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  1. #2926

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    ...and Phelps lost another one of his records today - two this week.

  2. #2927

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastbackss View Post
    ...and Phelps lost another one of his records today - two this week.
    And that's without the teenager at Worlds that they were anticipating will break it. Phelps only has one world record remaining.

  3. #2928

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    After Two Deaths Days Apart, Boxing Examines Its Risks

    Maxim Dadashev in his corner just before officials halted the July 19 fight because of his injuries. Dadashev died four days later.
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    By Scott Cacciola
    Aug. 7, 2019

    SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. — Pat English, a lawyer with long and influential ties to boxing, was delivering a history lesson on various federal guidelines for the sport when he flashed a black-and-white photograph of a young fighter.

    The boxer’s name was Stephan Johnson, a junior middleweight who had fought three times (and most likely sustained at least one brain injury) in the seven months leading up to his United States Boxing Association title fight against Paul Vaden in November 1999. Johnson was under a medical suspension that was not recognized by some local boxing commissions, and despite his trainer’s objections he was eager to return to the ring so he could earn enough money to move his mother out of public housing.

    Johnson lost the fight, and his life. Knocked out in the 10th round, he was rushed to a hospital where surgeons drilled two holes in his skull. He died two weeks later at 31.

    English, who was at that fight, recalled some of those details last week as he spoke at a meeting of the people who regulate the sport and are grappling with fresh tragedies that feel too familiar.

    Two boxers died days apart last month after sustaining brain injuries in the ring. Maxim Dadashev, a 28-year-old Russian, died on July 23, four days after a light welterweight fight in Maryland. Hugo Alfredo Santillán, a 23-year-old Argentine, died on July 25, five days after collapsing at the end of a lightweight fight in Buenos Aires. Santillán had fought to a draw.

    Their deaths framed conversations at the annual meeting of the Association of Boxing Commissions, where directors of state and tribal commissions examined policies central to boxing and other combat sports they supervise at a local level. They touched on drug testing, concussion protocols and even social media decorum for referees (the primary message there: Don’t tweet dumb stuff). But the discussions kept returning to a basic idea: Boxing is inherently dangerous, and fighters depend on the rules to prevent the worst possible injuries.

    “Sometimes I wonder why I’m doing this for a living,” Mike Mazzulli, the departing president of the A.B.C., said in a telephone interview after the meeting in Scottsdale. “But if I’m not doing it, no one will.”

    The regulators, and others in the sport, are still seeking answers.

    “This is a time where we all need to go back to the drawing board and understand what is happening,” Mauricio Sulaiman, the president of the World Boxing Council, said in a speech at the meeting. “Because something is happening.”

    Sulaiman, whose organization sanctioned Santillán’s deadly fight, continued: “Any boxer who goes to the ring is willing to do whatever he has to do to win — whatever he has to do to be successful and make money for his family. If you ask him to fight 20 rounds, he will do whatever it takes. They’re warriors. It’s our duty to protect them from themselves.”

    That’s quite a demand for the people Sulaiman addressed. Boxing is not synonymous with health and safety.

    “People are going to get hurt, and people are going to die,” Dr. Michael Schwartz, a co-chairman of the medical advisory committee for the A.B.C., said while speaking about the liability issues involved in practicing ringside medicine. “But we’re here to do everything we can to minimize those risks.”

    One area where the sport can improve, regulators said, is oversight of how boxers cut weight before fights.

    The former light heavyweight world champion Andre Ward, who last fought in 2017, said on the day Santillán died that it was crucial to do more monitoring of rapid weight loss just before bouts — and of the resulting dehydration.

    “Lack of fluid around the brain increases the risk of a brain bleed,” Ward tweeted.

    One of the biggest changes we can bring in the sport of boxing is the weight-in process. Either go back to same day weight-ins, or allow IV’s to be administered in every state leaglly. Lack of fluid around the brain increases the risk of a brain bleed.

    — Andre S.O.G. Ward (@andreward) July 25, 2019

    Because weigh-ins typically happen the day before the fight, boxers spend about 24 hours regaining as much weight as possible. But their bodies cannot absorb fluids again in such a short period of time, often leaving fighters dehydrated — a condition that can hurt vital organs and leave the brain less protected than usual.

    The W.B.C. introduced a pilot program this year that called for more weigh-ins in the days and weeks leading up to fights, plus one final weigh-in on the day of the fight itself to gauge just how many pounds each boxer was gaining at essentially the last minute.

    Andy Foster, the executive officer of the California State Athletic Commission, has been charting the weight fluctuations of boxers in his state. His findings: Of 1,594 boxers studied in a three-year period through 2018, 306 had gained more than 10 percent of their body weight in the roughly 24 hours before their fights.

    Foster shook his head when sharing that information and said he supposed that ignoring his findings would be easier than the alternative.

    “But I don’t want it to be easier,” he said. “I now know this information, so we have to do something with it.”

    Foster said he was going to start canceling more fights. A weight gain of 15 percent or more? Fight is off. He said the California commission had asked him to draft language to that effect so that the members could bring it to a vote in October. Foster acknowledged that calling off a fight would be extremely difficult.

    “You’re pushed against the wall by the promoter, and you’ve got 18,000 people sitting around looking at you,” he said. “But I don’t just think this stuff is dangerous — I know it.”

    Schwartz emphasized the severity of the problem in boxing. Generally, he said, rapid weight loss below even 10 percent could be fatal.

    “In the real world, we’re talking about potential death at 5 to 7 percent” because of dehydration, Schwartz said, contrasting that with fighters’ cutting 15 percent or more of their body weight.

    Schwartz recalled reviewing some paperwork before a recent bout in Connecticut. A boxer who was scheduled to fight in a month had undergone a physical examination that listed his weight at 212 pounds. He was supposed to fight at 185 pounds.

    “If we know that ahead of time, why are we even allowing them to get into that weight class?” he asked.

    One of the major criticisms from fans after Santillán’s fight was that it took a long time for him to get medical attention; he collapsed in the ring after needing help to stand for several minutes while the decision was read.

    Boxing has long struggled with the fact that many of its events are managed locally, leading to lapses in communication and differences in rules. The A.B.C. has tried to curb some of those issues, in part by teaming up with BoxRec, a statistical database. Mazzulli said the number of boxers fighting while on suspension, as Johnson did in 1999, had declined drastically in recent years, to below 1 percent.

    Near the end of the convention, Mazzulli wanted to revisit the death of Dadashev in Maryland. From his point of view, he said, it was hard to see what anyone had done wrong during the bout itself. Dadashev’s cornerman, Buddy McGirt, had gone so far as stepping in to stop the fight when it was clear to him that his fighter was taking too much punishment.

    So what, Mazzulli asked, can the sport learn from these twin tragedies? Where would it go from here?

    Schwartz said being able to gather more information ahead of fights would be helpful.

    “We don’t know what happened in the gym,” Schwartz said, speaking of boxers in general. “We don’t know how much weight he cut. We don’t know if he was concussed during training. This is probably the most difficult part of your job: How do we get that information? How do we get the fighters and corners and managers to be truthful?”

    A version of this article appears in print on Aug. 7, 2019, Section B, Page 9 of the New York edition with the headline: It’s Not a Fight To the Death.
    There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.”

    ― Frank Zappa

  4. #2929

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    This is a rant that is basically about international volleyball, but I'm using it as a way to make a point about punishment for overt cheating. I was reminded of this incident by the fact that qualification tournaments for the Tokyo Olympics are underway.

    Last September, in the later rounds of the FIVB World Men's Volleyball Championships, a now-famous incident occurred. It was in the 5th set of a match between Brazil and Russia. The score was 14-11 with Brazil ahead and therefore having 3 match points (the 5th set is to 15, must win by 2). During that point, it appeared that Brazil had the point won, then Russia made an impressive save and it looked as if the point would be won by Russia. At that moment, the Brazilian coach rolled a ball onto the court, thereby requiring the point to be stopped. He claimed it was an accident, but the replays made it look VERY intentional. Anyway, he ended up being punished with a suspension for 5 international matches involving his Brazilian team.

    So.....analyzing the situation: Was anyone endangered by his action? If so, only his own players, since he rolled the ball onto their side of the court. Did it affect the outcome of the match? Probably not.....his team did lose the replay of that point, but won the next point to win 15-12 in that set. Statistically, his team would have likely won one of those 3 match points. Was it in fact intentional? While maybe it is hard to be absolutely sure on this, having seen all replays, I think it was clearly intentional. Was it well thought out in advance? Probably not, even to the point that I would suspect it was an action that he didn't think through, even at the moment he did it.

    So, should he have been punished? ABSOLUTELY. Was his punishment proportional to the degree of the crime? I say "emphatically yes."

    My takeaway on this story was that FIVB actually got this one exactly right. And I wish they would teach a lesson to the ruling organizations of other sports. As you folks know, one of my frequent rants is about cheating or other bad behaviors being very under-penalized, to the point that the penalty does not prevent said cheating or behavior being repeated. Having spent over 40 years very involved in the sport of figure skating, and having sworn off any contact with the sport due to the repeated, flagrant, and un-punished cheating, this is a very sensitive subject to me.

    The need for stricter punishment is obvious in any number of sports. So about tennis....We've discussed the fact that the punishments he has received have not gotten through to Nick Kyrgios. Obviously, the punishment for breaking a racket is not severe enough, since we have several entrants into our racket-smashing tournament every week. Many other examples could be given.

    And in other sports.....just one example of many: Tom Brady was suspended for 4 games for trying to fix the game that determined that his team would go to the Super Bowl. Surely that is a FAR greater transgression than what this volleyball coach did. And while there was no contrition in either case, at least the punishment in the volleyball case probably got that coach's attention big-time.

    Enough of a rant. I'm still in my "need to talk about anything other than gun control just now" mood since the shooting in Dayton.


  5. #2930

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    Glenn I'm shocked you don't worship at the altar of TOM BRADY!!!!

    You mention Kyrgios but what about every non English speaking player who is coached through a match and no one says anything because most of the officials and the chair have no idea what's being said. Tsitsipas "conversations" with his father during his last match should've been called out but it wasn't. And remember Henin and Carlos Rodriguez?

    It's been a problem in tennis for a long time and it doesn't appear anything is going to be done about it.
    There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.”

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  6. #2931

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    Ti, Agree with your comments completely. There are any number of examples of inadequate punishment for overt violations of rules and etiquette. Figure skating makes it an industry, but many sports have very un-clean noses relative to this subject.


  7. #2932

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    This is why history is so important. I'm willing to bet UEFA had no idea what this sign meant and the history it referenced.

    Super Greek
    Trabzonspor fans mock Greek team AEK with a “Can you swim” sign in a UEL qualifier.

    The sign references the Smyrna Massacre 1922, a genocidal cleansing of Turkey where 100,000 innocent Greeks/ Armenians were killed as planned fires forced them into the sea.

    Disgraceful. @UEFA

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  8. #2933

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    Tyler Skaggs’ autopsy: Fentanyl, oxycodone and alcohol led to death by choking on vomit

    Los Angeles Angels starting pitcher Tyler Skaggs towels off before a game against the Minnesota Twins on May 11, 2018, in Anaheim.(Gina Ferazzi / Los Angeles Times)

    AUG. 30, 2019 1 PM
    Angels pitcher Tyler Skaggs had the opioids fentanyl and oxycodone along with alcohol in his system when he was found dead in his Texas hotel room July 1, according to a toxicology report released Friday by the Tarrant County medical examiner’s office.

    The cause of death is listed as a mixture of “alcohol, fentanyl and oxycodone intoxication with terminal aspiration of gastric contents,” meaning Skaggs, 27, essentially choked on his vomit while under the influence. The death, according to the report, was ruled an accident. He was found on his bed, fully clothed, and there were no signs of trauma.

    The Southlake, Texas, Police Department is investigating the death, and a statement from Skaggs’ family issued Friday mentions that an Angels employee may have some involvement.

    The statement: “We are heartbroken to learn that the passing of our beloved Tyler was the result of a combination of dangerous drugs and alcohol. That is completely out of character for someone who worked so hard to become a Major League Baseball player and had a very promising future in the game he loved so much.

    “We are grateful for the work of the detectives in the Southlake Police Department and their ongoing investigation into the circumstances surrounding Tyler’s death. We were shocked to learn that it may involve an employee of the Los Angeles Angels. We will not rest until we learn the truth about how Tyler came into possession of these narcotics, including who supplied them. To that end, we have hired attorney Rusty Hardin to assist us.”

    The Angels were staying at a hotel in Southlake ahead of a three-game series against the Texas Rangers. The team arrived the evening of Sunday, June 30, and Skaggs’ body was found in his room at approximately 2:18 p.m. the next day after he didn’t report to the ballpark on time.

    What authorities learned about Skaggs’ hotel room is not publicly known because police reports have not been released. The L.A Times and other news outlets requested police, fire department and emergency medical services records related to the incident, but an attorney representing the city of Southlake asked the Texas attorney general whether many of the records are exempt from disclosure. No decision has been reached.

    The Southlake attorney said in the letter to the state attorney general that release of some of the materials requested could “interfere with the detection, investigation or prosecution of crime.”

    Fentanyl is a powerful synthetic opioid similar to morphine but 50 to 100 times more potent on a weight-by-weight basis. When taken in uncontrolled concentrations by unsuspecting users, or by users whose opioid tolerance has not been heightened by long-term use, the drug is more likely even than prescription opioids to suppress respiration and cause death.

    Blood tests showed 3.8 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl in Skaggs’ system, which experts said is a significant amount but not outrageously high. Autopsy blood tests have shown nanograms per millileter levels of over 100.

    Toxicology report on Tyler Skaggs from the Tarrant County Medical Examiner's Office.(Tarrant County Medical Examiner’s Office)

    “The level of fentanyl is a significant amount that could produce death,” said Cyril Wecht, a Pittsburgh forensic pathologist with 40 years of experience. “In this case, oxycodone and alcohol were also present and would have contributed to the death because they are also central nervous system depressants.”

    The autopsy report noted the absence of norfentanyl, a metabolite of fentanyl, which Wecht said “means that fentanyl was ingested not long before death occurred.”

    Tests showed 38 nanograms per milliliter of the prescription-strength pain killer oxycodone, the use of which is prohibited by Major League Baseball’s Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program, and a blood-alcohol level of 0.122%. A 0.08% limit is considered legally impaired. Fentanyl is not specifically listed on MLB’s banned substance list, but as a “drug of abuse” on the federal Drug Enforcement Administration list, its use is automatically prohibited by MLB.

    The Skaggs family recently retained the services of renowned Houston criminal defense attorney Russell “Rusty” Hardin to represent them. Skaggs was on a one-year contract for $3.7 million in his second year of arbitration. He would have been eligible for free agency after the 2020 season.

    Hardin has represented and won favorable verdicts for athletes such as Roger Clemens, who was accused of lying before Congress over alleged steroid use; Warren Moon, Scottie Pippen, Rudy Tomjanovich and Wade Boggs.

    “I think the thing to keep in mind is they’re just still so devastated, both the wife and the family, about this young man’s death, and they just want to know what happened and how it happened,” Hardin said by phone from his Houston office. “We’re going to want to know how it came about that those drugs were ingested and whether or not others are responsible for what happened.”

    Hardin said he has seen the autopsy report but has not seen police reports or spoken to investigators about the case. He said it’s “way too early for us to speculate” on whether there are grounds for legal action.

    “You know, if you lose a son, or a husband, or a spouse, it’s just a tremendously horrible experience, and you want to know how it happened,” Hardin said. “So that’s where the family is right now. How did it happen? Was anyone else involved? They just want to get answers.”

    Skaggs was found unconscious two days after his final pitching performance June 29, three days before he was scheduled to make his next start. His body was clad in black denim jeans, a decorated belt and dark brown western boots when it arrived at the medical examiner’s office, according to the autopsy report. The outfit appears to be the same one Skaggs wore June 30, when he coordinated a western-themed trip to Texas to celebrate his team’s back-to-back series against the Rangers and Houston Astros.

    Skaggs was one of the most popular players in the clubhouse, and he was also one of the Angels’ most reliable pitchers this season, going 7-7 with a 4.29 ERA in 79 2/3 innings across 15 starts. He was 28-38 with a 4.41 ERA during a seven-year major-league career that was interrupted by an elbow surgery in 2014 and several other injuries in subsequent years.

    The onslaught of injuries pushed Skaggs last offseason. He worked out with mobility coach Sarah Howard in Los Angeles and consulted with renowned strength coach Eric Cressey in Florida. Only two minor ailments slowed Skaggs in 2019: He experienced soreness in his forearm after experimenting with a new pitch during spring training and missed a start; and he rolled his ankle in an April game against the Chicago Cubs, leading to a 10-day injured list stint.

    Skaggs’ death rocked the baseball world. Players around the league saluted Skaggs by etching his initials and jersey number onto their hats and into the dirt on mounds. Teammate Andrew Heaney opened his first start after Skaggs’ death by throwing Skaggs’ signature curveball.

    Tributes continued in the July 9 All-Star game in Cleveland, where Angels Mike Trout and Tommy La Stella wore Skaggs’ number underneath their last names and others wore No. 45 patches like the ones the Angels have worn since Skaggs’ death.

    The Angels paid homage to their late teammate in their first home game following his death by donning No. 45 jerseys with the name “SKAGGS” on the back in a July 12 game against Seattle. His mother, Debbie, followed a 45-second moment of silence by throwing a strike for the ceremonial first pitch, which was caught by Heaney.

    Taylor Cole and Felix Pena threw the second combined no-hitter in franchise history that night in a 13-0 rout of the Mariners, Cole opening with two perfect innings and Pena following with seven no-hit innings. After the final out, players shed their jerseys and arranged them on the mound before saying a prayer. They left the jerseys there as they departed the field.

    “You can’t make this stuff up,” Trout said after driving in six runs and noting that the Angels scored seven runs in the first inning and 13 overall and faced 28 batters on the day before Skaggs would have turned 28. His birthday was July 13, or 7/13. “Tonight was in honor of him, and he was definitely looking over us.”

    The Angels have set up Skaggs’ locker in every stadium they have visited since his death. Clubhouse managers even made him a throwback jersey when the Angels celebrated 1970s weekend and acquired the necessary materials in Houston last week to customize his Players Weekend jerseys with the nickname he chose for the festivities — “Slick.”

    Many of Skaggs’ friends dedicated their Players Weekend jerseys last week in his memory, including Nationals pitcher Patrick Corbin, who was drafted by the Angels in the same year as Trout and Skaggs and was traded with Skaggs to the Arizona Diamondbacks in 2010.

    In a memorial service at St. Monica Catholic Church in Santa Monica last month, hundreds paid tribute to a man described as passionate and caring. Skaggs’ wife, Carli, spoke of their love. His mother listened from the front pew as family members and Skaggs’ closest confidants shared their goofiest — and most heart-rending — memories.

    Times staff writer Nathan Fenno contributed to this report.
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    Kinda knew it had to be something like that, because 26 year olds rarely die of natural causes.

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  10. #2935

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    So even though the police have said it was an accidental overdose, the wife and family want to pretend that he wasn't an addict, want to try to drum up a criminal investigation to place blame on someone instead of admitting the truth and have hired a costly attorney to try to take on the MLB and the Angels in the process? Well that's one way to waste what's left of his comparably low MLB salary.

  11. #2936

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    Fentanyl, oxycodone and alcohol led to death by choking on vomit
    That is a brutal epitaph to have.

  12. #2937

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    Graeme Joffe
    The credibility of the SA Institute for Drug-Free Sport (SAIDS) is once again under the microscope. A Nigerian athlete 'tested positive' and was suspended after his sample was allegedly switched with that of a top SA athlete. SAIDS won't comment!
    needs to intervene!

    In an effort to cover their tracks, SAIDS contacted the Nigerian athlete and said they’ve decided to organize a re-hearing for him because he was not an international athlete. What? The athlete has competed in International comps and has now missed 3 events due to suspension!

    ‘SAIDS is doing everything possible to make sure this case is not heard by the Court of Arbitration for Sport. They are pulling strings everywhere possible.’ - There needs to be justice for the wronged athlete and the dirty SAIDS and ASA officials need to be held accountable!

    This case could have some far reaching consequences and needs serious attention but is getting none. SAIDS is not clean and has some corrupt and conflicted officials sitting on its board of directors!
    @wada_ama @iaaforg @Scienceofsport @athleticsafrica
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    There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.”

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    That was one of the two in July that made the headlines.
    A Canadian Slam winner? Inconceivable!

  15. #2940

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    Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher Felipe Vazquez arrested for child solicitation
    SEP 17, 2019 | 12:39 PM

    Pittsburgh Pirates closer Felipe Vazquez was arrested in Pennsylvania and accused of a continuing relationship with a then-13-year-old Florida girl.

    Vazquez, 28, came under investigation by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in August after agents received a tip that he was having a sexual relationship with the now-15-year-old Lee County victim, beginning when she was 13.

    The pitcher allegedly sent the victim a video in July “in which he is shown performing a sex act” and texted her suggesting they meet for sex after the baseball season was over, according to a statement from the FDLE obtained by the Daily News.

    Agents seized several electronic devices from Vazquez’s apartment after serving a search warrant Tuesday.

    Vazquez was charged with one count of computer pornography — solicitation of a child and one count of providing obscene material to minors and is being held at the Allegheny County Jail in Pittsburgh. He is expected to be extradited to Florida.

    He was placed on administrative leave by Major League Baseball, according to the Pirates.

    “We take this matter, and these charges in particular, extremely seriously,” team president Frank Coonelly said in a statement.
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