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    Re: Tennis Random, Random 2.0

    Of course, none of this will be a surprise to anyone here. Still, I wanted to run the numbers for myself to see just how lopsided the numbers were.

    Starting with Federer's win at WImbledon in 2003, these are the winners in men's singles at major tournaments.

    Federer - 20
    Nadal -18
    Djokovic - 16
    Murray - 3
    Wawrinka - 3
    Roddick - 1
    Gaudio - 1
    Safin - 1
    del Potro - 1
    Cilic - 1

    So that's 54/65 (83%) won by the big three. Only two other players have won more than one in that span, and only 10 players total have won a singles title!

    The big three have won the last eleven singles titles, but that's only tied for the second longest streak. They won 18 in a row beginning with French Open in 2005 (in fact, Federer and Nadal won 11 between them from that point).

    I'm pretty confident to say we'll never see another era of such concentrated winners again.



    Just as a comparison, I did the same count for women's champions, except starting at the 2000 Australian Open.

    Serena - 22
    Venus -7
    Henin -7
    Sharapova - 5
    Clijsters -4
    Capriati - 3
    Kerber -3
    8 tied with - 2
    12 tied with - 1

    A totally different distribution of champions. The obvious difference is that there's only one double-digit winner. The championships are more spread out, with another 6 winning three or more, and 15 multiple-major winners overall.

    While I've included three more years of tournaments in the women's list, that doesn't at all explain the longer list of winners. If I used the same time period as for the men, we'd lose Capriati and a couple of the one-time champions, but the Williams sisters won 8 of the 14 tournaments we dropped, so that would just make the distribution of winners even more spread out.

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    José Morgado
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    Dodig/Chan, the first team since 1986 to win Roland Garros/Wimbledon mixed back to back.
    I'm surprised it's been that long, especially since Hingis/Paes were tearing up the mixed circuit for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martini4me View Post
    Safin - 1
    Not that it changes anything in your analysis, but Marat won 2 Slams (USO 2000 and AO 2005)

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    This is a really good thread re the BJK/Serena discussion. It is why this is the best site for thoughtful posts about tennis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sokoll View Post
    Not that it changes anything in your analysis, but Marat won 2 Slams (USO 2000 and AO 2005)
    ATP was from 2003
    WTA was from 2000
    2017 & 2018 Australian Open Champions

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick View Post
    ATP was from 2003
    WTA was from 2000
    Oh, my bet, I confused the years

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    Re: Tennis Random, Random 2.0



    On the Nike campus in Portland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ2004 View Post


    On the Nike campus in Portland.
    Too bad, Adidas


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    Anna Tatishvili
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    I don't forsee them doing that for Bernie
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    Tennis: Tomic's appeal against fine rejected, receives stinging rebuke

    (Reuters) - Australian Bernard Tomic’s appeal to overturn a fine for not playing to “required professional standards” at Wimbledon earlier this month has been denied in a stinging rebuke by the Grand Slam board.

    Tomic lost his first round match 6-2 6-1 6-4 to France’s Jo-Wilfried Tsonga at Wimbledon and was fined his entire winnings of 45,000 pounds ($56,241) after organizers ruled he had put in minimal effort in the 58-minute defeat.

    The 26-year-old Tomic appealed the decision, citing the fact he was unwell before the match, while Tsonga added that he felt his victory had been devalued.

    The board, however, refused to overturn their original decision and heavily criticized Tomic’s attitude to tennis.

    “A review of your historical record of misconduct at Grand Slams, never mind elsewhere, provides little justification for an adjustment,” board director Bill Babcock wrote in the decision letter that was published by the New York Times.

    “In your case, Bernard, I am sure you would agree there is no historical evidence to give comfort to the theory that you can reform your behaviour.”

    Babcock added that if Tomic goes without a sanction in his next eight Grand Slam events then he would be refunded 25 percent of the fine.

    “Admittedly, I am sceptical that you can achieve this reform of Grand Slam on-court behaviour,” Babcock added. “Many others, no doubt, would be even more than just sceptical.

    “Good luck and I hope to be pleasantly surprised in the future by your successful reform.”

    Tomic, however, said he would appeal the decision further.

    “I don’t care about this 25 percent; I care about the right thing for players in the future,” he told the newspaper.

    This year’s tournament was not the first time Tomic has run afoul of tennis officialdom.

    He was nicknamed ‘Tomic the Tank Engine’ after accusations he ‘tanked’ — or failed to try his best — in a loss to Andy Roddick at the 2012 U.S. Open.

    Tomic also said after his first round loss at Wimbledon in 2017 that he was ‘bored’ during the match.

    He has also been periodically suspended from Australia’s Davis Cup team over the last five years for what Tennis Australia have called “ongoing disrespect”.

    ($1 = 0.8001 pounds)

    Writing by Greg Stutchbury in Wellington; Editing by Sudipto Ganguly


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    So yesterday, got a not so nice message from a dude. I looked thru his profile, saw his sister tagged in a pic. Proceeded to fwd it to his sis. Here’s what we got:





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  13. #3433

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    Loved the Tomic article.
    Meet again we do, old foe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drop-shot View Post
    Loved the Tomic article.
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    Re: Tennis Random, Random 2.0

    I’m surprised by how touching I found Bolletieri’s introduction of Mary Pierce at the ITHOF. Her speech needed an editor, but did contain a number of nice moments.

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