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    Re: Tennis Random, Random 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by MeganFernandez View Post
    I dont get too bent out of shape about pronunciations. I figure most people are trying their best and arent acting out of disregard.
    I don't think that's true when it comes to more than half the commentators



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    Re: Tennis Random, Random 2.0

    ATP used to have it on each player's page, I think? Sometimes it was definitely very incorrect and not how I heard players say it themselves.


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    Per the links provided by JazzNU......That page from the WTA media guide is actually very helpful. I looked through the ATP media guide and saw no help with pronunciations at all.

    That audio of the pronunciation from Tennis Now.....that is almost exactly what I was recommending, if it were easy to find all players that way.
    Maybe I'm missing something, but by going to Tennis Now, either directly or on YouTube, I could find several names pronounced, but not all. I even put names into their search, and the pronunciation option was not coming up. Still, we are finding that there are resources, and there are likely many more. If anyone has seen a list of the names that are pronounced by Tennis Now, or alternatively a place on their website where you can ask for pronunciations, I'd love to see it.

    It would be wonderful if this was easy to find for all players, and maybe it is if we knew how. Still, it is pretty clear that the commentators need to do a little of this looking as well. It is clear many of them have not read page 34 of the WTA media guide, for instance, and that should take them almost no effort.

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    Re: Tennis Random, Random 2.0

    Now if we can only stop the commentators from saying Raf-ee-el. It infuriates me every time!


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    Re: Tennis Random, Random 2.0

    Since my suggestion to develop a place for proper pronunciations of names got some traction among the group, I have another suggestion:

    The ATP needs to make shirts optional.

    Anyone who has seen the end of one of Tiafoe's matches knows exactly why this recommendation came up.

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    John Tomic is about to sue Lleyton Hewitt for a cash grab--he is stating that Bernard has been "traumatized" since 2010 because of an alleged incident that happened in a hotel room

    http://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/i...lleyton-hewitt
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    Dear Lord. I think the favoritism by Lleyton is a really interesting story that has some potential merit and needs to be looked into, but this? That article says this is stemming from something 9 YEARS AGO. NINE! This sounds so petty and minor I'm surprised the statute of limitations hasn't lapsed.

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    Re: Tennis Random, Random 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by GlennHarman View Post
    Since my suggestion to develop a place for proper pronunciations of names got some traction among the group, I have another suggestion:

    The ATP needs to make shirts optional.

    Anyone who has seen the end of one of Tiafoe's matches knows exactly why this recommendation came up.

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    Re: Tennis Random, Random 2.0

    Quote Originally Posted by GlennHarman View Post
    Since my suggestion to develop a place for proper pronunciations of names got some traction among the group, I have another suggestion:

    The ATP needs to make shirts optional.

    Anyone who has seen the end of one of Tiafoe's matches knows exactly why this recommendation came up.

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    If we do that then WTA players should be encouraged to wear skirts the length Giorgi's
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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzNU View Post
    Dear Lord. I think the favoritism by Lleyton is a really interesting story that has some potential merit and needs to be looked into, but this? That article says this is stemming from something 9 YEARS AGO. NINE! This sounds so petty and minor I'm surprised the statute of limitations hasn't lapsed.
    This is being alleged by John Tomic, a man who once beat Bernard's practice partner into unconsciousness, then left him on a public street.

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    Dan Evans blasts 'ludicrous' Jamie Murray comments that Britain's double players are under-appreciated
    Dan Evans hit out at Jamie Murray's comments over Britain's doubles players
    Murray suggested Britain's doubles players and coach are under-appreciated
    Evans blasted Murray's call for coach Louis Cayer to be performance director

    By MIKE DICKSON FOR THE DAILY MAIL

    Dan Evans has launched a withering response to suggestions by Jamie Murray that Britain's doubles players and their main coach are under-appreciated.

    The British No 3 singles is incensed by the idea that doubles specialists should be treated with similar respect to those who play their trade solo.

    The outspoken Midlander also gave a stinging riposte to Murray's call for his coach Louis Cayer to be made performance director or elevated to a similar position at the Lawn Tennis Association.

    'Who exactly has Louis Cayer ever coached apart from doubles players? Why would British tennis allow him to take charge? It's a ludicrous comment,' said Evans.

    'Jamie thinks we should be celebrating six pairs inside the main draw of a Grand Slam? So we are celebrating people who didn't make it at singles and people who didn't have the attitude to work hard enough to make it in the singles game.

    'I like the doubles guys and they've done well, but to think we should celebrate this so the kids growing up look up to this as a huge achievement is completely wrong. Kids want to be in the second round of main draw singles events not doubles.

    'We are the only country in the world to have a doubles coach travelling round paid for by the federation at the Grand Slams, they also receive medical and sports science help so saying they aren't appreciated simply isn't correct.'

    What appears to have drawn Evans' ire are Murray's comment about the relative success of Britain's male doubles players. Six made the second round of the Australian Open, and there are currently seven ranked 55 or better on the ATP listings.

    'You've got three people in the second round but we've got I think six different doubles teams in the second round and I think that's important,' the 32 year-old Scot had said.

    'I think they (the Lawn Tennis Association) should celebrate more the success of the doubles because that's the thing they've clearly got to be most proud about. (We've got) the most in terms of numbers. But that wouldn't be talked about unless I said something.'

    The mild mannered Murray's intention may have been to talk doubles up rather than run singles down, but the row will cause a headache for Davis Cup captain Leon Smith.

    In the next 12 months he has two major team competitions to prepare for, the revamped Davis Cup and the new ATP Cup. Given Evans' trajectory and the expected absence of Andy Murray, both he and Jamie will be in the squad together.

    It has already been an unusually fractious week in British tennis, ever since Andy Murray asserted that the LTA have failed to build on his legacy.

    Evans won four matches at the Australian Open to make the second-round proper before losing to Roger Federer in three tight sets. Since coming back from his cocaine ban in late April has been battling in tournaments large and small to rebuild his ranking.

    He clearly disagrees with Murray about the rightful place of doubles, and also suspects that the LTA are focusing on the two-player code to try and mitigate for its failure to manufacture any sort of consistent production line of successful singles players.

    The status of doubles in modern tennis is difficult to assess precisely. Undoubtedly popular with fans and recreational players, it does require specialist skills, but the fact is that the best singles players tend not to participate with much regularity, and many of the top experts are into their mid-30s or later.

    Prize money at tournaments generally reflects this and at Wimbledon, for example, the respective singles events offers more than six times the amount of prize money than is given to those in the doubles.

    Certainly in most of the successful tennis playing countries its importance is placed way below the more cut throat and physically demanding sphere of singles, and Evans will be far from alone in the international locker room from regarding singles as the gold standard.

    As for Cayer in particular, he plies his trade in a very niche area but there is little question that he is an outstanding doubles specialist coach, who Murray credits for taking his career to the heights he has enjoyed. His track record is not, however, the same in singles.

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