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    Re: Politics Random Random

    Where's that "Shocked" GIF?


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    This came up in my Twitter feed

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    Interesting portrayal of reality.
    About Lindsey Graham. Ok, this guy says EVERY single sex worker he knows has been hired by a senator. Then he spills the name. So, better deliver the goods. Otherwise, I would legally side with Graham and sue for defamation.
    You have to be fair. Get every sex worker you know to come out and tell whether they indeed have been with Graham.
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

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    To follow up on the Graham outing:

    Lady G was trending for awhile on Twitter. I thought it was Lady GaGa and her new album. Nope. It was Lindsey Graham.

    Wayne Madsen @WMRDC
    Word is that "Lady G" is about to be outed by male escorts who've agreed their NDAs with the "lady" are unenforceable. Well, Shazam!
    Lady G is still trending.

    Santiago Mayer @santiagomayer_

    To be completely honest, if two days ago you’d told me that the Senator who died his hair to look more like dear leader also hires male escorts, makes them sign NDAs, and goes by the name of Lady G… I’d have believed you with no questions asked.
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    I don’t care if Lindsey Graham is gay or if he used the name Lady G. But I do care if Trump and Putin had kompromat on him and have been blackmailing him since 2017. Read this by ⁦@gregolear and you may be convinced that’s exactly what happened.

    Lindsey Graham is Trump's Hostage
    There is no other rational explanation for his complete 180.
    Greg Olear
    Nov 29, 2019
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    Re: Politics Random Random

    Does anyone know the true origins of the term "Lady G"? It makes a great deal of difference in how I interpret and respond to this.
    Winston, a.k.a. Alvena Rae Risley Hiatt (1944-2019), RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryrunguy View Post
    Does anyone know the true origins of the term "Lady G"? It makes a great deal of difference in how I interpret and respond to this.
    That's the name Graham went by it seems.
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    Re: Politics Random Random

    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    That's the name Graham went by it seems.
    I'll believe that when I see it. My gut tells me it is far more likely that this term was thrust on him to feminize and, thus, dehumanize him.

    Don't me wrong. I detest him. But if it turns out that people started calling him Lady G to dehumanize him, because making him a woman would dehumanize him, then I'm not cool with that. Regardless of how much I detest him.
    Winston, a.k.a. Alvena Rae Risley Hiatt (1944-2019), RIP

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    As much as I detest Lindsey Graham (at least as much as any of you), I agree with what Dry just said.

    Obviously, I have no inside knowledge on this business at all. But I can't help but wonder whether there is some fire where all this smoke is. And my confusion does stem from the fact that he made a very weird complete turn-around on Trump in 2016. Having been one of the most aggressive Trump haters during 2015-16, he turned into just about the most aggressive Trump apologist. And the turnaround seems to have happened almost overnight.

    If it does turn out that he is gay and was hiring male prostitutes (all very plausible given his history), then he will be reviled by me every bit as much as I revile Trump. There is no level of hell low enough for a gay male U.S. Senator who has done as much against gays as this man has in his career.

    GH

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    I looked up that he has never been married or linked to any woman. I think for a man of his generation that is very indicative.

    Interestingly are there amy other prominent US politicians in the same situation - over 50, never married or linked with the opposite sex? There could be more gay people in the government than one usually thinks there is.
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    When I was probably 12 or 13, and already totally aware of my own sexuality but not very aware of what that meant in the grand scheme of things, I remember seeing an article by some prominent psychologist that said basically, "In today's society, any man who makes it to age 30 never having been married stands a 60% chance of being gay. That percentage goes up with further increasing age." So that was written in the mid-to-late 60's. I would suggest that percentage would not be that high today. Still.......

    Lindsey Graham is about a year younger than I am. The absolute lack of links to women is really quite hard to ignore. I don't think I could ever be desperate enough to have one date with that man. But think of all the people of either gender (women to help in his situation) who would gladly go out with him just because of his wealth (said to be worth $3 million, which isn't that much for a politician of his years of experience, but still would allow quite a nice lifestyle in South Carolina). So he would not have had to try hard to find women who would be glad to be his escort, or anything else, for the lifestyle it may help them have. He could use the "I was always too busy" excuse, but that is very hard to buy over the course of decades.

    I have been suspicious of him for ages. But, of course, I have nothing to go on other than suspicions and statistics. It is increasingly sounding like there are people with far more evidence who are willing to talk.

    I do think there are likely to be other gay men in the government. There have always been rumors swirling around Charlie Crist, former governor of Florida, as a Republican, and now a Democratic Representative from Florida. He has been married and divorced a couple of times.

    There was the Republican senator from Idaho, Larry Craig, who was arrested for soliciting a same-sex sexual encounter in a restroom at the Minneapolis-St. Paul Airport. Apparently, there were plenty of people who knew he was gay. He never admitted to anything, but this did spell the end of his Senate career. As a Senator, he was completely opposed to any form of gay rights.

    Of course, we've long since discussed Aaron Schock, the Republican former congressman from Peoria, Illinois, who recently came out. He also had a perfectly awful voting record on gay rights.

    I think there are others we don't know about. Interestingly, while my preference would be for gay politicians to be open about that fact, I don't really mind if politicians stay in the closet, EXCEPT if they are in the closet and voting against rights for LGBTQ people. This is all too often the scenario, and I despise anyone who does that.

    GH

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    I can only speculate having never met (I think) any of those anti gay gay people about their thinking in this regard. Perhaps you have and can explain the mental gymnastics they go through?

    I believe there are two female lesbian/bisexual senators. Somehow that is taken easier by the society.
    Roger forever

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    Senator Kyrsten Sinema is openly bisexual. And from Arizona.
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    About Graham. These are not trivial accusations. And I don't mean about him being gay. I mean about him being blackmailed by Vlad/Tiny. This is a US Senator, and if he was really compromised by the Soviets and, as the article says, Kavanaugh is also in the same place, then maybe the USSR (it is time we start calling it what it really is) has these two key US politicians in its pocket and a few more. Maybe it has been the GOP that was really the ally of the Commies, after all.
    And THAT, what I just wrote, is inconsequential as long as it is kept in this forum. But if somebody is writing about it in a national magazine, then he must deliver the proofs. It is like in science: extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. You can't go and print an article saying that the only explanation for Graham's reversal of position regarding Trump is that he (Graham) is gay and Trump (and therefore Putin) has kompromat on him, because Graham IS NOT THE ONLY ONE. Ted Cruz also spoke terribly of Tiny, is clearly not gay, and yet he also turned around. While not being so enthusiastically supportive of Tiny, Susan Collins has also never crossed him while having spoken in the past less than flattering things about him. So no, Graham is not the sole Republican that has flipped his tone.
    I am not defending Graham. It would not surprise me one bit if the entire story is true. Paraphrasing Christopher Hitchens: if Vlad has pictures of Graham in a Nevada Hotel maxing out his credit cards with an Apache transvestite, I would not blink. But if you write an article about that, you better provide evidence.
    Otherwise, you might as well have written it for the National Enquirer.
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    Gays in congress and the senate. The total number of elected officials is almost 700. That is fairly representative. The percentages of LGBTQ people in the USA are fairly well known. As, for example, is the percentage of atheists. So to believe that in that group there are no gay people is the same as believing there are no unbelievers there. Basically impossible
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    Senator Kyrsten Sinema is openly bisexual. And from Arizona.
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    About Graham. These are not trivial accusations. And I don't mean about him being gay. I mean about him being blackmailed by Vlad/Tiny. This is a US Senator, and if he was really compromised by the Soviets and, as the article says, Kavanaugh is also in the same place, then maybe the USSR (it is time we start calling it what it really is) has these two key US politicians in its pocket and a few more. Maybe it has been the GOP that was really the ally of the Commies, after all.
    And THAT, what I just wrote, is inconsequential as long as it is kept in this forum. But if somebody is writing about it in a national magazine, then he must deliver the proofs. It is like in science: extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. You can't go and print an article saying that the only explanation for Graham's reversal of position regarding Trump is that he (Graham) is gay and Trump (and therefore Putin) has kompromat on him, because Graham IS NOT THE ONLY ONE. Ted Cruz also spoke terribly of Tiny, is clearly not gay, and yet he also turned around. While not being so enthusiastically supportive of Tiny, Susan Collins has also never crossed him while having spoken in the past less than flattering things about him. So no, Graham is not the sole Republican that has flipped his tone.
    I am not defending Graham. It would not surprise me one bit if the entire story is true. Paraphrasing Christopher Hitchens: if Vlad has pictures of Graham in a Nevada Hotel maxing out his credit cards with an Apache transvestite, I would not blink. But if you write an article about that, you better provide evidence.
    Otherwise, you might as well have written it for the National Enquirer.
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    Gays in congress and the senate. The total number of elected officials is almost 700. That is fairly representative. The percentages of LGBTQ people in the USA are fairly well known. As, for example, is the percentage of atheists. So to believe that in that group there are no gay people is the same as believing there are no unbelievers there. Basically impossible
    All of the GOP is terrified of Tiny and I don't understand why. I can speculate all I want but in the realm of public knowledge there is no reason for them to be so afraid of one man. I do't think they were this terrified of Nixon.

    I kept wondering yesterday why, at this time, did these sex workers decide to do this. Normally I'm against involuntary outing but when I read the posts from these men they all seemed to be saying the same thing; that he has done so much against them that it was time to speak out. I don't know who he ticked off but it's obvious that someone got really angry. Same sex relations are illegal in South Carolina (surprise) and since Washington DC is really a smallish Southern city they may be illegal there too. I don't know. I think he did something and this is the result. Again, this is speculation.
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    A ‘misclassification error’ made the May unemployment rate look better than it is. Here’s what happened.

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    June 6, 2020 at 10:57 a.m. EDT

    When the U.S. government’s official jobs report for May came out on Friday, it included a note at the bottom saying there had been a major “error” indicating that the unemployment rate likely should be higher than the widely reported 13.3 percent rate.

    The special note said that if this “misclassification error” had not occurred, the “overall unemployment rate would have been about 3 percentage points higher than reported,” meaning the unemployment rate would be about 16.3 percent for May. But that would still be an improvement from an unemployment rate of about 19.7 percent for April, applying the same standards.

    The Bureau of Labor Statistics, the agency that puts out the monthly jobs reports, said it was working to fix the problem.

    “BLS and the Census Bureau are investigating why this misclassification error continues to occur and are taking additional steps to address the issue,” said a note at the bottom of the Bureau of Labor Statistics report.

    Some took this as a sign that President Trump or one of his staffers may have tinkered with the data to make it look better, especially since most forecasters predicted the unemployment rate would be close to 20 percent in May, up from 14.7 percent in April. But economists and former BLS leaders from across the political spectrum strongly dismissed that idea.

    “You can 100% discount the possibility that Trump got to the BLS. Not 98% discount, not 99.9% discount, but 100% discount,” tweeted Jason Furman, the former top economist for former president Barack Obama. “BLS has 2,400 career staff of enormous integrity and one political appointee with no scope to change this number.”

    Economists say the BLS was trying to be as transparent as possible about how hard it is to collect real-time data during a pandemic. The BLS admitted that some people who should have been classified as “temporarily unemployed” during the shutdown were instead misclassified as employed but “absent” from work for “other reasons.”

    The “other reason” category is normally used for people on vacation, serving jury duty or taking leave to care for a child or relative. These are typically situations where the worker decides to take leave. But in this unusual pandemic circumstance, the “other reason” category was applied to some people staying at home and waiting to be called back.

    This problem started in March when there was a big jump in people claiming they were temporarily “absent” from work for “other reasons.” The BLS noticed this and flagged it right away. In March, the BLS said the unemployment rate likely should have been 5.4 percent, instead of the official 4.4 percent rate. In April, the BLS said the real unemployment rate was likely about 19.7 percent, not 14.7 percent.

    Economists said the big takeaway is that it’s hard to collect real-time data during a pandemic and that while the unemployment rate remains high — likely more than 16 percent — it has declined a little from April.


    The unemployment rate comes from a survey where Census workers ask about 60,000 households questions about whether they are working or looking for a job the week of May 10 to 16.

    One of the first questions that gets asked is did the person do any work “for pay or profit?” There are then 45 pages of follow up questions that come after that. One of those questions asks if someone was “temporarily absent” from the job and why that absence occurred. One of the responses is “other.”

    The BLS instructed surveyors to try to figure out if someone was absent because of the pandemic and, if so, to classify them as on “temporary layoff,” meaning they would count in the unemployment data. But some people continued to insist they were just “absent” from work during the pandemic, and the BLS has a policy of not changing people’s answers once they are recorded. It’s how the BLS protects against bias or data manipulation.

    Former staffers said it’s unusual that the BLS was not able to correct this problem faster.


    “It’s surprising the BLS couldn’t come up with fixes to make this work in May,” said Erica Groshen, the former BLS commissioner under Obama. But, she adds, “This is a very unusual situation. There are lots of field staff who had a tried and true way of asking questions and they were doing what they were used to doing.”

    The only political appointee at the BLS is the commissioner, who, Groshen said, does not have access to the data and only sees the finalized report.

    “The commissioner never sees the job report before it is final. As commissioner, I did not have access to the underlying data,” Groshen said. “This is a highly automated process.”

    Instead of focusing on possible Trump interference, many economists wish people would focus on the fact that 21 million Americans are currently unemployed and over 2 million have permanently lost their jobs.

    The situation remains dire, they say, even after a few jobs returned in May as the economy reopened.

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