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New look at Nadal-Federer head-to-head.

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I’ve decided to look at all the tournaments where Federer and Nadal entered together and divide these into three categories:
- won by Federer;
- won by Nadal;
- won by someone else.

By years:
2003 Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Wimbledon
2003 both played, neither won: Hamburg (Coria), US Open (Roddick), Madrid MS (Ferrero), Basel (Coria)

2004 Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Australian, Dubai, Indiana Wales, Canada, US Open
2004 both played, neither won: Key Biscayne (Roddick), Cincinnati (Agassi)

2005 Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Doha, Key Biscayne, Halle, Wimbledon, Cincinnati, US Open
2005 Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Monte Carlo, French Open
2005 both played, neither won: Australian (Safin))

2006 Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Indiana Wales, Key Biscayne, Wimbledon, Canada, US Open, Madrid MS, YEC
2006 Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Dubai, Monte Carlo, Rome, French Open
2006 both played, neither won: Cincinnati (Roddick)

2007 Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Australian, Dubai, Hamburg, Wimbledon, Cincinnati, US Open, YEC
2007 Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Indiana Wales, Monte Carlo, Rome, French Open
2007 both played, neither won: Key Biscayne (Djoker), Canada (Djoker), Madrid MS (Nalby), Paris (Nalby)

2008 Federer won with Nadal in the draw: US Open
2008 Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Monte Carlo, Hamburg, French Open, Wimbledon, Canada, Olympics
2008 both played, neither won: Australian (Djoker), Dubai (Roddick), Indiana Wales (Djoker), Key Biscayne (Davydenko), Rome (Djoker), Cincinnati (Murray), Madrid MS (Murray), Paris (Tsonga)

2009:
Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Australian, Indian Wells, Monte Carlo, Rome
Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Madrid, French, Cincinnati
Both played neither won: Doha (Murray), KeyBiscaine (Murray), Canadian Open (Murray),
US Open (Del Potro), Paris (Djokovic), London (Davydenko)

2010:
Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Rome, Madrid, Roland Garros, Wimbledon, USOpen
Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Australian, Cincinnati, YEC
Both played neither won: Doha (Davydenko – beaten both of them), IndianWells (Ljubicic) KeyBiscaine (Roddick),
Canadian (Murray - beaten both of them), Shanghai (Murray)

2011:
Nadal won with Federer in the draw: MonteCarlo, FrenchOpen
Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Doha, YEC
Both played neither won: Australian(Djokovic), IndianWells (Djokovic – beaten both of them) KeyBiscaine (Djokovic), Rome (Djokovic),
MadridMS (Djokovic), Wimbledon (Djokovic), Canadian (Djokovic), Cincinnati (Murray), USOpen(Djokovic – beaten both of them)

2012
Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Rome, Roland Garros
Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Indian Wells, Madrid, Wimbledon
Both played neither won: Doha (Tsonga), Australian (Djokovic), Miami (Djokovic)

Overall Federer- Nadal: 38-29 with 43 for the field.

It is worth noting that during the zenith of Federer’s domination Nadal was such a strong #2, that other field managed to get just one tournament per year, when both were in the draw.

Do you think Nadal has enough time with Federer on tour to change this in his favor? My opinion – he will come close, but Fed will finish ahead in this competition, because Murray and Djoker will not allow Nadal to be as dominant as Federer was in his prime.

Players, who have multiple wins with both Federer and Nadal in the draw:
Djoker - 16
Murray - 8
Roddick – 4
Davydenko - 3
Nalby – 2
Coria - 2
Tsonga - 2

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Updated 07-20-2012 at 05:27 AM by mick1303

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Comments

  1. tinamarie's Avatar
    thanks, mick. I really enjoy your blogs- the statistics/numbers you find are fascinating. I am amazed by the low number of tournaments neither player won 2004-2006, even 2007. Talk about two players dominating the tour...
  2. rabbit's Avatar
    Thanks, mick! Great original analysis.

    It just highlights Federer’s dominance that even in 2008, Nadal won fewer tournaments with Federer in the draw than Federer won in his weaker 2007 with Nadal in the draw.

    Wonder how these statistics will change by the end of 2009...
  3. GVGirl's Avatar
    Thanks Mick, I enjoy reading your blogs. Do you work with numbers in real life?
  4. mick1303's Avatar
    I'm not an accountant or statistician. I'm an engineer.
  5. mick1303's Avatar
    I revisit and update the stats:
    2009:
    Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Australian, Indian Wells, Monte Carlo, Rome
    Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Madrid, French, Cincinnati
    Both played neither won: Doha (Murray), KeyBiscaine (Murray), Canadian Open (Murray)

    Total scores:
    Federer – 30,
    Nadal –20,
    Field – 23

    Murray reached 5 and joined Djokovic. He won 5 of the last 6 tournaments, where both Fed and Nadal played and neither won.
    Updated 08-27-2009 at 03:46 AM by mick1303
  6. ponchi101's Avatar
    Mick: time for a 2009 update, after the USO and the fall Master series.
  7. mick1303's Avatar
    Let's do it after London
  8. mick1303's Avatar
    I've edited original thread, adding the latest data.
  9. mick1303's Avatar
    It is probably time to revise the approach. Djokovic is no longer "the best of the rest". Separate count for Dkokovic-Federer and Djokovic-Nadal shall be established. And perhaps - who won the most tournaments with two others in the draw. Let's investigate...

    But at first let's update Federer-Nadal score.

    2013
    Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Indian Wells, Madrid, Rome, Roland Garros, Cincinnati, USOpen,
    Federer did not win with Nadal in the draw.
    This brought their score to 38-35.

    2014
    Nadal won with Federer in the draw: Roland Garros
    Federer won with Nadal in the draw: Halle, Shanghai, Basel
    This brought their score to Federer-Nadal 41:36.

    2015
    So far neither won a tournament with other in the draw.
  10. mick1303's Avatar
    Let's take a look at Djokovic-Nadal scores:
    2005
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Roland Garros
    Djokovic didn't win anything yet, let alone - with Nadal in the draw.
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 1:0

    2006
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Monte Carlo, Roland Garros
    Djokovic won couple of events but without Nadal playing there
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 3:0

    2007
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Indian Wells, Monte Carlo, Rome, Roland Garros
    Djokovic appeared on the scoreboard: Miami, Montreal
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 7:2

    2008
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Monte Carlo, Hamburg, Roland Garros, Wimbledon, Toronto, Olympics
    Djokovic won with Nadal in the draw: Australian, Indian Wells, Rome, YEC.
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 13:6

    To be continued...
  11. mick1303's Avatar
    2009
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Australian, Indian Wells, Monte Carlo, Rome
    Djokovic won with Nadal in the draw: Beijing, Paris
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 17:8

    2010
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Monte Carlo, Rome, Roland Garros, Wimbledon, US Open
    Djokovic didn't win with Nadal in the draw
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 22:8

    2011
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Roland Garros
    Djokovic won with Nadal in the draw: Australian, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Rome, Wimbledon, Montreal, US Open
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 23:16

    2012
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Monte Carlo, Rome, Roland Garros
    Djokovic won with Nadal in the draw: Australian, Miami
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 26:18

    2013
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Indian Wells, Madrid, Rome, Roland Garros, Montreal, Cincinnati, US Open
    Djokovic won with Nadal in the draw: Monte Carlo, Beijing, Shanghai, Paris, YEC
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 33:23

    2014
    Nadal won with Djokovic in the draw: Roland Garros
    Djokovic won with Nadal in the draw: Indian Wells, Miami, Rome, Wimbledon, Beijing
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 34:28

    2015 YTD
    Nadal didn't win with Djokovic in the draw
    Djokovic won with Nadal in the draw: Australian, Indian Wells
    Score Nadal-Djokovic 34:30
  12. mick1303's Avatar
    Federer-Djokovic history
    2004
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Bangkok
    Djokovic didn't win anything yet.
    Score Federer-Djokovic 1:0

    2005
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Wimbledon, Cincinnati, US Open
    Djokovic didn't win anything yet.
    Score Federer-Djokovic 4:0

    2006
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Australian, Indian Wells, Miami, Wimbledon, US Open, Madrid Indoors
    Djokovic didn't win with Federer in the draw.
    Score Federer-Djokovic 10:0

    2007
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Australian, Dubai, Hamburg, Wimbledon, Cincinnati, US Open, YEC
    Djokovic won with Federer in the draw: Miami, Montreal
    Score Federer-Djokovic 17:2

    2008
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: US Open
    Djokovic won with Federer in the draw: Australian, Indian Wells, Rome, YEC
    Score Federer-Djokovic 18:6

    2009
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Madrid, Roland Garros, Wimbledon, Cincinnati
    Djokovic won with Federer in the draw: Basel, Paris
    Score Federer-Djokovic 22:8

    To be continued...
  13. mick1303's Avatar
    2010
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Australian, Cincinnati, Basel, YEC
    Djokovic didn't win with Federer in the draw
    Score Federer-Djokovic 26:8

    2011
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Basel, Paris, YEC
    Djokovic won with Federer in the draw: Australian, Dubai, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Rome, Wimbledon, Montreal, US Open
    Score Federer-Djokovic 29:17

    2012
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Dubai, Indian Wells, Madrid, Wimbledon, Cincinnati
    Djokovic won with Federer in the draw: Australian, Miami, Shanghai, YEC
    Score Federer-Djokovic 34:21

    2013
    Federer didn't win with Djokovic in the draw
    Djokovic won with Federer in the draw: Australian, Dubai, Shanghai, Paris, YEC
    Score Federer-Djokovic 34:26

    2014
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Dubai, Cincinnati, Shanghai
    Djokovic won with Federer in the draw: Indian Wells, Miami, Rome, Wimbledon, Paris, YEC
    Score Federer-Djokovic 37:32

    2015 YTD
    Federer won with Djokovic in the draw: Dubai
    Djokovic won with Federer in the draw: Australian, Indian Wells
    Score Federer-Djokovic 38:34
  14. mick1303's Avatar
    In case of Novak these scores are pretty much in sync with actual H2H - he is gaining on both Federer and Nadal.