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  1. #12616

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    Steve Singiser
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    Meanwhile, "Family Values Republican" Rep. Scott DesJarlais remains in Congress, seven years after it was revealed that he advocated an abortion for a patient **under his care** that he had impregnated, and also slept with three subordinates at the hospital where he worked.
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  2. #12617

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    Exactly. The Dems are their worst own enemies.
    And. Why is it that Americans can't separate the PRIVATE from the PUBLIC? Assume Hill had a revolving door of sexual relations with her staff, both men and women.
    Consenting adults, behind closed doors. Nobody else's business.
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  3. #12618

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    Ponchi, I agree with that last note mostly. But I do see some of the problems with excessive fraternization in the workplace......

    But one of the most memorable things I ever read was an editorial in the English-language newspaper in Stockholm in 2003. It was entitled something like "What constitutes an important lie in the USA?" They were pointing out that the country had considered ousting a president (Clinton) because he lied about where he put his thing. And they were pointing out that no one was trying, in 2003, to impeach GW Bush for lying about the weapons of mass destruction in a way that started a war in which 10's of thousands of people (already by that time) had died. Of course, in the USA, everyone said what Clinton did was made awful by the fact that he lied under oath. But the editorial rightly pointed out that the first person to cast stones should be the person who had never lied about his or her sex life.

    Clinton did things that were clearly wrong, several of them involving the treatment of women. Like Clinton, I know that Al Franken and Katie Hill are not perfect people. But look how many much worse things various Republicans have done while the party stood firmly behind them and there were few if any consequences......the double standard and hypocrisy continue to blossom here every day.

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    Re: Politics Random Random

    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    Exactly. The Dems are their worst own enemies.
    And. Why is it that Americans can't separate the PRIVATE from the PUBLIC? Assume Hill had a revolving door of sexual relations with her staff, both men and women.
    Consenting adults, behind closed doors. Nobody else's business.
    Of course it's other people's business. It can lead to a lawsuit from those she has relationships with and from other staffers.

    Also, one of the relationships was supposed to be with a House staffer which is prohibited by House rules (they both deny a relationship).

    I feel bad for how this happened to her and especially the 24-year-old employee she and her husband were in a thrupple with, but I think resignation was the right step (also quite obviously her decision rather than the Party's). It's Dems putting their mouth where their money is.


  5. #12620

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    Jill Filipovic
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    Let's make a list of all of the legislators who have had affairs with subordinates, sexually harassed people, or otherwise engaged in sexual misconduct but are still in office...
    (She has links for each entry)

    Joe Morrissey, a Democrat about to be elected to the Virginia General Assembly, pleaded guilty to having sex with his then-17-year-old receptionist (he was 56). Then he married her.

    Justin Fairfax, the Democratic Lt. Gov. of Virginia, has been accused of rape by two women. He remains in office:

    Larry Crowder, a Republican legislator in Colorado, was accused by a Democratic congresswoman of pinching her butt on the House floor(!) and, on a separate occasion, making a lewd sexual remark to her.

    Brian Bosma, the current Republican Speaker of the House of Indiana, "paid a law firm more than $40,000 in campaign funds [last] year in part to gather unflattering information" about a woman who says he coerced her into oral sex when she was an intern.

    Duncan Hunter, a Republican Congressman from California, pursued affairs with multiple congressional staff, including one of his own aides, & used campaign funds to pay for them. Another staffer says he groped her. He faced no consequences from his party.

    Scott Desjarlais, a Repub Congressman from Tennessee, was a physician when he had an affair with one of his patients - a clear abuse of power & ethical violation - and then pushed her to have an abortion. He is "pro-life." His ex also says he abused her.

    David Byrd, a Republican Tennessee state representative, stands accused of sexually assaulting at least three girls when they played on the Wayne County High School basketball team he coached. He is still in the legislature (but he won't seek reelection).
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  6. #12621

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    Matthew Chapman
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    CNN correspondent Kyung Lah said today a GOP operative told her they have over 700 revenge porn pics of Katie Hill.

    Imagine Republican men passing around these naked pictures and leering at them. This is sick.

    No wonder she resigned. She must feel like her life is over.
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    Y'all are forgetting something very important.

    Men are SUPPOSED to be sexual and excused for it. Which goes right back to the errant "boys will be boys" argument used to excused boys who behave badly.

    Women are supposed to sexual ONLY when a man wants it, demands it, or goes so far as to take it without consent.

    What happened to Katie Hill is the product of this double standard.
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  8. #12623

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    And I will keep repeating, America's fixation with the sexual habits of their representatives.
    I mean, just ask Ilona Staller.
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  9. #12624

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Jill Filipovic
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    Let's make a list of all of the legislators who have had affairs with subordinates, sexually harassed people, or otherwise engaged in sexual misconduct but are still in office...
    (She has links for each entry)

    Joe Morrissey, a Democrat about to be elected to the Virginia General Assembly, pleaded guilty to having sex with his then-17-year-old receptionist (he was 56). Then he married her.

    Justin Fairfax, the Democratic Lt. Gov. of Virginia, has been accused of rape by two women. He remains in office:

    Larry Crowder, a Republican legislator in Colorado, was accused by a Democratic congresswoman of pinching her butt on the House floor(!) and, on a separate occasion, making a lewd sexual remark to her.

    Brian Bosma, the current Republican Speaker of the House of Indiana, "paid a law firm more than $40,000 in campaign funds [last] year in part to gather unflattering information" about a woman who says he coerced her into oral sex when she was an intern.

    Duncan Hunter, a Republican Congressman from California, pursued affairs with multiple congressional staff, including one of his own aides, & used campaign funds to pay for them. Another staffer says he groped her. He faced no consequences from his party.

    Scott Desjarlais, a Repub Congressman from Tennessee, was a physician when he had an affair with one of his patients - a clear abuse of power & ethical violation - and then pushed her to have an abortion. He is "pro-life." His ex also says he abused her.

    David Byrd, a Republican Tennessee state representative, stands accused of sexually assaulting at least three girls when they played on the Wayne County High School basketball team he coached. He is still in the legislature (but he won't seek reelection).
    This list is way too short, by several hundred, if not thousands, if we are including state representatives. I do have to laugh at Bosma, who he says was coerced into oral sex with an intern. Really, coerced? And if true, what was the leverage? That he bought a box of paper clips for his own personal use with state money? Statements like this is why people just roll their eyes at these stories.

    I do feel for Hill, however. Having people leer and laugh at pictures of you (and a partner) taken during a time of private intimacy is one of the most horrible invasions of personal privacy I can imagine (if you haven't posted if online for some reason). Still, if you do have pictures of that type of nature (I assume that she knew that they were being taken), it behooves you to take extra precautions to safeguard them.

    And given the depressing number of sexting photos sent via cell phone (often unsolicited), one wonders why this is still such a big scandal. Anthony Wiener's pictures lend themselves to humor (after all, it is hard to get a more perfect name for satire), but Brett Favre and others have had this issue arise. Still, it is so much more of an issue here in America, because we still have 2 competing categories we place women in - madonnas and whores. Even though I taught science, this was an issue I discussed when we had to do sex education - the double standard that gets imposed on girls. I included it with the piece about not sending out anything, including pics, that you wouldn't want your grandparents to see, since you have no control once something gets goes out in cyberspace.
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  10. #12625

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    NRCC campaign prank leads to suspicious package investigation
    BY JOHN BOWDEN - 10/31/19 04:16 PM EDT

    Capitol Hill police were called to investigate suspicious packages outside the offices of several House Democrats on Thursday after staffers for the National Republican Campaign Committee (NRCC) delivered "moving boxes" to several lawmakers.

    NRCC spokesman Bob Salera confirmed to The Hill that their staffers had placed the boxes at the offices of Reps. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.), Conor Lamb (D-Pa.) and others, and said in a statement: “We know House Democrats love investigations, but why are they looking a gift horse in the mouth? These moving boxes will come in handy next November when they’re booted from office for impeaching the president.”

    Reporters indicated on Twitter that Capitol Hill police questioned two NRCC staffers on Capitol Hill about the incident, as the boxes were marked "The NRCC" in the sender's field.

    I'm told that Capitol Police is investigating suspicious packages in House office buildings that were dropped off by the NRCC after the impeachment inquiry vote.

    Among those who've received: Spanberger, Fletcher, Schrier, Lamb

    — Sarah Ferris (@sarahnferris) October 31, 2019
    it’s two kids, basically they look like interns.

    — Alex Thomas (@AlexThomasDC) October 31, 2019
    Apparently the NRCC sent some frontline Democrats “moving boxes” after the impeachment vote, but because the boxes looked like suspicious packages, Capitol Police were called to investigate. So that’s neat.

    Pic from a source:

    — Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) October 31, 2019
    Capitol Police would not comment on whether any staffers had been questioned, and told The Hill that "the incident has been cleared" in a statement.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...-investigation


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    Apparently no one at the NRCC took a second to think whether sending congressional offices suspicious looking packages was a sound idea, which sounds about right.
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  11. #12626

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    Huge night for the Dems in Southeast PA. It likely won't garner a ton of attention on the national news, but the implications are there regardless for the bigger elections in 2020.

    Philadelphia is a 5-county region on the PA side. Philadelphia, Montgomery, Bucks, Delaware, and Chester counties. The suburban counties have long been studied by political scientists as a microcosm of the country that they can study to track national trends. Even the least populated (Chester) has over 500,000 people living there. Though the general area itself in national elections trends toward voting Blue in recent years, for local and state elections which bleeds into Congressional races, it is a more of a tug of war with plenty of areas that have been GOP controlled forever, remaining GOP controlled for much longer than the surrounding voting population would suggest it should.

    But on Tuesday, Delaware Country has become a Democrat controlled county for the first time since the Civil War. No, not a typo, the Civil War. Dems gained their first ever seats on the county board 2 years ago and now, all 5 members of the board are Dems.

    Bucks County is going to have a Dem majority for the first time in 3 decades. Though that is a touch misleading as that majority was just a brief 4-year majority in GOP stronghold as well. Significant wins since this is very much a swing county right now with moderate voters that just re-elected a GOP House Rep last year.

    Chester County is the only county in the region that still has a Republican majority in the voting registry. And their county government has also just became a Dem majority for the first time ever.

    So, for the first time ever, and this is an old ass state with counties almost as old, the 5 county Philadelphia region will have Dems leading every single county. This is a major problem for Idiot and GOP in general especially now that we've successfully gotten rid of the gerry-mandered districts.

    20 Electoral Votes firmly in play to go Blue in 2020. Don't mess it up again Western PA.
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  12. #12627

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    At the hairdresser everyone was saying "they lost Kentucky". Black people have a reputation of not paying attention but that is all everyone talked about. I should say mentioned because they would smile, shake their heads and go on to something else.

    Thanks for posting about SE Pennsylvania. I hadn't heard anything about them.
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  13. #12628

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    This is bad. Very bad.

    Trump to kick off 100th Veterans Day parade in NYC on Monday
    By Marisa SchultzNovember 6, 2019 | 6:29am | Updated

    President Trump will be the first president to kick off New York City’s Veterans Day Parade, the White House announced Wednesday.

    Trump will address the 100th Annual Opening Ceremony of the parade on Monday and then will lay a wreath at the Eternal Light Memorial at Madison Square Park.

    As a private citizen, Trump stepped up to raise or donate large sums of money when the parade was struggling. The New York Times reported that in 1995 Trump agreed to give $200,000 and wanted to be named parade grand marshal in return, though it appears he never held that honor.

    In 1985, Trump also made a $1 million donation to create a Vietnam Veterans Memorial at 55 Water St.

    “The President has been great supporter of our veterans and indeed this parade here in New York City for more than 25 years,” said Bill White, 2019 Veteran’s Day Parade co-producer. “What he is doing now as president with regard to veterans choice, funding our military, and holding them and their families in the highest regard is truly extraordinary. He is loved by our veterans for sure.”

    The 100th annual tribute parade is hosted by the United War Veterans Council. The president of the United States is traditionally invited to attend the annual event, but Trump is believed to be the only one to personally accept.

    “This is a day when we put politics aside to focus on honoring our veterans, and to re-commit ourselves as a community to providing them with the services they have earned, the services they deserve and, for many, the services they were denied,” Doug McGowan, chairman of the United War Veterans Council Board, said. “We thank and commend President Trump for leading that effort on this Centennial, and we acknowledge his historic support for our activities here in New York City.”

    Trump’s visit will be the first time in more than a decade a president spent Veterans Day in the Big Apple. In 2008, President Bush commemorated Veterans Day in New York City on the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum. And in 2001 — two months after the 9/11 attacks — Bush spoke at a Veterans Day prayer breakfast in New York and attended a somber ceremony at Ground Zero.

    But often presidents honor Veterans Day by laying a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery.

    Trump caught heat last year for staying in the White House and making calls on Veterans Day instead of heading to Arlington. “I should have done that,” Trump told Fox News Sunday in a moment of regret.

    Trump spent his first Veterans Day as president overseas in Vietnam in 2017 where he met with veterans there.

    President Bill Clinton went to Arlington Cemetery all eight years of his presidency. President Obama missed the wreath laying twice at Arlington for travel in South Korea and China over Veterans Day.

    Trump recently bid adieu to New York City and named Mar-a-Lago his permanent residence. But the former New Yorker will stick around after the parade for a speech at the Economic Club on Tuesday.

    Trump won’t be marching in the parade after his opening ceremony speech. But Marine Corps Commandant Gen. David Berger will serve as honorary grand marshal and will lead a contingent of Marines up Fifth Avenue.

    The five other grand marshals represent five generations of service from World War II to the Iraq war, including Herschel “Woody” Williams, who was awarded the Medal of Honor for his service in the Marine Corps in World War II.


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  14. #12629

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    I mean why isn't he attending a parade in his home state of Florida?
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  15. #12630

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    I mean why isn't he attending a parade in his home state of Florida?
    He can stay out of his "new" state for the weekend.
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