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  1. #9616

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    Because it is 2020 and, why not, let's have a war.
    Three of the four horsemen. We just need a small famine somewhere for the entire group to be here.
    No need - President Trump will soon be on this, netting him his third Nobel Peace Prize nomination, because he loves peace. Or so say his supporters, as they point to the 'peace treaties' in the Middle East between Bahrain, the UAE and Israel (no matter that they were never true combatants against each other). And, with that special relationship he has with Putin, the President is well suited to this task. Just let him get through the debate.
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  2. #9617

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    Nah. He will cede this one to Putin, who is also nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. 2020 is also apparently the year where the nomination process is exposed as a complete joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzNU View Post
    Nah. He will cede this one to Putin, who is also nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. 2020 is also apparently the year where the nomination process is exposed as a complete joke.
    There is the nomination list, which has always been known as a joke because the most ridiculous ones are often leaked. But it's not to be confused with the shortlist, which is not published, rumored about, and is the actual list of contenders.


  4. #9619

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    The nomination process is a joke? The ENTIRE PRIZE IS A JOKE. Some winners:
    Henry Kissinger (you have to be kidding)
    Andrei Sakharov (father of the USSR Hydrogen Bomb)
    Mother Theresa
    The European Union (poli-speak for "Participation Trophy")
    Juan Manuel Santos (for surrendering to the FARC and not obeying the mandate of the Colombian electorate)

    A real worthy prize, and I am not even mentioning Aung San Suu Kyi, who deserves her prize being taken away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    The nomination process is a joke? The ENTIRE PRIZE IS A JOKE. Some winners:
    Henry Kissinger (you have to be kidding)
    Andrei Sakharov (father of the USSR Hydrogen Bomb)
    Mother Theresa
    The European Union (poli-speak for "Participation Trophy")
    Juan Manuel Santos (for surrendering to the FARC and not obeying the mandate of the Colombian electorate)

    A real worthy prize, and I am not even mentioning Aung San Suu Kyi, who deserves her prize being taken away.
    I'm not talking about the peace prize only, but the overall institution

    I would also fight you on Sakharov. He deeply regretted his contribution and fought for nuclear disarmament and for democracy at the cost of being in domestic exile for decades.


  6. #9621

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    Malala Yousafzai was a solid, commendable pick from recent years.
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  7. #9622

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    Rebels from Syria recruited to fight in conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia, source says


    By Kareem Khadder, Gul Tuysuz and Tim Lister, CNN
    Updated 2:02 PM ET, Thu October 1, 2020


    Further evidence is emerging of rebels from Syria being recruited to fight as mercenaries in the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia over the enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh.

    CNN spoke to a Syrian national who has been signed up to travel from northern Syria to Azerbaijan. The man, who declined to provide his real name, said he was living in the Afrin area of northern Syria but was originally from Damascus.

    He said he belonged to a faction of the rebel Syrian National Army, which is backed by Turkey. Its leader had asked those prepared to go to Azerbaijan to register. "I voluntarily did that and 90% of my unit signed up," he told CNN via WhatsApp. "They told us that they will give us $1,500 a month."

    "Our contracts are for three months, and every month we will be getting paid by the unit commander," he said, adding that he didn't know who was funding the operation.

    The fighter contacted by CNN said volunteers were gathering in the Hawar Kilis area near the Syria-Turkey border awaiting transportation. The crossing is controlled by a faction of the Syrian National Army.

    CNN reached out to the Turkish government for a response on whether it is recruiting Syrian fighters to go to Azerbaijan. The Foreign Ministry said they were "baseless allegations."

    The Foreign Ministry in Azerbaijan also denied Syrian fighters were on Azeri soil, and spoke of "a completely false and slanderous smear campaign in some foreign media, allegedly in connection with the import of fighters from Syria to Azerbaijan." It said Armenia was behind the allegations.

    The fighter contacted by CNN, a father of three, said his family was living below the poverty line. He was prepared to travel to Azerbaijan "because of the money, and all the world knows that the Syrians living here are dying of hunger."

    To begin with, the man thought the volunteers would be involved in guard duty "but after the first batch of fighters went to Azerbaijan, we learned it was about fighting like the fighting in Syria and Libya."

    "We learned it's war and not work for a security company," he said.

    The man said he had heard that "around 1,000 fighters or more" had been signed up. "None of my relatives have went in the first batch, but I know guys who went in the first batch," he told CNN. He had also heard that some Syrians had been killed in Azerbaijan.

    The man, who used to be a carpenter, said he wanted life to return to normal and was only going to Azerbaijan for the money.
    "I wish that the war will stop in Azerbaijan and Armenia but the only work is security work and that way I still can provide food and living for my children."

    CNN reported earlier this year that dozens of Syrian rebels had been recruited by Turkish military contractors to fight on behalf of the transitional government in Libya.

    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in February that members of the Syrian National Army had gone to Libya to support the government.


    Kareem Khadder reported from Jerusalem and Gul Tuysuz reported from Istanbul. Tim Lister wrote in Cordoba.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/middl...ntl/index.html

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    #Belarus #Minsk Great video that shows the scale of the rally. There were several crowds of protesters who couldn't join because security forces didn't allow to do so.Nevertheless,at least 100,000 people came out to the streets again. They demanded political prisoners be released

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1312822984160272387
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    ‘An End to the Chapter of Dictatorship’: Chileans Vote to Draft a New Constitution
    Voters overwhelmingly approved a bid to scrap the charter inherited from Gen. Augusto Pinochet’s dictatorship, a move that could set a new course for the country.

    By Pascale Bonnefoy
    Published Oct. 25, 2020
    Updated Oct. 26, 2020, 12:39 a.m. ET


    Chileans waiting in line to vote. Turnout appeared to be high.Credit...Javier Torres/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

    SANTIAGO, Chile — The protests started over a small hike in metro fares, then exploded into a broad reckoning over inequality that shook Chile for weeks. Hundreds of thousands of demonstrators poured into the streets, calling for sweeping change in their society, with higher wages and pensions, better health care and education.

    The movement soon seized on a vehicle for their demands: Chile’s Constitution.

    The existing charter, drafted without popular input during the military dictatorship of Gen. Augusto Pinochet and approved in a fraudulent plebiscite in 1980, was widely blamed for blocking change — and seen as a lingering link to a grim chapter in Chile’s history.

    On Sunday, just over a year after the massive demonstrations swept the nation, Chileans voted to scrap the dictatorship-era document and write a new one — a process that could transform the politics of a country that has long been regarded as one of the most stable and prosperous in Latin America.

    With 100 percent of the ballots counted, voters approved the referendum in a landslide victory, and 78 percent voted in favor of a new Constitution.

    “This plebiscite is not the end; it is the beginning of a path we should all undertake together,” President Sebastián Piñera said in an address from the presidential palace.

    “Until now, the Constitution has divided us,” he added. “As of today, we should all cooperate to make the new Constitution become one home for all of us.”

    Until the protests last year, the idea of a new Constitution “wasn’t on anyone’s agenda,” said Lucía Dammert, a political scientist and board member of the research center Espacio Público. “The fact we are now discussing a new Constitution is a victory of the social movement.”

    The vote, originally scheduled for April, was postponed as Chile went on lockdown during the pandemic. Now, with most of the capital, Santiago, and other areas gradually opening up, voter turnout was high.

    Thousands of people flocked to the Plaza Italia in Santiago to celebrate on Sunday night, chanting, dancing, waving flags and setting off fireworks. Demonstrators unfurled banners addressed to Pinochet, with messages like “Goodbye, General,” and “Erasing your legacy will be our legacy.”

    “Today, citizenship and democracy have prevailed, and peace has prevailed over violence,” Mr. Piñera said. “This is a victory for all Chileans.”

    On Sunday morning, Chileans turned out in droves to participate. Throughout the country, voters in masks ringed block after block in calm, orderly lines.

    After transitioning to democracy in 1990, Chile’s market-friendly business environment, framed in part by the Constitution, attracted foreign investment. The country grew consistently and saw poverty go down. But this came at the cost of an acute concentration of wealth and growing inequality. Last year, the United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America estimated that nearly a quarter of total income goes to 1 percent of Chile’s population.

    To cover the high cost of living, Chileans are greatly indebted. The Central Bank found last year that on average nearly three-fourths of household income was used to pay debt. The public health care and education systems are in shambles, and meager pensions force most people of retirement age to continue working.

    Amalia Gómez, 66, barely gets by on a $125 monthly pension and picks up seamstress jobs to compensate. She and many others like her see a new Constitution as a path to better lives and a more equitable country for future generations.

    “Why not, if we are a country rich in minerals, fish, agriculture?” she said. “Why can’t we use those resources to our benefit, for our education and health?”

    Sunday’s ballot asks voters whether they want a new Constitution, and who should draft it: a body of only newly elected representatives or a convention in which half of the delegates would be members of Congress.

    Voters overwhelmingly opted for a newly elected constitutional convention, without automatic inclusion of Congress members. Elections will be held in April to choose the delegates, among whom there must be gender parity. Political factions are still negotiating whether to reserve seats for Indigenous delegates.

    Chileans are now scheduled to vote in 2022 to approve or reject the Constitution the convention drafts.

    As the nation geared up for voting, tensions were high.

    After last year’s immense protests — known as the “estallido,” or explosion — rocked the country, the pandemic sent demonstrators home for much of 2020. Timid protests returned last month, leading to clashes between demonstrators and the police.

    In one protest on Oct. 2, a police officer pushed a teenager off a bridge and into the bed of the Mapocho River in Santiago. The teenager survived with fractures, and the officer was charged with attempted murder and expelled from the force.

    Last Sunday, tens of thousands flocked to the protests’ epicenter, Plaza Italia, to commemorate the anniversary of the uprising. The demonstration was largely peaceful, but late in the afternoon small groups set fire to two churches, including one used by the police for religious services.

    Last year’s demonstrations often devolved into violence and were met with police brutality. The Public Prosecutor’s Office received 8,827 reports of human rights violations, including hundreds of complaints of permanent eye damage from rubber bullets; two people lost their sight completely.

    By early last November, the clashes had left five people dead and nearly 1,800 wounded. Mr. Piñera was facing competing calls to deploy the armed forces to restore order — or to resign. Instead, he announced he was willing to open the process for a new Constitution — an idea that sharply divided his own party.

    The 1980 Constitution has undergone several changes since it was drafted behind closed doors by a Pinochet-appointed commission. The most significant shift, in 2005, eliminated major authoritarian provisions.

    Still, many Chileans saw Sunday’s vote as highly symbolic.

    It “means putting an end to the chapter of dictatorship,” said Hernán Becker, 58, a salesman who participated in a demonstration last Sunday. “Its origin is totally illegitimate: under military rule, with no freedom of expression, no freedom of assembly.”

    Rewriting the charter will also allow greater flexibility for Chile to make the economic and policy changes demanded by protesters.

    Under the current charter, new laws may be subjected to scrutiny by a constitutional tribunal, which has the final say on whether they pass muster. And laws that touch on education policy, political parties, the military, the electoral system, mining and reforming the Constitution, among other topics, require a supermajority for approval.

    Several provisions make altering the free market model enacted under military rule nearly impossible, experts said.

    “Chile’s Constitution is neoliberal in nature, and its basic role is to guarantee conditions for the free market, even in traditional social areas such as education, health and social security,” said Fernando Atria, a law professor specializing in constitutional matters. “What we need is a Constitution that guarantees social rights more than market conditions.”

    While the proposal to write a new Constitution enjoys widespread support, opponents say it would be a mistake to scrap a charter that has been instrumental in Chile’s economic success.

    “It guarantees freedom, protects individuals from the excesses of the state, ensures the protection of property and guarantees social rights,” said Gerardo Jofré, a businessman and one of the directors of the Independents for Rejection campaign. “Those who are rebelling in Chile don’t want to change the Constitution, they want to change the model, and that is a monumental mistake.”
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