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    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by dryrunguy View Post
    Clarification: I've been thinking all along that this concern over Olympic water events is limited to outdoor water events. Am I wrong about that? Is there also a concern about indoor water events?
    I don't know for sure, but I think you are right. Purifying a water for indoor events ought to be a trivial undertaking. I bet the well-off citizens of Rio don't swim in a dirty water either.
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    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    I think I assumed it was all about outdoor events because every article I've read about it has a picture of outdoor water (and trash, of course). But then I wondered. Thanks for the quick clarification, amie and suliso.

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    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Outdoor events. I haven't read anything about indoor water events. I did just read that the roof was omitted from an event (swimming? diving?) and that participants will probably be eaten alive by mosquitos. It was a Tweet earlier today.
    I can't say 100% for sure, but this is probably an exaggeration. I've been to Brazil -but not Rio- multiple times and have encountered much less mosquitoes than I do at home. It's all about fumigating.
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    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Drop-shot View Post
    I can't say 100% for sure, but this is probably an exaggeration. I've been to Brazil -but not Rio- multiple times and have encountered much less mosquitoes than I do at home. It's all about fumigating.
    Yes the tweet was earlier this morning and I don't remember who it was from. Those were their words not mine.
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  5. #20

    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Yes the tweet was earlier this morning and I don't remember who it was from. Those were their words not mine.
    Yeah.

    Rio will have its shortcoming for sure, but those comments from whomever just intend to pile on.
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    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    Owen Gibson ‏@owen_g 46m46 minutes ago
    Rio 2016 update: organisers will charge athletes for mosquito nets to combat zika and a human arm has been spotted at the sailing venue.
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




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    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Owen Gibson ‏@owen_g 46m46 minutes ago
    Rio 2016 update: organisers will charge athletes for mosquito nets to combat zika and a human arm has been spotted at the sailing venue.
    1. This will go down as the stingiest Olympics of all time.

    2. Why the fuss? Who's never thrown a human appendage to the river/ocean?
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    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    at the dr's office , I just gasped out loud in the waiting room. If I'm an athlete, seriously, are the Olympics all that?


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    MJ the athletes train for four years to make this, for many, once in a lifetime chance to excel. It's sad that the host country this year doesn't look to have put any effort in guaranteeing the safety and well being of the participants.
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    I know... That was tongue in cheek. Especially for some of these countries, unfortunately they mean far too much.


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    Do some online research about the political climate in Brazil right now (president Rousef is in deep, boiling waters) and you will see that the Olympics are the least of problems for everybody there.
    A shark could eat Michael Phelps alive while swimming in an indoor pool and it would make page 2 of any newspaper.
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  12. #27

    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    I understand ponchi but they won the bid in 2009.

    Rio Wins 2016 Olympics in a First for South America
    By JULIET MACUR OCT. 2, 2009

    COPENHAGEN — When Rio de Janeiro was elected host city for the 2016 Olympic Games on Friday, the room where its bid team gathered turned into a boisterous party with members in uniform navy or moss green blazers hugging, dancing, crying and waving Brazilian flags. The bid leader, Carlos Arthur Nuzman, yelled, “We did it! We did it!”

    Rio and Chicago had gone into the day considered the favorites, ahead of Tokyo and Madrid. But by the time Rio was chosen by the International Olympic Committee to become the first South American city to host the Olympics, the Chicago delegation and its star-studded supporters were nowhere in sight.

    They had already left the building.

    Despite the support of President Obama, who flew in specifically to address the I.O.C. voters, Chicago finished last, out of the running in the first round of voting, with a paltry 18 of a total 94 votes. Tokyo received 22, with Rio getting 26 and Madrid 28. In each round, until one city gains a majority, the low vote-getter is eliminated. After Chicago was tossed aside, nearly all of its votes went straight to Rio in the second round. In the third, after Tokyo was eliminated, Rio won handily, 66-32.

    The chance to bring the Olympics to a continent that had never hosted the Games worked in Rio’s favor. During its presentation, the bid team showed a graphic of the world and marked all the places that have held an Olympics. South America was glaringly bare.

    “There was absolutely no flaw in the bid,” the I.O.C. president, Jacques Rogge, said.

    Chicago officials had worked nearly four years and spent nearly $50 million to bring the Summer Olympics to the United States for the first time since the 1996 Atlanta Games. There were many possible explanations for Chicago’s spectacular failure, but little consensus.

    Some pointed to the regional bloc voting in the treacherous first round. Others said some voters, assuming Chicago was a lock to advance because of the presence of Mr. Obama and his wife, Michelle, might have taken their early votes elsewhere. Many also blamed the rocky relationship between the United States Olympic Committee and the I.O.C.

    Others said there was no explaining it.

    “Everybody was shocked at that result,” said Rene Fasel, an I.O.C. member from Switzerland, regarding Chicago’s first-round ouster. “Everybody expected Chicago and Rio, everybody. It was really strange, and I feel really sorry. If it would have been Chicago and Rio in the end, it would have been much closer.”

    Anita DeFrantz, one of two I.O.C. members from the United States, said she could not believe how the vote unfolded, particularly after the Obamas’ visit. “I hate the fact that these elegant people were here and then our country got treated that way,” she said.

    Beyond showing an apparent indifference to the United States’ star power, the I.O.C. vote was interpreted as a repudiation of the U.S.O.C., which has been in upheaval over the past year and has struggled to gain a favorable standing within the I.O.C.

    “It was a defeat for the U.S.O.C., not for Chicago,” said Denis Oswald, an I.O.C. member from Switzerland.

    Mr. Oswald said that 10 to 15 fellow I.O.C. members had approached him recently wanting to discuss issues related to the U.S.O.C. He said that changes in U.S.O.C. leadership “has not helped,” either, and that it was clear that the Chicago bid and the U.S.O.C. were not united. Stephanie Streeter, the acting chief executive of the U.S.O.C., and Larry Probst, the committee’s chairman, have taken their posts in the last year and have run into problems with the I.O.C., most notably over their stalled plan for an Olympic television network and their share of the Games’ network and corporate sponsorship contracts.

    “The United States, within the Olympic movement, hasn’t engaged as well as we could have for a long time,” said Robert Ctvrtlik, the U.S.O.C. vice president for international relations. “There’s a lot of politics going on. This isn’t just on the merits. I don’t think it’s anti-American. Maybe we still don’t have the horsepower to do some of the politicking within the movement.”

    For the first time, a United States president met with the I.O.C. on behalf of an American bid — which U.S.O.C. officials called the country’s strongest bid ever — but that was not enough. This followed New York City’s failed bid for the 2012 Summer Games, a second-round exit after winning only 19 votes.

    (...)

    The I.O.C. member Kevan Gosper, of Australia, said the few votes cast for Chicago could have been an accident. “There might have been an effort on the part of the Asian group to protect Tokyo in the first round,” he said.

    Richard W. Pound, an I.O.C. member from Canada, said that Chicago might have been eliminated early on purpose. “I think there were a lot of people saying, if we don’t get it, we’ll support you, but we’ve got to stop Chicago,” he said. “That’s sport politics, not anything else. It’s election management. The Europeans and the Asians are much better at this than we are.”

    (...)

    Geography, though, was Rio’s strongest point. It helped the city overcome concerns about security in the Brazilian city. There were also concerns that the country would be overextended because it is hosting the 2014 World Cup.

    It helped Rio that the I.O.C. has a history of trying to effect change with its choices for bid cities. The committee awarded the 2008 Summer Games to Beijing, hoping to help open China to the world. In 1981, it gave the 1988 Summer Games to Seoul to help usher in a civilian government.

    By choosing Rio, it could help the country develop faster and could bring an entire continent of people closer to the Olympic movement.

    “Today is the most emotional day in my life, the most exciting day of my life,” President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva of Brazil said. “I’ve never felt more pride in Brazil. Now, we are going to show the world we can be a great country. We aren’t the United States, but we are getting there, and we will get there.”


    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/03/sp...pics.html?_r=0
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    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie
    Now, we are going to show the world we can be a great country. We aren’t the United States, but we are getting there, and we will get there.”[/B][/url]
    They've been saying this for the last 50 years, or more. We're still waiting.

  14. #29

    Re: The Olympics: Rio 2016

    Indeed, they won the bid in 2009. But, and I guess Drop can back me in this one, Brazilians are not famous for planning for tomorrow.
    Unless it is their costume for next year's carnival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    Indeed, they won the bid in 2009. But, and I guess Drop can back me in this one, Brazilians are not famous for planning for tomorrow.
    Unless it is their costume for next year's carnival.
    I was incredibly surprised by how lazy (in lack of a better word) they were. I was there this January (high season) and the only restaurant at the place I was staying stopped serving at about 10:30 PM and takeout only lasted a while longer. They could've made a killing by staying open but no.

    *please note that a normal restaurant in these latitudes closes no sooner than 1AM, much less on a vacation spot during high season.

    Also, the shopping mall didn't open on Sundays until 1PM! I was shocked.
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