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  1. #17011

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    Chuck Schumer
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    Today, we remember those on #DDay 76 years ago who stormed the beaches of Normandy, and those who gave all to fight for freedom and democracy and democratic rights. We owe these heroes a debt we can never repay.
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  2. #17012

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    Locals reportedly trap family of campers after mistaking them for antifa

    June 5, 2020

    A multiracial family looking to get away for the weekend were allegedly stalked, and subsequently trapped, by locals who mistook them for being bussed-in members of antifa, Washington state's Peninsula Daily News reports.

    The family of four — a husband, wife, their 16-year-old daughter, and the husband's mother — were visiting Forks, Washington, from Spokane, Washington, and had driven the seven-and-a-half-hour distance in a full-sized school bus they planned to use to camp off a logging road near Olympic National Park. The family stopped at Forks Outfitters to get supplies, and were confronted by "seven or eight carloads of people in the grocery store parking lot" who "repeatedly asked them if they were antifa protesters," according to a press release by Sgt. Ed Anderson. "The family told the people they weren't associated with any such group and were just camping."

    When the family left the parking lot, they were trailed by "at least four vehicles," the Peninsula Daily News reports. The family said that "two of the vehicles had people in them carrying what appeared to be semi-automatic rifles."

    The family reached their camp site, but the sound of gunshots and power saws down the road made them decide to leave. As they were trying to drive away, they found that someone had sawed down trees in order to trap them in the site so that they couldn't get out.

    Local high schoolers helped clear the roadway for the family and the Clallam County Sheriff's Office is reportedly investigating the incident. Heavy reports that posts had been made in local Facebook groups referencing the event, including boasts of "protect your town!" and "u think they realized they [came] to the wrong place yet?" You can read more at Peninsula Daily News, and learn more about the spread of false rumors about antifa agitators here at The Week. Jeva Lange

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/91843...staking-antifa
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  3. #17013

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    Norah O'Donnell Flag of United States
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    NEW: A senior Pentagon official tells
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    David Martin that on Monday the president said he wanted 10k troops patrolling streets across the country. In a heated conversation in the Oval Office, Barr, Esper, & Milley advised him against it.

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  4. #17014

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    That story from Washington state (Ti's post 2 above) reminds us all that there are ultra-crazies in all 50 states. Washington might not have the numbers of, say, Alabama, but they've got them.

    GH

  5. #17015

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    Now for some slightly more uplifting news:

    'They saved me': How protesters protected a lone cop, a moment captured in powerful photos
    LOUISVILLE, Ky. – Officer Galen Hinshaw heard the call over the radio. One of his fellow officers was in trouble.

    A crowd of protesters had surrounded a police cruiser at the base of the Clark Memorial Bridge. The officer inside radioed for help as protesters — strobed in blue and red patrol car lights — banged on the car’s hood and windshield.

    Hinshaw, a Fourth Division patrol officer and part of Louisville Metro Police Department's Special Response Team, drove as close as he could to the scene. As he got out of his cruiser, he was immediately surrounded by protesters. Some yelled profanities. Others balled their fists.

    He made his way through the crowd wearing 40 extra pounds of safety gear — a baton, vest, helmet and body armor. He was alone. As the crowd grew, Hinshaw detoured to the front of Bearno’s pizzeria so he could keep his back to the wall. He needed a place to stop and reassess the situation — to be sure that nobody could get behind him. He also needed to keep an eye on his trapped colleague.

    Overhead, a police helicopter kept watch and occasionally flooded the intersection with a spotlight. Sirens pierced the air, and protesters chanted ever louder.
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    Protesters surround Louisville Metro Police Department officer Galen Hinshaw in front of Bearno's restaurant on Thursday, May 28, 2020 in Louisville, Kentucky. Five strangers linked arms to keep the crowd from getting to Hinshaw.

    Hinshaw’s nearest help was still blocks away. The crowd moved closer, and the yelling got angrier. Protesters hurled questions at him.

    "Are you one of the good ones?"

    "How do you think we feel?"

    One women screamed, "All gas, no brakes!"

    He tried to respond but was drowned out by the cacophony of sirens and yelling. “We do care, man, we do care,” he said. Hinshaw tried to reason with the crowd.

    “I’m sorry, I’m sorry you feel this way,” Hinshaw yelled, trying to make his voice heard over the anger of the crowd.

    The 32-year-old was scared. It was only going to take one person, and everyone would jump in, he knew. The Special Response Team trains once a month, but that hadn’t quite prepared Hinshaw for what was in front of him. If the protesters decided to attack him, there were just too many of them.

    “Here we go,” he thought. “I’m preparing to be injured.”

    Hinshaw kept his voice calm as he radioed in: “Charlie 12, this is a 10-30. We need help.” 10-30 is code for officer needs help.
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    Protesters surround Louisville Metro Police Department officer Galen Hinshaw in front of Bearno's restaurant on Thursday, May 28, 2020 in Louisville, Kentucky. Five strangers, including Julian De La Cruz, Ricky McClellan, (far right) and Darrin Lee Jr. (center, right), linked arms to keep the crowd from getting to Hinshaw.

    He watched people's hands in the crowd, making sure nobody had a weapon and scanning for things thrown from protesters in the back.

    It was at this moment that a man emerged from the crowd in a red University of Louisville mask covering the lower half of his face. He put himself between the closest protester and Hinshaw.

    The Courier Journal captured the moment in a photograph that has now been shared across the nation.

    Local entrepreneur Darrin Lee Jr. spotted Hinshaw and the advancing crowd and linked arms with the stranger in the red mask.

    “Once I saw the guy with the red mask step up, I said, 'I gotta step up,'” said Lee, who also runs a child care center. “It was reactive. I just went.”

    He had no idea what would happen next.

    “I really thought at that moment, 'Protect him. It really isn’t his fault.'" Lee said.

    Lee was also worried that Hinshaw would react and hit him from behind, so he turned to reassure the officer that they were going to protect him.

    “He was looking nervous and scared,” Lee said. “If he panicked, then there was gonna be a war out there.” Suddenly, the protesters seemed to turn on Lee. One man who had marched with him for nearly the whole protest was surprised. Another shouted in Lee's face: "How can you protect him!" Lee got nervous.
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    Protesters surround Louisville Metro Police Department officer Galen Hinshaw in front of Bearno's restaurant on Thursday, May 28, 2020 in Louisville, Kentucky. Five strangers, including Julian De La Cruz, Ricky McClellan and Darrin Lee Jr., linked arms to keep the crowd from getting to Hinshaw.

    Ultimately, five men formed a human shield to protect Hinshaw. All of them strangers to one another. Nobody knew the name of the man to his left or to his right. Three were black, one white, one Dominican — all linking arms to keep harm away from Hinshaw, himself half-Pakistani.

    “A human was in trouble, and right is right," said Ricky McClellan, a factory worker from Old Louisville who was locked onto Lee’s left arm.

    After reaching the bridge and watching some protesters throwing rocks at police cars, McClellan spotted Hinshaw as he walked around the group and thought, "Whoa, you're by yourself?"
    McClellan watched as the crowd around Hinshaw grew larger and louder. Then he heard Lee yell, “Lock arms! Lock arms!”

    That's when Julian De La Cruz saw the men locking arms and jumped in. “I saw the guys link up and I saw a weak spot,” De La Cruz said, and took up a position on the end of the line. He was nervous, scared.

    “Things could’ve gotten really bad,” he said.
    The entire scene lasted no more than two minutes. It felt much longer to those who were there.

    Hinshaw's squad arrived, and Lee escorted him back to his unit. Hinshaw thanked him.

    For De La Cruz, a local businessman, the moment was about accountability. “If I can hold my brothers accountable, if I can march with my brothers and turn against them to say, 'This isn’t right,' that’s where the accountability comes in,” he said. “In the end, that’s all that we are asking for," said De La Cruz, whose uncle is a police officer. "What we need is for those great cops to hold their brothers and sisters accountable at all times.”
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    Julian De La Cruz was one of five strangers who linked arms to protect Officer Galen Hinshaw from being harmed on the first night of protests in Louisville.

    As proud as De La Cruz is of that night, he shakes his head and says that this shouldn’t be an extraordinary event. “This should be the norm,” he said. De La Cruz also feels that media images of violence, vandalism and looting misrepresent Louisville and the protest. “What happened that night with us linking arms was just one of many heroic acts that night," he said. He hopes that those are the moments that define Louisville. "That is Louisville," De La Cruz said. "Louisville showed up that night."

    Lee agreed. “Nobody knew anybody but we just stood up and did that,” he said. “If the officer was black we would’ve done the same thing. He’s somebody else’s son. He’s somebody else’s loved one."

    Hinshaw has reached out to the men through social media and texts. But he's looking forward to meeting them all and thanking them in person.

    George Timmering, co-owner of Bearno's, said he'll buy the pizza when they're ready to meet.

    “Those guys, they saved me,” Hinshaw said. “There’s no doubt about it. And I am beyond thankful. If it wasn’t for them intervening and recognizing that I was in trouble and helping me, I am sure that I would’ve been assaulted in one form or another. "If they didn’t intervene, something was gonna happen to me.”

    Hinshaw continues to be moved by the moment. “I’ve cried over that incident," he said. “It was a moment where strangers came together to help another stranger, and that stranger was me.”
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  6. #17016

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    Your Sunday Morning think piece.

    Aaron Rupar@atrupar

    "Pepper spray is not a chemical irritant. It's not chemical" -- AG Barr uses painstaking distinctions to defend the use of force against protesters near the White House last Monday
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1269649093392990208

    The proper follow up would've been to ask if he would submit, on air, to being doused with pepper spray. JMHO
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  7. #17017

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    Follow up to post #17016 that would normally go in our science thread.

    Kurt Eichenwald
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    Barr says pepper spray isnt a chemical irritant. Again, he is a liar or doesnt know what he is ordering sprayed at people or both.

    Oleoresin capsicum (pepper spray) is not a SYNTHETIC chemical irritant. It is an ORGANIC chemical irritant. (Chemical structure below).../

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    Mitt Romney is marching to the White House for #BlackLivesMatter. Is this real life?

    https://twitter.com/hannah_natanson/...m6m5OrRwdsxNLA


    To be fair before he was a GOPBot Republican candidate, he was a moderate Massachussets governor who passed progressive medical reform, so this is not THAT off if you forget 2010-2017 happened.


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    What has always pissed me off a bit about Mitt Romney is how far he is willing to swing back and forth in his rhetoric and actions based on the politically best stance of the moment. As a Republican governor of an obviously fairly liberal state, as mentioned above, he supported what was definitely a liberal stance on funding of medical care. He was also O.K. with gay marriage when it passed there. As a presidential candidate he was much too far to the right. Now it is as if he is swinging back toward the middle. He has occasionally made brave stances (such as his vote on Trump's impeachment), but he still seems to be looking out for himself first and foremost. While it appeared sincere, I can't help, therefore, but to question the sincerity of his marching this weekend.

    By the way, he is so popular in Utah that if his only goal is to remain in the Senate from Utah, occasional slips toward the liberal side won't likely hurt him. You could imagine that there might be a primary challenge from an ultra-conservative that would succeed in some states, but I don't think it is at all likely that he would lose such a challenge there. If he continues to show these swings toward the middle, I do think that rules him out as someone who could win the Republican nomination for president again. The Republican base is not likely to embrace him nationally.

    GH

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennHarman View Post
    What has always pissed me off a bit about Mitt Romney is how far he is willing to swing back and forth in his rhetoric and actions based on the politically best stance of the moment. As a Republican governor of an obviously fairly liberal state, as mentioned above, he supported what was definitely a liberal stance on funding of medical care. He was also O.K. with gay marriage when it passed there. As a presidential candidate he was much too far to the right. Now it is as if he is swinging back toward the middle. He has occasionally made brave stances (such as his vote on Trump's impeachment), but he still seems to be looking out for himself first and foremost. While it appeared sincere, I can't help, therefore, but to question the sincerity of his marching this weekend.

    By the way, he is so popular in Utah that if his only goal is to remain in the Senate from Utah, occasional slips toward the liberal side won't likely hurt him. You could imagine that there might be a primary challenge from an ultra-conservative that would succeed in some states, but I don't think it is at all likely that he would lose such a challenge there. If he continues to show these swings toward the middle, I do think that rules him out as someone who could win the Republican nomination for president again. The Republican base is not likely to embrace him nationally.

    GH

    I think he might sense to have prominence he has to be more actively anti-Trump and that there is a chance to lead the "more moderate, milder" GOP wing which I'm sure will emerge more prominently after Trump as the next Republican strategy.

    I do also believe that he is genuinely serving his father's memory, since George Romney supported the Civil Rights movement, which broke with the Republicans as well as the LDS at the time.


  11. #17021

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    Utah may be republican but many parts of the state are wildly liberal. Mohab, close to Colorado (and a wonderful little town to visit) is blatantly pro-LBGT, pro-pot, and democrat. The issue is Salt Lake city and the religious side of it.
    Could Romney be a man comfortable in his own skin? Maybe not always looking at what the polls say? He is wealthy, he really does not need politics. So maybe he can look at issues a bit more impartially.
    Could he even be what I say is needed? A politician that, once you get elected, stops being from either party. Once you get to that chair you were running for, you are no longer Republican nor Democrat. You legislate impartially.
    Yes, I know, I am dreaming. But that is the way it should be.
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  12. #17022

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    He has flip-flopped in the past too much for me to think of him as the type of politician we need. Maybe he will prove me wrong with future actions, but I'm not holding my breath.

    However, I also would like to dream about a day when many politicians are the way Ponchi described his ideal. GH

  13. #17023

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    I agree that Romney did two things with his walk yesterday:

    1. He put on the mantle of his late father who was an aredent supporter of civil rights

    2. He put himself out there as a person the "saner" Republicans I keep thinking are out there can rally around.

    I don't know if he'll run for President again though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ponchi101 View Post
    Utah may be republican but many parts of the state are wildly liberal. Mohab, close to Colorado (and a wonderful little town to visit) is blatantly pro-LBGT, pro-pot, and democrat. The issue is Salt Lake city and the religious side of it.
    Could Romney be a man comfortable in his own skin? Maybe not always looking at what the polls say? He is wealthy, he really does not need politics. So maybe he can look at issues a bit more impartially.
    Could he even be what I say is needed? A politician that, once you get elected, stops being from either party. Once you get to that chair you were running for, you are no longer Republican nor Democrat. You legislate impartially.
    Yes, I know, I am dreaming. But that is the way it should be.
    Salt Lake City is fairly liberal. It's the area around it, especially Provo, that's more conservative.
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    Re: National, Regional and Local News

    Quote Originally Posted by GlennHarman View Post
    He has flip-flopped in the past too much for me to think of him as the type of politician we need. Maybe he will prove me wrong with future actions, but I'm not holding my breath.

    However, I also would like to dream about a day when many politicians are the way Ponchi described his ideal. GH
    I agree with you about him, but, as a Democrat, I'd rather have someone like him than some "new blood" Republican that might actually have more appeal emerge in 4 years.


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