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  1. #1351

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Quote Originally Posted by suliso View Post
    It's easy to do an analysis and dismiss everyone. Who else has been mentioned?

    ...
    Sure. But I believe that that is the way politics are run today. You can have a sterling record, be smart as hell, have the experience but right now, one case of something remotely questionable puts you out. For example, if a photo of you when you were a teenager wearing black face in the 1970's surfaces, your are gone. Regardless of everything else.
    We saw it with Katie Hill. One "inappropriate relationship" with a staffer (consenting adults behind closed doors) and she was forced to resign. Now a GOP-er has that seat.
    If it were up to me, almost every woman in the senate would be a good VP. But you also have to add the terrible reality: women are judged differently, by which I mean more harshly. We saw it in the last election. If Hillary Clinton had been Harry Clinton she would have won, with all her credentials. Yet, she was downed by an intrinsic misogyny in our culture (and sure, cheating by the GOP and the Russian aid).
    Whitmer clicks a lot of buttons. Lujan Grisham too. But as always, the Dems operate on a different sphere. The GOP will nominate a verifiable con-man that sucks at the job of being president, with a severely flawed religious-lunatic as sidekick. And they won't care. The dems want Siddharta and the Dalai Lama in the ticket. And if they don't get it, they go full "Bernie Bros": "Well, I am not going to vote for THAT woman! I will vote for a guy that will get 100,000 votes. I have principles!"
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

  2. #1352

    Re: The Run to the WH

    I'm not saying I disagree ponchi, but who is your favorite candidate? It's not obvious from your last few posts.
    Roger forever

  3. #1353

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Biden and Lujan Grisham. Kamala for AG. Warren for Sec. of the Treasury. Replace Pelosi with a younger woman for the House Leader. If you get the Senate, Klobuchar to take control there.
    Hillary Secretary of Defense, Whitmer Secretary of the Interior (to groom her a bit more). And of course, Abrams to re-shape voting laws.
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

  4. #1354

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    Lujan Grisham? Never heard of her before... What's her greatest strength?

    Pelosi is not going to be replaced. She loves her position too much and anyway it's not up to Biden.
    Roger forever

  5. #1355

    Re: The Run to the WH

    I just looked Lujan Grisham up. I'd never heard of her before. She ticks boxes important for the Dems in November and has had experience in governing.

    I should say here that "Latino/Latina" is not a one size fits all designation. There are cultural and historical differences between Mexicans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans and Central Americans that shouldn't be ignored.





    I still like Castro but Biden committed to a woman so...
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.




  6. #1356

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Quote Originally Posted by suliso View Post
    Lujan Grisham? Never heard of her before... What's her greatest strength?

    Pelosi is not going to be replaced. She loves her position too much and anyway it's not up to Biden.
    I thought Pelosi agreed to serve only one more term as part of the deal that put her over the top in the Speaker's vote last year.

  7. #1357

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    I would put Lujan Grisham second on the likelihood list of non-Senator VP picks (after Whitmer). She would be quite a good option.

    About Pelosi...I think that if the Dems get control of both houses, she will step down as Speaker. If the Republicans keep the Senate, she may stay around since she knows that she is more apt to get in their faces (meaning McConnell especially) than a new person might be.

    GH

  8. #1358

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    Jamison Foser
    @jamisonfoser

    This letter was written by someone who harbors deep hatred for the written word. The comma placement appears to be entirely random, or possibly a prank, and that isn’t even the biggest flaw.
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.




  9. #1359

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Exhibit A: Pennsylvania Legislature. Whoever composed this letter is just talking loud and saying nothing to quote the late James Brown.
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.




  10. #1360

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    Eric Nudelman
    @Enoodles
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.




  11. #1361

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    Ponchi went through the female senators yesterday, and I wanted to say that Jeanne Shaheen (https://boston.cbslocal.com/video/45...for-bidens-vp/), who does have a cool name, and Catherine Cortez Masto (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...eration-287923) have taken themselves out of the running. Mazie Hirono wasn't born in the US and so isn't eligible.

    In addition, I agree that Sinema, Feinstein, Stabenow, Smith, Rosen, Gillibrand, Cantwell, and Murray have basically no chance of being chosen. That leaves Hassan (I realize this is an extreme longshot but New Hampshire is a swing state), Duckworth, Baldwin, Klobuchar, Warren, and Harris in addition to all of the non-senators.
    Last edited by Togtdyalttai; 05-28-2020 at 08:34 PM.
    Go Pack Go!

  12. #1362

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    Quote Originally Posted by Togtdyalttai View Post
    Ponchi went through the female senators yesterday, and I wanted to say that Jeanne Shaheen (https://boston.cbslocal.com/video/45...for-bidens-vp/), who does have a cool name, and Catherine Cortez Masto (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...eration-287923) have taken themselves out of the running. Mazie Hirono wasn't born in the US and so isn't eligible.

    In addition, I agree that Sinema, Feinstein, Stabenow, Smith, Rosen, Gillibrand, Cantwell, and Murray have basically no chance of being chosen. That leaves Hassan (I realize this is an extreme longshot but New Hampshire is a swing state), Duckworth, Baldwin, Klobuchar, Warren, and Harris in addition to all of the non-senators.
    Hirono's mother was a citizen, so she would qualify. The US Constitution doesn't specify that someone must be born in the US, but that they be born a natural citizen and that's why John McCain, and Ted Cruz were eligible.

  13. #1363

    Re: The Run to the WH

    Quote Originally Posted by skatingfan View Post
    Hirono's mother was a citizen, so she would qualify. The US Constitution doesn't specify that someone must be born in the US, but that they be born a natural citizen and that's why John McCain, and Ted Cruz were eligible.
    Oops, I hadn't realized that about her mother.
    Go Pack Go!

  14. #1364

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    About the RNC letter to the NC Governor: I'm sure I'm not missing this....there is no mention of wearing masks at that convention. If I were the governor, in the remotest chance that I would agree to let this go forward, there would be a condition that people not wearing masks would not be allowed within 100 yards of the building or inside. That would include you-know-who.

    I would never agree to their plan for filling up the place, so that is a moot point.

    TI's comments about the grammar....agreed. Before I saw your comment, I was especially enjoying the creative use of run-on sentences.

    GH

  15. #1365

    Re: The Run to the WH

    From: https://electoral-vote.com/

    Consistent with the above item, we suspect that Amy Klobuchar will withdraw her name from VP consideration very soon. If so, she'll be the second senator to do it, as Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV) pulled out of the race on Thursday, adding that "Nevada's economy is one of the hardest hit by the current crisis and I will continue to focus on getting Nevadans the support they need to get back on their feet.

    Generally, withdrawing from consideration is a face-saving maneuver that sounds a heck of a lot better than "I was rejected." So, odds are very high that Cortez Masto was advised recently that Biden 2020 had no intention of picking her. Truth be told, despite her impressive résumé, she didn't really make that much sense as a running mate. Nevada, as a purplish-blue state, is likely safe, especially since it's been hit so hard by COVID-19 (and the federal mismanagement thereof), and also because it's got a lot of union voters and Biden now has the formal support of the AFL-CIO.

    If courting Latino/Southwestern voters is the goal, then Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D-NM) is probably the better call, since she has substantial executive experience as well as 6 years in the House. Or, if Biden wanted to go off the board and make a strong play for Texas, he could tap Rep. Veronica Escobar (D-TX), who happens to represent Beto O'Rourke's former district. She is only in her first term in the House, but she's been in politics for a decade, and is regarded as an excellent campaigner.

    That said, it's pretty clear at this point that courting Latino/Southwestern voters is not the goal, as Cortez Masto has given the full Sherman, and Lujan Grisham has given the soft Sherman, suggesting they both know a Latina is not in the cards this year. Unless everything the Biden campaign has been putting off is a misdirect, they are choosing between a party-unifying progressive (probably Elizabeth Warren), a Midwestern centrist (probably Gretchen Whitmer), and someone who will excite the black community (probably Kamala Harris or Val Demings).
    Roger forever

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