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  1. #781

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Wow. Someone actually made this argument (leaving out the part about Tiny being a manly man) about Pete at the hair dresser today. She's one of the loud, devout Christian ladies.

    Alex Thompson
    @AlxThomp
    Limbaugh today on Pete: “gay guy, 37 years old, loves kissing his husband on debate stages. Can you see Trump have fun with that?..they're saying, OK, how's this going to look, 37-year-old gay guy kissing his husband on stage next to Mr. Man Donald Trump?”
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  2. #782

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Nevada is the next big primary for Democrats. Sanders and his supporters seem to have put their collective feet in it.

    ELECTION 2020
    Culinary Union suggests Sanders, Warren asking union members to trade health plans for ‘promises’
    By
    Megan Messerly
    February 7th, 2020 - 11:20am

    The politically powerful Culinary Union hasn’t yet endorsed in the Democratic presidential primary, but it is making clear which candidates it won’t be supporting.

    A one-pager from the union, the kind of document usually distributed in employee dining rooms and break areas, obtained by The Nevada Independent obliquely accuses Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren of wanting to take away union members’ hard-fought and much beloved health plans and warns that electing either candidate will lead to four more years of a Donald Trump presidency.

    The union, which provides health insurance to 130,000 workers and their family members through a special trust fund, strongly opposes the Medicare-for-all plans the two candidates support, which would eliminate the union’s health plan by design.

    However, until now, union leaders have directed their ire more generally at the policy than the candidates who back it.

    “Trump and his Republicans are actively trying to destroy healthcare for working families, but presidential candidates suggesting forcing millions of hard working people to give up their healthcare creates unnecessary division between workers, and will give us four more years of Trump,” the flyer says.


    Though the handout does not mention either candidate by name, Sanders and Warren are the only two remaining candidates in the Democratic presidential race who back Medicare for all.

    The Culinary Union, which represents 60,000 hotel workers in Las Vegas and Reno, has not yet decided whether it will endorse in the Democratic presidential primary. Culinary Union Secretary-Treasurer Geoconda Arguello-Kline has said the union is likely to endorse in the presidential race should its parent union decline to do so, as it did in late January.

    A union spokeswoman said in a text message earlier this week that there was “no endorsement yet” and “no updates” on the timing of a possible endorsement. She did not immediately have further details Friday morning about the flyer.

    The handout takes a direct shot at Sanders, who told union members during a town hall in December that they would receive an extra $12,000 a year to their paychecks under Medicare for all.

    “Some politicians promise… ‘You will get more money for wages from the company if you give up Culinary Health Insurance,’” the flyer says. “These politicians have never sat at our bargaining table or been on a 24/7, 6 years, 4 months, and 10 days strike line — like we have to make an employer pay for healthcare. We will not hand over our healthcare for promises.”

    There, the flyer is referencing the six-year-long strike by workers at the Frontier Hotel and Casino, who walked off the job in 1991 over better wages and health care benefits. Union leaders often mention the strike in talking about why they don’t want to see their health plans replaced by a single-payer, government-run health system.

    “We have fought for 85 years to protect our health care. Why would we let politicians take it away?” the flyer says. “A history of blood, sweat, and tears secured our healthcare, not politicians promises. We fought for our health care.”

    Sanders state director Sarah Michelsen said Friday the campaign feels confident about its support from working class Nevadans and the Latino community, who make up the core of Culinary’s membership. She also noted that the Vermont senator has been endorsed by several locals of UNITE HERE, the Culinary Union’s parent.

    “The senator has said we believe that Medicare for all will take health care off the bargaining table for unions and allow them to get more out of those processes in wages and other benefits,” Michelsen said. “That’s our belief and that’s where we’re at.”

    Warren’s campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Culinary health insurance is considered some of the best in the state, and the union opened a 60,000-square-foot health clinic a couple of years ago for its members, complete with urgent care, primary care and a pharmacy, where generic prescriptions are free. Union leaders have repeatedly stressed their belief that health care is a right and their desire to guarantee health insurance for all, so long as it doesn’t impinge on the union’s plan.

    “OUR UNION BELIEVES EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO GOOD HEALTHCARE,” the flyer says. “The high price of healthcare is killing Americans. Big Pharma, for profit insurance companies, and greedy hospital monopolies need to put people over profits.”

    Arguello-Kline has, in interviews over the last few months, made clear the union’s serious concerns about Medicare for all but has never specifically ruled out endorsing a candidate who supports the policy. But, in an interview with the Independent in October, she stressed the difficulty of selling a candidate who supports a single-payer system to her members.

    “How am I going to go and talk to the members and say, ‘You have to support a member like that?’” Arguello-Kline said. “I don’t think so.”


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  3. #783

    Re: The Run to the WH

    The Culinary Union @Culinary226 Feb 11
    The Culinary’s parent union, UNITE HERE, has decided not to endorse in the 2020 contest. In 2008, the Culinary endorsed Barack Obama. In 2016 it made no endorsement.

    Horsford: “60,000 workers benefit from their membership in Culinary Union — they have fair wages, job security, and good health benefits. Today, we are one step closer to securing those rights for all American workers by passing this crucial legislation.”
    In new flyer, Culinary Union warns members Sanders would ‘end’ their health care if elected president
    By
    Megan Messerly
    February 11th, 2020 - 7:52pm

    Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders would “end Culinary Healthcare” if elected president, according to a new one-pager the politically powerful Culinary Union is posting back of house on the Las Vegas Strip.

    The new flyer, a copy of which was obtained by The Nevada Independent, compares the positions on health care, “good jobs” and immigration of six Demoratic presidential hopefuls who have come to the union’s headquarters over the last two months to court its members. But the primary difference outlined in the document, which is being distributed in both English and Spanish, is in the candidates’ positions on health care, taking particular aim at the Vermont senator over his Medicare-for-all policy, which would establish a single-payer, government run health insurance system.

    The flyer says Sanders, if elected president, would “end Culinary Healthcare,” “require ‘Medicare For All,’” and “lower drug prices.”

    The language it uses to describe the position of Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who also supports Medicare for all after a transition period, is much gentler: “‘Medicare for All,’” “replace Culinary Healthcare after 3-year transition or at end of collective bargaining agreements,” and “lower drug prices.”

    The Culinary Union, which provides health insurance to 130,000 workers and their family members through a special trust fund, strongly opposes Medicare for all on the basis that it would eliminate the health insurance they have negotiated for over several decades. Health insurance provided by the Culinary Health Fund is considered to be some of the best in the state, and the union even opened a 60,000-square-foot state-of-the-art health clinic a couple of years ago for its members.

    The union, considered an organizing behemoth in the Silver State, has been known to tip the scales in elections in the past. Though the 60,000-member union has not yet decided whether it will endorse in the Democratic presidential primary, the flyer appears to be part of a coordinated campaign ahead of Nevada’s Feb. 22 Democratic presidential primary and shows the union will not be sitting idly by, with or without an endorsement.

    A spokeswoman for the Culinary Union said the flyer is also going out to members Tuesday night via text and email.

    Another handout that The Nevada Independent reported on last week obliquely accuses Sanders and Warren of wanting to take away union members’ hard-fought health plans and warns that electing a candidate who supports Medicare for all would lead to four more years of a Donald Trump presidency.

    The new flyer makes more clear the distinction the union is drawing between Sanders’ and Warren’s plans. The flyer also lauds the four other presidential hopefuls — former Vice President Joe Biden, former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and California billionaire Tom Steyer — for backing more modest plans to establish a government-run public health care option that would “protect Culinary Health care.”

    The only other difference the flyer draws between the six candidates is on the issue of “good jobs.” The flyer says that all of the candidates all would work to “strengthen organizing, collective bargaining, and right to strike,” but only Klobuchar would “work with unions on regulations about technology at work,” which has been a major concern for the Culinary Union given the rise of automation in the service industry.

    On immigration, the flyer says that all six candidates would “protect DACA and TPS immigrants, keep families together” and “provide pathway to citizenship.”

    The union is making it known, however, that it will be under no circumstances supporting President Donald Trump. The flyer lists Trump’s positions in a bright red banner across the sheet as “dismantle Obamacare,” “weakened unions and right to organize,” and “end DACA and TPS. Separate families. No to path to citizenship.”

    The document also encourages Culinary Union members to participate in the caucus process by directing them to early voting sites at the union’s headquarters, on the Strip and other “community sites,” as well as Caucus Day voting locations at at-Large precincts in hotels and “neighborhood precincts.”


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  4. #784

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    The Culinary Union
    @Culinary226
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    Feb 12
    STATEMENT by Geoconda Argüello-Kline: It’s disappointing Senator Sanders’ supporters have viciously attacked the Culinary Union & working families in NV simply because we provided facts on proposals that might takeaway what we have built over 8 decades. ➡️https://culinaryunion226.org/news/pr...ine-2020-02-12




    Megan Messerly @meganmesserly
    More details:
    @Culinary226 ’s spokeswoman tells me they have received “hundreds” of attacks, in the form of mentions, DM’s, calls and emails, including threats to their personal safety. She says she and Geoconda Arguello-Kline have been doxxed, their personal addresses shared.
    Responses from Sanders supporters:

    anarchafeminist bernie brocialist🌈💞💞☭Ⓐ🎼👽
    Replying to
    @meganmesserly
    and
    @Culinary226
    If a Union leader cares more about their group having better employer based healthcare compared to the rest of workers, than they do about getting the best healthcare they can for themselves and the rest of the working class, they've got 0 solidarity &should not be a Union leader
    ScribblerD🌹🇵🇷
    @davidm17x

    Replying to
    @meganmesserly
    and
    @Culinary226
    Culinary226 leadership has deep ties with the Democratic establishment. This whole thing is being done on purpose to make a conflict where there is none. They don't respect the intelligence of their members to see through it, which is pretty disrespectful but expected.
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  5. #785

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    Culinary Union officials face profanity-laced attacks after scorecard says Sanders would ‘end’ their health care
    By Megan Messerly
    February 14th, 2020 - 2:00am

    Two top Culinary Union officials have faced threatening phone calls, emails and tweets and say their personal information was shared online after the release of a union scorecard that took particular aim at Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

    Secretary-Treasurer Geoconda Arguello-Kline, for instance, has come under attack for her Nicaraguan heritage, and union spokeswoman Bethany Khan was accused of being paid off by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other Democratic establishment types. In tweets, the union and its leadership have been referred to as “bitches,” “whore,” “****ing scab” and “evil, entitled assholes.”

    A commenter on a Nevada Independent article referred to members of the Culinary Union, who hail from 178 countries and speak more than 40 different languages, as “illegals.”

    In one email, which the union provided to the Independent, Culinary leaders are referred to as “corrupt mother ****ers” and says that it’s “time for people like me to go after you.”

    “This is your chance to fix your mistake before the millions and millions of Bernie Sanders supporters will find you and end your ability to earn a living,” the email says. “We will find you corrupt mother ****ers of that you can be sure and we will make sure you wallow in poverty and suffering.”

    “Apologize and fix your mistake or else you will pay … I know tens of thousands of Bernie supporters and we will come after you fascist imbeciles,” it continues. “#Bernie2020 #NotMeUs.”

    Khan said the union has received dozens of phone calls, more than 300 emails and thousands of tweets over the last 48 hours.

    The attacks against the hotel workers’ union come in the wake of the public release of a scorecard, which The Nevada Independent first reported on Tuesday, that criticizes the Vermont senator over his position on Medicare for all by saying that he would “end Culinary healthcare” if elected president. The union, which runs a health trust that covers 130,000 members and their families, opposes any single-payer, government-run health insurance system that would eliminate their much-loved health plans.

    The union has been circulating the scorecard via text and email to their members, as well as back of house in Las Vegas hotels. Though the union declined to endorse a Democratic presidential candidate on Thursday, it has about 100 organizers dedicated to generally turning out union membership to this year’s caucus.

    Sanders, in a statement Thursday, condemned “harassment in all forms” and said that he urges “supporters of all campaigns not to engage in bullying or ugly personal attacks.”

    “We can certainly disagree on issues, but we must do it in a respectful manner,” he added.

    Later, in an interview with PBS Newshour, Sanders sought to distance himself from the attacks.

    “Obviously, that is not acceptable to me. And I don’t know who these so-called supporters are. You know, we are living in a strange world on the internet … Anybody making personal attacks against anybody else in my name is not part of our movement,” Sanders said.

    The Sanders campaign, asked for further comment, pointed back to the senator’s statement.

    Arguello-Kline, asked whether there is more Sanders should have done to condemn the attacks, was indirect in her criticism.

    “We respect Senator Sanders a lot. We do. We know he’s always been great with the labor and everything. But I think in situations like this he knows what’s going on in this country and he knows this is very dangerous,” Arguello-Kline said.

    As far as Sanders’ decision to wait more than 24 hours to respond after the Culinary Union publicized the “vicious attacks” it was facing, she said that “sooner would’ve been better — less damage.” Khan did, however, note that after Sanders’ weighed in on the attacks that it seemed like the tweets the union was receiving started getting more civil and some old tweets had been deleted.

    The two Culinary leaders say that the backlash won’t inhibit their get out the vote efforts but that it has taken a mental and emotional toll on them. Khan said that she has received calls from people telling her that she is “a ****ing whore,” a “bitch,” and “an ignorant dumb ****.”

    “It derailed a 24-hour work day for me where I had to go home at 2 a.m. and then start working because I was constantly being called, being emailed, I couldn’t keep up on social media I would just get mentions and try to figure out what was happening,” Khan said. “And it’s disappointing when it’s supposed to be people who are on our side.”

    Arguello-Kline said her personal information was shared online, causing her kids to fear for her safety. The Nevada Independent reviewed a thread where Redditors appeared to confirm that Arguello-Kline’s personal information had been shared, but was unable to find the exact instance of where it had been posted.

    “Right now, in this country you cannot put the facts on the table anymore, and that’s what we did. We put the facts to the members. That’s all we did,” Arguello-Kline said. “They’re threatening Bethany, they threatened me, they’ve threatened two women. We’re women of color.”

    The two women noted that D. Taylor, international president of Culinary’s parent union UNITE HERE, and Ted Pappageorge, president of the Culinary Union, have not received similar threats. Union officials have additionally filed a report with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department over the attacks.

    “What we did is let them know the situation and take it serious,” Arguello-Kline said. “That’s what we did, because now you cannot play with threats.”

    As far as the union’s get out the caucus efforts, Arguello-Kline said the Culinary Union will continue to distribute its scorecard to members, have organizers talk with union members back of house, phonebank morning and night, and send text messages to its members. She said the union is putting a particular focus on getting “thousands and thousands” of its members out to early vote, what she described as an “easier” process for members.

    “We’re elected leaders and one of our responsibilities is to protect our members as the first responsibility,” Arguello-Kline said. “This is not going to start to weaken putting out the facts.”

    The union, she said, isn’t telling anyone who to vote for or who not to vote for, they’re just giving their members information and letting them make a choice.

    “We don’t say, ‘Don’t vote for this, vote for this.’ We don’t say nothing like that,” Arguello-Kline said. “We say, ‘This is the knowledge you need to have, and you have to make a decision at the end.’”

    Editor’s note: We understand that some people may find the profanity in this story offensive. But the unsettling language is an integral part of the story, so we made the decision to include it in its unvarnished form.

    The Nevada Independent is a 501(c)3 nonprofit news organization. We are committed to transparency and disclose all our donors. The following people or entities mentioned in this article are financial supporters of our work:

    Bethany Khan - $125
    Culinary Workers Union - $7,325

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  6. #786

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Jason Karsh
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    And now, as the attacks inevitably broaden to include those like MM who’ve reported this, I imagine we’ll be told those are fake and made up as well.
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    Culinary Union is Harry Reid's people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shtexas View Post
    Culinary Union is Harry Reid's people.


    I'm beginning to understand why after 30 years in the Senate Sanders has never gotten anything done.
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  9. #789

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    I'm beginning to understand why after 30 years in the Senate Sanders has never gotten anything done.

  10. #790

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    Quote Originally Posted by shtexas View Post
    Culinary Union is Harry Reid's people.
    Perhaps so; but the Union's message was correct. Medicare for all ala Sanders plan would end their current healthcare plan. If that is an issue for them, well. so be it. That said, this is what I find troubling about some of Sanders supporters. They don't seem any more rational than Trump supporters (or at least, the majority of them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff in TX View Post
    Perhaps so; but the Union's message was correct. Medicare for all ala Sanders plan would end their current healthcare plan. If that is an issue for them, well. so be it. That said, this is what I find troubling about some of Sanders supporters. They don't seem any more rational than Trump supporters (or at least, the majority of them).
    10% of Sanders's supporters voted for Trump in 2016.

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  12. #792

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    Black Florida Progressive Says Bloomberg Campaign Tried to Buy His Support
    JERRY IANNELLI | FEBRUARY 14, 2020 | 8:00AM

    Michael Bloomberg's general pitch for president is that he is richer, more ruthless, and more willing to buy his way to an election win than Donald Trump. He's been sued a ton for alleged sexual harassment and discrimination, seems to have a frightening and psychotic relationship with dogs, and appeared in Jeffrey Epstein's black book. The #Resistance views these traits in Donald Trump as signs the president is a rapacious pig-man, which it true. But these same traits apparently make Bloomberg a principled leader, at least according to some hosts on MSNBC.

    But other Democrats aren't buying Bloomberg's shtick — or, more accurate, letting themselves be bought. Earlier this week, South Florida progressive activist Elijah Manley said he received a call from a Bloomberg staffer who offered him $6,500 per month (plus medical benefits) if Manley would join the campaign as an adviser for "racial justice and social justice issues." Manley says he declined because he's a Bernie Sanders supporter and because he thought Bloomberg was, frankly, trying to buy black support in Florida.

    "At first, I was kinda interested and debated providing any resources I could," says Manley, a 21-year-old who rose to local fame as a progressive activist in Broward County when he was in high school. "But once they put a price tag on it, it seemed desperate and not authentic. It seemed like they wanted to basically use me as a token."

    As the Intercept first reported yesterday, that offer isn't out of the ordinary for the Bloomberg's campaign. The businessman and former mayor of New York City, who is worth an estimated $55 billion, is one of the ten richest people in the world — and he is raining money on staffers, campaign advisers, and even Instagram influencers in order to pretend he's cool and funny and not an oligarch who has said racist stuff in public for decades. The Intercept reported that Bloomberg's salary offers (often $5,000 to $8,000 a month plus housing stipends, laptops, phones, and benefits) are so generous he's luring scores of staffers from other campaigns. Though it's normal for campaign staffers to make decent money, the sheer size and scale of the cash Bloomberg is throwing around borders on unprecedented in American politics. He has also notably received endorsements from a whole host of politicians who benefited in the past from his own so-called charitable giving.

    The Bloomberg campaign did not respond to a message from New Times yesterday, but his camp told a Miami Herald reporter earlier this week that Manley's claims were "simply not true." Nevertheless, Manley says he received a call from Dan Kanninen, a former Barack Obama staffer who now serves as a Bloomberg 2020 states director, according to Kanninen's Twitter bio. Manley provided New Times a screenshot of the call log on his phone showing that on February 6, he spoke for 16 minutes with someone using the phone number matching Kanninen's political consulting firm, STG. The firm did not respond to a message from New Times yesterday.

    https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/m...anley-11518858
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  13. #793

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Biden's campaign seems to be teetering on the edge of colapse. If it he does go down I imagine the Black electorate will move over to Bloomberg. Am I wrong in my assesment?
    Roger forever

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    Quote Originally Posted by suliso View Post
    Biden's campaign seems to be teetering on the edge of colapse. If it he does go down I imagine the Black electorate will move over to Bloomberg. Am I wrong in my assesment?
    Yes.

    (At least I hope so)

    For some reason there seems to be a push on to get Biden out before black voters have a chance to express their opinions on the candidates.
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  15. #795

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Yes.

    (At least I hope so)

    For some reason there seems to be a push on to get Biden out before black voters have a chance to express their opinions on the candidates.
    OK, where do you think they'd gravitate if Biden were to drop out today?
    Roger forever

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