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    Re: Supreme Court Watch 2014-15

    Supreme Court Declares Same-Sex Marriage Legal In All 50 States

    States cannot keep same-sex couples from marrying and must recognize their unions, the Supreme Court says in a ruling that for months has been the focus of speculation. The ruling was made by a 5-4 decision.

    Justice Anthony Kennedy, seen as a pivotal swing vote in the case, wrote the majority opinion. All four justices who voted against the ruling wrote their own dissenting opinions: Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas, and Samuel Alito.

    "The ancient origins of marriage confirm its centrality, but it has not stood in isolation from developments in law and society," Kennedy wrote. His opinion included a history of how ideas of marriage have evolved along with the changing roles and legal status of women.

    Comparing that evolution to society's views of gays and lesbians, Kennedy noted that for years, "A truthful declaration by same-sex couples of what was in their hearts had to remain unspoken."

    "The nature of injustice is that we may not always see it in our own times," Kennedy wrote after recounting the legal struggles faced by same-sex partners.

    The justices ruled in Obergefell v. Hodges, which is linked to three other cases. Together, they involve a dozen couples who challenged same-sex marriage bans in Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee the only states whose bans on marriage between gay and lesbian couples had been sustained by a federal appeals court.

    Today's ruling overturned that decision by the 6th Circuit Court. As the Supreme Court's summary states, "The history of marriage is one of both continuity and change."

    The justices had been asked to decide whether the Fourteenth Amendment requires states to a) license same-sex marriages and b) recognize such unions that were made in other states.

    The Fourteenth Amendment, we'll remind you, was ratified shortly after the Civil War. It has to do with U.S. citizenship and with providing equal protection for all citizens.

    Before Friday's ruling, gay marriage had already been made legal in 37 states by either legislative or voter action or by federal courts that overturned state' bans.

    As NPR's Nina Totenberg reported when the Supreme Court heard the current case back in April, conservative justices had pointed questions for the attorneys:

    "Justice Scalia asked whether ministers would be able to refuse to marry two gay men. The answer was that it has to be worked out under state laws. He said, but that could happen it could happen that a minister would be forced to marry two gay men, in violation of his beliefs.

    "Justice Alito asked, well then why not marry four gay men together? Why just two?"

    The ruling announced Friday adds new definition to an issue that has remained controversial even as an increasing number of Americans say they support equal marriage rights for same-sex couples. A recent Gallup poll found that 60 percent of Americans an all-time high support extending the same rights and privileges to same-sex marriages as traditional ones.

    That figure included "37 percent of Republicans, 64 percent of independents, and 76 percent of Democrats," as we reported last month. And it included all age groups except for one: those 65 and over.

    The court noted the change in thinking, stating:

    "Well into the 20th century, many States condemned same-sex intimacy as immoral, and homosexuality was treated as an illness. Later in the century, cultural and political developments allowed same-sex couples to lead more open and public lives. Extensive public and private dialogue followed, along with shifts in public attitudes. Questions about the legal treatment of gays and lesbians soon reached the courts, where they could be discussed in the formal discourse of the law."
    For supporters of same-sex marriage, today's ruling comes as a long-awaited bookend to the Supreme Court's 2013 ruling that struck down the federal Defense of Marriage Act and required the U.S. government to provide the same benefits to both gay and heterosexual couples.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...-sex-marriages

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    Re: Supreme Court Watch 2014-15

    Ok. I can exhale now.

    Closer than I would have liked.
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    Scalia out did his boy Clarence Thomas in his dissent. I'm trying to find a piece that isn't chopped off.

    He complained that all of the Justices are from the East or West coasts, that there are no Protestants, no Mid Westerners and no Evangelicals.


    I found the screen shot I was looking for and posted it below.
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    Kudos to Dallas County. While other counties in Texas are waiting on "guidance" from the State, Dallas County was ready to go. Within minutes, they were issuing licenses. They also have all 18 judges ready to grant waivers to the 72-hour waiting period, and if the couples want to be, marry them today.

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    Re: Supreme Court Watch 2014-15

    The link below has the majority opinion (the last paragraph is one of the most beautiful things I've ever read) and the dissenting opinions.

    http://documents.latimes.com/supreme...-gay-marriage/

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    This is the part of Justice Kennedy's opinion that has gone viral.

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    This is the paragraph I was looking for from Scalia's dissent.



    I guess the borough of Queens, in NYC is in some mythical land not part of the East Coast of the US.
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    ... and genuine West only goes up to Nevada. California is so far West that it becomes East again.
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    What a relief!!! I was out and busy, but I was able to listen to the news on the radio. And Dry, thanks for the phone call. I am delighted that this fight is over. I truly never thought I'd live to see this day!!!

    Love to all of you....a great group of people you are!! GH

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    Re: Supreme Court Watch 2014-15

    "In the war for marriage equality, Huckabee is the lonely Japanese soldier dutifully defending his island bunker years after the last shots were fired. He just doesn't know it yet."

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2015...e-sex-marriage

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    Re: Supreme Court Watch 2014-15

    Video of the first same sex marriage in Dallas... It's absolutely adorable.

    https://www.facebook.com/wfaachannel...71545/?fref=nf

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    I'm amazed at the number of people who have forgotten what purpose the judicial branch of our government serves.
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    Re: Supreme Court Watch 2014-15

    Quote Originally Posted by GlennHarman View Post
    What a relief!!! I was out and busy, but I was able to listen to the news on the radio. And Dry, thanks for the phone call. I am delighted that this fight is over. I truly never thought I'd live to see this day!!!

    Love to all of you....a great group of people you are!! GH
    BTW, I'm sorry for crying during the entire voicemail I left you. I'm glad you were able to understand my blabbering.

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    I'm amazed at the number of people who have forgotten what purpose the judicial branch of our government serves.
    Louisiana Gov, Bobby Jindal (R) on Friday suggested doing away with the Supreme Court during a speech in Iowa that followed the court's historic ruling on same-sex marriage.

    "The Supreme Court is completely out of control, making laws on their own, and has become a public opinion poll instead of a judicial body," he told the crowd, as quoted by The Advocate newspaper. "If we want to save some money lets just get rid of the court."

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...-rid-of-scotus

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    They (the GOP) just don't get it. They went to the highest court in the land and the logic of the decision is not what they want AND THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THE SUPREME COURT?
    How infantile can you be?
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