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    Bellagio error leads to one of biggest sports betting losses in Las Vegas history
    The Independent
    Oliver O'Connell
    ,The Independent•July 5, 2020

    Almost a quarter of a million dollars in winning wagers reportedly placed at MGM Resorts last Sunday may have been the largest sportsbook loss in the history of Las Vegas.

    The bets were made after the sporting events had started.

    Seven longtime Las Vegas bookmakers can’t recall a larger loss, The Las Vegas Review-Journal reports. But each oddsmaker has taken hits on past posts and said it’s a fairly common occurrence.

    ESPN reports that the bets were allowed to be placed because incorrect start times were published for a number of Korean and Chinese baseball games due to a manual entry error.

    Almost all of the approximately 50 bets were placed using self-serve kiosks at the Bellagio resort between 1.30am and 3am West Coast time. The games in question started at 1am and 2am.

    One bet was a $250, 10-leg parlay that paid out more than $137,100. A parlay is a single wager that links together multiple wagers but is dependent on all of those wagers winning together.

    The Nevada Gaming Control Board is said to be investigating. Anytime there is a dispute in excess of $500, the state’s books are required to contact the board, which conducts an investigation and makes a ruling by which the books must abide.

    “It’s happened to all of us,” Westgate sportsbook director John Murray said. “I think every sportsbook probably since the beginning of time has dealt with this at some point.

    “We’ve had past post situations where our employees put in the wrong time or put in the wrong number or they forgot to close something. It’s manual-entry and humans are going to make mistakes.”

    The Las Vegas Review-Journal says that Robert Walker, USBookmaking director of sportsbook operations, is still haunted by getting past-posted during his tenure as MGM Resorts sportsbook director from 1996 to 2008.

    “I still haven’t gotten over some mistakes I made at The Mirage 20 years ago,” he said. “There’s no worse feeling than when you see a bet come across on a game that’s already started.

    “I got lit up on some halftimes before. If you don’t manually close out the halftime line, they keep betting it and that’s what they did.”

    Mr Walker said a college football bettor once placed a $3,000 halftime bet on Louisiana State late in the fourth quarter, when the bet couldn’t lose.

    “Once I saw that bet come across the ticker in the fourth quarter, I was mortified,” he said.

    The sportsbook locked out the ticket from cashing while Mr Walker went to the MGM Grand to explain his mistake to the bettor.

    “He gave me the story that they didn’t know and they were LSU fans. But yet you’re watching the game,” he said. “But it was 100 per cent my fault. They were guests of the casino, so at that point I sided with them and it was a mistake we had to eat.”

    With reporting from the Associated Press
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    I got to take advantage of a sportsbook error once, I think I posted about it on here. I was able to make a parlay that included picking the finalists and the winner of a grand slam. Of course, when you pick the winner, you're obviously already picking them to win their semi so that's factored into the payout for that bet. So I got to effectively square the odds on the semifinal picks. In the end it was the lowest odds outcome, Novak over Nadal I think, which paid out enough to cover all the other combinations I bet, but if anything else had happened I would have made a bunch of money. Free roll!

  3. #3093

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    Not a trivial record was tied today.
    Lewis Hamilton tied Michael Schumacher in total F1 wins, with 91. That record was truly considered unbreakable when Schumacher set it. At that time, Schumacher had left #2 Alain Prost behind with 40 more victories (51).
    Hamilton is basically guaranteed to break the record and reach 100. His Mercedes team has won the last 6 championships, will certainly win the seventh this year, and there is no team that even comes close to them.

    Personally, a category that is meaningless as far as the skills of the drivers. Schumacher reached his record when Ferrari was unbeatable, then Sebastian Vettel reached 53, with his dominance coming from 4 years of the Red-Bull team reigning supreme, and now it is Hamilton that has the best car. The situation is so bad that Fernando Alonso, a two time F1 winner, said it is no fun to know who is going to win the Sunday race on Thursday (usually the first day of practices).
    Still, a record is a record. I only wish they had to at least press a clutch when racing.
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  4. #3094

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    The H-pattern shifter called - it demands recognition...

    But yes - it's an accomplishment - one that is really tough to put in perspective given the nature of the sport.

  5. #3095

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    F1 and, for that matter, all race cars do not have an H pattern shifter. They were linear: 1 through 4, in a straight line, or to 5 and then 6. It was one of the reasons you could see a professional racer blow a gearbox because they could shift from 3rd to 1st (for example) when downshifting.
    You don't get linear boxes in commercial cars precisely because of that. I would have blown my gearbox a long time ago if my car had a linear box (yes, the old man that yells at clouds still drives a stick).

    BTW: Commercial cars also don't have true H patterns. It is a gimmick to avoid the accidents above. In reality, the box is also linear, with a little mechanism at the stick to make it an H.

    Thinking of Hamilton. Why do we have so many GOAT's at the same time? Hamilton, our tennis triumvirate, Lebron, Serena, Football QB's (Brady, Brees), the recently retired Usain Bolt, Mikaela Shiffrin, etc. What were moms feeding kids in the late 1990's?
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

  6. #3096

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    I suspect 20-30 years now we will be saying the same thing about our then record setting athletes. It's more notable now about sports that don't have "best evers" playing. Can't think of many - probably the NHL and MLB I'd say, although those I would argue is more the different rules / how game is played.
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  7. #3097

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post

    Thinking of Hamilton. Why do we have so many GOAT's at the same time? Hamilton, our tennis triumvirate, Lebron, Serena, Football QB's (Brady, Brees), the recently retired Usain Bolt, Mikaela Shiffrin, etc. What were moms feeding kids in the late 1990's?
    I was just reading a statistical analysis of the greatest F1 drivers by Economist and remembered your post. In fact they put Schumacher at #5 and Hamilton at #6 with neither being anywhere close to all time bests.
    Roger forever

  8. #3098

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    Can't read it (have to register) but sure, I would not put them anywhere near the top. Their cars did too much for them.
    My list? Jackie Stewart, Fangio, Nicki Lauda, Prost and Senna (who died too early).
    Nicki Lauda basically changed the sport. His famous quote: being asked what was the most important part of a drivers body, he said "his buttocks". They laughed, and, deadpanning, he said "how do you think a driver can feel how his car is going?"
    But... records are records. And Hamilton will most likely get it all for himself in the next race.
    Last edited by ponchi101; 10-16-2020 at 01:27 PM.
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