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    Transcript: ABC News' George Stephanopoulos' exclusive interview with Trump
    By ABC News
    Jun 16, 2019, 7:58 PM ET

    Over the course of two days, ABC News' chief anchor George Stephanopoulos spent 30 hours with President Donald Trump, flying on Air Force One to Iowa, traveling in his armored vehicle called “The Beast,” greeting him in his West Wing residence, embedding in the Oval Office for a day of meetings, and sitting down for a one-on-one interview in the White House Rose Garden. This aired in a special edition of "20/20," "President Trump - 30 Hours," on Sunday, June 16, 2019.

    Below are the unedited transcripts of the president’s exclusive interview with ABC News from "The Beast" between events in Iowa, the walk to and in the Oval Office and the Rose Garden.


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    Supreme Court dismisses challenge to findings of racial gerrymandering in Virginia districts

    By Robert Barnes June 17 at 12:02 PM

    The Supreme Court dismissed the challenge to a lower court’s findings that some of Virginia’s legislative districts were racially gerrymandered, saying Monday that House Republicans did not have legal standing to challenge the decision.

    The decision could give an advantage to the state’s Democrats. All 140 seats in the legislature are on the ballot this fall, and the GOP holds two-seat majorities in both the House (51 to 49) and the Senate (21 to 19).

    Democrats have been hoping that a wave of successes in recent Virginia elections will propel them to control of the legislature for the first time since 1995.

    The party that controls the General Assembly in 2021 will oversee the next statewide re*districting effort, following next year’s census — potentially cementing an advantage in future elections.

    Primaries were held last week in the new districts.

    The case split the court. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote the majority opinion in the 5 to 4 case, saying that House Republican leaders could not challenge the court ruling because they did not represent the commonwealth.

    The state’s attorney general declined to continue the case, Ginsburg wrote.

    “The State of Virginia would rather stop than fight on,” she wrote. “One House of its bicameral legislature cannot alone continue the litigation against the will of its partners in the legislative process.”

    She was joined in an unusual alignment by Justices Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Neil M. Gorsuch.


    Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. dissented, saying he saw no support “for the proposition that Virginia law bars the House from defending, in its own right, the constitutionality of a districting plan.” He was joined by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justices Stephen G. Breyer and Brett M. Kavanaugh.

    Because the state did not draw a new map after the decision by the panel of judges in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, the judges had an outside expert draw a new map.

    It realigns a total of 26 House districts as it remedies the 11 under court order. Six Republican delegates would find themselves in districts with a majority of Democratic voters, according to an analysis by the nonpartisan Virginia Public Access Project.

    House Republicans pointed out that the political boundaries they drew won bipartisan approval in 2011. They noted that the plan was approved by the Justice Department under President Barack Obama.

    Mark Herring, the state attorney general, has argued that only his office has standing to represent the state in such a case, and it has opted not to appeal. The Trump administration filed a friend-of-the-court brief that essentially agrees with that position, saying that the House of Delegates as an institution has no inherent interest in the shape of its districts or who gets elected to represent them.

    Not surprisingly, Virginia Democrats and Republicans had opposite reactions.

    “Today’s Supreme Court ruling is a victory for democracy and voting rights in our Commonwealth,” Gov. Ralph Northam (D) said in a written statement. “When we corrected racially gerrymandered districts earlier this year, we righted a wrong — as I have always said, voters should choose their representatives, not the other way around. I am pleased that this fall, every Virginian, no matter who they are or where they live, will cast their ballots in fair and constitutional districts.”

    Adam Kincaid, executive director of the National Republican Redistricting Trust, said the decision will have effects beyond Virginia.

    “The broader implications of this holding will reverberate across the states, touching virtually every area of politically charged law,” he said in a statement. “The Court has sown to the winds of expediency and will reap a whirlwind of partisan mischief as state attorneys general pick and choose which laws they will defend and which they will disregard on behalf of those plaintiffs with which they are politically or ideologically aligned.”

    House Speaker Kirk Cox (R-Colonial Heights) said he was “disappointed” with the ruling and noted that it hinged on the question of the chamber’s standing rather than the merits of what he described in a written statement as a “constitutionally enacted redistricting plan.”

    He blamed the state’s attorney general for declining to defend the maps, which, he noted, had been passed in 2011 “with an overwhelming majority.”


    The Supreme Court has already considered the 2011 legislative map once. It told a lower court to consider whether some of the districts for the Virginia House of Delegates were racially gerrymandered, by grouping black voters together in a way that left white candidates able to prevail elsewhere. As a practical matter, such a result would benefit Republicans.

    The case is Virginia House of Delegates v. Bethune-Hill.

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    Re: The Run to the WH

    Fascinating to see which Justices were on which side. How often are Thomas and Alito on opposite sides?

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    Bullet points only. Full report and charts at the link.

    Monday, June 17, 2019
    Navigating the Medicare Debate
    The Public Demands Proposals That Clearly Address Both Coverage and Costs

    Welcome to NAVIGATOR — a project designed to better understand the American public’s views on issues of the day and help advocates, elected officials, and other interested parties understand the language, imagery and messaging needed to make and win key policy arguments. This edition features findings from a national online survey of 1,113 registered voters conducted May 31-June 3, 2019. 113 additional interviews were conducted among political independents with no partisan lean.

    Every month, we pick a few topics for exploration. The topics we select aren’t meant to cover every issue area facing the progressive community, but rather to give actionable advice on how to talk about key issue areas. We’ll be sharing our findings throughout the month, and in this volume we focus on:

    How are Americans feeling about the health care system, and what do progressive proponents of expanded Medicare need to consider? Two years after Republicans tried and failed to repeal the Affordable Care Act, health care is still a key issue for Americans. Democrats are more trusted than Republicans to solve our health care woes, and the public strongly supports protecting and expanding Medicare. But progressives must deal with questions about what proposals like Medicare for All really mean and explain how they will keep health care costs down.

    Americans trust Democrats to handle their top health care concerns.

    Costs drive concerns.

    Protecting and expanding Medicare is very popular – but the public lacks clarity about “Medicare for All.”

    The simple ideas of protecting and expanding Medicare are more popular than any branded program.

    Confusion: Medicare for… All who want it?

    And those different interpretations of “Medicare for All” have dramatic consequences on the program’s support.

    Americans see significant benefits to Medicare for All but progressives must take health care cost fears seriously and make their own cost reduction pitch to the public.

    Americans want guaranteed coverage.

    Concerns about Medicare for All center on costs.

    Progressives must address cost concerns in any health care proposals they push forward.

    https://navigatorresearch.org/naviga...dicare-debate/
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  5. #380

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    Our Orlando Sentinel endorsement for president in 2020: Not Donald Trump | Editorial

    Donald Trump is in Orlando to announce the kickoff of his re-election campaign.

    We’re here to announce our endorsement for president in 2020, or, at least, who we’re not endorsing: Donald Trump.

    Some readers will wonder how we could possibly eliminate a candidate so far before an election, and before knowing the identity of his opponent.

    Because there’s no point pretending we would ever recommend that readers vote for Trump.

    After 2˝ years we’ve seen enough.

    Enough of the chaos, the division, the schoolyard insults, the self-aggrandizement, the corruption, and especially the lies.

    So many lies — from white lies to whoppers — told out of ignorance, laziness, recklessness, expediency or opportunity.

    Trump’s capacity for lying isn’t the surprise here, though the frequency is.

    It’s the tolerance so many Americans have for it.

    There was a time when even a single lie — a phony college degree, a bogus work history — would doom a politician’s career.

    Not so for Trump, who claimed in 2017 that he lost the popular vote because millions of people voted illegally (they didn’t). In 2018 he said North Korea was no longer a nuclear threat (it is). And in 2019 he said windmills cause cancer (they don’t). Just last week he claimed the media fabricated unfavorable results from his campaign’s internal polling (it didn’t).

    Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 13, 2018
    According to a Washington Post database, the president has tallied more than 10,000 lies since he took office.

    Trump’s successful assault on truth is the great casualty of this presidency, followed closely by his war on decency.

    Trump insults political opponents and national heroes alike with middle-school taunts. He demonstrates no capacity for empathy or remorse. He misuses his office to punish opponents, as when he recently called for a boycott of AT&T to get even with his least favorite media outlet, CNN. He tears down institutions, once airily suggesting the U.S. should try having a leader for life as China now allows. He seems incapable of learning a lesson, telling an ABC interviewer last week — just two months after Robert Mueller’s report on election interference was released — that he would accept dirt on an opponent from Russia or China.

    I believe that if people stoped using or subscribing to @ATT, they would be forced to make big changes at @CNN, which is dying in the ratings anyway. It is so unfair with such bad, Fake News! Why wouldn’t they act. When the World watches @CNN, it gets a false picture of USA. Sad!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 3, 2019
    Trump has diminished our standing in the world. He reneges on deals, attacks allies and embraces enemies.

    This nation must never forget that humiliating public moment in Helsinki in 2018 when the president of the United States chose to accept Vladimir Putin’s denials of Russian interference in the 2016 election over the unanimous assessment of the American intelligence community.

    Such a betrayal by a U.S. president would have been the unforgivable political sin in normal times.

    As if that’s not enough, Trump declares his love for North Korea’s Kim Jong-un, a genuine villain who starves and enslaves his people and executes his enemies with antiaircraft guns and flamethrowers.

    But he wrote the president a “beautiful letter.” Flattery will get you everywhere with this president, and that’s dangerous.

    Domestically, the president’s signature issue — immigration — has moved in fits and starts. Happily, he abandoned pursuing an outright — and unconstitutional — ban on Muslims entering the U.S., opting instead to restrict travel for people from a handful of nations, most of them majority Muslim.

    He’s tried separating families, sending troops to the border and declaring a national emergency. For all of that, illegal border crossings are, as the president himself calls it, at crisis levels.

    He blames House Democrats because casting blame is Trump’s forte. But Republicans controlled the House and the Senate for two full years. That seemed like an ideal time to fix what the president believes ails our immigration laws.

    Even with Democrats now controlling the House, where is Trump’s much-touted deal-making mojo, an attribute he campaigned on?

    “But the economy!”

    Yes, the market has done well since Trump’s election.

    The S&P 500 was up about 21% between Trump’s inauguration and May 31 of his third year in office. Under President Obama, it was up about 56% in that same period.

    Unemployment is headed down, as it was during seven straight years under Obama.

    Wages are up, and that’s a welcome change. But GDP increases so far are no better than some periods under Obama. Deficit spending under Obama was far too high, in part because of the stimulus needed to dig out of the Great Recession. Under Trump, it’s still headed in the wrong direction, once again pushing $1 trillion even though the economy is healthy.

    Trump seems to care nothing about the deficit and the national debt, which once breathed life into the Tea Party.

    Through all of this, Trump’s base remains loyal. Sadly, the truest words Trump might ever have spoken was when he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose his supporters.

    This non-endorsement isn’t defaulting to whomever the Democrats choose. This newspaper has a history of presidential appointments favoring Republicans starting in the mid-20th century. Except for Lyndon Johnson in 1964, the Sentinel backed Republican presidential nominees from 1952 through 2004, when we recommended John Kerry over another four years of George W. Bush.

    As recently as 2012 we recommended Republican Mitt Romney because of what seemed at the time to be Obama’s failure to adequately manage the nation’s finances.

    If — however unlikely — a Republican like Romney, now a senator from Utah, or former Ohio Gov. John Kasich successfully primaried the president, we would eagerly give them a look. Same if an independent candidate mounted a legitimate campaign.

    We’d even consider backing Trump if, say, he found the proverbial cure for cancer or — about as likely — changed the essence of who he is (he won’t).

    The nation must endure another 1˝ years of Trump. But it needn’t suffer another four beyond that.

    We can do better. We have to do better.

    https://www.orlandosentinel.com/opin...nui-story.html
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    No mention of Charlottesville?

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    Apparently his chat with George Stephanopoulos was lowly rated.
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    More Zac Petkanas Retweeted Alex Seitz-Wald
    Ohhh so THIS is why Bernie is lying about Warren.

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    The cat is out of the bag. The corporate wing of the Democratic Party is publicly "anybody but Bernie." They know our progressive agenda of Medicare for All, breaking up big banks, taking on drug companies and raising wages is the real threat to the billionaire class. https://twitter.com/politico/status/1141281982418247682

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    Warren pulls ahead of Sanders in new Monmouth national poll:

    - Biden 32% (-1 since May)
    - Warren 15% (+5 over May, +9% over April)
    - Sanders 14% (-1 since May)
    - Harris 8% (-3)
    - Buttigieg 5% (-1)
    - O’Rourke 3% (-1)

    Rest ≤ 2%
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    The cat is out of the bag. The corporate wing of the Democratic Party is publicly "anybody but Bernie." They know our progressive agenda of Medicare for All, breaking up big banks, taking on drug companies and raising wages is the real threat to the billionaire class. https://twitter.com/politico/status/1141281982418247682
    To me, a lot of Bernie supporters are almost as bad as Trump supporters in their fanatical belief that Bernie a savior (like Trump has been christened the savior by his supporters) - the only one on the Democratic side; therefore, anyone else for the Democratic nomination is a false prophet worshiping at the foot of the golden calf, and any one supporting another candidate a member of a cabal designed to prevent Bernie from getting the nomination. To them, there is no big tent; instead, it is "I'll pack up my toys and go home" type mentality. It is accept our orthodoxy completely or you are branded a heretic, just as any Republican who disagrees with Trump is branded on the Republican side. This attitude is what will throw the election to Trump if it cannot be overcome, and it worries me greatly.
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    There's been a lot of pushback against Sanders tactics this go around. I think that's why he's now third, falling fast and flailinag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff in TX View Post
    To me, a lot of Bernie supporters are almost as bad as Trump supporters in their fanatical belief that Bernie a savior (like Trump has been christened the savior by his supporters) - the only one on the Democratic side; therefore, anyone else for the Democratic nomination is a false prophet worshiping at the foot of the golden calf, and any one supporting another candidate a member of a cabal designed to prevent Bernie from getting the nomination. To them, there is no big tent; instead, it is "I'll pack up my toys and go home" type mentality. It is accept our orthodoxy completely or you are branded a heretic, just as any Republican who disagrees with Trump is branded on the Republican side. This attitude is what will throw the election to Trump if it cannot be overcome, and it worries me greatly.
    Ah, memories of 2016...

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    Re: The Run to the WH

    And the Russians and conservatives are eagerly planting those seeds all over social media now.

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    There are no pills for stupidity...
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    Re: The Run to the WH

    On a separate issue, no mention here about Joe Biden's comments of the past few days about working with racist Senators of the past and finding common ground to get legislation passed. He is being lambasted. Yes, he is tone deaf. But, I don't want his imperfections blown so far out of proportion, which is clearly the goal, that he is unelectable if he wins the nomination. Overall, he's a good guy with a solid enough record that I believe he will move us forward, despite attempts to paint him as a move backwards. Remember, he was the guy who forced Obama to declare support for same-sex marriage.

    I don't know who I support in the primary yet, but he is up there. I like him, Harris, Mayor Pete, and even Warren (she is running a good campaign.) I still think Trump's people want Warren because they think she is the easiest to attack, and to many, she is the least likeable. I mean, I'm first warming up to her now.

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    Politics is not what the GOP has made it into. Politics has always been about compromise - you scratch my back I'll scratch yours. I for one have no issues with what Biden said. I'd be willing to bet many of the people "outraged" about it are Bernie bro's or GOP paid. I think Kurt Eichenwald put it best:

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    Watching the absurd "Biden praised segregationists" when he was talking about how even the people most virulently opposed to each other could get things done, tells me a few things:

    1. Some are idiots.
    2. Russians are here.
    3. Words mean what social media twists them to mean.

    1.The worst thing about social media culture is that people just fundamentally don't read anymore. They think they know everything, because they swallow it in 260 character capsules. Which is why, if Ted Kennedy - the liberal lion - was still alive, liberals would condemn him...

    2...same with Walter Mondale. Same with FDR. You know how I know this? Both men were friends with James O. Eastland, rancid segregationist. Why were they friends? Because they worked together where they could agree, and fought where they couldn't. They knew that....

    3...Eastland represented a critical bloc. All modern liberals see is Eastland as a racist. Did you know he was the key vote in taking on Nixon? Nixon refused to turn over documents to Jaworski. Eastland was the key vote on Judiciary to go after that, and protect Jaworski.....

    4...FDR needed Eastland on major legislation, so worked with him to bring him in, while letting Eastland attack FDR so he could stay in office. Then, let's go to Kennedy. This is an old paper I read awhile back. Read these graphs....



    5...Now, was Eastland a pig? Yup. Did the liberal wing of the democratic party need to work with him to get things done? Yup.

    THAT is what Biden is talking about in his statement about Eastland et. al. Getting things done. Government used to do it. Too many of you take for....

    6...granted how much has been accomplished, not denying how far we need to go. Eastland was key on some campaign finance stuff, on jobs bills, etc. Should no one have worked with him? Should we only care about poking him in the eye? Or should we have remembered....

    7...that governance is not politics, and politics is not a team sport. Yes, we need to compromise where we can. And we need to fight where we cant. Worry about governance. No "sticking it to the cons."

    And will the GOP work together? Probably not. The problem that....

    8...Obama had was holding onto the faith for too long that the GOP was not a bunch of thugs. But you have to have hope for that - the bottom line is, if Eastland could find common ground with Kennedy, McConnell should be able to find common ground with anyone.
    Of course....

    9...he won't. McConnell is dead set on destroying the constitution. But before the pin is pulled on the grenade, a hand should be held out. And if the hand is bitten, then recognize he is still a mad dog and do what can be done without them.

    Now, how many people are going....

    10...to read this and accuse me of celebrating segregationists? And how many of those cannot remember a time when government actually *did things.* It happened, even in my lifetime. And it came about by the best working with the odious.....

    11...and if that can't happen again, then American governance has become politics, and politics has become a contact sport, and all of you who support "policies" - forget them. In that world, it's all about notches on the belt, not about getting things done to help people.
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