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  1. #8536

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Uh, what is this Canadians?
    Welcome to the Doug Ford Ontario government - similar to Trump but most of the racial overtones have been removed. Same stupidity, and callousness. Blame the media for everything that goes wrong. Slash and burn policy to public institutions.

    Basically what happened is that Ontario had been under a Liberal government for about 15 years and people were tired of it. There had been the usual level of scandal and such, and public finances were not in great shape. The election was set up for a Conservative win, and the incoming premier was making a lot of good noises with policy announces - including a Carbon Tax. The Tories have had a series of very winnable elections before last year, but they always seemed to find a way to lose it. A few years ago it was John Tory (now mayor of Toronto) who proposed equal funding for religious schools (Ontario has two school system - Public & Catholic - that are both publicly funded) and that idea was tremendously unpopular, and the Liberals won another term. After that Tim Hudak became leader and during the next election he decided to announce that he was going to lay off a million public servants. Well you can imagine how well that went over with the unions, so the Liberals got another term. That brings us Patrick Brown, who, as I mentioned, was setting up a nice easy election win with a pretty centrist platform until a sex scandal forced him to resign hastily. I went to work one day and Brown was the leader, and when I came home from work at 11 pm Brown had just held a news conference and resigned.

    This set up the need for a new leader because the election was schedule for June last year, and Brown resigned in February. So a short and quick leadership race was convened and Doug Ford (brother of late Rob Ford, and a failed Toronto mayoral candidate) joined the race. He was not the favourite, but the Progressive Conservative party has a quirky way of electing leaders - or at least they did last year. They wanted a leader who could appeal to voters from all over the province, so instead of a delegated convention (traditional way of electing leaders in Canadian politics) or a one member one vote system they decided to have all ridings (electoral districts) in the province have equal weight in choosing the leader. Each riding was given a 100 points to be disrupted to the leadership candidates based on the percentage of the vote they received. It was also a ranked preferential ballot, so votes would move to the 2nd or 3rd choice as candidates were eliminated. This sounds good in theory but in reality it means that the candidate who could appeal to voters in Liberal & NDP ridings was more likely to win. The fewer number of members of the party in those ridings meant that they could swing the vote heavily in favour of one candidate or other, and that's what happened. So despite the fact that Christine Elliot won the majority of votes - 51%+ - Doug Ford's support was more spread out and that carried the day. Sound familiar.

    So that was early March of last year and with the election in June there wasn't a lot of time for voters to recognize the change in leadership and decide to switch parties. There was a surge of support for the NDP to make them the Official Opposition, but the Progressive Conservatives easily won a majority government. So the Doug Ford government has just finished its first year in office, and it is hugely unpopular. They've been making cuts and its just not going well. They made big changes to how autism funding was done leading to protests and angry parents. They cancelled a contract for beer sales in the province which is expected to cost the province a billion dollars, and just this week announced they were laying off 400+ people who work in health care management. Opinion polls have them down to 3rd behind both the Liberals and the NDP, and Doug decide that it was his Cabinet's fault so he moved the more Progressive members out of prominent positions (including Caroline Mulroney - daughter of the former Prime Minister) and replace them with people who are more likely to support the Premier's decisions. Again, sound familiar.

  2. #8537

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    Skating I'm so sorry!
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  3. #8538

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    Sounds all kinds of bad. Silver lining it's only a provincial government.
    Roger forever

  4. #8539

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    Somebody please post ONE story about a government somewhere that is not a POS. Anywhere. Nepal, Cartago, Bora Bora, Pedro Bermudez' island.
    This thread is quickly becoming as depressing as the DESCENT TO HADES one.
    Starry starry night

  5. #8540

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    Swiss government seems perfectly fine
    Roger forever

  6. #8541

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    Quote Originally Posted by suliso View Post
    Sounds all kinds of bad. Silver lining it's only a provincial government.
    Yes, that's true, but provincial governments in Canada do all the important governing - education, healthcare, municipal regulations, social services. The bright spot in all this is that its making what seemed like a sure bet Federal Election win for the Conservative Party less and less certain. Ontario is the largest pool of voters - 40% of Canadian live in Ontario - we decide who governs the country, and the Doug Ford government is tarnishing the federal Conservative party of Andrew Scheer.

    Doug Ford's reception at the Raptors Parade.

  7. #8542

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Skating I'm so sorry!
    Thanks.

  8. #8543

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    Quote Originally Posted by dryrunguy View Post
    I'm sure he is equally concerned about the humans in the Mars rover...
    Meet again we do, old foe...

  9. #8544

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    BBC Politics
    ‏Verified account
    @BBCPolitics

    Liam Fox on Boris Johnson’s ‘GATT 24’ #Brexit claims: “It isn’t true, that’s the problem”

    The trade secretary tells #Marr that the argument from Boris Johnson, that we can use world trade rules to avoid tariffs after Brexit, “isn’t true”

    http://bbc.in/2tnzxS0
    pic.twitter.com/a5LfXyritH
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  10. #8545

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    Czechs stage biggest anti-government protest since communist era
    Michael Kahn



    PRAGUE (Reuters) - Czechs turned out in their thousands on Sunday in Prague to call for the ousting of Prime Minister Andrej Babis, in the biggest show of public discontent since the 1989 Velvet Revolution which overthrew Communism.

    The rally in Letna park was the culmination of a series of demonstrations in recent weeks against Babis, who has faced investigations over alleged fraud and conflicts of interest.

    Organizers said they believed that about 250,000 people had attended Sunday’s rally, from all around the country, but this figure could not be verified.

    Some carried banners saying “Resign”, “We’ve had enough”, and others waved Czech or EU flags. Many families brought children to the protest, which was peaceful so far as were other recent protests against both Babis and his justice minister.

    Police proposed in April that Babis, a billionaire businessman-turned-politician sometimes likened to U.S. President Donald Trump, should be formally charged for fraud in tapping a European Union subsidy a decade ago to build a hotel and conference center outside Prague. He denies any wrongdoing.

    The appointment of a new justice minister just after the police announcement prompted rallies by demonstrators suspicious that Babis was trying to influence proceedings. Babis has also vigorously denied that claim.

    Filip Rubas, who joined protests in 1989 against the then communist regime, said he turned out on Sunday to send a message to politicians that they will be held accountable.

    “We think that our leaders need to be reminded very strongly that they do not own our country, that they are not above the law (or constitution) and that there are still enough caring people who are not brainwashed by hateful propaganda,” said Rubas, 50.

    He traveled to the rally with his wife and a group of friends from Brno, the country’s second city, 200km from Prague.

    Sunday’s protest was organized by civic group Million Moments for Democracy, founded by students. Politicians were not invited to speak at the rally which began at around 16.30 (1430 GMT).

    Babis suffered another setback from leaked preliminary results of an audit by the European Commission, which determined he is in conflict of interest as the beneficiary of trust funds where he had transferred his business valued at $3.7 billion by Forbes.

    Babis insists the audit is wrong and this would be proven in the final conclusions, expected late this year or early in 2020.

    Babis has said people have the right to protest but has firmly refused to step down. His populist ANO movement remains the most popular party, although its support has dipped slightly in the past two months to 27.5%, according to a poll by Kantar agency released on June 9.

    Babis also has enough backing in parliament, where a no-confidence vote planned for the next week is likely to fail.

    Writing by by Jan Lopatka; Editing by Susan Fenton


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKCN1TO0NI
    "Even if you dance for your enemy on the rock, he will accuse you of splashing water on him." ~ African Proverb




  11. #8546

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    BBC Politics
    ‏Verified account
    @BBCPolitics

    Liam Fox on Boris Johnson’s ‘GATT 24’ #Brexit claims: “It isn’t true, that’s the problem”

    The trade secretary tells #Marr that the argument from Boris Johnson, that we can use world trade rules to avoid tariffs after Brexit, “isn’t true”

    http://bbc.in/2tnzxS0
    pic.twitter.com/a5LfXyritH
    What? Where does he come up with this stuff? If there were GATT rules to avoid tariffs wouldn't every country use them?

  12. #8547

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    Can we agree that we live in an era that, for lack of a better term, can be defined as POST TRUTH?
    POST FACT?
    POST EVIDENCE?

    It was the ultimate slipper slope. It started with ALL POLITICIANS LIE. Will we reach a stage of ALL POLITICS ARE LIES? How do we then decide on policies?
    Starry starry night

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