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    CNN did a little poll where 54% of respondents indicated they are unsure if they view Paul Ryan as favorable or unfavorable. The fact that 54% are unsure of their opinion of Paul Ryan constitutes an major, MAJOR part of the problem.
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    I found it interesting how Romney, in his speech introducing Ryan this morning, emphasized Ryan's Catholicism. Catholics supported Obama 54-45 in 2008, according to Pew, and they tend to be the white middle class voters that are essential to Romney's gameplay.

    Ryan's speech this morning was exceptional, I thought. I'd never support a ticket that he is on, but I applaud his ongoing efforts to see that budget shortfalls and historic deficits are discussed. At some point, we need to stop kicking the can down the road.
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    Ryan's speech this morning was exceptional, I thought. I'd never support a ticket that he is on, but I applaud his ongoing efforts to see that budget shortfalls and historic deficits are discussed. At some point, we need to stop kicking the can down the road.
    Bush II inherited a surplus. It was frittered away. I don't think we should forget 2000 - 2008 and act as if the deficits and recession were created by the current administration. We should also not forget that the Congress has blocked everything the President has tried to do.
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    I didn't hear that Romney was due to choose this morning, so when I woke up and turned the TV on to see if NBC is deeming to show any Olympics live, he was giving a speech and the title said (R) Paul Ryan, Vice-Presidential Candidate. And I had no interest for some reason and decided to watch a DVR'd Project Runway instead. I have no energy for this election for some reason.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose View Post
    I'm surprised. I think it is buzz worthy, but I don't think it wins him anything he would not have won on his own.
    On a superficial level, it wins him women.

    I think Paul Ryan might attrack the female version of a Palin supporter. He is going to be pushed as "down-home, honest, idealistic" and he's good looking. I think he's kind of geared to pull away somewhat conservative women who, despite themselves, like Michele Obama and her arms and her vegetable garden.

    And besides the budget, which the Romney base leans toward already, there's nothing else he's really known for other than being in the Tea Party. Which means they can make him to be whatever they want.


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    Just found out about this site, ontheissues.org. Plug in a state and choose a politician to see his/her voting record.

    This is Paul Ryan's page. http://ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm
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    Re: Election 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Moose View Post
    I'd never support a ticket that he is on, but I applaud his ongoing efforts to see that budget shortfalls and historic deficits are discussed. At some point, we need to stop kicking the can down the road.
    You mean like the huge defense spending cuts that were part of the congressional deal last year that Ryan and many others are trying to undo?
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    A Mormon and a Catholic on the ticket is not good for this nations women and gay folks.
    Open wide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owendonovan View Post
    A Mormon and a Catholic on the ticket is not good for this nations women and gay folks.
    Pfft. These days a Republican and a Republican on the ticket isn't good for this nation's women and gay folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Just found out about this site, ontheissues.org. Plug in a state and choose a politician to see his/her voting record.

    This is Paul Ryan's page. http://ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm
    Thanks. Very helpful.

    I think with Ryan's choice of VP, Romney realizes that he badly needs the ultra conservative base in his camp. So he found a good looking ultra conservative Catholic, so now he hopes to have a full range of Republican voters under his sleeve. It is a good move on his part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkus View Post
    Pfft. These days a Republican and a Republican on the ticket isn't good for this nation's women and gay folks.
    Frankly, I think a Republican + Republican is not good for anyone other than 0.4% of the richest folks of this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Bush II inherited a surplus. It was frittered away. I don't think we should forget 2000 - 2008 and act as if the deficits and recession were created by the current administration. We should also not forget that the Congress has blocked everything the President has tried to do.
    Obama and the Dems had a near-historic sized majority in both houses of Congress for his first two years though, Ti, and got most of what he wanted passed those two years.

    I look around, and sadly, I don't see a whole lot of results from those two years, outside of a massive deficit that no one seems devoted to lowering.
    With Bethanie "Sister B" Mattek, Indian Wells, 2012

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    Well, it took the previous administration 8 years to take us to the brink of financial collapse. To expect the President and Democrats to reverse that in only two years is asking quite a bit. Many economists will tell you that the President's accomplishents before Republicans began their obstructionist agenda in 2010 kept this country from a depression that could have rivaled the great depression. Ask the auto industry how it feels about the President's first 2 years.

    We've gone from losing 800,000 jobs a month to 25 straight months of private sector job creation.

    I look around and wonder how much better off we'd be if Republicans main goal was to work on solutions rather than make Obama a one-term president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmm8 View Post
    I have no energy for this election for some reason.
    I hear you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkus View Post

    I look around and wonder how much better off we'd be if Republicans main goal was to work on solutions rather than make Obama a one-term president.
    I'll drink to that.


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