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    Re: Other Sports Random, Random

    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    Essential sports:

    Yep, sounds about right.
    I'm not sure if they're earmarked as "essential" per se, but they are still doing horse racing at Gulfstream Park and Tampa Bay Downs, though only on certain days of the week (Wednesday through Sunday, I think).
    Winston, a.k.a. Alvena Rae Risley Hiatt (1944-2019), RIP

  2. #3077

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    Am I misremembering but didn't this happen already?

    President to consult sports commissioners about ending lockdown
    Apr 14
    4/14/2020 7:32:17 PM

    President Donald Trump announced Tuesday that he plans to consult with a number of key figures throughout the sports world to help guide the reopening of the United States, Ben Pickman of reports.

    Among the names that Trump listed Tuesday include, NBA commissioner Adam Silver, MLB commissioner Rob Manfred and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. Trump also made particular mention of Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Mavericks owner Mark Cuban.

    "In sports, we want to get our sports back so importantly," Trump said.

    "But we have to get our sports back. I'm tired of watching baseball games that are 14 years old. But I haven't actually had too much time to watch. I would say maybe I watch one batter and then I get back to work."

    In early April, Trump held a conference call with a number of major league sports commissioners. In the call, he reportedly said he thought the NFL would be able to start its season on time in September. Trump also reportedly told the commissioners that he hoped fans could attend games again by August or September.
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti-Amie View Post
    Am I misremembering but didn't this happen already?
    You're remembering right. They were a part of the conference call in his attempt to restart the leagues with fans as soon as possible, an idea swiftly shut down by key governors soon after. Now he's assembling a list of a million and one business leaders to consult about restarting the economy and it includes sports commissioners and this time team owners as well.

  4. #3079

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    Evander Holyfield-George Foreman (1991) airs in 10 minutes on ESPN.

    After losing the heavyweight title in "The Rumble in the Jungle" in 1974, George Foreman did not fight for a major title again until this fight. Holyfield was making the first defense of his titles.
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.

  5. #3080

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    See how Steph Curry, Tony Romo, Rafa Nadal and others compare to their peers
    January 31, 2020

    There are more than 4,000 athletes in the NFL, MLB, NBA, MLS and NHL alone. Add all the other sports leagues, and there are thousands of athletes who are eligible for Golf Digest's Best Athlete Ranking. We expanded that list of 100 by contacting each team's communications staff in the four major sports leagues, along with the overall communications leader in other sports leagues. To fill in gaps, we worked with sports agents, sports agencies such as Octagon, Wasserman, Newport Sports Management, Excel, CAA, and Tandem Sports and Entertainment, as well as online search engines and research services of journalistic periodicals. We supplemented that with in-house research and Some handicaps are estimates from players or representatives. This ranking was compiled in 2018. — Cliff Schrock

    Illustration by Mark Ulriksen


    0.5 | Winner of 14 Grand Slam titles doesn't have recent scores posted, but his golf swing says scratch player.
    1.5 | The 2003 U.S. Open winner has had a golf event in the past for the Andy Roddick Foundation. His home course is Spanish Oaks G.C. in Austin.
    2.3 | Winner of eight Grand Slam titles, he plays mainly at Torrington C.C. in Connecticut and the Windsor Club in Florida.
    RAFAEL NADAL 2.5 | The 17-time Grand Slam winner puts his game on display in charity events and was in Tiger Woods' gallery at the 2017 Hero World Challenge. In 2018, he hosted the first Rafa Nadal Golf Challenge.
    8 | Six-time major winner did not develop a love for golf until retiring from tennis. He prefers to play as a scratch against friends in stroke play.
    10 | Turned pro at just 14. Now 22, she has won two WTA titles.

    No curlers...
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.

  6. #3081

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    Just by following Ash on social media, I have this idea that she'll retire early from tennis to join the pro golf tour. Part of the story told about tennis to cricket and back to tennis is that it was too much too fast and wasn't as fun for her anymore. And I haven't seen that she likes anything more than she likes golfing. So this isn't helping my future prediction for her at all.

  7. #3082

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    I don't see why a tennis player cannot also play a few golf tournaments a year. And this is business. The PGA and LPGA may like to have an ATP/WTA player in their field. The other players won't but it can happen.
    Unless, of course, such player starts winning, showing the reality of golf as a "sport".
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

  8. #3083

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    I was a bit surprised not to see Petr Korda on that list. I don't actually have any idea how well he plays golf, but his 2 daughters are among the best in the world right now, both having excellent pro careers. Early on in their careers, Petr caddied for them, but while he is still visible at some of their tournaments, I haven't seen him caddying in a few years.


  9. #3084

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    I got a refund from NBC Sports Gold where I watch track and field.

    They're the first outfit to return money.

    I have the NBA's season pass and FIOS is giving updates about any possible refund.
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.

  10. #3085

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    Dish is reportedly trying to avoid paying ESPN $80-100 million in per-subscriber fees for April
    With no live sports on ESPN, Dish is reportedly trying to withhold the per-subscriber fees they'd normally pay Disney for ESPN channels.

    A piece from noted cable bundle and Disney critic Rich Greenfield and other analysts at Greenfield’s LightShed Partners Tuesday argued for multichannel video providers (MVPDs) to stop paying ESPN and other sports networks’ per-subscriber fees with lessened sports events available thanks to the COVID-19 pandemic, with even a URL of “If networks are not paying for sports, why are consumers? MVPDs must use force majeure.” That piece drew some skepticism, especially as most of it was clear lobbying for MVPDs to take that tactic, but it also included a line with some possible reporting, “We believe multiple MVPDs informed ESPN that affiliate fees should not be paid starting in April 2020 because sports content is not being delivered as specified in their affiliation agreements.” And now, Josh Kosman of The New York Post has named Dish as a MVPD trying this approach:

    Dish Network, the nation’s fourth largest TV provider, wants to wiggle out of the $80 million to $100 million fees it’s supposed to pay ESPN for April broadcasting rights, one source said. The fees are due at the end of the month and Dish has told ESPN that it plans to use that money instead to lower the monthly bills of its roughly 12 million subscribers, the source added.

    “Charlie Ergen is trying to get out of the ESPN contract by claiming force majeure,” a second source told The Post, referring to a contract clause that frees the parties from obligations due to an extraordinary event.

    Disney’s ESPN has rebuffed the request, the second source said, but it’s unclear whether it will be able to enforce the payment.
    It’s certainly more impactful to have an actual big MVPD listed as doing this, even if Dish declined comment to Kosman. And this does fit with Dish’s overall position and with their past strategies; they’re one of the few big pay-TV providers that doesn’t also own a batch of regional sports networks (as noted in our earlier analysis of Greenfield’s piece, competitors AT&T/DirecTV and Comcast both own RSNs, which have seen even sharper declines in viewership than ESPN, so they might not want to poke the subscriber-fee bear; Dish doesn’t have that problem), and they’re also a company that’s historically been very aggressive in carriage negotiations (which has led to long-running disputes with the likes of Fox, the former Fox/current Sinclair RSNs, Altitude and more). So if any big MVPD was actually going to challenge ESPN on this, it makes sense that it’s Dish.

    But that doesn’t mean that this approach is a guaranteed success for Dish (and for other MVPDs if they try it). Yes, Dish could withhold the money for April and force Disney/ESPN to take them to court to get it, and any proceedings there would likely take quite a while (especially with COVID-19 restrictions lengthening the court backlog). But in any courtroom argument, Disney has at least somewhat of a case that ESPN is still providing desirable programming; yes, much of their studio programming has seen big audience declines, but they’ve had some record-setting content this month between The Last Dance and the NFL Draft, with the latter beating out the rest of TV in key demos during the week of April 23-26. (Of course, there are caveats there; the draft is a once-annually event rather than recurring programming, and it also pulled in audience from ABC and NFL Network. But still, a lot of people still wanted ESPN and still watched ESPN last week.)

    And that speaks to something interesting that could potentially come of any withholding attempt from the likes of Dish. If Dish doesn’t pay those per-susbscriber fees There’s the chance that Disney could pull some or all of their channels from Dish in response. Whether they’d actually do so would depend on many factors, likely including contractual language, executives’ strategy, and more, but if they did, that could lead to some people switching away from Dish in order to keep Disney networks like ESPN, FX, Disney Channel and more. So this approach carries some risk on that front as well.

    It’s also notable that very little of the programming ESPN is expected to air has been officially “cancelled” at this point, with most of it just postponed. Thus, if Dish insists on only paying this per-subscriber fee when that programming actually airs, and if ESPN goes along with that (or if it’s tied up in court for a while and the ESPN channels remain on Dish during that period), that could lead to a much bigger per-subscriber fee if we do get a glut of sports content this fall. And that could lead to some interesting challenges for Dish and for their subscribers.

    The overall conversation about per-subscriber fees when sports networks aren’t airing what they’re expecting to air is a worthwhile one, and there’s certainly some merit to the discussion of “But you promised me events X, Y and Z in exchange for this fee.” Putting premium sports events on cable is why ESPN is able to keep their industry-high per-subscriber fees, and why they don’t just throw everything on ABC to maximize event viewership, and why it’s so important for them to keep properties like Monday Night Football. And it’s understandable why there’s some backlash from MVPDs about these fees with ESPN airing so much less sports than anticipated, and with studio shows’ audiences declining with no sports to cover. (Although it’s certainly interesting that this discussion has started with ESPN, which has still had a couple of very high-viewership events, rather than the RSNs, which have not.) But whether that backlash will actually lead to much is yet to be determined. It’s notable to have Dish listed as one MVPD trying this tactic, but we’ll see just how far they’re willing to push on it.

    [The New York Post]
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.

  11. #3086

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    German Bundesliga will be the first large sports organization to restart the season. Government has given a green light, now they only need to decide the date (likely in 2 weeks). Of course behind closed doors with no spectators.
    Roger forever

  12. #3087

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    KBO (Korean Baseball) doesn't count?

  13. #3088

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    UFC returns with a Trump welcome and more questions about coronavirus precautions

    Cindy Boren
    May 10, 2020 at 12:28 p.m. EDT

    The return of the UFC Saturday night marked the first major U.S. sporting event since the novel coronavirus pandemic forced a shutdown in March, and it featured a message from President Trump, a report that the sport was attempting to muzzle athletes’s comments on its health precautions, and a glimpse at what future competitions in venues without fans could look like.

    UFC 249, an ESPN pay-per-view event in Jacksonville, Fla., took place with no fans in the 15,000-seat VyStar Veterans Memorial Arena. With everyone outside the Octagon sporting masks and fighters being able to hear commentary for the ESPN broadcast, it was a surreal scene — one that may become commonplace, with other sports, from baseball to basketball to football to horse racing, considering going fan-less.

    “I want to congratulate Dana White and the UFC,” President Trump said in a video, going on to add, “Get the sports leagues back, let’s play. You do the social distancing and whatever else you have to do, but we need sports. We want our sports back.”

    But at what cost? Mixed martial arts is a contact sport and it is a given that there will be positive tests, as was the case Friday with Ronaldo Souza, known as Jacare, and two of his cornermen. UFC President Dana White had been determined to continue staging fights from the outset of the pandemic, stopped briefly by Disney’s ESPN, which carries many of the sport’s events.

    On Saturday, that full-speed-ahead determination extended to the fighters’ participation agreement, according to the New York Times, which reported that fighters could risk losing prize money or bonuses if they were to “suggest or communicate” that proper safety precautions were not in place. White drew a distinction, telling Yahoo Sports that fighters would be subject to punishment were they to say anything untrue about UFC.

    “If a fighter says something that isn’t true — if he says we didn’t test anyone for this — that would [violate the agreement],” White said. “But if he said something that was true, his opinion, then that is different.”

    According to the Times, the agreement says nothing about untrue statements.

    There was significant pressure to return to live sports from political leaders, like Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who are eager to reopen the economy. DeSantis recently placed professional sports operations, as well as sports-entertainment company WWE, on a list of “essential businesses” exempt from shelter-in-place requirements. In resuming business, White had promised an “overabundance of safety,” telling TMZ last month: “We have really smart people who’ve been working on this, and we’re going to spend whatever it costs to make sure the fighters, their camps, the commission, the referees, our production people and everybody is safe that’s going to go to this event.”

    He also pointed out that fighters are safer because of access to tests. “We’re doing the right thing as far medical testing goes and everything. That’s all we f------ do. That’s nothing new. We were doing that s--- way before the coronavirus,” he in an Instagram Live session last month (via MMA Junkie).

    Trump has a friendship with White that has spanned almost 20 years and dates to the days when the president was one of the few casino owners would agree to stage UFC events. White supported Trump’s run for the presidency, speaking on his behalf at the 2016 Republican National Convention. Trump repaid the support by attending UFC 244 at Madison Square Garden last November, becoming the first president to attend a UFC fight in person while in office.

    UFC 249 took place with a crew of half of the usual 300 staffers. UFC Chief Operating Officer Lawrence Epstein told the Sports Business Journal that about 1,200 Covid-19 tests would be used for fighters and other employees at Saturday’s event and for two others set for May 13 and 16 in Jacksonville.

    Still, the news of the positive tests of Souza and his cornermen was sobering. Zachary Binney, an adjunct instructor of epidemiology at the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University, tweeted Saturday that White and UFC “were negligent” in restarting too soon, adding, “If this was your system working as designed, your system is bogus.” He went on to question UFC on social distancing, in part because it allowed Souza to attend the weigh-in after he notified officials he had been exposed.

    Souza is based in Orlando and had driven to Jacksonville on Wednesday, telling officials that he had been exposed through a family member who was infected. He was tested by the UFC, but allowed to remain on the card at that point. When the test results came in, the UFC said he and his team left the host hotel to self-quarantine elsewhere.

    With California and Nevada closed to sports events, White focused on Florida. Boxing promoter Bob Arum was highly critical of White’s aggressive play to keep fighting during the pandemic and is looking at the second half of June for his own events.

    “Good luck to them,” Arum told “I just hope that they’re not endangering the safety of anyone. But this kind of cowboy behavior doesn’t do anybody any good.”

    As for Saturday’s fight, it delivered a big upset, with Justin Gaethje (22-2) stunning the heavily favored Tony Ferguson (26-4) with a TKO in the fifth and final round of what was deemed an interim lightweight title bout. The victory appears to give Gaethje the right to next fight titleholder Khabib Nurmagomedov, who was unable to fight this weekend because of travel restrictions caused by the pandemic.

    Greg Hardy and Carla Esparza got key assists from commentator Daniel Cormier, as they said they were able hear his analysis during their fights.

    “It’s crazy because he was kind of criticizing me and part of me was like, ‘Hey, like, that’s messed up. Why are you saying that?’” Esparza said following her victory over Michelle Waterson in a strawweight fight. “But I was like, ‘That’s actually a good idea.’ He was like, ‘She’s just striking and just going for takedowns.’ I kind of made some adjustments in there. It’s crazy, we were definitely able to hear them in there.”

    It was weird, but, after roughly eight weeks, it was live sports.

    “We did this for you,” Ferguson told fans, relegated to watching from afar, “to bring sports back.”
    “No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.” – Lily Tomlin.

  14. #3089

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    The most cowardly president in the WORLD went to UFC? Where do the jokes start?
    Face it. It's the apocalypse.

  15. #3090

    Re: Other Sports Random, Random

    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    The most cowardly president in the WORLD went to UFC? Where do the jokes start?
    No he didn't attend, he just recorded a video message for the event.

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