that he and the player council have supported or voted into place: David Egdes, a Tennis Channel executive; Alex Inglot, the director of communications at Sportradar; and Justin Gimelstob, the Tennis Channel commentator and former American player, who remains the most polarizing back-room figure in the sport and has remained in place despite facing felony battery charges.

    Under the ATP’s voting system, Kermode needed majority support (at least two votes) from each camp to continue. He received all three of the tournament representatives’ votes but apparently failed to get any of the player representatives’ votes.


    In a letter to ATP staff last week after his ouster, Kermode said it was “ironic” that he was leaving after “the players have achieved some of the greatest gains in the history of the ATP Tour in the past five years.”

    Kermode, a former low-level pro player and high-level tournament director, is a polished and genial Briton who knows how to work a room but apparently not every boardroom.

    Running the ATP Tour is a compromised position to begin with; the real power in tennis lies with the four Grand Slam tournaments, which function independently. Still, he navigated his position of weakness for more than five years, securing sponsorships and a hard-won prize money increase from the top tier of ATP tournaments.

    He also led the creation of new events like the Next Gen ATP Finals, designed to promote young players like 19-year-old Canadian Denis Shapovalov, who will eventually have to step out of the ink-black shadow cast by Federer, Nadal and Djokovic.

    “From what I know of Chris, he was unbelievable,” Shapovalov said.

    But clearly not everyone is in the Kermode fan club.

    He is seen by some of the players as a “tournament guy,” a characterization he rejects. Others grumble about his handling of the ATP Cup, which will be relaunched in the opening week of the 2020 season in Australia.

    With the new-look Davis Cup using a similar format, Kermode tried to avoid a team-event glut by working toward a combined event. But he was overruled last year by the players.

    There is also criticism that he did not secure more prize money gains, above all from the four Grand Slam events. As council president, Federer once spearheaded a successful push for major increases, but with Grand Slam revenues growing, the concern is that prize money has not kept pace.

    Federer and Nadal could re-enter the fray. They talked tennis governance over coffee at Federer’s rented house here last week. But for now, it is the 31-year-old Djokovic’s turn to lead on court and off. He is multitasking at a point in his career when family time is ever more important to him and when he is again on the verge of holding all four of the Grand Slam singles titles.

    Why bother with tennis politics at this stage?, I asked him.

    “I tend to ask that myself, as well,” he said with a grin. “But I feel that it is my responsibility, in a way, as a top player to contribute to the sport in that way, as well.”

    Even if he charts a steadier course in the months to come, putting a more “player friendly” ATP chief in place looks all but impossible with the tournament representatives effectively possessing veto power on the board.

    Changing the governance structure, as Djokovic has suggested, sounds nearly as tricky.

    Craig Tiley, the chief executive of Tennis Australia and a driving force in the Australian Open’s growth, would be a strong ATP leader and has been interested in the chief executive post in the past.

    But with mutual trust at low ebb and no player union in sight, it is likely a compromise candidate will take over.


    Sure, tennis needs change and fresh ideas. But when you tear down a building, it seems best to have a clear idea what will stand in its place.

    A version of this article appears in print on March 12, 2019, on Page B11 of the New York edition with the headline: Board Meetings, Not Backhands, Are the Talk of the Tour. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/s...-djokovic.html
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    David Avakian
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    Statement from ATP Player Board Representatives "following recent comments, coverage and speculation…"

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    I don't know if we can use the pile of poop emoji here so I'll just say that that is what that statement is.
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    Since this is related I'll put this here:

    INSIDE TENNIS
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    #Gimelstob NOT GRANTED CONTINUANCE: According to sources, Justin asked for a continuance in his assault case, but Judge denies it & sets April 8 date for preliminary hearing when alleged victim, LAPD & witnesses could be called in & it could be determined if there will be a trial
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    About time the Gimelstob story comes back even though too late for the ATP vote
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