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    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Drew Hammill @Drew_Hammill

    The United States Congress is a co-equal branch of government in our system of checks and balances. The Congress has a constitutional responsibility to conduct oversight in the war zone where our men and women in uniform are risking their lives every day.

    After President Trump revoked the use of military aircraft to travel to Afghanistan, the delegation was prepared to fly commercially to proceed with this vital trip to meet with our commanders and troops on the front lines.

    In the middle of the night, State Dept's Diplomatic Security Service provided an updated threat assessment detailing that the President announcing this sensitive travel had significantly increased danger to the delegation & to troops, security, & other officials supporting trip.

    This morning, we learned that the Administration had leaked the commercial travel plans as well.


    In light of the grave threats caused by the President’s action, the delegation has decided to postpone the trip so as not to further endanger our troops and security personnel, or the other travelers on the flights.

    Whether here or abroad, the Speaker always thanks our troops, diplomats and intelligence community for their heroism & service. The Speaker commends her colleagues on the delegation, who personally & officially have dedicated their lives to protect & defend the American people.


    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...056399872.html
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




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    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    It seems another fresh hell has opened up this morning. To be honest I don't have the strength today...
    I would be more comfortable if someplace other than Buzzfeed had this story.

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    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Quote Originally Posted by shtexas View Post
    I would be more comfortable if someplace other than Buzzfeed had this story.
    Or maybe I should say less comfortable.

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    I'm okay with Buzzfeed, just need to look closer at what they've become to me, rather than where they started, which was how I still viewed the name until a year or so ago. Now that they do serious news and are committed to investigative journalism, they really are legit and have broken a good deal of stories. I personally think they could do with a name change in furtherance of that seriousness, but no one asked me.

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    Peter Sterne
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    There are 3 possibilities with the BuzzFeed story:

    - the story accurately reflects what Cohen told federal prosecutors in another office (e.g. SDNY) but not SCO

    - the story has minor inconsistencies with what Cohen told SCO

    - the story’s central claims are substantively wrong

    Also, because this is only too true. So, so leaky.


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    Keep in mind that the BF story is scoped just like Cohen's plea filings were scoped, which went thru SDNY, and SDNY is famously leaky, suggesting sources are at SDNY and not SCO.

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    David Frum
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    Here's Don Jr testifying to the Senate Judiciary Committee that Trump Tower Moscow negotiations faded away at end of 2014

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    If you're not up for reading, this conversation occurred on Meet the Press, follow the link to watch the clip.


    Giuliani: Discussions on Trump Tower in Moscow were 'active' throughout 2016 election

    Senate Intelligence Committee's top Democrat says "remarkable" shifting timeline is cause for more investigation.

    By Ben Kamisar
    WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani said Sunday that plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow remained an “active proposal” as late as November of 2016, leaving open the possibility that Trump’s family-led company continued to pursue the business deal up until the presidential election, months later than previously known.

    Appearing on NBC's “Meet the Press,” Giuliani said the president has told him he can “remember having conversations” with his former lawyer, Michael Cohen, about the project well into 2016. Cohen has pleaded guilty to lying to Congress about the timeline of his involvement in that proposal, admitting that he worked on it through June of 2016 after initially saying it ended at the beginning of that year.

    “It's our understanding that they went on throughout 2016," Giuliani said of the discussions, adding that there "weren't a lot of them, but there were conversations. Can't be sure of the exact date."

    "Probably could be up to as far as October, November — our answers cover until the election," he said, referring to written questions Trump and his lawyers have answered from special counsel Robert Mueller's office. "So anytime during that period they could've talked about it. But the president's recollection of it is that the thing had petered out quite a bit.”

    "I would say Michael Cohen would have a much better recollection of it than the president," Giuliani added. "It was much more important to him. That was his sole mission. The president was running for president of the United States. So you have to expect there's not going to be a great deal of concentration on a project that never went anywhere."

    Also appearing on "Meet the Press," Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., said that the idea that negotiations could have continued into November was “big news.”

    “That is news to me, and that is big news. Why, two years after the fact, are we just learning this fact now when there’s been this much inquiry?” asked Warner, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    “I would think most voters — Democrat, Republican, independent, you name it — that knowing that the Republican nominee was actively trying to do business in Moscow, that the Republican nominee at least at one point had offered, if he built this building, Vladimir Putin, a free-penthouse apartment, and if those negotiations were ongoing up until the election, I think that’s a relevant fact for voters to know," Warner said. "And I think it’s remarkable we are two years after the fact and just discovering it today.”

    The Moscow tower project is part of separate investigations by the special counsel and lawmakers into links between Trump’s campaign and Russia's interference in the 2016 election.

    Cohen has said he lied about the length of his involvement in the process in order to be consistent with Trump’s own public pronouncements that he wasn’t involved in business dealings with Russia.

    The questions about Cohen’s motives were also caught up in a disputed story published by BuzzFeed that claimed Trump personally directed Cohen to lie to Congress.

    That accusation prompted Democrats to immediately sound alarms, with some calling for impeachment proceedings.

    But one day after the story’s publication, special counsel spokesman Peter Carr said in a statement that "BuzzFeed's description of specific statements to the Special Counsel's Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony are not accurate." BuzzFeed has said it stands by the story.

    On Sunday, Giuliani said he was “100 percent certain” that Trump never asked Cohen to lie to Congress.

    “The Justice Department and the special counsel’s office said that the story was inaccurate. And the inaccuracy is that there’s no evidence that the president told him to lie,” he added.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...ection-n960701

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