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06-17-2012, 04:56 PM
#4831
Re: National, Regional and Local News
And he really said that. He really did.
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06-17-2012, 05:19 PM
#4832
Re: National, Regional and Local News
 Originally Posted by dryrunguy
And he really said that. He really did.
Shut up! That's not a joke?
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06-17-2012, 05:47 PM
#4833
Re: National, Regional and Local News
 Originally Posted by dryrunguy
And he really said that. He really did.
 Originally Posted by Kirkus
Shut up! That's not a joke?
That has to be a joke. I mean, the first one is just ridiculous and the second one... there are no words.
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06-17-2012, 05:51 PM
#4834
Re: National, Regional and Local News
Judge for yourselves. Perhaps he was playing along. But no real pro-lifer would joke about this.
http://www.thefrisky.com/2012-04-12/...l-mens-bodies/
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06-17-2012, 06:20 PM
#4835
Re: National, Regional and Local News
 Originally Posted by dryrunguy
Yikes! I thought both sides of this were jokes, even the sperm law.
In all fairness, there is a difference between a fetus and a sperm.
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06-17-2012, 06:27 PM
#4836
Re: National, Regional and Local News
 Originally Posted by Kirkus
Yikes! I thought both sides of this were jokes, even the sperm law.
In all fairness, there is a difference between a fetus and a sperm.
In response to the proliferation of pro-life bills in various states, there have been at least three efforts on the parts of Democratic women to propose absurd amendments to absurd bills. Oklahoma, Virginia, and one other that escapes me at the moment. Perhaps there have been others I don't know about. One also sought, IIRC, to restrict male access to Viagra, and another I believe sought to restrict insurance coverage for vasectomy. Though none of these amendments passed, they made a point.
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06-17-2012, 06:35 PM
#4837
Re: National, Regional and Local News
I think these Viagra/sperm bills are silly. The anti-abortion bills aren't meant to attack a women's right over her body. They're meant to protect life. Or at least I believe that's what the authors are attempting to do.
Obviously I don't agree with them, but I think they're sincere in their efforts to protect life.
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06-17-2012, 07:14 PM
#4838
Re: National, Regional and Local News
 Originally Posted by Kirkus
I think these Viagra/sperm bills are silly. The anti-abortion bills aren't meant to attack a women's right over her body. They're meant to protect life. Or at least I believe that's what the authors are attempting to do.
Obviously I don't agree with them, but I think they're sincere in their efforts to protect life.
If the pro-life movement was serious about protecting life, they'd be the most pro-condom people around. But they're not. Because of two Biblical accounts of seed-spilling smotings, the only accounts of seed-spilling smotings I'm aware of in all of human history--and they were accounts that certainly never really happened.
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06-17-2012, 08:56 PM
#4839
Re: National, Regional and Local News
 Originally Posted by dryrunguy
If the pro-life movement was serious about protecting life, they'd be the most pro-condom people around. But they're not. Because of two Biblical accounts of seed-spilling smotings, the only accounts of seed-spilling smotings I'm aware of in all of human history--and they were accounts that certainly never really happened.
I hear ya. And I'm certainly in line with the thinking. (Except I don't think "smotings" is a word. )
I guess my point is I don't think federal, state, and local legislatures should be used to make a point by introducing what I consider to be idiotic bills. Although I agree with the sentiment behind the idea.
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06-17-2012, 10:06 PM
#4840
Re: National, Regional and Local News
 Originally Posted by Kirkus
I hear ya. And I'm certainly in line with the thinking. (Except I don't think "smotings" is a word.  )
I guess my point is I don't think federal, state, and local legislatures should be used to make a point by introducing what I consider to be idiotic bills. Although I agree with the sentiment behind the idea.
I agree. They should be above that.
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06-17-2012, 10:48 PM
#4841
Re: National, Regional and Local News
Rep. Joe Wilson shout's "You Lie!" during the President's address to Congress in September, 2009:

Arizona Governor, Jan Brewer, wags her finger in the President's face after he lands in her state in January, 2012:

Neil Munro interrupts the President during a press conference at the White House in June, 2012:

After this most recent display of disrespect, Daily Caller reporter Neil Munro has said that his interruption of President Barack Obama in the White House Rose Garden was journalistic and similar to how Sam Donaldson, a 1980s White House reporter, interacted with President Ronald Reagan.
Sam Donaldson refuted the connection to Munro by saying, "What this man did yesterday is something new, to me wrong and unusual. I think it is probably the result of the growing incivility of the times, the competition among reporters and news organizations to be noticed not only for the work product but for the theatrics of the gathering ... and there is one more factor, let's face it: Many on the political right believe this president ought not to be there – they oppose him not for his policies and political view but for who he is, an African American! These people and perhaps even certain news organizations (certainly the right wing talkers like Limbaugh) encourage disrespect for this president. That is both regrettable and adds, in this case, to the general dislike of the press on the part of the general public.
Emphasis added.
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06-18-2012, 04:52 AM
#4842
Director of Media Relations
Re: National, Regional and Local News
Thanks for posting Donaldson's comments Kirkus.
Oh heaven...I wake with good intentions but the day it always lasts too long... Emeli Sande
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06-18-2012, 08:49 AM
#4843
Re: National, Regional and Local News
 Originally Posted by Kirkus
I hear ya. And I'm certainly in line with the thinking. (Except I don't think "smotings" is a word.  )
I guess my point is I don't think federal, state, and local legislatures should be used to make a point by introducing what I consider to be idiotic bills. Although I agree with the sentiment behind the idea.
I think the anti-abortion laws are idiotic and that legislatures should not be used for this.
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06-20-2012, 02:25 PM
#4844
Director of Media Relations
Re: National, Regional and Local News
WASHINGTON – Ron Paul, a staunch opponent of federal welfare programs, acknowledged Wednesday that he receives Social Security checks, shortly after advocating that younger generations opt out of the program.
Appearing on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” Paul was asked by Huffington Post’s Sam Stein whether he should set an example for younger Americans and opt out of the program entirely. Paul, refusing the notion, compared the program to other common goods such as the post office.
“Just as I use the post office, I use government highways, I use the banks, I use the federal reserve system, but that doesn’t mean you can’t work to remove this in the same way on Social Security,” the Texas congressman said. “In the same way with Social Security, I am trying to make a transition.”
“I want young people to opt out of Social Security, but my goal isn’t to cut,” Paul said moments before.
Paul later clarified his remarks, saying: “I would preserve Social Security as best I can, but we want to get off,” and claimed that he pays more into the system than he receives.
Paul, whose never-say-die presidential campaigns have made him a darling in libertarian circles and won over a loyal base of supporters, has persistently claimed that Social Security is unconstitutional, and has advocated a slow end to the program, though he has said that he would not end it were he elected president. Instead, Paul has proposed that younger Americans should have the flexibly to opt out of a system that he described as “on its last legs” during a Tea Party debate in 2011.
Though his 2012 presidential campaign, which he has said will be his last, ended in defeat to GOP nominee Mitt Romney, Paul’s supporters hope that with a reported 200-delegate-bloc, the congressman’s opinions on issues such as Social Security can be heard during the Republican party’s national convention in August.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,4149995.story
Oh heaven...I wake with good intentions but the day it always lasts too long... Emeli Sande
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06-20-2012, 03:38 PM
#4845
Re: National, Regional and Local News
And thousands of Paulbots scramble to put together new talking points.
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