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    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Michael Marshall Smith
    @ememess

    Nancy Pelosi is at her brother's funeral. That's why Gaetz and crew chose this day to commit a Federal crime in an attempt to block a lawful deposition — despite the fact that 46 Republican representatives are perfectly free to attend it...
    There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.

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  2. #4382

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Mieke Eoyang @MiekeEoyang

    A few words on why Gaetz stunt to storm the SCIF to disrupt Laura Cooper's deposition is a VERY serious national security problem.

    Note, I worked in that SCIF for HPSCI and handled cybersecurity issues while there.

    Aside from disrupting the testimony of a DoD official shedding light on the President's attempts to extort a sham investigation into the child of his most feared political rival by withholding military aid that Congress gave to resist a Russian invasion...

    Storming the SCIF without respecting the security protocols that require people to leave their electronic devices *outside* the space, is actually compromising our national security.

    First, the SCIF itself is a secure facility designed to prevent electronic eavesdropping so members of Congress can receive highly classified information about how the nation collects information on its adversaries, and on *very* sensitive intelligence operations.

    Foreign adversaries are constantly trying to figure out what goes on inside those rooms to figure out what the US knows about them, to out US high-level sources in their governments, to know what the US government knows and use it against us.

    The facilities are carefully designed and controlled to ensure that electronic signals, surveillance methods, or other listening devices do not compromise the information discussed in these rooms. I will not, for obvious reasons, go into details.

    Bringing electronic devices into a SCIF, and this SCIF in particular is *very* problematic, especially when done by members of Congress.

    Because Members of Congress (and their electronic devices) are high-value targets for compromise by foreign intelligence services.

    Members of Congress have access to a wide range of sensitive information, including, in the case of these members, conversations with the President of the United States. They travel internationally, receive emails from the public, and meet with foreign dignitaries.

    As politicians, they're also highly sensitive to revelations of derogatory information, which means that foreign adversaries are very interested in collecting same.

    They also tend to be lax in their security protocols. This means they may not know they have been compromised. For example, their phones can be turned into listening devices without their knowledge.
    https://www.ttspy.com/how-to-turn-on...-remotely.html

    This is why outside HPSCI there is a security guard and a series of cabinets for people to leave (and lock) their electronic devices while they are inside the room.

    Failure to follow this protocol can violate the security of the entire SCIF.

    After an incident like this happens, countermeasures have to be taken to ensure the SCIF is not compromised. It is a time-consuming, technical process, which again, I will not discuss.

    But in "storming the SCIF" without observing the security protocols, Rep. Gaetz et al, endangered our national security & demonstrated they care more about a political stunt than protecting intelligence information.

    I cannot emphasize enough how serious this is.

    To ensure that the information was secure, the members should give over their electronic devices for scanning to ensure no malware was on them, and that they have not compromised the SCIF.

    If they don't want to give them up, they should have checked them before entering.
    So, to recap:

    To disrupt testimony from a DOD official on how the President endangered national security for both the US and Ukraine by withholding military aid, the President's allies further endangered national security by storming the SCIF with their electronic devices.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...572125191.html
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  3. #4383

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Jaq
    @LadyJYYC

    “All tweets sent out when I’m in the SCIF are being transmitted to staff for publication” Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ)

    So how exactly were you letting your staff know what to tweet Andy? Smoke signals? Coconut phone? Etch-a-sketch?


    GOP lawmakers scramble to backtrack after realizing their SCIF stunt broke security protocols

    Published 12 mins ago on October 23, 2019By Brad Reed

    Republican lawmakers led by Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) on Wednesday stormed into the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) in the House of Representatives to disrupt the closed-door impeachment inquiry hearings taking place.

    Many of these GOP lawmakers subsequently sent out tweets informing followers that they were offering updates from within the SCIF, which means that they very likely broke security protocols by bringing unsecured phones with cameras into what is supposed to be a secure location.

    After apparently realizing that they’ve opened themselves up to potentially being denied future security clearances, many of these lawmakers posted followup tweets letting people know that it was their staffers outside of the SCIF who were tweeting.

    “All tweets sent out when I’m in the SCIF are being transmitted to staff for publication,” wrote Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ).


    Gaetz and Rep. Mark Walker (R-NC) similarly sent out followup tweets indicating that it was their staff members who were sending out updates..





    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/gop...ity-protocols/
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  4. #4384

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Rep. Alex Mooney
    @RepAlexMooney
    BREAKING--> My report from inside the SCIF hearing room where we are exposing Adam Schiff's secret so-called impeachment inquiry.

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  5. #4385

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Sam Stein
    @samstein
    NEW — House Minority Leader McCarthy’s office was told in advance that its rebel members would storm the SCIF today. They support it.

    https://thedailybeast.com/house-repu...hment-hearings
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    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    One way or another, these idiots will get us all killed.
    Winston, a.k.a. Alvena Rae Risley Hiatt (1944-2019), RIP

  7. #4387

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    The House of Representatives is a clown car because of all the weird Republicans currently elected

    I also think most of them will regret their decision to allow themselves to be photographed from above like that. The capitol building isn't the only shiny dome on display today.
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  8. #4388

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    I'm in one of those districts that elected one of those weird Republicans......I am VERY sorry to say.
    GH

  9. #4389

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    New York City Bar Calls for US AG William Barr's Recusal in Ukraine Matter
    If Barr does not recuse himself, the bar association's statement said, "he should resign or, failing that, be subject to sanctions, including possible removal, by Congress."
    By Michael Riccardi | October 23, 2019 at 12:13 PM

    The New York City Bar Association in a statement Wednesday called on U.S. Attorney General William Barr to stand aside in any ongoing or future review by the Department of Justice of issues stemming from the Trump administration’s dealings with Ukraine, in which Barr has allegedly involved.

    If Barr does not recuse himself, the bar association’s statement* said, “he should resign or, failing that, be subject to sanctions, including possible removal, by Congress.”

    A Department of Justice spokeswoman declined to comment on the demand.

    The New York City Bar’s statement said that Barr has been mentioned, most notably, in a whistleblower report of a July 25, 2019 telephone call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. In that call Trump, according to the whistleblower, said Barr would be in touch with Zelensky to follow up on his request that Ukraine initiate an investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, who was on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company.

    The bar association took no position on the legality of the phone call or merits of the whistleblower’s complaint. But it said the mention of Barr’s name was enough to require his recusal from the probe.

    “We do, however, believe it was, and is, incumbent on the Attorney General to recuse himself from any participation, direct or indirect, in DOJ’s review of the whistleblower complaint,” the New York City Bar statement said. “Regardless of whether Mr. Barr was in fact aware of or part of the President’s plans, either before, at the time of, or after the July 25, 2019 telephone call, it is clear that Mr. Barr was obligated to recuse himself from any involvement in DOJ’s review of either the whistleblower complaint or the substance of the President’s actions once the President offered Mr. Barr’s services to President Zelensky. ”

    The statement noted that Barr himself has recused in two instances–one in 1993 during his term as attorney general during the George H.W. Bush administration and the other earlier this year in the matter of Jeffrey Epstein–and that the step is not rare.

    * https://www.nycbar.org/media-listing...ukraine-matter


    https://www.law.com/newyorklawjourna...20190923174925
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  10. #4390

    Re: A Chronicle of our Descent to Hades

    Jeet Heer
    @HeerJeet

    This underscores a point that needs to be really hammered home: the goal was not to get Ukraine to "investigate" Biden. The goal was to get Ukraine to smear Biden: the manufacture a scandal.

    https://theintercept.com/2019/10/23/...president-cnn/
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