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    The already sucky Bears lost their QB to a broken arm tonight against the Packers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTContinental View Post
    The already sucky Bears lost their QB to a broken arm tonight against the Packers.
    I was watching the baseball game and switched back to the NFL just in time to see the Bears QB leaving the field with his arm hanging at a really odd angle. Sorry to hear it was a break.
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    Giants’ Josh Brown Placed On NFL Exempt List
    Ben McAdoo: 'We're Not Going To Turn Our Back' On Kicker
    October 21, 2016 2:57 PM

    LONDON (CBSNewYork/AP) — The NFL is reportedly placing embattled Giants kicker Josh Brown on the commissioner’s exempt list.

    The designation, used in unusual circumstances, allows Brown to remain employed by the Giants while not counting against the team’s 53-man roster. He will continue to be paid while on the list, which was used two years ago while Vikings running back Adrian Peterson and Panthers defensive end Greg Hardy were dealing with proceedings related to their domestic violence cases.

    The move was first reported Friday by ESPN’s Chris Mortensen.

    The Giants have yet to decide whether Brown will stay on the team after admitting he abused his former wife, coach Ben McAdoo said Friday in a news conference that raised more questions about the franchise’s knowledge of the kicker’s off-field behavior.

    McAdoo faced repeated questioning about Brown following the Giants’ first practice in London for a game Sunday against the Los Angeles Rams.

    The coach did express some level of support for the embattled kicker.

    “We’re not going to turn our back on Josh,” McAdoo said at a news conference in London, where the Giants will play Sunday against the Rams. “He’s a teammate. He’s a guy that we’re hoping makes strides.”

    Brown did not travel to London and the team has yet to say if he will be suspended or cut following the release of county police records in which the player said he physically abused his wife, Molly, over a protracted period. She told police in the documents released by the King County Sheriff’s Office in Washington state that the abuse and other threatening behavior stretched from 2009, when she was pregnant with their daughter, to the Pro Bowl in January 2016.

    At the Pro Bowl in Honolulu, Brown’s wife said she called NFL security to move her and her three children to another hotel to avoid harassment from her estranged husband. She said he had pounded on their hotel door seeking to get in. The allegation is included in the final report filed last month by the local investigating detective, Robin Ostrum.

    Brown’s former wife did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment from The Associated Press.

    A law firm representing the kicker declined comment.

    When asked whether the Giants knew about Brown’s behavior at the Pro Bowl, McAdoo repeatedly said the Giants were still gathering information on the 9-month-old event. Finally, he said: “I’m not going to answer that.”

    However, team co-owner and president John Mara told WFAN’s Mike Francesa on Thursday that he was aware of the incident.

    When a reporter asked McAdoo about his comments in August suggesting he would show no tolerance for players abusive of their family members, McAdoo said his comments then were more nuanced.

    “When did I say zero tolerance?” he said, adding: “I do not support domestic violence, if that’s what you’re asking. I do not condone it.”

    McAdoo described Brown as a “man of faith” who was trying to improve his behavior and the Giants organization was supporting him in this. But when asked to explain how the Giants provided support or monitored his off-field behavior, McAdoo said he couldn’t detail any specific acts of support.

    The NFL’s official policy is to suspend players guilty of domestic abuse for six games on their first offense. Brown was suspended for one game, the Giants’ season-opening victory over the Dallas Cowboys, in punishment for his May 2015 arrest at his family home in Woodinville, Washington, on suspicion of assaulting his wife by grabbing one of her wrists as she tried to reach for a phone, leaving an abrasion and bruising. No charges were filed, but the detective, Ostrum, gathered detailed statements from Molly Brown who also provided her husband’s written admissions of abuse in diary and email entries.

    The NFL said its investigators asked to see these records but were denied.

    NFL commissioner Roger Goodell suggested in a BBC interview Friday that Brown could face further punishment now that league officials can see the full King County evidence file detailing Molly Brown’s allegations of more than 20 episodes of abuse fueled by alcohol and other threatening behavior to herself, her two sons from a previous relationship and the couple’s daughter.

    “We have asked repeatedly for those facts and the information that’s been gathered by law enforcement both orally and in writing. And we weren’t able to get access to it. So you have to make decisions on whatever information you have,” Goodell said in a transcript of the London interview provided by the BBC.

    “We take this issue incredibly seriously. … When it happens we’re not going to tolerate it. So we have some new information here, we’ll evaluate that in the context of our policy, and we’ll take it from there,” Goodell said.

    The Giants in April re-signed Brown to a two-year contract valued at $4 million. When facing his one-game suspension, Brown in August said he was divorced from his wife, although police documents released Wednesday suggested that civil proceedings remain incomplete.

    The Giants have signed kicker Robbie Gould, an 11-year veteran of the Chicago Bears who was cut in September for salary cap reasons. The 34-year-old is expected to practice with the team Saturday.

    “I’ve seen him (Gould) make a lot of kicks against me in the past. He’s been successful, and we’re hoping that continues,” McAdoo said.

    (TM and Copyright 2016 CBS Radio Inc. and its relevant subsidiaries. CBS RADIO and EYE Logo TM and Copyright 2016 CBS Broadcasting Inc. Used under license. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.)

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    Goodell cites “public misunderstanding” of domestic violence cases

    Posted by Mike Florio on October 23, 2016, 4:31 PM EDT

    What was lack of transparency in August has become an exercise in damage control in October, with a league office that wasn’t saying anything before Giants kicker Josh Brown received a one-game suspension saying plenty, now that public and media reaction has been loud and negative in the wake of the disclosure of information that the league could have/should have had before it disciplined Brown the first time.

    Commissioner Roger Goodell recently attributed the bad optics not to bad decisions by the league or bad work by its investigators but, essentially, to bad brains on the part of those reacting to the circumstances.

    “I understand the public’s misunderstanding of those things and how that can be difficult for them to understand how we get to those positions,” Goodell told BBC as part of the pre-Giants-Rams media push, via SNY.tv. “But those are things that we have to do. I think it’s a lot deeper and a lot more complicated than it appears but it gets a lot of focus.”

    Currently getting plenty of focus is the treatment of Brown, whose case has now been re-opened given the emergence of evidence that the league previously didn’t have.

    “Well you have to go and get the facts,” Goodell said. “We have asked repeatedly for those facts and the information that’s been gathered by law enforcement both orally and in writing. And we weren’t able to get access to it. So you have to make decisions on whatever information you have. We take this issue incredibly seriously. This is something we’ve been working on with policy changes, to educating our players to make sure they understand how they deal with issues with their family, give them resources to be able to deal with this.

    “But when it happens we’re not going to tolerate it. So we have some new information here, we’ll evaluate that in the context of our policy and we’ll take it from there.”

    The problem for the league is that it believed something happened to justify a one-game suspension of Brown, but made no meaningful effort (or really any effort at the time) to explain why the NFL had deviated from its supposed baseline of six games for one incident of domestic violence. Which makes phrases like “when it happens we’re not going to tolerate it” sound hollow and meaningless.

    Important questions remain regarding how the Brown case got to this point, and we’ll have some specific answers on Sunday night’s edition of Football Night in America on NBC.



    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...iolence-cases/
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    New York Giants ‏@Giants 33m33 minutes ago
    The #Giants have released Kicker Josh Brown
    Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 5m5 minutes ago
    Giants releasing Josh Brown will effectively end his NFL career. No matter what further discipline he receives don't see anyone signing him
    I hope she's some place safe. A sicko like this will blame her for everything.

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    I hope she's some place safe. A sicko like this will blame her for everything.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.2757186
    Yeah, if she had only NOT pissed him off he wouldn't have had to beat her and he wouldn't be in all this trouble.
    Oh Grigor. You silly man.

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    An adult toy was thrown on the field during the Patriots vs Bills game yesterday.

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    Oh, good gravy.
    Oh Grigor. You silly man.

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    Hall of Fame confirms that Ken Stabler's family won't get ring or jacket because Stable died before induction. Welp.

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    Romo reportedly willing to be a backup to Dak

    Posted by Mike Florio on November 13, 2016, 12:23 PM EST

    Tony Romo won’t be rocking the boat. #asexpected.

    Two days after Cowboys COO Stephen Jones said publicly that Romo likely would accept a backup role, Ian Rapoport of NFL.com reports that Romo will.

    What option does Romo have? He can’t force his way onto the field, and it doesn’t seem to be his style to publicly or privately agitate for things to go his way. Even if he were, any effort to politick for playing time would invite harsh criticism from fans smitten with Dak and media ready to pounce on any sign of dysfunction.

    Rapoport also reports it has been “difficult” for Romo to witness the emergence of Prescott, and that’s understandable. But this book has plenty of chapters remaining in it, and there’s a chance they’ll need Romo at some point before the season ends.

    Jones said on Friday’s PFT Live that there likely won’t be a clear declaration as to who the starter is, and that coach Jason Garrett will have the ability to decide whether in a given situation that Romo could give the team a much-needed spark.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...backup-to-dak/
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    Have some decency. Get Dak to play the first half and, if they have the lead, get Romo in. Say something along the lines that it is for testing him. Dak can come back in the fourth quarter.
    Romo does deserve some respect. Actually, a lot.
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    Very reminiscent of Bledsoe/Brady situation years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    Have some decency. Get Dak to play the first half and, if they have the lead, get Romo in. Say something along the lines that it is for testing him. Dak can come back in the fourth quarter.
    Romo does deserve some respect. Actually, a lot.
    I disagree. The first priority of a football team should be to win games. Dak is winning games.
    Oh Grigor. You silly man.

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    Which is the reason I said to put him in IF they are up.
    But remember how important chemistry is in a team sport. If the team knows that the management has nor respect for the player, you know how that usually ends. And it takes only one wrong gesture, and Romo is popular with the team.
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    I'm guessing the 7-1 Dak is pretty popular now as well.

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