Anybody Else Watching Lost?

[aedra1119]

OK. That deserves an OH MY!!! :shocked:

I love Sun/Jin backstory. It's always been the most emotionally satisfying.

I totally agree about the "oh my." Also, I love their story as well.

I missed last week, so I don't know if I missed anything important. I guess can't really talk about it yet until it finishes airing on the west coast.

I forgot about this thread!

[Moose]

FAN-FREAKIN'-TASTIC!

For my money, Jin and Sun centered episodes and backstories have consistently been the best. And this one certainly was no let down. Loved Jin's martial arts display...loved Sun's confrontation with her father and Jin's mother.

Juliet just becomes a bigger enigma week after week. And what's the deal with "the samples"?

And Hurley had the three best lines of the night...all of them one word

"oops"
"Mom"?
"WHAT"!

[Moose]

OK. That deserves an OH MY!!! :shocked:

I love Sun/Jin backstory. It's always been the most emotionally satisfying.

oh my is an understatement, shtexas ;)

[shtexas]

A lot of information given out tonight.

A lot of connections made.

Plenty to chew on.

:cool:

[aedra1119]

A lot of information given out tonight.

A lot of connections made.

Plenty to chew on.

:cool:

I missed the first 20 minutes, so I was a little confused, but the rest of the episode was fantastic! I can't wait for the final 3 episodes! It looks like we are going to finally get some major questions answered.

[Moose]

A lot of information given out tonight.

A lot of connections made.

Plenty to chew on.

:cool:

I thought it continued a seires of episodes that have not only answered questions, but set things in motion for what I am anticipating to be an explosive, fatal and maddening Season 3 fiale, shtexas.

And I'm not trusting anyone at this point...which makes for great television.

[shtexas]

I thought it continued a seires of episodes that have not only answered questions, but set things in motion for what I am anticipating to be an explosive, fatal and maddening Season 3 fiale, shtexas.

And I'm not trusting anyone at this point...which makes for great television.

True. I was thinking about that when they chose Sayid as someone they can trust.

[Moose]

True. I was thinking about that when they chose Sayid as someone they can trust.

EXACTLY!

speaking of which, what was he digging for? And why did he get a grin on his face when the shovel went "ping"?

[shtexas]

EXACTLY!

speaking of which, what was he digging for? And why did he get a grin on his face when the shovel went "ping"?

Beats me.

Sawyer may be the most trustworthy in the bunch. Other leader types seem to have their own agenda.

[TennisAnyone74]

This Just In:

ABC details final three ‘Lost’ seasons



Emmy-winning series to run 48 more episodes, 16 episodes per year

By Nellie Andreeva
Hollywood Reporter
Updated: 1 hour, 51 minutes ago


LOS ANGELES - ABC has set an end date for “Lost.”
The Emmy-winning adventure series will run for 48 more episodes over three seasons. Each season will consist of 16 episodes, which will air uninterrupted.
“Lost” executive producers/showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, who have been vocal about setting up an endgame for the show, have signed on to stay for the remainder of the series’ run. Their separate new eight-figure deals with “Lost” producer ABC TV Studio include their services on the show as well as multiyear development pacts set to kick in when “Lost” bows out during the 2009-10 season....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18532839/?GT1=9951

So now we know. Three more seasons. I'll have to buy the DVD boxed set when it comes out!

TA

[Moose]

This Just In:

ABC details final three ‘Lost’ seasons



Emmy-winning series to run 48 more episodes, 16 episodes per year

By Nellie Andreeva
Hollywood Reporter
Updated: 1 hour, 51 minutes ago


LOS ANGELES - ABC has set an end date for “Lost.”
The Emmy-winning adventure series will run for 48 more episodes over three seasons. Each season will consist of 16 episodes, which will air uninterrupted.
“Lost” executive producers/showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, who have been vocal about setting up an endgame for the show, have signed on to stay for the remainder of the series’ run. Their separate new eight-figure deals with “Lost” producer ABC TV Studio include their services on the show as well as multiyear development pacts set to kick in when “Lost” bows out during the 2009-10 season....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18532839/?GT1=9951

So now we know. Three more seasons. I'll have to buy the DVD boxed set when it comes out!

TA

thanks for the story, TA...and glad to have you back in our Lost discussion thread.

It's a unique commitment. It's, from what I understand, the first time a network has ever given a three year commitment to a TV show. Even though Lost's ratings have tumbled a bit, it is still the most TIVO'd show on TV (which doesn't get counted in Nielsen ratings) - over 20% of its audience TIVOs Lost every week.

Also interesting that its a 16 week season the next 3 years...traditionally, a show is 22 or 23 episodes. ABC will run the series consecutively from February through May for the next three years, no repeats, no start and stop like they did this season.

[shtexas]

So, now we know when the end is coming.

This show is starting to sound like 9/11 conspiracy theories. You know, the one where United 93 never crashed but safely landed in Cleveland and the people are "somewhere else". Insulting, I know.

But, with the latest revelation in Lost about their flight wreckage being found and there being no survivors, yet here they are on the island, it looks like Lost is heading that sort of direction.

[Moose]

okay, for either the 3rd or 4th week in a row, I can say "I did NOT see THAT coming!". But talk about flipping what was one of the happiest moments on Lost all season (Hurley, Sawyer, Jin and Charlie's "Little Miss Sunshine" moment) into a horror backstory....

And what they have done with Juliet is nothing short of brilliant.

[shtexas]

I'll say one thing: Ben's childhood sure was a mess.

And that one other, played by Nestor Carbonell, (is he Richard?) was already an adult when Ben was a teenager yet hasn't aged much. Lol!

Odd episode. Nothing seemed to happen, yet a lot important happened.

"Help me"

[Moose]

I'll say one thing: Ben's childhood sure was a mess.

And that one other, played by Nestor Carbonell, (is he Richard?) was already an adult when Ben was a teenager yet hasn't aged much. Lol!

Odd episode. Nothing seemed to happen, yet a lot important happened.

"Help me"

yes, he is Richard...and that is one odd little twist in the whole thing.

there was someone in the chair....very slow pan revealed it.

And since this is the same Locke that was able to walk, I'm thinking that the shot isn't the end.

[Moose]

WOW! awesome set up for what should be a totally over the top season finale. Everything is in its right place.

Nice to see Bernard and Rose again...I wonder if they know their Phil Collins tape is missing.

The stuff with Charlie was touching and wonderful. An outstanding way to do a backstory, focused on all the "good" in his life as it comes down to a key moment. Think that's when Lost is at its absolute best, when it humanizes one of its characters in the face of bad things ahead. I'm certain the woman in the alley appeared before, I think as part of one of Sayid's backstories, but I'm not certain.

Also so glad to see Jack reemerge as (what appears to be) a leader with some emotional edge.

There's at least a quadruple play in store with the two hour finale...Locke, Charlie, the beach w/ Sayid, Jin and Bernard, and the radio tower crew. I am so freaking excited!

[TennisAnyone74]

Moose,

I believe I read somewhere that the woman in the alley is "Nadia" - Sayid's true love for whom he's been searching.

TA

[Moose]

and tonight...the "game changing" finale.

I was a little disappointed with how the show began its third season, but after the last few weeks, I don't think there's anything on television that even comes close. The intensity, the production values, the storylines, the set up for the confrontation...and characters that you love, and don't trust one iota. The last few weeks of "Lost" have been one moment of brilliance after another.

Been staying away from any of the Lost boards, cause I want tonight to be completely tease-proof for me. But the commercials have me salivating...

at least 4 open storylines that need to get addressed this evening. 1) Locke, 2) Charlie, 3) Sayid, Bernard and Jin vs. one group of Others, and 4) the remaining members heading toward the radio tower. And that's only a start.

No way everything gets wrapped up, but I hope there is so big time payoff for what has been a perfect set up to tonight's episode. I can't imagine them having done a better job in getting up to the point of this finale.

[shtexas]

and tonight...the "game changing" finale.

I was a little disappointed with how the show began its third season, but after the last few weeks, I don't think there's anything on television that even comes close. The intensity, the production values, the storylines, the set up for the confrontation...and characters that you love, and don't trust one iota. The last few weeks of "Lost" have been one moment of brilliance after another.

Been staying away from any of the Lost boards, cause I want tonight to be completely tease-proof for me. But the commercials have me salivating...

at least 4 open storylines that need to get addressed this evening. 1) Locke, 2) Charlie, 3) Sayid, Bernard and Jin vs. one group of Others, and 4) the remaining members heading toward the radio tower. And that's only a start.

No way everything gets wrapped up, but I hope there is so big time payoff for what has been a perfect set up to tonight's episode. I can't imagine them having done a better job in getting up to the point of this finale.

I'm just hoping I can see it tonight instead of watching it later. I was called back to work last night for 2 1/4 hours and same thing may happen tonight.

The main reason I want to see it tonight is that if it's as big a deal as it looks, I would have to avoid all the morning shows tomorrow and all the news, and this board, etc.

[Moose]

I'm just hoping I can see it tonight instead of watching it later. I was called back to work last night for 2 1/4 hours and same thing may happen tonight.

The main reason I want to see it tonight is that if it's as big a deal as it looks, I would have to avoid all the morning shows tomorrow and all the news, and this board, etc.

if its as big a deal as it looks, shtexas, I don't see any scenario that would let you avoid finding out what happened, absent a sensory deprivation tank. I have no idea what is going to happen, but I think its going to be huge.

[Moose]

I think last night's episode was about as satisfying a season finale as they could have possibly come up with. I'm still feeling a buzz this a.m. over how much I enjoyed what unfolded.

Won't mention details since we don't know if shtexas got to see it yet.

[Lone-star]

Gotta agree with you, Moose :yes: That'll keep us guessing and formulating. Excellent season finale!

[shtexas]

I think last night's episode was about as satisfying a season finale as they could have possibly come up with. I'm still feeling a buzz this a.m. over how much I enjoyed what unfolded.

Won't mention details since we don't know if shtexas got to see it yet.

I got home at 5 minutes til the start. Lol!

It was truly great!

I guess we will have flash-forwards from now on?

[Moose]

good. You got to see it.

There were too many great moments to list. Charlie was spectacular, and will be sadly missed. What a triumphant exit.

But Hurley had the scene of the night (and possibly the season).

I could go on and on. I can't beleive how much a show that impresses me regularly went out on such a huge high note to end its third season.

[shtexas]

good. You got to see it.

There were too many great moments to list. Charlie was spectacular, and will be sadly missed. What a triumphant exit.

But Hurley had the scene of the night (and possibly the season).

I could go on and on. I can't beleive how much a show that impresses me regularly went out on such a huge high note to end its third season.

I agree about Charlie.

They didn't have guns, and they didn't want Hurley, so Hurley used the death van to save their asses. Lol!

The sudden appearance of Walt? (I saw the kids name in the credits, so I knew he'd show up at some point).

Danielle meets her daughter.

Ben finally tells the truth about something - they are not supposed to leave the island.

Excellent episode for Jack. Fox showed himself to be quite the actor - on the island and in the flash"back"

The end with Jack and Kate, an obit, and a declaration they made a mistake and should have stayed was really something to sink your teeth into and ponder until next February.

I wonder what direction they are going to tell the story next year? Maybe from the island with flash forwards (like last night) or from where Jack and Kate stood at the end of the episode with flash backs to the island and how they got off?

[Moose]

I agree about Charlie.

They didn't have guns, and they didn't want Hurley, so Hurley used the death van to save their asses. Lol!

The sudden appearance of Walt? (I saw the kids name in the credits, so I knew he'd show up at some point).

Danielle meets her daughter.

Ben finally tells the truth about something - they are not supposed to leave the island.

Excellent episode for Jack. Fox showed himself to be quite the actor - on the island and in the flash"back"

The end with Jack and Kate, an obit, and a declaration they made a mistake and should have stayed was really something to sink your teeth into and ponder until next February.

I wonder what direction they are going to tell the story next year? Maybe from the island with flash forwards (like last night) or from where Jack and Kate stood at the end of the episode with flash backs to the island and how they got off?

yeah, I noticed as well that Walt's name popped up in the opening credits. He's gotten so much older in the 3 months they've been there!

When Jack was on his cell in the opening, I had thought he said "Kaye" when he began leaving his message. And was scratching my head the whole episode thrying to remember who Kaye was. Turned out it was Kate.

Sawyer's "this is for taking the boy" was sheer menace. He's getting darker, which is a good thing for the overall show. And I am so curious if Sawyer is the "he" Kate said she had to get home to at the airport.

Jin and Sun's scene on the beach before they left for the radio tower...and Jin speaking in English...these two always get to me. Love their characters.

Juliet's line to Sawyer..."there aren't any guns". And the look on Sawyer's face.

and that's only a start.

[shtexas]

Funny thing about the cell phone Moose. I thought immediately it looked newer than a 2004 model cell phone. I thought they had made a mistake using it. I should have known better.

[Moose]

Funny thing about the cell phone Moose. I thought immediately it looked newer than a 2004 model cell phone. I thought they had made a mistake using it. I should have known better.

I missed that one as well.

and wasn't Jack's father the head of surgery? When the new doctor introduced himself as the new chief of surgery, there was what should have been a 2nd hint.

[shtexas]

I missed that one as well.

and wasn't Jack's father the head of surgery? When the new doctor introduced himself as the new chief of surgery, there was what should have been a 2nd hint.

That was a good hint too. Never mind he was on that same airline at the start of the show (a golden pass - Lol!)

[TennisAnyone74]

Hey, y'all!

Two things I'll add about last night -well, maybe a few more:
1) I was thinking that Sawyer was the "he" in the casket, especially when Kate said something like why would she go see him or go to his funeral. Since I like Sawyer, it gave me hope that maybe Sawyer was the "he" Kate had to get back to. Moose, you're right. Sawyer is becoming a darker character. He has killed two people in the last three weeks - this one without an ounce of remorse.

2) When Jack was confronted by the new chief of surgery after stealing the pills, didn't Jack say something about going upstairs to see his dad and seeing which one of them is drunker? Did I hear that wrong because I could have sworn that Jack's dad is dead, right?

3) I've never been a fan of Charlie's and actually wanted him to die because I've not known his purpose for a while, but his role in this last episode changed my mind. He did a brilliant job and actually made me sad to see him die. So now I see him as a hero and he's gone up in my estimation.

4) ShTexas, I hadn't thought about how the story will be told next season, but your takes are quite thought provoking. I can't wait to see what they will do now. February is TOO long to wait!

5) Finally one last observation on the dead person: my initial reaction was that the person who died is black. The people out on the street were black and the funeral director was black. I was wondering why Jack had come to a black neighborhood until I saw the coffin. So I was thinking the person dead might be Michael. Even though he killed two people on the island, they were people from the tailies that Kate hadn't bonded with, so I thought her animosity might have been too strong for it to be Michael. But then again, he is the one who betrayed them and led them to the others, so who knows.

TA

[Jack]

I don't know if you've seen these, but I thought they were pretty funny.

A season 3 Lost recap (before the finale):
http://ack-attack.livejournal.com/370261.html#cutid1

And a recap of the finale:
http://ack-attack.livejournal.com/374036.html#cutid1

[Moose]

anyone else see this on YouTube? Some fan took the crash from the three different perspectives we have seen thus far, and created a 5 minute montage. Incredibly well done. And fascinating to see it presented in this format

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu3SxqSrAOM

[Moose]

big casting rumor floating around this week is that Kristen Bell ("Veroinca Mars") is real close to signing on to a role for the 4th season of "Lost". There are at least two new major characters being introduced.

[JTContinental]

big casting rumor floating around this week is that Kristen Bell ("Veroinca Mars") is real close to signing on to a role for the 4th season of "Lost". There are at least two new major characters being introduced.


Secretly, I wishing for this not to happen, as I still cling delusionally to the hope that they will resurrect Veronica Mars in some way, shape or form.

[aedra1119]

big casting rumor floating around this week is that Kristen Bell ("Veroinca Mars") is real close to signing on to a role for the 4th season of "Lost". There are at least two new major characters being introduced.

Hmmm...more new characters? Yes, let's add more intrigue to "Lost." ;)

Are Michael and Walt ever going to come back?

I'm really excited to see how they are going to spin the "flash forwards" now.

Hahaha, Moose, now you have me thinking of "Lost" again and all of these random thoughts are floating around in my head.

Ugh, I hate that we have to wait until February for the new season.

[Moose]

Hmmm...more new characters? Yes, let's add more intrigue to "Lost." ;)

Are Michael and Walt ever going to come back?

I'm really excited to see how they are going to spin the "flash forwards" now.

Hahaha, Moose, now you have me thinking of "Lost" again and all of these random thoughts are floating around in my head.

Ugh, I hate that we have to wait until February for the new season.

Well, I can answer one of your questions Aedra. Michael will be back next season. That's allready been disclosed.

[aedra1119]

Well, I can answer one of your questions Aedra. Michael will be back next season. That's allready been disclosed.

Thanks. I haven't been following all the behind-the-scenes stuff.

[Moose]

As a prelude to the launch in February 2008 (though who knows with the writer's strike), ABC has begun running fresh Lost videos on their site, which are designed to whet your interest for the upcoming 4th season, while also taking you into some of the characters' stories.

The first two are up on the site..Hurley is featured in one, Jack in the other:


http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/missingpieces/index

[nelslus]

As a prelude to the launch in February 2008 (though who knows with the writer's strike), ABC has begun running fresh Lost videos on their site, which are designed to whet your interest for the upcoming 4th season, while also taking you into some of the characters' stories.

The first two are up on the site..Hurley is featured in one, Jack in the other:


http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/missingpieces/index

It's funny- I just got a message about this via my Hotmail address. I'm tempted to watch.....but would prefer if you or someone else will be Our TAT Guinea Pig first and let us know if it's worth watching these teasers.....

[Moose]

the Official Season 4 Trailer...

CbY_dWObLho


If anyone is interested, Zap2It breaks it down second by second. Things are looking a little ominous. February cannot come soon enough!

[Moose]

The Zap2It link:

http://blog.zap2it.com/lost/2007/12/the-season-4-tr.html


and, FYI, they've move Lost to Thursday night at 9:00 p.m. for February.

[shtexas]

The Zap2It link:

http://blog.zap2it.com/lost/2007/12/the-season-4-tr.html


and, FYI, they've move Lost to Thursday night at 9:00 p.m. for February.

I'm not looking.

That's a good timeslot. I guess they did it since Grey's will be in repeats (as will the competition - CSI).

[Moose]

I'm not looking.

That's a good timeslot. I guess they did it since Grey's will be in repeats (as will the competition - CSI).

I figured you wouldn't look.

With the writers strike, even if it settled tomorrow, most shows estimate they won't have new episodes available til March. What this does is give ABC appointment television on the night of the week when ads traditionally cost the most money (since movies open on Friday), and gets them out of the way of American Idol, which will probably do stunt programming and extended shows on Wednesdays that would possibly cut into the "Lost" audience.

[Moose]

They are kicking promotion for the 4th season premiere into high gear these last couple of days, it seems. The minute long promo is just outstanding.

Matthew Fox has the cover of the new Entertainment Weekly, with an exceptional (though sadly far too brief) article on the inside. A little bit more info, though no huge reveals (only some teases that are intriguing, to put it mildly). Discusses the body in the casket without saying who it is (though he and Evangeline Lily know).

I don't know if I am more excited for the Australian, or for Jan. 31's season debut.

[ptmcmahon]

I'm avoiding this thread like the plague. We started season one on DVD in September and loved it. Got Season Two in November and Season Three this week (not started it yet.)

Once we finish season three I'll come back to this thread, but I have to watch out for now.

[Jack]

I'll have to watch the season 3 finale again, because I know I can't remember it all. Same for BSG when it starts up again.

Oh, and According to Jim, too. The plot on that show gets so complex.

[nelslus]

I'll have to watch the season 3 finale again, because I know I can't remember it all. Same for BSG when it starts up again.

Oh, and According to Jim, too. The plot on that show gets so complex.

Courtney Thorne-Smith's final episode mad scene (especially the scene when she tears out Kimberly Williams' eyes) just tore my heart out.

[Jack]

Courtney Thorne-Smith's final episode mad scene (especially the scene when she tears out Kimberly Williams' eyes) just tore my heart out.

It was less impressive once I learned that it wasn't really acting skills and special effects - Courtney really did rip out Kimberly's eyes. She's still at large.

[Moose]

Repeat of the season 3 finale tomorrow, then its the first of 8 fresh episodes Thursday night. It seems like an eternity since "We've got to go back".

LA Times has a great column today, with 48 (of course, the same # as the number of remaining episodes in the series, as well as the first two "numbers" in the sequence) Lost questions that NEED to be answered (note to shtexas: there are no spoilers in the article so it's safe for you to read):

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/01/lost-48-pending.html

[shtexas]

Repeat of the season 3 finale tomorrow, then its the first of 8 fresh episodes Thursday night. It seems like an eternity since "We've got to go back".

LA Times has a great column today, with 48 (of course, the same # as the number of remaining episodes in the series, as well as the first two "numbers" in the sequence) Lost questions that NEED to be answered (note to shtexas: there are no spoilers in the article so it's safe for you to read):

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/01/lost-48-pending.html

Ok. I'll check it out in a little bit.

I'm very excited!

[TennisAnyone74]

Repeat of the season 3 finale tomorrow, then its the first of 8 fresh episodes Thursday night. It seems like an eternity since "We've got to go back".

LA Times has a great column today, with 48 (of course, the same # as the number of remaining episodes in the series, as well as the first two "numbers" in the sequence) Lost questions that NEED to be answered (note to shtexas: there are no spoilers in the article so it's safe for you to read):

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/01/lost-48-pending.html

Moose,

I logged on specifically to see if there was any new "Lost" post by you, since tonight is the beginning in a way. I actually went to the "George W . . ." thread and saw your avatar and knew there had to be something. I know you're excited, and so am I. I'm glad they're showing the finale tonight because I know I've forgotten more than I remember. Then tomorrow night - I don't know if I'll watch it in real time or tape it and watch the tape so I can stop and start. I'm also excited to see the new series "Eli Stone". I'm sure YOU know why!

TA

[Moose]

I'm also excited to see the new series "Eli Stone". I'm sure YOU know why!

TA

I have been thinking of you almost daily for the past couple of weeks...every time I hear that Eli Stone commercial!

I'm in countdown mode for tomorrow, TA. I cannot wait to see what the 1st episode of Season 4 brings. I've been dying with doing all I can to avoid spoilers, because I want to be surprised, and I've allready read too much by accident. But, boy, what I have read....is GOOD!

[ptmcmahon]

We did it...we caught up!

The highlight was probably Hugo coming to the rescue in the bus.

Lowlight were Mr. Ekko dieing. Did they have to?

Before watching all I remember people saying is that it kept getting weirder and weirder...but we loved it all! Looking forward to tomorrow night, glad we caught up in time!

[ptmcmahon]

LA Times has a great column today, with 48 (of course, the same # as the number of remaining episodes in the series, as well as the first two "numbers" in the sequence) Lost questions that NEED to be answered (note to shtexas: there are no spoilers in the article so it's safe for you to read):

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/01/lost-48-pending.html

Don't we know the answer to #20? They had some way at the communication station of finding the flight list. Ethan and Goodwin investigated both sides and found out who was alive.

And #5 - didn't he say they hadn't set the voltage to "kill" just to "stun" (or something like that)

[munchin]

Don't we know the answer to #20? They had some way at the communication station of finding the flight list. Ethan and Goodwin investigated both sides and found out who was alive.

And #5 - didn't he say they hadn't set the voltage to "kill" just to "stun" (or something like that)


But then he got shot in the chest with a harpoon gun. Seemed fine (and very mischievous) a few minutes later.

[Moose]

But then he got shot in the chest with a harpoon gun. Seemed fine (and very mischievous) a few minutes later.

You gotta wonder how many times he is going to die. Only to live again. Sorta like the Hydra.

[aedra1119]

I'm SO excited Lost is back! I've also forgotten most of the details of the finale, so I'm glad they're showing it again. Yay! :D

[oohsalmon]

Lowlight were Mr. Ekko dieing. Did they have to?


They have gotten rid of just about every Tailie, the only one left in the main cast is Bernard (who was only in one Season 3 episode).

[munchin]

Lowlight were Mr. Ekko dieing. Did they have to?


I actually think they did. I think Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje asked to be written out.

[Moose]

They have gotten rid of just about every Tailie, the only one left in the main cast is Bernard (who was only in one Season 3 episode).

And the Tailie kids...last seen trotting along barefoot, with one carrying a Teddy Bear.

[oohsalmon]

And the Tailie kids...last seen trotting along barefoot, with one carrying a Teddy Bear.

Cindy the flight attendant too, but I was just talking about more major roles.

[ptmcmahon]

But then he got shot in the chest with a harpoon gun. Seemed fine (and very mischievous) a few minutes later.

Oops, forgot that.

Anyone watch last night? I did for a bit, but it'd been so recently that I saw the finale I stopped, didn't really learn to much new (besides that Bernard was selected as a shooter because he hunted phesants.) Anything of interest come out of it?

I'd add (at least) two questions to the list from the article..

- Is Kate pregnant?
- Will Jack and Claire discover they are related?

[munchin]

Damn, The Jeopardy Online test is tonight and starts at 8pm PST. Lost starts at 8pm PST. There's no way I'm missing the first 20 minutes of this. Makes me wish I had DVR. I guess I'll just record it and watch it in entirety later...

[Moose]

okay. First episode over. Warning...if you are TIVO'ing or taping, it runs to about 10:03.

and other than that.... WOW . I'll repeat that. WOW . I can't wait til a few more people see it so we can discuss it a bit.

[shtexas]

okay. First episode over. Warning...if you are TIVO'ing or taping, it runs to about 10:03.

and other than that.... WOW . I'll repeat that. WOW . I can't wait til a few more people see it so we can discuss it a bit.

It was very good. Nice set-up to start a season. A few surprises. Things to think about. Don't want to say too much since the West Coast hasn't seen it yet.

[aedra1119]

It was awesome. WELL worth the long wait! I can't wait to see the rest of the episodes.

I don't want to say anything until it's finished airing in the other time zones.

[oohsalmon]

Damn, The Jeopardy Online test is tonight and starts at 8pm PST. Lost starts at 8pm PST. There's no way I'm missing the first 20 minutes of this. Makes me wish I had DVR. I guess I'll just record it and watch it in entirety later...

Crap, I totally missed the eastern time zone test!

I signed up for the pacific time zone test tonight...hopefully they let me take it.

Anyhow, good luck!

Oh, and at least on the east coast, 8-9 pm was a clip show.

[Jack]

Oops, forgot that.

Anyone watch last night? I did for a bit, but it'd been so recently that I saw the finale I stopped, didn't really learn to much new (besides that Bernard was selected as a shooter because he hunted phesants.) Anything of interest come out of it?

I'd add (at least) two questions to the list from the article..

- Is Kate pregnant?
- Will Jack and Claire discover they are related?

I had to read this three times before I realized this didn't say "Will Jack and Claire discover they are retarded?" I think the stress of my job is getting to me.

[munchin]

Damn, The Jeopardy Online test is tonight and starts at 8pm PST. Lost starts at 8pm PST. There's no way I'm missing the first 20 minutes of this. Makes me wish I had DVR. I guess I'll just record it and watch it in entirety later...


Thank god there's this Lost recap on first. I can do the jeopardy test in total concentration.

[oohsalmon]

Thank god there's this Lost recap on first. I can do the jeopardy test in total concentration.

That test TOTALLY kicked my ass.

The last one was way easier :mad:.

[munchin]

That test TOTALLY kicked my ass.

The last one was way easier :mad:.


I thought this one was better than the last one. The last one totally kicked my ass. I don't know if the questions were the same for you, but this one seemed to ask a ton about authors, which I never forget.

[oohsalmon]

I thought this one was better than the last one. The last one totally kicked my ass. I don't know if the questions were the same for you, but this one seemed to ask a ton about authors, which I never forget.

I got some author stuff. I blanked on Chekhov's name for who wrote Uncle Vanya and the Seagull, and had no idea what Ryan Gosling movie they were talking about, among other misses I already blocked out.

I'm mostly just grateful they let me take the test even though I'm not in PST.

I hope you get called back :)

[Moose]

Thank god there's this Lost recap on first. I can do the jeopardy test in total concentration.

Munchin and Salmon:

You both are trying to get on Jeopardy? Outstanding. I was on "Wheel Of Fortune" about 20 years ago.

[Martini4me]

The "Oceanic Six". That was a nice little teaser. I imagine they'll string us along for a while before we learn the identities of all of them.

The only mild disappointment was that, when it was over, you realized that the story on the island really hadn't advanced that much. They spent a lot of time on the flash-forwards (or do we now call the scenes on the island flash-backs?).

[munchin]

The "Oceanic Six". That was a nice little teaser. I imagine they'll string us along for a while before we learn the identities of all of them.

The only mild disappointment was that, when it was over, you realized that the story on the island really hadn't advanced that much. They spent a lot of time on the flash-forwards (or do we now call the scenes on the island flash-backs?).


That's exactly how I felt. I was not incredibly satisfied by the episode. I thought all the stuff in the flash-forward was gold, though. "In Lost We Trust," though. I feel like everything we see on that show is totally intentional and planned and paced exactly the way they want it to be (unlike my love/hate show, 24). I will be patient.

[Moose]

The only mild disappointment was that, when it was over, you realized that the story on the island really hadn't advanced that much. They spent a lot of time on the flash-forwards (or do we now call the scenes on the island flash-backs?).

I thought the division into two groups was a huge development. As well as learning that the House of Jacob is apparantly non-static. And that Jack isn't the only person that sees Jack's father.

[munchin]

I thought the division into two groups was a huge development. As well as learning that the House of Jacob is apparantly non-static. And that Jack isn't the only person that sees Jack's father.


What? I missed that part i think.

[oohsalmon]

What? I missed that part i think.

Me too.

Say wha?

[Moose]

Christian was the person sitting in Jacob's chair when Hurley looked inside the house.

[munchin]

Christian was the person sitting in Jacob's chair when Hurley looked inside the house.


Seriously? I couldn't even make out his face.

[pingponger]

I thought the division into two groups was a huge development. As well as learning that the House of Jacob is apparantly non-static. And that Jack isn't the only person that sees Jack's father.



What? I missed that part i think.

I missed that too Moose, who else sees Jack's father?



Christian was the person sitting in Jacob's chair when Hurley looked inside the house.

Who is Christian? I'm drawing a blank...

[shtexas]

I missed that too Moose, who else sees Jack's father?




Who is Christian? I'm drawing a blank...

Charlie's Dad.

You have to remember, Moose reads Lost boards so he is on a first name basis with every character. ;)

[zephblabs]

I'm surprised to say, but yes. I finally gave in and watched lost for the first time yesterday, and (surprisingly) i wasn't lost.

PS: I so need to change my avatar.

[oohsalmon]

Charlie's Dad.

You have to remember, Moose reads Lost boards so he is on a first name basis with every character. ;)

Jack and Claire's dad, actually :)

And I really don't think he was in last night's episode.

[shtexas]

Jack and Claire's dad, actually :)

And I really don't think he was in last night's episode.

I didn't know who it was in the chair in Jacob's cabin.

Is it speculation on the boards or official?

The reason I ask is in the days of Buffy, people saw all sorts of things I swear was never intended and speculation was passed off as fact.

[Moose]

Jack and Claire's dad, actually :)

And I really don't think he was in last night's episode.


Zap2It, CNN, Entertainment Weekly and TMZ's "Lost Diary" all say it was Christian. "Lost Diary" has the screen cap of the scene, showing it was him.

[Moose]

Here's the screen cap.

http://cache.lostpedia.com/images/a/a5/Cap08.jpg

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Cap08.jpg

[ptmcmahon]

Wow...now THAT would be a twist. I couldn't make out the person - I was just thinking if Hurley can see him...does that make him as special as Locke?

I enjoyed the episode...you can tell they took it a bit slow (they seem to really be pushing it for new people) but it was a good start. And next week we'll find who these people on the boat really are...RIGHT?

[shtexas]

Here's the screen cap.

http://cache.lostpedia.com/images/a/a5/Cap08.jpg

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Cap08.jpg

Yep. That's him.

[ptmcmahon]

The "Oceanic Six". That was a nice little teaser. I imagine they'll string us along for a while before we learn the identities of all of them.

Yeah, my big question is...who are the other three then?

My total guess for now... Sawyer, Desmond, Sayid. I think my guesses when I was watching the show was completely different...Desmond's the only one I have a strong feeling will be on of the other three.

Oh wait...he's not really an "Oceanic" is he? Guess he doesn't go...alright my new guess is Claire (with Aaron not counting as one of the "six.")

[Jack]

Yeah, my big question is...who are the other three then?

My total guess for now... Sawyer, Desmond, Sayid. I think my guesses when I was watching the show was completely different...Desmond's the only one I have a strong feeling will be on of the other three.

Oh wait...he's not really an "Oceanic" is he? Guess he doesn't go...alright my new guess is Claire (with Aaron not counting as one of the "six.")

I was thinking Sun and Jin... death sentence for her if she stays on the island.

[Moose]

Yeah, my big question is...who are the other three then?

My total guess for now... Sawyer, Desmond, Sayid. I think my guesses when I was watching the show was completely different...Desmond's the only one I have a strong feeling will be on of the other three.

Oh wait...he's not really an "Oceanic" is he? Guess he doesn't go...alright my new guess is Claire (with Aaron not counting as one of the "six.")

I'd want to beleive that Juliet is one of the 6, because she would clearly hang with Jack. But I think the fact that they specifically call them the "Oceanic 6" eliminates Juliet. And Ben, Rosseau, Rosseau's daughter and Carl (her boyfriend).

[Jack]

I'd want to beleive that Juliet is one of the 6, because she would clearly hang with Jack. But I think the fact that they specifically call them the "Oceanic 6" eliminates Juliet. And Ben, Rosseau, Rosseau's daughter and Carl (her boyfriend).

I want to believe Vincent makes it off.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n124/jrcunniff/vincent2.jpg

[Moose]

I want to believe Vincent makes it off.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n124/jrcunniff/vincent2.jpg

I saw the preview of his backstory. He gets Lassie hooked on booze and drugs, and pimps her out outside of the Westminster show.

[Moose]

Wow. Yum. Eek! Once again, the paradigm shifts.


I am absolutely loving Season 4 after the first two eps. Looking forward to everyone else's opinion.

[shtexas]

Wow. Yum. Eek! Once again, the paradigm shifts.


I am absolutely loving Season 4 after the first two eps. Looking forward to everyone else's opinion.

Just what we need; more new people with backstories. :mad:

;)

[Moose]

Just what we need; more new people with backstories.


Aside from that, how did you enjoy the show, Mrs. Lincoln?

[shtexas]

BTW: Is the pilot Jeff Fahey?

[Moose]

BTW: Is the pilot Jeff Fahey?

Yes. Are you a fan of "Lawnmower Man"? I'd think Maid Marion is.

[TennisAnyone74]

I kinda agree with shtexas. I wish we'd get a few answers instead of alot more questions. And introducing 4 more new people - make that 5 with the character that visited Hurley included (glad to see that "Lost" is bringing "black" back to the show, though! ;)) - just seems like overload. And at least one more person will have to come into play - Ben's spy. And I'm ready for Michael and Walt's return. That should be explosive! Are they on the freighter? Now that I think about it - is Michael Ben's spy? Seems plausible. So keep that number at 5!

TA

[Moose]

I kinda agree with shtexas. I wish we'd get a few answers instead of alot more questions. And introducing 4 more new people - make that 5 with the character that visited Hurley included (glad to see that "Lost" is bringing "black" back to the show, though! ;)) - just seems like overload. And at least one more person will have to come into play - Ben's spy. And I'm ready for Michael and Walt's return. That should be explosive! Are they on the freighter? Now that I think about it - is Michael Ben's spy? Seems plausible. So keep that number at 5!

TA

There you are, my friend!

I think Michael is one of two possibilities for Ben's spy. I think the other could be Charlotte (the woman he shot), and he was just saying she was still on the boat as part of one of his many mindgames.

I think them coming for Ben is somehow tied into Ben's having been a part of the mass murder of the Dharma people. And I also found it real interesting that Ben and his people aren't the only ones who studied who all the passengers were on Oceanic 815.

[TennisAnyone74]

[quote=Moose;226018]There you are, my friend!

I think Michael is one of two possibilities for Ben's spy. I think the other could be Charlotte (the woman he shot), and he was just saying she was still on the boat as part of one of his many mindgames.quote]

Hey Moose!

It's still not connecting in my mind who Charlotte is. Can you explain a bit more about who she is?

I love the Oceanic 6 and am looking forward to another reveal next week. I'm thinking that the 6 will get off the island sometime during this season (helicopter to freighter to home) and return to the island for the "others". That is, if the writer's strike doesn't prevent a full season of Lost. Grr! The more I think about last season's final episode, the more I become convinced that the person in the coffin is Michael, with Ben as an after thought. But one thing is for sure, the Oceanic Six are not done with the island (or is it the Island is not done with the Oceanic Six?)!

TA

[Moose]

Hey Moose!

It's still not connecting in my mind who Charlotte is. Can you explain a bit more about who she is?

TA:
Charlotte was the woman that was on last night - the one that whose parachute was caught on the limb, and ended up with Lcoke, Ben and that group.




I love the Oceanic 6 and am looking forward to another reveal next week. I'm thinking that the 6 will get off the island sometime during this season (helicopter to freighter to home) and return to the island for the "others". That is, if the writer's strike doesn't prevent a full season of Lost. Grr! The more I think about last season's final episode, the more I become convinced that the person in the coffin is Michael, with Ben as an after thought. But one thing is for sure, the Oceanic Six are not done with the island (or is it the Island is not done with the Oceanic Six?)!

TA

oh yeah...the whole idea of the 6 is one of the many fascinating concepts introduced this season. I have a good idea who one of the remaining ones is, but the other two could be anybody.

[aedra1119]

And I also found it real interesting that Ben and his people aren't the only ones who studied who all the passengers were on Oceanic 815.

That surprised me, too. Maybe it's just because the plane crashed near the island? But knowing Lost, there is probably some other hidden meaning.

I like the new characters, but I was getting confused by the flashbacks thinking at first they were flash forwards. Too much for me, lol.

[oohsalmon]

oh yeah...the whole idea of the 6 is one of the many fascinating concepts introduced this season. I have a good idea who one of the remaining ones is, but the other two could be anybody.

I'm pretty sure one of them is Aaron. I don't see them leaving him on the island.

[Martini4me]

Just what we need; more new people with backstories. :mad:

;)

Yup, that's what I'm thinking too. So many disparate backgrounds, and how do they all connect? I can't say I particularly enjoyed yesterday's episode as I was watching it. But that may change in a few weeks once we see where this is all going.

[ptmcmahon]

I'm pretty sure one of them is Aaron. I don't see them leaving him on the island.

But can he be really one of the "oceanic six"? Was he really "on the flight"? I think that's a whole new can of worms.

Looks like they'll be pushing the oceanic six in the previews like they did this week...expect two more big promos like that one. I sort of was agreeing with the idea that this season ends with the six leaving the island, then later they go back - but can they do that in 8 episodes? Then again, next week's episode looks like a lot will happen - the two groups already at war? They just broke up 1 episode and 5 minutes ago!

[TennisAnyone74]

The only thing about the Oceanic 6 getting off the island and the rest still being there is Kate's reluctance to return. Knowing her, I'd think she'd be the main person trying to get back for the rest. But I do not think that only 6 of them survived, so . . . I guess we'll have to stay tuned to find out.

If we only get 8 episodes out of this season, that would really suck!

TA

[ptmcmahon]

Strike's over...wonder if that might bring hope of more episodes...I somehow doubt it though.

[Moose]

Strike's over...wonder if that might bring hope of more episodes...I somehow doubt it though.

There was a story in Entertainment Weekly this week about what happens when the strike ends. They indicate that at best, Lost could film 3-4 new episodes for this season.

[oohsalmon]

There was a story in Entertainment Weekly this week about what happens when the strike ends. They indicate that at best, Lost could film 3-4 new episodes for this season.

But why not extend the season into the summer?

[Moose]

But why not extend the season into the summer?

Under the "traditional" model, people are outdoors more in prime time, and going on vacation, following Memorial Day. Of course, under the traditional model, you preview 30+ TV shows in September because that's when all the new cars are introduced.

[Martini4me]

I just heard (five minutes ago) that it will take about 4 weeks to get an episode of a comedy series from conception to finished production, and 6-8 weeks for a drama. Based on that, they said a new episode of Lost could be ready the week after episode 8 airs. So there's a good chance that they can schedule the rest of this season as planned.

[ptmcmahon]

but the question is...when they did these 8 episodes, did they write and film them as if there were only going to be 8 episodes?

[Moose]

but the question is...when they did these 8 episodes, did they write and film them as if there were only going to be 8 episodes?

They have said that they had Season 4 all charted out, though not written.

They have also said that Episode 8 would be a perfectly logical place for the season to end if they do not get to film any more episodes, because whatever happens in Ep 8 sets up a cliffhanger.

Alos read today that both "24" and "Heroes" aren't even going to bother going back into production this year - they are just going to wait til the fall. And the "Pushing Daisies" people are being told that the plan is for them to relaunch in the fall as well, allthough this is not an official decision yet.

[TennisAnyone74]

There was a story in Entertainment Weekly this week about what happens when the strike ends. They indicate that at best, Lost could film 3-4 new episodes for this season.

Actually, in the article I just read, there seems to be some far off hope that we might actually get a full 16 episode season of "Lost":

If the strike’s over, where are our TV shows?

Many hit series will be back in the spring, but some may take longer

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/z_Projects_in_progress/_Ent/2007_Fall_TV/dirty_sexy_money.widec.jpg Andrew Macpherson / ABC
ABC’s “Dirty Sexy Money” garned interest, but its debut season was cut short due to the writers strike. The drama likely won’t be back on the air until early 2009.


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http://msnbcmedia1.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Sources/Art/APTRANS.gif updated 4:09 p.m. CT, Mon., Feb. 11, 2008

NEW YORK - No more writers on picket lines. No more network TV bosses scrambling for replacement shows.
But enough about them. What about us?
Two simple questions prey on every viewer’s mind: When will my favorite scripted programs be back with new episodes? And, WILL my favorite shows be back?

. . .

Getting ‘Lost’
Damon Lindelof is eager for some answers. An executive producer of ABC’s mystery serial “Lost,” he should learn this week what his show’s future holds as it closes out its fourth season.
“Lost” has been back on the air just two weeks. But the strike meant a planned 16-episode shooting schedule was halted after just eight episodes were shot. Fans braced themselves for no more this season.
“But we very much want to come back and do as many episodes as possible,” said Lindelof, who then listed a few issues that first need to be settled.
“How many episodes can best serve our story? And what are the production realities?” He noted that the shooting facility in Hawaii, 2,500 miles from his Los Angeles office, had been shuttered since Thanksgiving. The crew has dispersed, the huge cast has scattered.
The first new post-strike episode of “Lost” could possibly be ready for broadcast the week after episode eight appears, he said. There likely would be three or four more after that.

Could there be even more?
“I’d be surprised if the network wanted to air episodes deep into the summer,” he said. But if all the pieces fell into place, “Lost” fans would be blessed: “I don’t see why we couldn’t deliver all eight remaining episodes.”
That kind of zeal should warm viewers’ hearts. Lindelof and the rest of TV’s creative community seem delighted to be back.
Almost as delighted as we are.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23116598/

Whoopee!

TA

[munchin]

Just read this. Looks like there's still a lot of uncertainty



• For ABC's Lost, "we're looking at trying to make five more" episodes beyond the eight already completed, says executive producer Carlton Cuse. The original plan was to film 16, but the remaining three will be rolled into next season. Cuse says writers will "accelerate our storytelling" to get to the end point they had already mapped out for this season. "It's a little bit like driving cross country to Boston. If the goal is to get there two days earlier, we will have to take more interstates and fewer rural byways."

• Fox's 24 resumes production next month on 16 remaining episodes and will continue shooting through July, even though viewers won't see them until early 2009. The show is shooting early to avoid losing some character actors who are crucial to the plot but aren't signed to long-term contracts.

"So many of our characters aren't regulars," says executive producer Howard Gordon, so some will be busy with movie roles or pilots that will now conflict with 24's schedule. "The actors tend to have more freedom, so we need to juggle."

They'll also need to work around co-star Mary Lynn Rajskub's pregnancy; she's due in late summer.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2008-02-11-strike-production_N.htm

[aedra1119]

I recently saw a commercial, and not only do we find out another of the Oceanic 6, one of them leaves the island tonight. I don't remember hearing that in the previews last week. I guess it won't be Jack, Kate, or Hurley. Maybe Claire and the baby?

[ptmcmahon]

nope... :)

[Moose]

Dang. No wait, make that double dang.

If you are a fan, do not miss this tonight. And if you miss it, avoid anyone who will want to talk to you about it until you've seen it.

[aedra1119]

Just when I thought Lost couldn't shock me any more they pulled that! :shocked:

Stay tuned West Coasters. ;)

[shtexas]

Dang. No wait, make that double dang.

If you are a fan, do not miss this tonight. And if you miss it, avoid anyone who will want to talk to you about it until you've seen it.

No kidding!

:shocked:

[ptmcmahon]

On a non spoiler note...what's happening with Richard and the rest of the "others"...are we going to see them at all this season? Besides Richard are there any significant ones left with that group?

[munchin]

Holy crap. In the last segment I kept moving closer and closer to the TV without quite realizing it. And the show didn't end with the normal sound effect, but with more of a blaring trumpet noise and I jumped back so violently I hit my head on the wall. This show is evil.

[ptmcmahon]

When I heard the voice I thought...hey it sounds like him...but no, no way it could be him...and then...sure enough!

[Moose]

On a non spoiler note...what's happening with Richard and the rest of the "others"...are we going to see them at all this season? Besides Richard are there any significant ones left with that group?

I'm certain they can't be done with them, PT. The one I am curious about, besides Richard, is Mikhail (who was last seen with a hand grenade, apparently still not dead). I also wonder if there is somehow the possibility that Miss Clue is still alive, given how some Others apparently don't die.

Okay, my questions....who is R.C. (the engraving on Naomi's bracelet), and was Ilsa wearing an exact matching bracelet? And what woman did Ben use to get to Sayid? And what the freak is up with the clocks?

[ptmcmahon]

The clocks are showing some kinda weird time disparity - whether it be minutes, years, or what...who knows. It's showing that the island is really super out of whack. Hence the warning to go back the exact way they came...a different route might lead to...well who knows what?

I imagine Miss Clue is dead, she wasn't big enough to bother keeping alive. Patchy definitely is though!

I thought the bracelets looked similar. My theory is on the plane Sayid sees the bracelet and takes it and gives it to her later? Either that or the bracelet Isla had just reminded him of Naomi's.

Jack's running out of "main characters" on his side now it seems :)

[Martini4me]

Whoa!! Just watched this week's episode. My head is spinning now. They're spending a lot of time on the future (present?) now, so we get less story progression on the island. I'm really baffled by where it's all going now. But I did recognize the voice the first time he spoke.

[OlderfanCA]

It appears like there is some type of "war" between a Big Brother entity and rebel entity. Is Dharma a secret organization that has existed since time memoriam? Controlling and monitoring people's lives for centuries?

Is the island the only place to escape it? Or is it simply a place for emotionally bankrupt people to start over?

Obviously Ben is one of those people. He killed off the Dharma initiative so that he could control the island. He uses the Others to carry out his deeds. It appears to me that Ben not be as 'bad' of a person as we might think. His methods maybe bad, but his end result may not be.

The fact that the Dharma group is doing whatever is necessary to get to him, spells trouble to me more than Ben's leadership. As John Locke stated outside of his mouth, the guy's fairly harmless.

It is looking more and more to me that Jack may be the misguided leader.

[TennisAnyone74]

According to TvGuide.com, "Lost" has 5 pre-strike episodes in the can and will shoot 5 more episodes! Whoopee!

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Wga-Strike-Favorite/800032698

« Ausiello Report (http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/700000049) <H1>UPDATED HOURLY! After the Strike: When Your Favorites Will Return!</H1>


"At long last, a strike chart you can get excited about!

With the three-month-old WGA strike finally over (yay!), the networks are feverishly finalizing plans to salvage what's left of the current TV season. At the same time, I've been quietly picking at my moles to get a preview of those plans — the results of which appear in chart form below.

Keep in mind that the following information remains extremely tentative and is subject to change (and probably will). In other words, I strongly suggest you refresh your browser at least once an hour to ensure that you're getting the most up-to-date scoop possible.

Lost

Five pre-strike episodes remain. Expected to shoot 5 additional episodes to air in April/May."

Enjoy!

TA

[Jack]

I'm certain they can't be done with them, PT. The one I am curious about, besides Richard, is Mikhail (who was last seen with a hand grenade, apparently still not dead). I also wonder if there is somehow the possibility that Miss Clue is still alive, given how some Others apparently don't die.

Okay, my questions....who is R.C. (the engraving on Naomi's bracelet), and was Ilsa wearing an exact matching bracelet? And what woman did Ben use to get to Sayid? And what the freak is up with the clocks?

I'm not sure why, but of everyone on the island - Ben, Mikhail, etc. - It was Miss Clue that scared the living $%^&# out of me.

[oohsalmon]

Wow.

[aedra1119]

Wow.

:shocked: Shocker every week.

[shtexas]

Didn't see that coming. :shocked:

[Moose]

This one I called. About 20 minutes in. Not because of any incredible insight, or anything. Just because there has been such huge jawdroppers every week so far, it seemed that it was entirely possible.

To be honest, I'm a bit more fascinated about what was shown for the preview for next week. Or should I say, instead of what, whom .

[TennisAnyone74]

This one I called. About 20 minutes in. Not because of any incredible insight, or anything. Just because there has been such huge jawdroppers every week so far, it seemed that it was entirely possible.

To be honest, I'm a bit more fascinated about what was shown for the preview for next week. Or should I say, instead of what, whom .

Okay, Moose, you got me. Whom did I miss in the previews for next week? Don't make me have to wait until I go home and have to watch them again on tape, please! :o

TA

[Moose]

Okay, Moose, you got me. Whom did I miss in the previews for next week? Don't make me have to wait until I go home and have to watch them again on tape, please! :o

TA

I'm kind of certain that when they showed the helicopter in the previews for next week, that not only were Sayid and Desmond on board, but Faraday was as well.

They've allready established that there is a time issue when they had the clock fired to Faraday last week. I'm wondering if that had anything to do with it. Or if I just have what I think I saw totally screwed up.

Half the fun of watching Lost is watching the tape of the show a 2nd time, though, TA.

[shtexas]

I'm kind of certain that when they showed the helicopter in the previews for next week, that not only were Sayid and Desmond on board, but Faraday was as well.

They've allready established that there is a time issue when they had the clock fired to Faraday last week. I'm wondering if that had anything to do with it. Or if I just have what I think I saw totally screwed up.

Half the fun of watching Lost is watching the tape of the show a 2nd time, though, TA.

I won't do that. I remember the craziness regarding Buffy The Vampire Slayer, a show similar to Lost in its mythology. Fanatics were taping, rewatching and reading things into "clues" that had nothing to do with anything. They were even reading into someone wearing a t-shirt with the number 3 on it, or someone letting the phone ring 4 times before picking it up. Everything had to mean something. It was lunacy. I'd rather just go with the flow. I figure I pay close enough attention to get enough. If I don't catch the significance of a song choice, big deal.

[Moose]

I won't do that. I remember the craziness regarding Buffy The Vampire Slayer, a show similar to Lost in its mythology. Fanatics were taping, rewatching and reading things into "clues" that had nothing to do with anything. They were even reading into someone wearing a t-shirt with the number 3 on it, or someone letting the phone ring 4 times before picking it up. Everything had to mean something. It was lunacy. I'd rather just go with the flow. I figure I pay close enough attention to get enough. If I don't catch the significance of a song choice, big deal.

I'm more into the detail. Sure, half the stuff they throw against the wall is totally meaningless. Yet there's a richness in looking back a 2nd time especially when you don't get thrown for a loop, and can be an observer. There are little subtletites that take on new meanings, and there is always stuff that you miss.

[Martini4me]

To be honest, I'm a bit more fascinated about what was shown for the preview for next week. Or should I say, instead of what, whom .

I'm definitely looking forward to next week's episode. It at least hints at advancing the story on (or just off) the island more. I wasn't so thrilled by yesterday's. It again spent a lot of time on the future, without really adding a whole lot opf information on it.

[ptmcmahon]

See, the end made me look dumb. I was explaining how it had to be Sawyer's kid, which is why Jack wanted nothing to do with it. I even said "it's the only explanation that makes sense."

LOl at the idea of Sawyer and Hurley living together, and Sawyer's line to Kate about returning to the beach. Still funny to see Sun and Jin have been relgeated to about 30 seconds a show.

Who's that new guy in the next week preview? And how does Dan win up with Desmond? Every preview is just even more confusing!

[shtexas]

I see Entertainment Weekly has "Juicy New Plot Details." But, I will skip the article as I like to be surprised.

[munchin]

See, the end made me look dumb. I was explaining how it had to be Sawyer's kid, which is why Jack wanted nothing to do with it. I even said "it's the only explanation that makes sense."

LOl at the idea of Sawyer and Hurley living together, and Sawyer's line to Kate about returning to the beach. Still funny to see Sun and Jin have been relgeated to about 30 seconds a show.

Who's that new guy in the next week preview? And how does Dan win up with Desmond? Every preview is just even more confusing!


I have a feeling they're just keeping them in the background but visible just so we don't forget about them, but that they might get a couple episodes all to themselves this season. Their episodes tend to be the most emotionally powerful ones for me. No way they're gonna be relegated to glorified extra status.

[Martini4me]

I'm kind of certain that when they showed the helicopter in the previews for next week, that not only were Sayid and Desmond on board, but Faraday was as well.





Who's that new guy in the next week preview? And how does Dan win up with Desmond? Every preview is just even more confusing!

I originally missed that on the preview, so I just re-watched it frame-by-frame.

I still didn't see any new guy in the preview. There was a scene with Desmond and Dan together, but not on the airplane. All the guys on the plane (Desmond, Dan and the pilot) have beards, so you may have mistaken someone there. However, in the later scence (Desmond asking, "Am I going to die?"), Desmond was clean-shaven, so there's a time gap (flash-forward?, flahs-back?) between that scene and the helicopter.

[Moose]

I have a feeling they're just keeping them in the background but visible just so we don't forget about them, but that they might get a couple episodes all to themselves this season. Their episodes tend to be the most emotionally powerful ones for me. No way they're gonna be relegated to glorified extra status.

Jin and Sun had the best backstories, I always felt. And that's odd, because overall, "Lost"'s writers do a horrible job with their female characters.

I think that little banter about whether they were headed to America (Jin), or back to Korea (Sun) to raise their child this past week was designed to set something big in motion for a future episode.

[oohsalmon]

Jin and Sun had the best backstories, I always felt. And that's odd, because overall, "Lost"'s writers do a horrible job with their female characters.

I think that little banter about whether they were headed to America (Jin), or back to Korea (Sun) to raise their child this past week was designed to set something big in motion for a future episode.

Jin and Sun are my favorite flashbacks as well.

I'd be happy never seeing a Sayid flashback again. Snoozefests they are.

[Moose]

Whoa! Unsure exactly how I feel about it, but at least it was (in part) an answer.

[shtexas]

Whoa! Unsure exactly how I feel about it, but at least it was (in part) an answer.

The episode itself was fascinating. But, I could understand why some viewers might be frustrated by what it all means to the big picture.

[Moose]

The episode itself was fascinating. But, I could understand why some viewers might be frustrated by what it all means to the big picture.

My greatest fear about "Lost" is that one day the science/mythology angle trumps the personal aspects of the story. For me, its the dynamics of the relationships that make it so memorable, and has had me hooked since the first episode.

[shtexas]

My greatest fear about "Lost" is that one day the science/mythology angle trumps the personal aspects of the story. For me, its the dynamics of the relationships that make it so memorable, and has had me hooked since the first episode.

Same for me.

I also was thinking about the mythology tonight. It is far more complicated than Buffy's was, maybe even more than the X-files...and that may or may not turn out to be a good thing.

[Moose]

Same for me.

I also was thinking about the mythology tonight. It is far more complicated than Buffy's was, maybe even more than the X-files...and that may or may not turn out to be a good thing.

That's what frightens me.

Having said that, the penultimate scene was near perfect. And the subject of the auction is what makes the mythology fascinating.

[aedra1119]

The episode itself was fascinating. But, I could understand why some viewers might be frustrated by what it all means to the big picture.

I've been very patient with Lost, but tonight was the first time I became really frustrated. It was very interesting, but what does it all mean?! I hope they move the plot along sometime soon...

[pingponger]

That's what frightens me.

Having said that, the penultimate scene was near perfect. And the subject of the auction is what makes the mythology fascinating.


I'll bite, I lost focus during the auction trying to make things right in my head. What was the subject of the auction?

[munchin]

I've been very patient with Lost, but tonight was the first time I became really frustrated. It was very interesting, but what does it all mean?! I hope they move the plot along sometime soon...


I know what you mean. I was losing my patience gradually but steadily. Luckily it picked up a bit toward the end, but still. I'd vote for this as my least favorite episode so far.

[Moose]

I'll bite, I lost focus during the auction trying to make things right in my head. What was the subject of the auction?

The subject of the auction was the log book for the "Black Rock", which is the slave ship on the island. It was owned by the founder of the Hanso Foundation, and it was purchased by Penny's father.

[ptmcmahon]

Some of you may have been disappointed but I loved last night's episode. It moved the story ahead (slightly, but compared to some episodes over the original 3 seasons) - had the kinda weird stuff that sort of makes sense (in a Lost way) and the great personal story between Desmond and Penny.

Are we assuming he got his memory back after he found his anchor and remembers all, or is the 8 years in between now permanently gone?

And I believe the correct explanation is Dan sent himself in the future 8 years and was a little messed up because he was looking for Desmond?

At first I thought maybe he sent himself back, but the writing in the book makes that seem not likely.

And as for my questions about where's Jin - well in Canada Lost is on CTV, and it has short 10 second promos at the start of commericals with characters of the show. All year it had been a very old looking Jack (mostly grey hair) but last night it was Jin! Obviously he was too busy filiming the commerical to do much this season!!!

[Moose]

"Its stressful being an Other, Jack". Possibly the best line of the season, thusfar.


I absolutely loved tonight's episode. As we were discussing last week, for me, the heart of "Lost" is the relationships. And tonight was near perfect in that regard.

[shtexas]

"Its stressful being an Other, Jack". Possibly the best line of the season, thusfar.


I absolutely loved tonight's episode. As we were discussing last week, for me, the heart of "Lost" is the relationships. And tonight was near perfect in that regard.

It was interesting having an episode that went back to Lost's roots. Next week, though, looks huge.

[Moose]

It was interesting having an episode that went back to Lost's roots. Next week, though, looks huge.

oh my, yes.

[TennisAnyone74]

It was interesting having an episode that went back to Lost's roots. Next week, though, looks huge.



oh my, yes.

Yes, I think next week is when Michael will finally reappear! Talk about relationships - it'll really get interesting when the other survivors reunite with him!

TA

[ptmcmahon]

It's GOT to be Michael. It just HAS to be. Since we're this sure though...that means it will be someone else.

So I guess Charlie could've said on his note "Not Penny's Boat...Her Dad's Boat!"

I'd like to see a whole Hugo - Sawyer episode...that would be pure gold. Closest we had was when the found the "bus" last season.

Also, interesting to me is we never really have ANY feel good endings kind of like we did esp. in season one. There's too much stuff going on to have time for it, so it's always cliffhangers.

When's someone gonna die this season? I thought last night might've been the night.

[ptmcmahon]

1) They must've seen my complaint here...preview promises someone will die next week! Woo hoo! They showed the 4 from the boat when mentioning it, and they aren't listed as regulars, so I'd guess one of them (prolly Charlotte or Danny)

2) Wow...we were all right for a change (Michael)!

3) Do we all think Jin will die on the island? At first I assumed she was going to his fake grave and he was still on the island, but she didn't hint at it at all, so maybe he really will die (next week even?) Pretty nasty simultaenous flash forward/flash back!

It's all becoming clear...Widmore vs. Ben is the big conflict. But which side is the "good" side?

[shtexas]

We had to be right about Michael. The actor's name has been in the opening credits all year.

The Jin story really threw me, and upset me in the end.

[TennisAnyone74]

I am f***ing pissed about Jin! How dare they? Those entire last scene had better be a red herring in the end.

Jin had to have died off the island because didn't the preview from last week say that the last 2 of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed? One of the 6 cannot be the baby because: 1) Aaron wasn't counted as one, and 2) the baby wasn't born on the island. So Jin had to the the 6th of the Oceanic 6, so he must have died once they were rescued.

Still, I'm NOT happy about that episode, so job well done "Lost" writers - mission accomplished, I sure.

TA

[pingponger]

I am f***ing pissed about Jin! How dare they? Those entire last scene had better be a red herring in the end.

Jin had to have died off the island because didn't the preview from last week say that the last 2 of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed? One of the 6 cannot be the baby because: 1) Aaron wasn't counted as one, and 2) the baby wasn't born on the island. So Jin had to the the 6th of the Oceanic 6, so he must have died once they were rescued.

Still, I'm NOT happy about that episode, so job well done "Lost" writers - mission accomplished, I sure.

TA

How are you so sure Aaron isn't one they're counting?

[munchin]

I saw Jin's death coming weeks ago, but it still hit me like a punch in the stomach when it happened. I re-iterate that the Jin/Sun episodes of Lost are almost always the most heartfelt and emotionally powerful.

[shtexas]

I believe the Oceanic 6 are:

1. Jack
2. Kate
3. Hurley
4. Sayid
5. Aaron (that night, they did say we would discover another of the Oceanic 6)
6. Sun (they said we would discover the last of the Oceanic 6)

:(

[TennisAnyone74]

I believe the Oceanic 6 are:

1. Jack
2. Kate
3. Hurley
4. Sayid
5. Aaron (that night, they did say we would discover another of the Oceanic 6)
6. Sun (they said we would discover the last of the Oceanic 6)

:(

But Aaron wasn't really on the flight manifesto of Oceanic 815, so how can he count? I think the Oceanic 6 are:

1. Jack
2. Kate
3. Hurley
4. Sayid
5. Sun
6. Jin (would they really have brought his body from the island to bury on the mainland? I mean, bodies do deteriorate and degenerate after death. Unless he died right before rescue, how would his body have been preserved. If it wasn't, who'd transport it?)

TA

P.S. But if shtexas is right about them saying that one of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed the night we saw Aaron, then I'm wrong.

[TennisAnyone74]

I saw Jin's death coming weeks ago, but it still hit me like a punch in the stomach when it happened. I re-iterate that the Jin/Sun episodes of Lost are almost always the most heartfelt and emotionally powerful.

How did you see Jin's death foreshadowed?

TA

[TennisAnyone74]

How are you so sure Aaron isn't one they're counting?

Pingponger,

If shtexas is right that it was said that another of the Oceanic 6 would be revealed the night we found out about Aaron, then I'm wrong. But I don't remember that. He is right that it was said the "last" of the Oceanic 6 will be revealed - I took that to mean the last two. So again, I could be wrong. I just wouldn't count Aaron because he wasn't really a passenger on the flight since he hadn't been born yet.

TA

[TennisAnyone74]

Where is Moose? I'd love to hear his take on this!

TA

[TennisAnyone74]

One thing I've just read and found interesting is that the marker on Jin's grave marked his death as September 22, 2004 - the date of the crash! So obviously, there have been some tales told about the crash that are being covered up. I'm not so pissed now because I believe Jin might actually still be alive. :cheesy: Time will tell.

TA

[Martini4me]

One thing I've just read and found interesting is that the marker on Jin's grave marked his death as September 22, 2004 - the date of the crash! So obviously, there have been some tales told about the crash that are being covered up. I'm not so pissed now because I believe Jin might actually still be alive. :cheesy: Time will tell.

TA

Remember Jack's testimony at Kate's trial. The story is that the plane crashed into the ocean, and Kate was heroic in helping to rescue the six survivors of the crash (except we still don't know the sixth, do we?). So the date matches the story they're obliged to tell. However, I believe he's dead. The scene seemed genuine. Also, I re-watched last week's episode last night, and Jin said something like "I'll do whatever it takes to protect you and the baby." Foreshadow? They told us someone would die tonight.

Tonight's is the last of the eight episode filmed (or at least written) before the strike. They're producing, what, five, more? So I think they'll take a break for a few weeks after tonight and bring it back to wind up in May sweeps.

[Martini4me]

Frustrated with that episode. Yeah, it filled in some blanks, but way too much exposition on the flashback! We had, what, about five minutes in the "present"? And now we have a month to wait for more answes.

[Moose]

Frustrated with that episode. Yeah, it filled in some blanks, but way too much exposition on the flashback! We had, what, about five minutes in the "present"? And now we have a month to wait for more answes.

Think that echoes my sentiments well, Martini. It's not that it was a bad episode. It's just that we are really left hanging. And I think I have liked the idea of having things move forward weekly. There's a couple of huge explanations due us after tonight, and it won't be until late April that we learn anything new.

I also need an episode where things lighten up, if only a little, and if only for a few minutes. Remember last season, when they found the Dharma VW bus, and Hurley had the moment of victory in getting it started? I think we need another moment with a degree of levity like that. "Lost" is intense, but it still needs to have fun on occasion.

[aedra1119]

Think that echoes my sentiments well, Martini. It's not that it was a bad episode. It's just that we are really left hanging. And I think I have liked the idea of having things move forward weekly. There's a couple of huge explanations due us after tonight, and it won't be until late April that we learn anything new.

I also need an episode where things lighten up, if only a little, and if only for a few minutes. Remember last season, when they found the Dharma VW bus, and Hurley had the moment of victory in getting it started? I think we need another moment with a degree of levity like that. "Lost" is intense, but it still needs to have fun on occasion.

I agree.

I kept having to remind myself that this isn't the season finale. I've gotten to the point that I'm just taking it one episode at a time. If I try and look ahead, I go crazy. At least the end credits thing proved that Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6.

I wish they had aired last week's show since I missed it. :(

[Martini4me]

End credits thing? What was that?

[aedra1119]

End credits thing? What was that?

I guess I should have said the preview commercial (although they didn't really preview anything). Not sure what to call it. Anyway, they said "now we've identified the Oceanic 6" and they flashed pictures of the six, and Aaron was one of them.

[Martini4me]

Oh, thanks, I don't think we got that here.

[meadfish]

I was browsing recent posts (I can't believe this thread has endured 3.5 years!) anyway I have a question and forgive me if it was covered previously...

In the last episode of last year, Jack had called Kate wanting to meet and he asked if she had gone to "his" funeral. Whose? Jin's? Charlies? I don't think they've said and I haven't seen any clues. Just curious

[Martini4me]

The flash-forwards have been all over the place, in both time and location, so no, there haven't been any more clues. But my wife suggested during tonight's show that is was Michael. Makes sense--someone the survivors all knew, but none of them liked, couldn't have been one of the six, there was no one else at the funeral (Michael didn't seem to have too much of a life at the time he was sent to the freighter), funeral was in a black neighbourhood. Only counter-argument was that it was in Los Angeles.

[oohsalmon]

I was browsing recent posts (I can't believe this thread has endured 3.5 years!) anyway I have a question and forgive me if it was covered previously...

In the last episode of last year, Jack had called Kate wanting to meet and he asked if she had gone to "his" funeral. Whose? Jin's? Charlies? I don't think they've said and I haven't seen any clues. Just curious

I'm guessing Locke's?

[Moose]

I was browsing recent posts (I can't believe this thread has endured 3.5 years!) anyway I have a question and forgive me if it was covered previously...

In the last episode of last year, Jack had called Kate wanting to meet and he asked if she had gone to "his" funeral. Whose? Jin's? Charlies? I don't think they've said and I haven't seen any clues. Just curious


I was certain that it was Michael as well, meadfish....until I watched my tape of last weeks ep, and saw the whole Jin thing. Now I am not sure who it could be. In articles about the show, the writers have said they will let us know whose funeral it was sometime this season.

[ptmcmahon]

End credits thing? What was that?

As mentioned above they did identify the Oceanic Six (with Aaron being the big reveal.) They also said in the upcoming episodes they will show how they get off the island, showing I think Jack and Kate on the creighter running to the helicopter.

The also showed the little villiage on the island under attack. Ben was saying something about this is how they attack, and Hurley had Aaron and there was gunfire/explosion and he asked if that came from Claire's house. Hurley then says they're all going to die.

[TennisAnyone74]

I agree.

I kept having to remind myself that this isn't the season finale. I've gotten to the point that I'm just taking it one episode at a time. If I try and look ahead, I go crazy. At least the end credits thing proved that Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6.

I wish they had aired last week's show since I missed it. :(

Aedra,

Go to abc.com and watch that episode. They even have it in hd and the picture quality is quite good. I think I'm going to watch all 3 past seasons' episodes waiting for the April 24th return of "Lost".

TA

[Moose]

Where is Moose? I'd love to hear his take on this!

TA

Hey you! Happy Easter!

I was at the Pacific Life, and had missed the ep when it aired, so I had to stay out of this thread until I got home and got caught up.

My big question from the Jin/Sun episode....is it at all possible that it was Jin's funeral that Jack went to? We've all been saying Michael or Locke, or Ben....but what if?

[TennisAnyone74]

Hey you! Happy Easter!

I was at the Pacific Life, and had missed the ep when it aired, so I had to stay out of this thread until I got home and got caught up.

My big question from the Jin/Sun episode....is it at all possible that it was Jin's funeral that Jack went to? We've all been saying Michael or Locke, or Ben....but what if?

Hey Moose!

Missed you, but realized where you were when I perused the members only threads. Looks like y'all had some fun there!

That funeral just couldn't have been Jin's! No one attended according to the funeral home guy. From Jack, I got that the person wasn't well liked. That couldn't have been my beloved and redeemed Jin! My mind refuses to even contemplate this as a possibility. But I am excited to hear from you that we will find out who that person is before the season ends.

TA

[aedra1119]

Aedra,

Go to abc.com and watch that episode. They even have it in hd and the picture quality is quite good. I think I'm going to watch all 3 past seasons' episodes waiting for the April 24th return of "Lost".

TA

Thanks, TA! I forget you can watch ABC shows online.

[ptmcmahon]

That funeral just couldn't have been Jin's! No one attended according to the funeral home guy. From Jack, I got that the person wasn't well liked. That couldn't have been my beloved and redeemed Jin! My mind refuses to even contemplate this as a possibility. But I am excited to hear from you that we will find out who that person is before the season ends.
TA

We are? Did I miss seeing that in the preview?

[Moose]

That funeral just couldn't have been Jin's! No one attended according to the funeral home guy. From Jack, I got that the person wasn't well liked. That couldn't have been my beloved and redeemed Jin! My mind refuses to even contemplate this as a possibility. But I am excited to hear from you that we will find out who that person is before the season ends.

TA

But remember, TA, Jin was not liked at all at one time. Even his wife was ready to leave him. Remember what happened between Michael and he? Sure, Jin has become much more loved as the series has evolved, but does that mean he isn't capable of "reverting"?



We are? Did I miss seeing that in the preview?

The writers have mentioned a number of times that we will find out who was in the casket by the end of season 4, PT.

[OlderfanCA]

But remember, TA, Jin was not liked at all at one time. Even his wife was ready to leave him. Remember what happened between Michael and he? Sure, Jin has become much more loved as the series has evolved, but does that mean he isn't capable of "reverting"?




The writers have mentioned a number of times that we will find out who was in the casket by the end of season 4, PT.
I think the funeral was for Sawyer.

[TennisAnyone74]

I think the funeral was for Sawyer.

Bite your tongue! Then I'd be really sad . . . and pissed!

TA

[Moose]

I think the funeral was for Sawyer.

Speaking of which....they need to do something with Sawyer. Soon!

He's become milquetoast-esque. And he's too good a character to be wasted week after week.

[ptmcmahon]

Seems this season a lot of episodes are very focused on one character and lots of long flashbacks. A lot of regulars have only had 1-2 episodes to do stuff and have even entirely missed some episodes. Nothing against flashbacks and forwards, but here's hoping the next 5 episodes are mostly "now" episodes and we get some more time with our faves.

[TennisAnyone74]

Thought this thread needed a bump, since it's back - tonight! I'm so excited! :woohoo:

TA

[Moose]

Thought this thread needed a bump, since it's back - tonight! I'm so excited! :woohoo:

TA

You and me both my friend.

But I'll add this caveat - I HATE that they have moved it to 10:00 p.m. here on the East Coast. When it used to be on at 10, it often left me so angst ridden at the end of the show that I had a hard time going to sleep right away. I liked it better when it was on at 9.

[shtexas]

You and me both my friend.

But I'll add this caveat - I HATE that they have moved it to 10:00 p.m. here on the East Coast. When it used to be on at 10, it often left me so angst ridden at the end of the show that I had a hard time going to sleep right away. I liked it better when it was on at 9.

That's the hard thing about the east coast, 10:00 PM shows. For me, the hard thing is being home in time for 7:00 PM shows. The first year Lost was on, it was at 7. What a push.

[Moose]

That's the hard thing about the east coast, 10:00 PM shows. For me, the hard thing is being home in time for 7:00 PM shows. The first year Lost was on, it was at 7. What a push.


Yeah, I guess overall we have it pretty good. I am so used to Night Tennis at the USO beginning after I get home from the gym and have dinner. I can't imagine what it must be like for people who are still at work when it starts.

[Jessie181]

Thought this thread needed a bump, since it's back - tonight! I'm so excited! :woohoo:

TA
It's back on tonight?!?! AWESOME! :D I got into it a lot last season. Y'all got me hooked :p
Thanks for the reminder, TA! :banana:



Yeah, I guess overall we have it pretty good. I am so used to Night Tennis at the USO beginning after I get home from the gym and have dinner. I can't imagine what it must be like for people who are still at work when it starts.
Yep. I'm usually still at school or at work when USO matches are on. I'm usually trying to text someone while in class to tell me the results of certain matches lol. You guys don't have it too bad for Wimbledon, either....and comparing to us on the west coast, RG isn't as bad for you as it is for us. Lucky, Lucky east coasters :cry::tease:
The only slam we have that's at a better time for us than for you is the Aussie, probably. :p

[Moose]

The only slam we have that's at a better time for us than for you is the Aussie, probably. :p

The nicest part about the Australian for me Jessie is that some mornings I wake up and coverage is still on. It's like breakfast at Wimbledon!

[TennisAnyone74]

Just to put in my two cents: I think central standard time is best! I lived in Massachusetts for 3 years and abhorred Eastern time. That was when I used to watch Johnny Carson and David Letterman religiously. Going to bed at 1:30am was absolutely insane, especially when you had to get up to go to class in a few hours. Conversely, I lived in San Diego for a scant 6 months, and I was/am an avid football fan. I did not care who was playing - I was watching. I had to forego going to church because I had to see every minute of the early game, which would come on at 10:00am! What used to amuse me is that my roommate's boyfriend would come over to go to church with her and decide he'd rather stay with me and watch football. It became our weekly "date"! So I like good old central time - besides, it's what I'm used to. :p

TA

[shtexas]

Just to put in my two cents: I think central standard time is best! I lived in Massachusetts for 3 years and abhorred Eastern time. That was when I used to watch Johnny Carson and David Letterman religiously. Going to bed at 1:30am was absolutely insane, especially when you had to get up to go to class in a few hours. Conversely, I lived in San Diego for a scant 6 months, and I was/am an avid football fan. I did not care who was playing - I was watching. I had to forego going to church because I had to see every minute of the early game, which would come on at 10:00am! What used to amuse me is that my roommate's boyfriend would come over to go to church with her and decide he'd rather stay with me and watch football. It became our weekly "date"! So I like good old central time - besides, it's what I'm used to. :p

TA

I did eastern time zone for college. Monday Night Football would go until the wee hours of the morning sometimes.

[ptmcmahon]

That's the hard thing about the east coast, 10:00 PM shows. For me, the hard thing is being home in time for 7:00 PM shows. The first year Lost was on, it was at 7. What a push.

No sympathy here...we're REALLY east coast (of N. America) so it's 11:00 PM here! Boo!

[Martini4me]

I don't quite get get it. Isn't Lost on at 10:00 local time everywhere? They don't simulcast it across the country, do they? (live sports, that I understand)

Anyway, been looking forward to tonight. The Entertainment Weekly website has a few good articles on the show. The link is for an article from last week's issue, but there are several other articles on the show, including a video preview (which I haven't watched yet) of tonight's episode. The article does have some mild spoilers of tonight's ep, plus some info on the remaining episodes of the season and some of the questions that will be answered by season's end. So if you prefer to be completely surprised by each episode, don't read.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20190415,00.html

[Scotty]

I don't quite get get it. Isn't Lost on at 10:00 local time everywhere? They don't simulcast it across the country, do they? (live sports, that I understand)



I'm guessing shtexas meant that prime time starts at 7pm in Central time. So, not Lost specifically, but shows that are on at 8pm Eastern/Pacific come on at 7pm.

Going back upthread to Moose's question about US Open night session broadcasts, I haven't seen a women's night session match on TV in quite some time, since it starts at 4 pm for those of us on the West Coast. Since, especially during the first week, the women's match is usually a blowout that takes less than an hour (seed vs. nobody), if I don't leave work promptly at 5, I'll often miss the start of the men's match, too.

On the other hand, even if the men's match goes 5 sets, we can watch the whole thing and still get to bed at a reasonable hour.

[Martini4me]

Whoa!! You mean it's all a big game?

[Moose]

Wow. simply wow. There was just so much going on last night. I definitely need to rewatch the episode.

A couple of key things

1. Ben in a parka. In the Sahara. And Charlotte the red head having been introduced to us earlier this year finding polar bear remains in Africa.

2. Widmore called Ben "boy". Ben said Widmore "changed the rules". I think this all ties in to the young Ben being part of the plot to kill his dad and the other Dharma Initiative people.

3. "Did you ever plan to get us off this island"? "No, Jack, we didn't".

[aedra1119]

Whoa!! You mean it's all a big game?

I don't know, but I started getting that impression when Widmore faked the Oceanic plane. My memory is terrible. Do we know yet WHY Widmore wants to find the island? It was interesting that he said he still hadn't found it in the flash forward. This was one episode I wish I had taped. I need to see it again. I know I missed some important scenes.

I think we are finally getting some answers!

[TennisAnyone74]

I don't know, but I started getting that impression when Widmore faked the Oceanic plane. My memory is terrible. Do we know yet WHY Widmore wants to find the island? It was interesting that he said he still hadn't found it in the flash forward. This was one episode I wish I had taped. I need to see it again. I know I missed some important scenes.

I think we are finally getting some answers!

Aedra,

Go to abc.com to see the episode again - it's in hd and the quality is pretty good on the web!

About the episode, I have one question (I think): Ben went into the closet and a flash forward began. Then in the next flash forward at the hotel, he asked the date, but it seemed he really wanted to know the year. Question: is Ben able to time travel in the "present" time? Why wouldn't he have known the year in the flash forward? Anybody?

TA

P.S. Martini - Lost comes on at 9:00pm in the central time zone.

[Moose]

Question: is Ben able to time travel in the "present" time? Why wouldn't he have known the year in the flash forward? Anybody?

TA



I don't think they've addressed it yet, TA. But there is some meaning there, because it was too obvious how they focused on the 2005 part if the answer. And then focused on Ben's face when the hotel clerk said the year.

[aedra1119]

Thanks, TA. I asked myself the same thing when Ben asked for the year.

[pingponger]

What if Widmore was the originial head of the Dharma initiative, which Ben overthrew...would that make any sense?

[ptmcmahon]

I don't quite get get it. Isn't Lost on at 10:00 local time everywhere? They don't simulcast it across the country, do they? (live sports, that I understand)

In Canada, especially in our own (relatively) small time zone one ahead of EST...we don't get anything early.

Seemed a rare episode where it was kind of more answers than new questions. I guess somehow Mr. Trigger Happy wasn't around when the smoke monster came. Loved Sawyer getting all defensive of Hurley. Did they show the helicopter pilot (Frank) on the island next week?

It was really weird having to wait 5 weeks for episodes since we just started season 1 in the fall and had never not been watching lost since.

[ptmcmahon]

Oh yeah...obviously the pilot is there...how else did they get to the island?

[ptmcmahon]

Just found out tonight that here we have it here in Atlantic Canada at 8 local time (7 eastern) - just for the last 5 episodes for this season though. I missed this last week and just found out now...I could have already watched it by now. Well, I'm at work tonight, but good to remember for next week. We may be the first in the world to see the new episodes!

[ptmcmahon]

Ahh...this is one of the reasons Lost is so great. The two main characters getting engaged can happen in the middle of a season in the middle of an episode...you never know what can happen and when, can't miss a second.

I think this establishes that the first flash forward (at the end of season 3) is probably the one the farthest in the future. This episode had the development of his pill problem, him stopping shaving, and it makes the conversation between Jack and Kate about "him" (Aaron) waiting fit even better. So what did Sawyer ask Kate to do?

Little disappointed in the tease of Jack being visited by someone in the past and all that happens is his dad says hi, and then they are interrupted. Was hoping for more than that.

[Moose]

too much going on at work, at with tennis action today to comment before now.

Things are getting just a little too dark, and too weird for my tastes. Moving the island? Claire with that loopy grin (I take it she's dead?). Richard at the hospital when Locke was born (and apparently the same age almost 50 years later?) Hurley and Ben sharing a candy bar.

I know its all leading up to something big...but sometimes the story gets a little bit beyond what I feel can be connected. I also prefer when it focuses on the characters relationships with each other. Locke/Ben was decent last night, but could have been a lit better.

[Martini4me]

Ditto all that, Moose. It was getting a bit too weird last night. I'm not so sure I like the way things are heading, but I did read that this season's finale will totally change the dynamic again for next season.

[aedra1119]

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Some very scary stuff going on. This is almost turning into a type of terror show to me. The Claire scene was beyond creepy.

[Scotty]

I have to give it up for all of you who have had the fortitude to stick with this show. I lost patience with it LONG ago.

[ptmcmahon]

Weird, I actually quite enjoyed last night's show. My inital reaction about Claire must be that she's dead as well - or whatever it is they would be. Otherwise why would she be happy about being seperated from Aaron?

I might have enjoyed it because I was predicting everything that happened and the episode made me smart (specifically Locke's question for Jacob.) I also am not as strung up on everything making complete sense, just that it ties together somehow.

Looks like next two weeks are a part one/part two season finale. Kind of weird that a weekly show that is tied together like this anyways considers them part one and two...but oh well!

[Jack]

I don't think Claire is dead, but I do think that her (and Jack's) father may be alive. Since the island can heal people, I wonder if it was responsible for his "rebirth".

As far as moving the island, my guess is that it's in reference to moving it in the sense of time, not location.

[Moose]

As much as last week's episode left me a little cold and discouraged, tonight's penultimate ep of Season 4 has me re-energized, and just totally psyched for another killer season finale. I felt like tonight was all about the relationships, which is when Lost just blows away anything else on TV.

Won't say anything more til tomorrow, so I don't spoil it for the West Coasties, but tonight was not only good, it does a wonderful job laying the groundwork for something huge in 2 weeks.

[ptmcmahon]

Agreed. Solid show, and it seemed more like one of the episodes from previous years at the end...with the kind of reviewing/previewing of what's about to happen.

Think we may have found out how Jin dies? Might that be how we close the season? (like last season closing with Charlie dieing?)

[Moose]

Agreed. Solid show, and it seemed more like one of the episodes from previous years at the end...with the kind of reviewing/previewing of what's about to happen.

Think we may have found out how Jin dies? Might that be how we close the season? (like last season closing with Charlie dieing?)

The exact thought crossed my mind, PT. And to be honest, saddened me. I remember despising Jin in the early parts of Season , and now he is one of my three or so faves. The writers have done a brilliant job with his character.

The Sun business from last night (the scene in her father's office) has me real curious. It came out of the blue. Which generally means that it is huge to something down the road.

You really have to wonder, with the way the Oceanic 6 are spread out right now (in four seperate locations), how it is that those specific 6 come together to get back to civilization.

[TennisAnyone74]

And why the lies about the crash? Who were the other two "survivors" from the crash and what happened to them?

The most poignant scene in this episode to me was when Claire's mom commented on Kate's baby. I wanted to shout - tell her he's her grandchild! She has a right to know.

This was some good stuff. I'm miffed that I have to wait 2 weeks (now a week and a half) for the finale, but given the fact that I'll have to wait Lord knows how many months for the premiere, I guess I should be patient and salivate because a long, dry spell is coming!

TA

[ptmcmahon]

And why the lies about the crash?

Because there's still people alive on the island!

I was very happy to see Richard and the others, because I'd been wondering about them all season.

[aedra1119]

You really have to wonder, with the way the Oceanic 6 are spread out right now (in four seperate locations), how it is that those specific 6 come together to get back to civilization.

I can't wait to see how they explain how we have our Oceanic 6.


I'm glad they explained how Jack found out about Claire. I wondered since in the recent episode he said to Kate how Aaron was related to him and not her.

I hope we learn what the numbers mean before the series finale! They came up again last week for the first time in forever.

Richard creeps. me. out. I hope we get an explanation about his eternal youth-ness.

[ptmcmahon]

If you check Lostpedia, they're in there in nearly every episode in some shape or form, just not always noticed by Hurley...ex. last week:

"Hurley's birthday party scene contained the following Easter eggs: 4 palm trees on the lanai, 8 helium balloons tied by the pool, 15 presents on the lanai table, 16 party hats worn by background individuals, 23 & 42 were the numbers on the jerseys worn on the two boys crossing over the pool right after the DJ was shown."

Most weeks, they have something like this somewhere!

[Moose]

If you check Lostpedia, they're in there in nearly every episode in some shape or form, just not always noticed by Hurley...ex. last week:

"Hurley's birthday party scene contained the following Easter eggs: 4 palm trees on the lanai, 8 helium balloons tied by the pool, 15 presents on the lanai table, 16 party hats worn by background individuals, 23 & 42 were the numbers on the jerseys worn on the two boys crossing over the pool right after the DJ was shown."

Most weeks, they have something like this somewhere!

Just like Ninas :)

(now, let's see who understands THAT arcane cultural reference).

[TennisAnyone74]

Because there's still people alive on the island!

I was very happy to see Richard and the others, because I'd been wondering about them all season.

I realize that there are people still alive on the island! That doesn't answer my question - why the lies about the crash? Why not go back and rescue those left? Do they not want to be rescued? Do they want to be thought dead? If so, why did Jack say at the beginning of the season that they had to go back? If not, why did Kate answer that they could never go back?

TA

[TennisAnyone74]

Just like Ninas :)

(now, let's see who understands THAT arcane cultural reference).

You "lost" me - no pun intended! Are you going to explain?

TA

[ptmcmahon]

You get a big ? from me!

[Moose]

If you check Lostpedia, they're in there in nearly every episode in some shape or form, just not always noticed by Hurley...ex. last week:

Most weeks, they have something like this somewhere!


Just like Ninas :)
(now, let's see who understands THAT arcane cultural reference).


You "lost" me - no pun intended! Are you going to explain?
TA


You get a big ? from me!


Sorry I missed responding to the "Nina" reference earlier.

There was an artist for the NY Times, Al Hirschfeld. He always drew cartoons for the Entertainment section. In every cartoon Hirschfeld drew, he hid some number of "Nina"'s. Nina was the name of his daughter. It was always a game to find the Ninas in his pictures. Often he would put a number where his signature appeared, so you knew how many Ninas he hid in the drawing.

http://theater.nytimes.com/ref/theater/hirschfeld/index.html?rf=aboutnina.html



But anyway, back to "Lost". I am both majorly excited, and slightly scared in advance of tonights Season 4 finale. I think on whole, this has been the show's best year since Season 1. But I fear that something terrible is going to happen to end the season.

[shtexas]

I'm frightened too Moose.

Charlie died at the end of last year.

Jin? :(

[Moose]

I'm frightened too Moose.

Charlie died at the end of last year.

Jin? :(

The camera shot of Jin looking at how the freighter was wired was very ominous, shtexas. I think you gotta be concerned for his safety.

I thought I remembered hearing earlier this season that we would know who was in the coffin by the end of Season 4, also.

[shtexas]

The camera shot of Jin looking at how the freighter was wired was very ominous, shtexas. I think you gotta be concerned for his safety.

I thought I remembered hearing earlier this season that we would know who was in the coffin by the end of Season 4, also.

Yes. We are supposed to find that out. Last year, I was sure it was Michael. But, who the heck knows with this show.

[Moose]

Yes. We are supposed to find that out. Last year, I was sure it was Michael. But, who the heck knows with this show.

I thought it was Michael also, with Ben as a possible runner up. Now I don't think it is either, but I have no idea who it could be. When he went to the funeral home, I remember the funeral director saying something to the effect of "no one else came", which made me think it was someone unpopular.

[Moose]

Time for the Finale. I'm anticipating total stress overload in the next two hours.

[Jack]

Cool...

I'm afraid Jin and/or Desmond could buy the farm tonight.
I thought the coffin might contain the carcass of Ben Linus, but have changed my mind. I have no clue who is in there, though.

[munchin]

Best episode of television I have seen in a very very long time. I'm still in shock.

[aedra1119]

Same here, munchin. The whole episode deserves a big WTF? But in a good way. :)

I'm so excited about next season, and I have NO idea where they are going with it.

Spoiler:


When the freighter exploded, it nearly broke my heart. But finally seeing Desmond and Penny reunited was so sweet. And OMG...the island? So it was literally moved? And what about Daniel (is that his name? can't remember) and the people in the boat who were heading for the freighter? Are they just stranded at sea?

[Moose]

yes, Daniel is Farraday's first name, Aedra.

I think I had just a moments disappointment, because the Season 3 ender (with the Charlie incident and the flash forward) was just so stupendous. But it was still 99% better than anything on television this year.

Loved the final scene, with Ben saying..."everyone...including him". I'm trying to think of a better character on television than Ben Linus, and I really do not think there is one.

And does anyone else recall the name? I'm sure it's been used before, but I'm not going looking for more reveals til I watch the episode again this weekend.

One thing that struck me...Miles and Charlotte's conversation. How does Miles know she's been on the island before? And remember Ben's playmate? I've always had it in the back of my mind that Kate could possibly be Annie, but now I think there just might be another possibility.

[TennisAnyone74]

Loved the final scene, with Ben saying..."everyone...including him". I'm trying to think of a better character on television than Ben Linus, and I really do not think there is one.

And does anyone else recall the name? I'm sure it's been used before, but I'm not going looking for more reveals til I watch the episode again this weekend.

One thing that struck me...Miles and Charlotte's conversation. How does Miles know she's been on the island before? And remember Ben's playmate? I've always had it in the back of my mind that Kate could possibly be Annie, but now I think there just might be another possibility.

What name Moose? Are you talking about "Jeremy Benchin" or something like that. I remember "ben" was a part of the name because it led me to believe that maybe he was Ben, but I'm sure Jeremy is the first name.

Miles - he talks to ghosts, Moose! And there are lots of ghosts on the island.

Mr Ecko - will we see him again?

Annie - was this the girl Ben liked during his childhood on the island? If so, I'd say Kate is too young, but so is the other possibility who happened to be born on the island.

"Bad things have happened to the people who stayed" (or something like that) - ominous! Next season may prove to be the saddest one yet!

TA

[shtexas]

It's simply great television!

[Martini4me]

This is killing me that I can't read this. It was my daughter's confirmation last night, so we were out, and too tired to start watching when we came home. We recorded it on the downstairs PVR (hope we got all of it!), but we're having some water leak damage looked at today, so all the furniture is moved and under sheets to protect from rust, so don't even know whether we'll be able to get at it tonight!

[ptmcmahon]

And what about Daniel (is that his name? can't remember) and the people in the boat who were heading for the freighter? Are they just stranded at sea?

Wondering that too. Everyone on the boat who can't do some kind of time travel is screwed me thinks...Daniel will be back I think.


One thing that struck me...Miles and Charlotte's conversation. How does Miles know she's been on the island before? And remember Ben's playmate? I've always had it in the back of my mind that Kate could possibly be Annie, but now I think there just might be another possibility.

Do you mean Charlotte? That might make sense since she is trying to find out where he is born.

I think Michael may have joined Christian and Claire in that weird sort of dead sort of alive thing.

[ptmcmahon]

Some fun notes from Lostpedia:

- Two alternate endings were also shot with Sawyer and Desmond in the coffin. These were aired on Good Morning America on May 30, 2008.

- Sayid kills a man at 8:15 (the numbers!)

- If there are miracles on the island, could Locke be revived if they go back?

As for Jeremy Bentham...in real life (doesn't sound like Locke to me:)

Jeremy Bentham (15 February 1748–6 June 1832) - was an English jurist, philosopher, and legal and social reformer. He was a political radical, and a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law. He is best known for his advocacy of utilitarianism, for the concept of animal rights, and his opposition to the idea of natural rights, with his oft-quoted statement that the idea of such rights is "nonsense upon stilts." He also influenced the development of welfarism. Bentham's position included arguments in favour of individual and economic freedom, the separation of church and state, freedom of expression, equal rights for women, the end of slavery, the abolition of physical punishment (including that of children), the right to divorce, free trade, usury, and the decriminalization of homosexuality.

[Kirkus]

I've stayed out of here because our family schedule is so willy-nilly we never watch lost the night it airs. Sometimes we have to watch several episodes to get caught up.

I started watching again this season. Just a few of my thoughts.

I'm convinced time-travel has something to do with it somehow. Either people travel forward in time or back in time -- years, maybe hundreds of years.

Benjamin Linus IS one of the best TV characters I've ever seen. Michael Emerson deserves a best acting Emmy Award... if not several!

I noticed that Jin was on the back end of the ship before it exploded. I'm thinking he didn't die in the explosion but abandoned ship and they will be reunited during the final season. How can a love story like theirs end like that?

I'm looking forward to owning the whole thing on DVD so I can watch episode after episode, like I do now with West Wing!!

[munchin]

I'm trying to think of a better character on television than Ben Linus, and I really do not think there is one.


That scene in that Dharma station.

Locke: You just killed every single person on that freighter.
Ben: ........(turns to look at him) So?

That gave me chills. I just don't think I'll ever know what to make of that character which is precisely why he is one of the best ever drawn.