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  1. #1711

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Kamala Harris with her husband and both stepchildren

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  2. #1712

    Re: The Run to the WH

    His name is Douglas Emhoff. I've been following him since the primaries.
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.




  3. #1713

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    Editor's Note: Eastman's Newsweek Column Has Nothing to Do With Racist Birtherism
    NANCY COOPER AND JOSH HAMMER
    ON 8/13/20 AT 12:31 AM EDT

    Some of our readers have reacted strongly to the op-ed we published by Dr. John Eastman, assuming it to be an attempt to ignite a racist conspiracy theory around Kamala Harris' candidacy. Dr. Eastman was focusing on a long-standing, somewhat arcane legal debate about the precise meaning of the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment. His essay has no connection whatsoever to so-called "birther-ism," the racist 2008 conspiracy theory aimed at delegitimizing then-candidate Barack Obama by claiming, baselessly, that he was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. We share our readers' revulsion at those vile lies.

    The 14th Amendment is one of the most-studied areas of constitutional law, and questions were raised by the Constitution's Article II, Section 1 "natural born Citizen" requirement for presidential eligibility about both John McCain and Ted Cruz, at the time of their respective runs. The meaning of "natural born Citizen," and the relation of that Article II textual requirement to the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause, are issues of legal interpretation about which scholars and commentators can, and will, robustly disagree.

    Debating the meaning of these constitutional provisions and, in the particular case of Dr. Eastman's piece, the meaning of the 14th Amendment's phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," is not an attempt to deny facts or to make false claims. No one is questioning Harris' place of birth or the legitimacy of an obviously valid birth certificate.

    On the contrary, leading law schools have long entertained debates between competing scholars about the original public meaning of the Citizenship Clause. The issue discussed in these debates, and contested by Dr. Eastman, is whether birthright citizenship (jus soli, birth by soil), as opposed to merely citizenship by parentage (jus sanguinis, that is, citizenship by citizenship of one's parents at time of birth), is textually mandated. Again, scholars can, and do, disagree on this point.

    Some scholars contend that "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" refers to a "partial" jurisdiction (e.g., when a citizen travels to a foreign land and is subject to the criminal laws of that foreign land), and some contend that it refers to a "complete" jurisdiction, which means political allegiance (hence, jus sanguinis). This "natural born Citizen" presidential requirement was debated during the 2000 and 2008 presidential campaigns of McCain (born in the Panama Canal Zone), the 2016 presidential campaign of Cruz (born in Calgary, Alberta), and at other times. In Harris' case, because her parents were not U.S. citizens at the time of her birth, her "natural born Citizen" status—a constitutional requirement for the presidency—is necessarily dependent on whether the 14th Amendment Citizenship Clause mandates jus soli, as opposed to just jus sanguinis (holding aside any independent congressional legislation in this field).


    The author of the op-ed, John Eastman, a Ph.D. and longtime law professor/former law school dean who has litigated countless cases at the Supreme Court and previously clerked for Justice Clarence Thomas, is a preeminent constitutional scholar widely associated with the legal argument that the aforementioned Clause does not constitutionally mandate jus soli. (Josh Hammer, Newsweek's opinion editor, is a published constitutional scholar and former federal court of appeals law clerk who was involved in helping Senator Cruz's 2016 presidential campaign rebut the erroneous claims that Cruz was ineligible on "natural born Citizen" grounds.)

    The debate pertaining to the precise constitutional requirements for the Article II phrase "natural born Citizen," having been aired in 2000, 2008 and 2016, is unlikely to fall quiet soon.

    https://www.newsweek.com/editors-not...herism-1524800
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.




  4. #1714

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    Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1

    Pool report: "During the pool spray at the briefing, [Biden was asked]: 'President Trump today said that he opposes funding for the Postal Service, tying it to mail-in voting. What do you think about that?' Mr. Biden responded: 'Pure Trump. He doesn't want an election.'"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Editor's Note: Eastman's Newsweek Column Has Nothing to Do With Racist Birtherism
    NANCY COOPER AND JOSH HAMMER
    ON 8/13/20 AT 12:31 AM EDT

    Some of our readers have reacted strongly to the op-ed we published by Dr. John Eastman, assuming it to be an attempt to ignite a racist conspiracy theory around Kamala Harris' candidacy. Dr. Eastman was focusing on a long-standing, somewhat arcane legal debate about the precise meaning of the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the Citizenship Clause of the 14th Amendment. His essay has no connection whatsoever to so-called "birther-ism," the racist 2008 conspiracy theory aimed at delegitimizing then-candidate Barack Obama by claiming, baselessly, that he was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. We share our readers' revulsion at those vile lies.

    The 14th Amendment is one of the most-studied areas of constitutional law, and questions were raised by the Constitution's Article II, Section 1 "natural born Citizen" requirement for presidential eligibility about both John McCain and Ted Cruz, at the time of their respective runs. The meaning of "natural born Citizen," and the relation of that Article II textual requirement to the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause, are issues of legal interpretation about which scholars and commentators can, and will, robustly disagree.

    Debating the meaning of these constitutional provisions and, in the particular case of Dr. Eastman's piece, the meaning of the 14th Amendment's phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," is not an attempt to deny facts or to make false claims. No one is questioning Harris' place of birth or the legitimacy of an obviously valid birth certificate.

    On the contrary, leading law schools have long entertained debates between competing scholars about the original public meaning of the Citizenship Clause. The issue discussed in these debates, and contested by Dr. Eastman, is whether birthright citizenship (jus soli, birth by soil), as opposed to merely citizenship by parentage (jus sanguinis, that is, citizenship by citizenship of one's parents at time of birth), is textually mandated. Again, scholars can, and do, disagree on this point.

    Some scholars contend that "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" refers to a "partial" jurisdiction (e.g., when a citizen travels to a foreign land and is subject to the criminal laws of that foreign land), and some contend that it refers to a "complete" jurisdiction, which means political allegiance (hence, jus sanguinis). This "natural born Citizen" presidential requirement was debated during the 2000 and 2008 presidential campaigns of McCain (born in the Panama Canal Zone), the 2016 presidential campaign of Cruz (born in Calgary, Alberta), and at other times. In Harris' case, because her parents were not U.S. citizens at the time of her birth, her "natural born Citizen" status—a constitutional requirement for the presidency—is necessarily dependent on whether the 14th Amendment Citizenship Clause mandates jus soli, as opposed to just jus sanguinis (holding aside any independent congressional legislation in this field).


    The author of the op-ed, John Eastman, a Ph.D. and longtime law professor/former law school dean who has litigated countless cases at the Supreme Court and previously clerked for Justice Clarence Thomas, is a preeminent constitutional scholar widely associated with the legal argument that the aforementioned Clause does not constitutionally mandate jus soli. (Josh Hammer, Newsweek's opinion editor, is a published constitutional scholar and former federal court of appeals law clerk who was involved in helping Senator Cruz's 2016 presidential campaign rebut the erroneous claims that Cruz was ineligible on "natural born Citizen" grounds.)

    The debate pertaining to the precise constitutional requirements for the Article II phrase "natural born Citizen," having been aired in 2000, 2008 and 2016, is unlikely to fall quiet soon.

    https://www.newsweek.com/editors-not...herism-1524800
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  6. #1716

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    I know this is odd, but...
    Have you read Sarah Palin's "advice" to Kamala Harris? Low key, sensible, friendly, respectful. Truly valid. It is surprising that Sarah wrote that.
    May have run out of bourbon during the pandemic. But honor where honor is due.
    I finally found a copy of the actual message, and it sounds exactly like Sarah Palin. Pfft. Some of you seem to have forgotten who she really is. Here is my translation of what she would have meant if she any self-awareness at all:

    "The election is all about Joe Biden, so you can do anything you want. He is running his election, you can run your own election. There is absolutely no need to coordinate with him or his staff on anything from campaign events to platform messaging. Forget any idea of this campaign being a team effort. Your campaign is all about you.

    You are allowed to publicly praise me and Geraldine Ferraro, but I don't give a *bleep* about Hillary Clinton.

    And most of all, remember that your ego is more important that winning any stupid election."

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  7. #1717

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    I must have misread it. For Sarah Palin, I thought it was the height of decorum.
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

  8. #1718

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    I must have misread it. For Sarah Palin, I thought it was the height of decorum.
    In my opinion, "No, you didn't misread the message, but rather you forgot who Sarah Palin was". Her message did have decorum, but it also had very large amounts of self-unawareness. She is recommending that Kamala Harris emulate her complete unwillingness to take advice or work as a team.

    To me, it appears that she has never realized that the bad press that she got was due to her actions and stands, as opposed to John McCain's actions and stands. She didn't seem to realize that the methods and platforms she used to win the governorship of Alaska were not going to be well received by the rest of the country. (I was going to say that no one with her behavior and stands would never get elected to national office, but that is obviously wrong.) Therefore, to her, campaigning in her manner was the correct way, no matter what anyone else said; and that she was right no matter what anyone else said. (Sound familiar?) And if her methods and platforms were hurting the campaign, she would be unwilling to recognize that fact. (Sound familiar?) So, for me, Sarah Palin is a poster child for People-from-whom-you-should-not-take-campaign-advice.
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