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  1. #3856

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    If he's refusing to do his job why should he continue living in the WH?
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  2. #3857

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Joyce Alene
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    @JoyceWhiteVance

    My (likely unpopular) view: Pelosi is handing Trump masterfully, signaling to anyone listening there is a move towards impeachment (President is engaged in a “cover up”) w/out giving him a sound bite w/the word impeachment he can weaponize. Even more unpopular view: patience.

    Teri Kanefield
    ‏@Teri_Kanefield

    (short thread) Consider this possibility: Trump wants to be impeached.

    He wants the spectacle. He wants the crisis. He thrives on spectacle and crisis.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/u...i-schumer.html

    Earlier in the month, I argued that Pelosi was playing Trump, trying to make him look silly.

    1/ I said she was playing the game, and playing it right.
    https://twitter.com/Teri_Kanefield/s...24771374354432 … …

    Other than welcoming the spectacle and crisis, why would Trump want to be impeached?

    He gets to be the victim!

    2/ Also he knows that the Senate will acquit, so he wants to get the whole thing over with. Once he's acquitted, he can declare himself exonerated.

    If Congress keeps trying to get his taxes and other docs, he'll accuse them of going after him repeatedly, even after they lose.

    3/ Impeachment will happen, people. But this isn't a sprint. You don't rush to a jury before you have the evidence.
    Congress needs to be ready.

    I agree with what @JoyceWhiteVance said today
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  3. #3858

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    New York legislature approves bill that would allow Congress to access Trump’s state tax records

    By Washington Post Staff May 22 at 1:43 PM

    The legislation, which gives the state the authority to hand over copies of President Trump’s state returns if congressional tax committees request them, now heads to Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D), who has supported the effort.

    It’s unclear whether House Democrats will request the state records, after a spokesman for the House Ways and Means Committee said the state documents were not relevant to the committee’s investigation.

    This is a developing story. It will be updated.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.223d0b4eebda

    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  4. #3859

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    Judge says Deutsche Bank, Capital One can give Trump financial records to House Democrats
    PUBLISHED MOMENTS AGO
    Dan Mangan
    Kevin Breuninger

    KEY POINTS
    Lawyers for ...Donald Trump and his three oldest children appeared in New York federal court to challenge subpoenas for information about the Trumps’ businesses from Deutsche Bank and Capital One Financial Corp.

    The hearing came days after another federal judge, in Washington, ruled that Trump’s accounting firm, Mazars, had to comply with a subpoean for the president’s financial records.

    Trump has said he is “fighting all the subpoeans” issued by the Democratic-led House.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/22/judg...democrats.html
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  5. #3860

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Josh Dawsey
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    @jdawsey1

    After Trump abruptly left legislative leaders meeting today, Kellyanne Conway asked Pelosi if she wanted to respond to what Trump had said. "I'll respond to the president, not staff," Pelosi said. "Wow, that's really pro-woman of you," Kellyanne Conway said back, per aides.
    Someone didn't pay attention in Civics Class. The Speaker is third in line to the Presidency. She doesn't deal with "staff" on an equal level.
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  6. #3861

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    A summary of Judge Ramos ruling. I'm sure Rachel and/or Ari will read more extensive excerpts.

    Adam Klasfeld
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    @KlasfeldReports

    Context for those unfamiliar with judicial rulings:

    Ramos is describing the various grounds for challenge. The argument that Trump, his family and his business entities would face irreparable harm persuaded him, the notion that it violated the RFPA did not. Devil in the details.

    Ramos says that the "power to investigate should not be confused with the powers of law enforcement."

    Ramos read this citation: "Without the power to investigate... Congress could be seriously handicapped in its efforts to exercise its constitutional function wisely and effectively." https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/349/155



    Ramos: Plaintiffs are unlikely to succeed on their constitutional claims.

    Now back to the ruling.

    Ramos: The Committees' subpoenas serve a legitimate legislative purpose.
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  7. #3862

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
    SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
    DONALD J. TRUMP; DONALD J. TRUMP, JR.; ERIC
    TRUMP; IVANKA TRUMP; THE DONALD J. TRUMP
    REVOCABLE TRUST; THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION,
    INC.; TRUMP ORGANIZATION LLC; DJT HOLDINGS
    LLC; DJT HOLDINGS MANAGING MEMBER LLC;
    TRUMP ACQUISITION LLC; and TRUMP
    ACQUISITION, CORP.,
    Plaintiffs,
    – against –
    DEUTSCHE BANK AG and CAPITAL ONE FINANCIAL
    CORP.,
    Defendants,
    – and –
    COMMITTEE ON FINANCIAL SERVICES OF THE U.S.
    HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES and PERMANENT
    SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE
    OF THE
    U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
    Intervenor-Defendants.

    Ramos, D.J.:
    For the reasons set forth on the record in today’s hearing, Plaintiffs’ motion for a
    preliminary injunction is DENIED, Plaintiffs’ motion for a stay pending appeal is DENIED, and
    the Committees’ application for consolidation is DENIED. The Clerk of Court is respectfully
    directed to terminate the motion, Doc. 26.
    It is SO ORDERED.
    Dated: May 22, 2019
    New York, New York

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/doc...Injunction.pdf
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  8. #3863

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Justice Department and House intelligence panel strike deal for Mueller materials

    by Karoun Demirjian May 22 at 1:20 PM

    The House Intelligence Committee will not enforce a subpoena against Attorney General William P. Barr as planned Wednesday, after the Justice Department agreed at the 11th hour to produce the redacted material and underlying information from the special counsel’s report that the panel sought, albeit more slowly than it wanted.

    Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), the committee’s chairman, announced the deal in a statement Wednesday morning.,He warned that the subpoena “will remain in effect and will be enforced should the Department fail to comply with the full document request.”

    Schiff added that he expects the “initial production” of providing the committee with 12 categories of counterintelligence and foreign intelligence material from special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s probe of election interference by Russia would “be completed by the end of next week.”

    The deal is a rare instance of detente between House Democrats and Justice Department leaders, who remain bitterly at odds over the administration’s resistance to congressional requests for documents and witnesses. But just hours the agreement was announced, President Trump declared that he would not work with congressional Democrats on any legislative ventures so long as investigations of his campaign, finances and foreign ties continue.

    Trump made the announcement during a news conference at the White House in response to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) accusation Wednesday morning that Trump was “engaged in a coverup” — something Trump vehemently denied.

    It is not clear if the president’s declaration jeopardizes the deal the House Intelligence Committee struck with the Justice Department; a spokesman for Schiff did not immediately return a request for comment on that matter.

    In a letter Tuesday to Schiff, Assistant Attorney General Stephen E. Boyd wrote that “the Department is willing to move forward with efforts to accommodate the Committee’s legitimate interests” to view the items it requested.,But he argued that the Justice Department would need more time to produce them. Boyd made the counteroffer contingent on the committee’s promise “that it will not pursue any vote on an ‘enforcement action,’ either on May 22, or while such good-faith accommodation measures continue.”

    “To be clear should the Committee take the precipitous and unnecessary action of recommending a contempt finding or other enforcement action against the attorney general, then the Department will not likely be able to continue to work with the Committee to accommodate its interest in these materials,” Boyd wrote.

    Holding off on the subpoena puts Schiff’s committee somewhat at odds with the rest of the House Democratic conference, where members have been agitating for impeachment proceedings against the president as other panels’ efforts to secure materials and witnesses are met with recalcitrance from the administration.


    (...)

    Both the House Intelligence and Judiciary committees have been making the case to Barr that they should be able to view the full contents of Mueller’s report, plus certain underlying materials. Barr has argued that it would be illegal for him to deliver the full redacted materials to the Judiciary Committee as requested, because it would require releasing grand jury information that cannot be disclosed without a court order. He has rejected House Democrats’ entreaties to join them in making an appeal to a judge to release those materials.

    But Schiff made his case for seeing the same materials on the grounds that the Mueller report deals with counterintelligence matters — and the Intelligence Committee has a legal right to view materials pertaining to counterintelligence, whether they originated with a grand jury or not. Rep. Devin Nunes (Calif.), the committee’s top Republican, had joined Schiff in letters to Barr making the case for such access, although he did not sign on to the eventual subpoena that Schiff issued earlier this month.

    “The Department has repeatedly acknowledged the Committee’s legitimate oversight interest in these materials,” Schiff said in a statement Wednesday. “I look forward to, and expect, continued compliance by the Department so we can do our vital oversight work.”


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.0e2088e74076
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  9. #3864

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Someone didn't pay attention in Civics Class. The Speaker is third in line to the Presidency. She doesn't deal with "staff" on an equal level.
    I will say Nancy knows how to show some one the bird in a diplomatic fashion. Talk about a classic dismissal.
    "And for my next fearless prediction..."

  10. #3865

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    I know I don't have to point this out to anyone here. But to the millions who still believe this idiot, shouldn't it be occurring to them about now that someone who goes to this much trouble to keep his financial records from being seen by anyone else must have something really incriminating to hide? I continue to be incredulous every day of this mess called a presidency that anyone at all still respects him.

  11. #3866

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    L Ron Hubbard. Jim Jones. David Koresh. Charles Manson. Marshall Applewhite.
    Now add Donald Trump and you can understand.
    Last edited by ponchi101; Today at 09:35 AM.
    Starry starry night

  12. #3867

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Tom Winter
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    @Tom_Winter

    BREAKING / NBC NEWS: Bank CEO Stephen Calk has been indicted by a federal grand jury and charged in connection with a plan to exchange $16 million in loans to Paul Manafort for his help in getting Caulk a Trump administration position.

    NBC News: A spokesperson for the FBI confirms to @valiquettejoe that Calk surrendered to the FBI earlier this morning in New York.

    The case is being prosecuted by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York




    I thought things were done and dusted?
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  13. #3868

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

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    �� ArleBear
    ‏@ArleBear

    “Stephen Calk received a $2 million investment from his business partner Howard Lorber in 2014. Calk & Lorber later served on the Trump campaign's economic advisory council.”

    Craig Unger
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    @craigunger
    Jan 31

    1/Fascinating that "blocked #" phone call circa 2016 Trump Tower meeting went to real estate developer Howard Lorber who was much more than just a family friend. In '96, when Trump went to RU to try to develop Trump Tower in Moscow, Lorber came w his partner Bennett LeBow.Craig Unger added,
    John Santucci
    Verified account

    @Santucci
    The calls to blocked numbers, which came on June 6, and after it on June 9, were between Trump Jr.’s cell phone and two family friends -- NASCAR CEO Brian France and real estate developer Howard Lorber, according to the sources http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/block...ry?id=60766720

    3/ In effort to develop Trump Tower Moscow, they were shown around by Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov who was also close to #Mogilevich & Vyacheslav Ivankov(below), a murderous mobsters who happened to be a Trump Tower resident on 5th Ave and a regular at Trump's Taj Mahal.

    6/So in June 2016, Emin sets up infamous Trump Tower meeting w Don, Jr., Jared, Manafort and the Russians in which Russians, many w ties to Russian Mafia, clearly want team Trump to promise that sanctions will be lifted. Lorber is the new figure in this. What is his real role?
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




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