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shtexas
05-31-2013, 11:53 AM
Congratulations on the 54 who made the updated P&R thread for the men's pool:


Alan B: Chardy - Robredo - Verdasco - Anderson - Haas - Simon - Kohlschreiber - Almagro.

Appledeuce: Anderson - Montanes - Haas - Benneteau - Nishikori - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

Argonaut: Troicki - Fognini - Verdasco - Cilic - Dimitrov - Simon - Kohlschreiber - Almagro.

Audy1117: Simon - Janowicz - Delbonis - Querrey - Isner - Robredo - Wawrinka - Ferrer. - Haas. - Federer

Billytall: Seppi - Gulbis - Wawrinka - Querrey - Nishikori - Almagro - Haas - Tsonga. - Gasquet.

Casperpod: Troicki - Benneteau - Verdasco - Chardy - Gasquet - Almagro - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

Cdavid99: Chardy - Fognini - Tipsarevic - Anderson - Paire - Robredo - Kohlschreiber - Almagro.

DanFreeze: Llodra - Robredo - Zeballos - Lopez - Kohlschreiber - Ferrer - Gasquet - Almagro.

Deuce: Troicki - Klizan - Kohlschreiber - Simon - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

Doc_P: Seppi - Montanes - Verdasco - Robredo - Dimitrov - Simon - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

Dowser55: Bautista Agut- Montanes- Kohlschreiber- Robredo- Dimitrov- Almagro - Gasquet - Federer. - Haas. - np

Dryrunguy: Troicki - Robredo - Verdasco - Cilic - Kohlschreiber - Simon - Wawrinka - Almagro.

Edmond Dantès: Troicki - Fognini - Dimitrov - Simon - Paire - Almagro - Kohlschreiber - Federer. - Youzhny.

Elchie: Troicki - Klizan - Kubot - Anderson - Youzhny - Simon - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

Fatboy: Anderson - Benneteau - Kohlschreiber - Seppi - Dimitrov - Almagro - Haas - np

FedHenin: Anderson - Roger-Vasselin- Kohlschreiber- Cilic- Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

GlennHarman: Chardy - Gulbis - Kohlschreiber - Simon - Dimitrov - Robredo - Wawrinka - Tsonga. - Gasquet.

Hans82: Troicki - Montanes - Verdasco - Seppi - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

IronMike: Chardy - Robredo - Verdasco - Simon - Gasquet - Almagro - Haas - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

Jason11E: Anderson - Klizan - Kubot - Cilic - Dimitrov - Tsonga - Gasquet - Almagro.

Jazzyg: Chardy - Robredo - Kohlschreiber - Anderson - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

Jonah: Seppi - Robredo - Kohlschreiber - Cilic - Dimitrov - Anderson - Gasquet - Almagro.

Joshman_can: Anderson - Fognini - Davydenko - Cilic - Nishikori - Simon - Haas - Almagro.

Kukwa: Anderson - Benneteau - Kohlschreiber - Simon - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

Matori: Seppi - Nishikori - Haas - Benneteau - Paire - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - np

Maxim: Chardy - Cilic - Kohlschreiber - Benneteau - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

Mcbride10s: Chardy - Gulbis - Kohlschreiber - Simon - Dimitrov - Almagro - Haas - Tsonga. - Gasquet.

Mira12: Chardy - Gulbis - Verdasco - Benneteau - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

Mr_socko: Troicki - Montanes - Zeballos - Cilic - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga - Gasquet - Almagro.

Nad55: Querrey - Benneteau - Verdasco - Cilic - Nishikori - Almagro - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga. - Youzhny.

Net_Raider: Simon - Nishikori - Kohlschreiber - Robredo - Dimitrov - Tsonga - Wawrinka - Almagro.

New England Nitemare: Anderson -Gulbis- Verdasco- Cilic - Dimitrov - Tsonga - Gasquet - Almagro.

_Nivek: Troicki - Robredo - Kohlschreiber - Lopez - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

Omess: Anderson - Benneteau - Kohlschreiber - Robredo - Youzhny - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

Patrick: Troicki - Robredo - Verdasco - Cilic - Dimitrov - Almagro - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

PeterSkan: Anderson - Robredo - Verdasco - Seppi - Dimitrov - Simon - Gasquet - Almagro.

Phatsdawg: Llodra - Robredo - Youzhny - Lopez - Dimitrov - Simon - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

Pudding: Anderson - Gulbis - Verdasco - Benneteau - Isner - Almagro - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

Rickym63: Bautista Agut - Robredo - Verdasco - Querrey - Dimitrov - Almagro - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Federer

Riley371: Anderson - Montanes - Kohlschreiber - Simon - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Nadal - Djokovic

Seroa89: Llodra - Fognini - Davydenko - Chardy - Kohlschreiber - Simon - Gasquet - Almagro.

Shtexas: Seppi - Robredo - Verdasco - Anderson - Dimitrov - Tsonga - Gasquet - Almagro.

Sluggo-13: Bautista Agut - Donskoy - Delbonis - Troicki - Janowicz - Simon - Paire

Spencer: Bautista Agut - Donskoy - Kubot - Lopez - Isner - Tsonga - Kohlschreiber - Ferrer. - Youzhny.

SW195AE: Seppi - Robredo - Kohlschreiber - Anderson - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Federer. - Haas. - Tsonga - Djokovic - Ferrer - Nadal

SwissBliss: Simon - Montanes - Haas - Robredo - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga - Gasquet - Almagro.

Synth: Anderson - Robredo - Verdasco - Cilic - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

TeamBJK: Querrey - Haase - Kubot - Anderson - Youzhny - Robredo - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Wawrinka. - Ferrer - Haas

Tennisbrp: Troicki - Montanes - Kohlschreiber - Robredo - Paire - Almagro - Haas - Tsonga. - Youzhny.

TennisDan: Chardy - Montanes - Davydenko - Benneteau - Kohlschreiber - Simon - Haas - Almagro.

Thekaoboy: Llodra - Klizan - Verdasco - Seppi - Dimitrov - Simon - Kohlschreiber - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

Tigress: Anderson - Montanes - Kohlschreiber - Simon - Dimitrov - Tsonga - Haas - Almagro.

Trouble54321: Anderson - Robredo - Haas - Lopez - Dimitrov - Almagro - np

Undertheradar: Troicki - Klizan - Verdasco - Chardy - Dimitrov - Almagro - Gasquet - Tsonga. - Haas. - Ferrer - Djokovic - Nadal - oop

Argonaut
05-31-2013, 12:55 PM
Good Luck Everyone!

dryrunguy
05-31-2013, 12:59 PM
Five of my six picks thus far are still alive. That's not good. :hyst:

ptmcmahon
05-31-2013, 10:54 PM
I could have made an updated thread if I had picked against a Canadian on clay? Oh how I've slipped!

Drop-shot
06-01-2013, 03:46 AM
And welcome to day 7. I know we're all in shock after yesterday's bloodbath but the game must go on. So succinctly (since I have to catch a bus), here are today's picks:

Gasquet 23: great choice. He should get by Kolya easily. Then would come Stan and I'd REALLY try avoid picking from that match, and if I had to, Richard wouldn't be my pick.

Kohlschreiber 12: barring PEHK's streakiness, this option is even better than Gasquet since his opponent is Hanescu and he's clearly a goner next round against Djokovic.

Haas 8: hmmmm. This is the weird case when I'd rather take him later. I suspect that Isner might be able to complicate Tommy. IMO, Haas was a better pick next round against Tipsarevic or Youzhny.

Wawrinka 4: on principle Stan should win. Now, this is maybe a risky pick. You never know what Janowicz you're going to get. I'd rather have waited until absolutely necessary to go with Stan.

Paire 1: yikes! Talk about taking a risk. Sure he's been playing well, but Nishikori can play. I think this person will be joining the rest of us soon in the Loser's Lounge.

mira12
06-01-2013, 04:56 AM
I picked Gasquet too (here) (http://www.talkabouttennis.com/forum/threads/21840-Men-s-Day-7-(Sat)-RGSP-Pick?p=777226&viewfull=1#post777226), looks like my picks haven't been updated :(

shtexas
06-01-2013, 06:53 AM
I picked Gasquet too (here) (http://www.talkabouttennis.com/forum/threads/21840-Men-s-Day-7-(Sat)-RGSP-Pick?p=777226&viewfull=1#post777226), looks like my picks haven't been updated :(

You picked right after I went to sleep.

shtexas
06-01-2013, 06:53 AM
Day 7, after one no-pick:

27 Gasquet
13 Kohlschreiber
8 Haas
4 Wawrinka
1 Paire

53

shtexas
06-01-2013, 12:34 PM
Day 7 (final):

27 Gasquet
13 Kohlschreiber
8 Haas
4 Wawrinka
1 Paire

53 - 1 = 52

We did good.

dryrunguy
06-01-2013, 12:44 PM
Am I the only one who is thoroughly baffled as to how this draw is going to unfold? In most Roland Garros men's draws, if you get to this point there is usually at least a little bit of certainty. I'm not feeling that this year. Rafa isn't quite himself yet, Djokovic may have a shoulder issue (though that may have been smoke and mirrors), Roger is Roger... I'm just baffled.

AttackTheNet
06-01-2013, 12:50 PM
Am I the only one who is thoroughly baffled as to how this draw is going to unfold? In most Roland Garros men's draws, if you get to this point there is usually at least a little bit of certainty. I'm not feeling that this year. Rafa isn't quite himself yet, Djokovic may have a shoulder issue (though that may have been smoke and mirrors), Roger is Roger... I'm just baffled.

And Tsonga's looking good and may very well spoil Fed's tournament. It's going to be fun, that's for sure!

dryrunguy
06-01-2013, 12:51 PM
And Tsonga's looking good and may very well spoil Fed's tournament. It's going to be fun, that's for sure!

And then there's that.

jazzyg
06-01-2013, 01:45 PM
I agree about Tsonga. Considered taking Federer today but learned long time ago in these contests that as soon as you think you're the smartest person in the room, you lose.

Ferrer could beat Federer, too, despite their head-to-head record, but it would be awfully hard to pull the trigger on that one. And Almagro could beat Ferrer despite their head-to-head record if they play. I beat the draw in Australia only because of Almagro's colossal choke again Ferrer.

SwissBliss
06-01-2013, 03:25 PM
Nadal is lucky he is not playing top people yet or he would be gone. His shaky forehand, which is spraying everything long, is making me think Djokovic is the better option down the line.

If Djokovic does beat Nadal in the semis then the final will be a pure tossup. Federer has beaten Djokovic in 2 of their last 3 matches and their record on clay is 3-3. Djokovic cannot pound the Federer forehand the same way he does to Nadal on clay and their matches are always extremely tight and highly competative. Those banking on Djokovic destroying Roger in the final might be in for a major shock, after all Fed almost beat Nadal in the French Open final in 2011. ;)

skatingfan
06-01-2013, 04:11 PM
I think you're reading way too much into Nadal's early form - top players lift their games against better opponents - doesn't really matter how you get through as long as you win.

munchin
06-01-2013, 08:48 PM
Nadal is lucky he is not playing top people yet or he would be gone. His shaky forehand, which is spraying everything long, is making me think Djokovic is the better option down the line.

If Djokovic does beat Nadal in the semis then the final will be a pure tossup. Federer has beaten Djokovic in 2 of their last 3 matches and their record on clay is 3-3. Djokovic cannot pound the Federer forehand the same way he does to Nadal on clay and their matches are always extremely tight and highly competative. Those banking on Djokovic destroying Roger in the final might be in for a major shock, after all Fed almost beat Nadal in the French Open final in 2011. ;)

Well...let's not go nuts.

shtexas
06-02-2013, 06:00 AM
Day 8 start, after one no-pick:

29 Tsonga
17 Almagro
3 Federer
2 Ferrer

51

Drop-shot
06-02-2013, 06:42 AM
A brief recap of today's picks:

Tsonga 29: this was the pick of the day with Jo playing Roger next round, this was the last time you could use him. Unless you think he's going to beat Roger which takes me to....

Federer 3: easy win today; not so easy win in two days from now; but a win is a win and I think he's going to the final.

Almagro 17: if you hadn't already used him this is a great pick. He has a clear advantage over Robredo in their H2H and Tommy has played to 5 setters. Even if it goes the distance, Nico will be in a better position to battle it out.

Ferrer 2: yes he'll win, but you just took yourself out by picking him too early.

shtexas
06-02-2013, 08:05 AM
And with another monumental collapse from Almagro, we lose 17.

Drop-shot
06-02-2013, 08:11 AM
And with another monumental collapse from Almagro, we lose 17.

What have we learned? NEVER pick Almagro against Spaniards in Slams.

Moose
06-02-2013, 08:13 AM
Ferru and Jo are both looking sold at this point in the tourney - while I think Roger still has to be the favorite to get out of this half, his path is not nearly as neat and easy as I thought it might be this time last week.

Alan B
06-02-2013, 08:28 AM
And with another monumental collapse from Almagro, we lose 17.

Yeah, that was a rough way to get knocked out of my first French Open SP. Still alive in the women's after Kuznetsova's victory.

dryrunguy
06-02-2013, 10:49 AM
I still say the most painful part of the Suicide Pool is when the picks thread for the next day goes up right after you got eliminated. Ouch. :(

shtexas
06-02-2013, 11:31 AM
Day 8 (final):

29 Tsonga
17 Almagro :mad:
3 Federer
2 Ferrer

51 - 17 = 34

fatboy
06-02-2013, 01:08 PM
I still say the most painful part of the Suicide Pool is when the picks thread for the next day goes up right after you got eliminated. Ouch. :(

i reckon the most painful part is when you just scrape through with Haas at the last minute, so joyous! .. and then you forget to make the next pick! aaaarghhhhh! :(

dryrunguy
06-02-2013, 01:30 PM
i reckon the most painful part is when you just scrape through with Haas at the last minute, so joyous! .. and then you forget to make the next pick! aaaarghhhhh! :(

Ouch!

Argonaut
06-02-2013, 02:28 PM
Nico Nico Nico. Ouch that hurt, but good for Tommy.

SwissBliss
06-02-2013, 02:28 PM
I'm out of the pool but I just wanted to say congratulations to Roger on a fantastic comeback and win #900.

Also on his 36th consecutive quarterfinal, and becoming the winningest player at Roland Garros with his 58th match win. :cool:

Argonaut
06-02-2013, 02:51 PM
And by the way, Is that 3 straight matches for Tommy coming back from 2 sets down?

skatingfan
06-02-2013, 02:53 PM
And by the way, Is that 3 straight matches for Tommy coming back from 2 sets down?

It is - I wonder what the record for consecutive comebacks is?

Jason11E
06-02-2013, 03:03 PM
I still say the most painful part of the Suicide Pool is when the picks thread for the next day goes up right after you got eliminated. Ouch. :(

The most painful part of a SP is when your pick is up 2 sets to none or a break in the fifth and you start thinking about tomorrow's pick only to realize its a moot point after your player collapses.

omess
06-02-2013, 03:04 PM
It is - I wonder what the record for consecutive comebacks is?

Not sure but the last time they were 3 consecutive comebacks was in 1927

FEBravo
06-03-2013, 02:45 AM
My very rough (and unofficial) count for those up early or in different time zones:

14 Haas
12 Wawrinka
4 Youzhny
3 Gasquet

tennisbrp
06-03-2013, 03:36 AM
Youzhny may be my dumbest pick in any suicide pool. Oh well...good luck to the rest of you who remain.

jazzyg
06-03-2013, 03:42 AM
That was quick.

In fairness to the Youzhny pickers, he beat Haas pretty routinely in Rome a few weeks ago.

nad55
06-03-2013, 03:54 AM
That was quick.

In fairness to the Youzhny pickers, he beat Haas pretty routinely in Rome a few weeks ago.

that was the reason I picked him...

tennisbrp
06-03-2013, 05:09 AM
that was the reason I picked him...

I picked hime because I had used Haas and to me if this happened it gave me the best chance to beat the draw. couldn't touch wawrinka/gasquet so I would have used Nadal possibly

Drop-shot
06-03-2013, 05:20 AM
Only 34 reached week 2 (yikes!) Lets see how you have chosen...

13 Haas vs 4 Youzhny: as stated above, one wonders what moved these people to pick against Haas. He's been having a great year and Youzhny, well... not so much. I'm surprised he even got this far.

9 Wawrinka vs 3 Gasquet: in what may be one of the better matches of the tournament people chose from both sides. Personally I think Stan gets the win. Both are playing well, but Gasquet is a Frenchman playing at RG. Besides his slam record is rather lackluster.

Synth
06-03-2013, 05:24 AM
Hey Drop, that's only 29. 5 no picks this late in the game?

patrick
06-03-2013, 05:37 AM
Only 34 reached week 2 (yikes!) Lets see how you have chosen...

13 Haas vs 4 Youzhny: as stated above, one wonders what moved these people to pick against Haas. He's been having a great year and Youzhny, well... not so much. I'm surprised he even got this far.

9 Wawrinka vs 3 Gasquet: in what may be one of the better matches of the tournament people chose from both sides. Personally I think Stan gets the win. Both are playing well, but Gasquet is a Frenchman playing at RG. Besides his slam record is rather lackluster.

Also, Gasquet is 0 for his last 10 in Slam quarterfinals. Last quaterfinal win was at Wimbledon rallying from 2 sets to defeat Roddick(my SP pick on that day)

Drop-shot
06-03-2013, 05:40 AM
Hey Drop, that's only 29. 5 no picks this late in the game?

Shtexas passes along the numbers he has when he goes to sleep. That's why there are some missing. He later completes the count.

shtexas
06-03-2013, 05:47 AM
Day 9, after one no-pick:

14 Haas
12 Wawrinka
4 Youzhny
3 Gasquet

33

Synth
06-03-2013, 06:19 AM
Ahh cool, thanks guys!

omess
06-03-2013, 08:01 AM
Stan :mad:

shtexas
06-03-2013, 09:14 AM
Never underestimate Gasquet's ability to lose a two set lead.

jazzyg
06-03-2013, 10:14 AM
Drop,

First of all, I love your analysis. That makes the contest 10 times more fun that it already is, particularly in the early rounds.

But I don't see why you've been so negative on Youzhny all tournament. He handled Haas with ease on clay in Rome last month, so he had that going for him. Haas has wilted in five-set matches frequently in the past year, blowing a two-set lead to Gulbis at the U.S. Open last summer and losing 6-0, 6-0 in the final two sets to Gasquet at Roland Garros last year after splitting tiebreak sets. He was coming off a marathon 5-set win over Isner, so there was reason to believe his gas tank would hit empty today.

Ultimately, I decided not to pick Youzhny because Haas is the better player, and if he had no physical or mental issues, he would win. But it's easy to see the rationale of anyone who picked Youzhny.

AttackTheNet
06-03-2013, 10:20 AM
Never underestimate Gasquet's ability to lose a two set lead.

He's trying really hard, isn't he? :)

Drop-shot
06-03-2013, 10:34 AM
Drop,

First of all, I love your analysis. That makes the contest 10 times more fun that it already is, particularly in the early rounds.

But I don't see why you've been so negative on Youzhny all tournament. He handled Haas with ease on clay in Rome last month, so he had that going for him. Haas has wilted in five-set matches frequently in the past year, blowing a two-set lead to Gulbis at the U.S. Open last summer and losing 6-0, 6-0 in the final two sets to Gasquet at Roland Garros last year after splitting tiebreak sets. He was coming off a marathon 5-set win over Isner, so there was reason to believe his gas tank would hit empty today.

Ultimately, I decided not to pick Youzhny because Haas is the better player, and if he had no physical or mental issues, he would win. But it's easy to see the rationale of anyone who picked Youzhny.

He may have played well in Rome, but didn't do much elsewhere. That's why I'm surprised he got here. :)

ptmcmahon
06-03-2013, 10:36 AM
Never underestimate Gasquet's ability to lose a two set lead.

And waste 3 break points at 5-5 in 5th.

shtexas
06-03-2013, 10:49 AM
Day 9 (final):

14 Haas
12 Wawrinka
4 Youzhny
3 Gasquet

33 - 7 = 26

omess
06-03-2013, 11:12 AM
Never underestimate Gasquet's ability to lose a two set lead.

Didn't , know his history but I was just mad :(

rickym63
06-03-2013, 11:59 PM
Aahh Wawrinka, never in doubt.

Am I the only one going for an all-Spanish final? Or are most banking on the classic Fed-Nadal? With Djokovic looking strong, this must be one of the most difficult French to predict!

FEBravo
06-04-2013, 03:20 AM
Wow. If Robredo and Tsonga win their match, we'd have a winner already!

ptmcmahon
06-04-2013, 04:18 AM
Am I the only one going for an all-Spanish final?

Moi aussi (not that I'm still alive here though - but it was going to be my plan.)

Drop-shot
06-04-2013, 05:27 AM
Hello everybody -though everybody means only 26.

Of thee, the majority have gone with Ferrer (22): the obvious choice today. He hasn't been able to hurt Federer in his matchups. For today, one would guess that the Robredo train has run out of fuel just when it hits it's steepest obstacle.

Federer 2 vs Tsonga 1: I still think Federer gets by BUT, the Tsonga picker is not without hope. Jo has already beaten Roger in a slam (on grass no less) so he has the game; and any downs he might have (like against Simon) are even more dangerous.

shtexas
06-04-2013, 05:59 AM
Day 10 (after one no-pick):

22 Ferrer
2 Federer
1 Tsonga

25

shtexas
06-04-2013, 09:20 AM
Day 10 (final):

22 Ferrer
2 Federer
1 Tsonga

25 - 2 = 23

omess
06-04-2013, 09:21 AM
Well only SW195AE can still beat the draw. Nice pick !!!

shtexas
06-04-2013, 09:22 AM
Well only SW195AE can still beat the draw. Nice pick !!!

Yup

ptmcmahon
06-04-2013, 09:22 AM
Easy to say in hindsight but I was surprised that SO many went with Ferrer today. I think if I was still alive I would've taken Fed today (and crashed.)

SwissBliss
06-04-2013, 10:01 AM
Roger would have destroyed Ferrer in straight sets. Tsonga was the only person in the bottom half that could have beaten Roger after BERDYCH went out.

Now if Ferrer makes the final, Nadal will be the #5 seed at Wimbledon.

AttackTheNet
06-04-2013, 10:05 AM
Roger would have destroyed Ferrer in straight sets.

I wouldn't be so sure of this, especially on clay. But I guess we'll never find out now.

SwissBliss
06-04-2013, 10:08 AM
I am sure. Federer is 14-0 against Ferrer, including 5-0 on clay without almost ever dropping a set. Ferrer has no weapons that can hurt Roger, only these big bashers can beat him besides the other Big Four. Fed had a 99.9% chance of making the finals if he had made it through Tsonga.

skatingfan
06-04-2013, 10:12 AM
Roger would have destroyed Ferrer in straight sets. Tsonga was the only person in the bottom half that could have beaten Roger after BERDYCH went out.

Now if Ferrer makes the final, Nadal will be the #5 seed at Wimbledon.

I haven't figured out the points - Wimbledon men's seeding isn't based purely on rankings as the players get extra credit for grass court results within the last few seasons so not a done deal that Nadal will be #5 even if he is ranked #5 - 2010 Champion; 2011 Runner-Up might help him be ahead of Ferrer.

SwissBliss
06-04-2013, 10:12 AM
Roger not only leads their H2H 14-0, he also leads in sets 28-4.

SwissBliss
06-04-2013, 10:13 AM
I haven't figured out the points - Wimbledon men's seeding isn't based purely on rankings as the players get extra credit for grass court results within the last few seasons so not a done deal that Nadal will be #5 even if he is ranked #5 - 2010 Champion; 2011 Runner-Up might help him be ahead of Ferrer.

Wimbledon only counts grass results of last two seasons and he lost second round to Rosol last year. His win in 2010 won't count.

SwissBliss
06-04-2013, 10:16 AM
If Ferrer makes the final and Rafa wins the points will be:

David Ferrer 7,220
Rafael Nadal 6,895

He would have to hope for the grass formula to bail him out.

rickym63
06-04-2013, 12:13 PM
I see your points SwissBliss, but I thought Ferrer had to beat Federer ONE day, and had to reach a major final ONE day. What better chance than at this tournament?
Anyway, I think I will get the all-Spanish final I predicted, except wasn't counting on Tsonga beating Fed. Come to think of it, it is the second time I pick Federer in a quarterfinal to see him lose! Jinx?

jazzyg
06-04-2013, 02:47 PM
Roger would have destroyed Ferrer in straight sets. Tsonga was the only person in the bottom half that could have beaten Roger after BERDYCH went out.

Now if Ferrer makes the final, Nadal will be the #5 seed at Wimbledon.

This Roger is a shell of his former self on clay. He looked pathetic in Madrid, lousy in Rome and terrible for two sets against Simon. I'll always regret chickening out and not reversing my Fed and Tsonga picks because by the time that match started today, I expected a straight-set win for Tsonga.

Ferrer came very close to beating Nadal a month ago. I'm not sure he would have beaten Federer, but he certainly would have had an excellent chance.

I have no idea who will win the Ferrer-Tsonga match. if Ferrer plays his best, he should be able to beat Tsonga on clay. His return of serve is unbelievable, so Tsonga will win fewer free points, and Ferrer's forehand is underrated. But his mental strength is overrated. He often crumbles under pressure in big matches against top players, and he'll be facing a hostile crowd.

ponchi101
06-04-2013, 06:26 PM
Wonderful win for Jo Willy, but he did not beat Roger by himself. Simon softened Federer for him. The problem for Roger is that he is not able to recover as quickly as possible. As in the Olympics, he played a tough match and then had no time to recover. For all his wonderful, fluid game, he still plays a taxing style, attacking from all places and running around his backhand.
No aces and 34 unforced errors. That tells you that Jo won, but also Roger lost it.
For the semis (Jo Vs Ferru):
Fatigue. No factor. Both have played quick matches, and both will be fresh.
Strength: No contest. Jo simply hits bigger, from both sides.
Stamina: no contest. Ferru can JOG all the way to Chatrier, and would still have plenty on the tank.
Speed: About the same, in different ways. Ferru covers a clay court as well as anybody. Tsonga is more explosive, but being bigger, slides longer and does not recover as well.
Shots: Tsonga has more shots, Ferru is more consistent.
PRESSURE: Ferrer. He has the same pressure to make a GS final (Tsonga has made one, so not much difference there), but Jo knows that if he wins, he will be the toast of the nation. But if he loses, he will be French Toast. The french crowd can work both ways. Just ask Henri Laconte.
H2H: Irrelevant. 2-1, which somebody has to be if a 3 match series has not been swept.

I would not put any money on this match. It is a complete toss up, the way I see it.

scineram
06-05-2013, 12:05 AM
If you are tired after a 3 hour match you suck.

Drop-shot
06-05-2013, 04:40 AM
Finally we have reached the crossroads of destiny... many of you have chosen the winner of the much anticipated Djokovic-Nadal semifinal, and probable winner of RG by your pick today.

The numbers so far:
Djokovic 11 vs Haas 1: unless Nole has some unexpected meltdown -or the weather turns Miami cold- he should win.

Nadal 9: he should get past Stan -with the aid of Gasquet's 5 setter. Next round is anybody's guess.

shtexas
06-05-2013, 05:11 AM
Day 11 (start):

12 Djokovic
10 Nadal
1 Haas

23

shtexas
06-05-2013, 09:41 AM
Day 11 (final):

12 Djokovic
10 Nadal
1 Haas

23 - 1 = 22

shtexas
06-05-2013, 07:16 PM
Men's Day 13 thread will go up in the morning (US time)

One person is still capable of beating the draw, but needs both Nadal and Ferrer to win their semis.

Otherwise, we will have large ties (depending who wins the semis), where no one will have a pick for the final.

In that event, however, there will be a men's final tiebreak thread for those who picked correctly in the semis, because in addition to medals, we have a prize to give. So, don't miss out.

omess
06-05-2013, 08:27 PM
Men's Day 13 thread will go up in the morning (US time)

One person is still capable of beating the draw, but needs both Nadal and Ferrer to win their semis.

Otherwise, we will have large ties (depending who wins the semis), where no one will have a pick for the final.

In that event, however, there will be a men's final tiebreak thread for those who picked correctly in the semis, because in addition to medals, we have a prize to give. So, don't miss out.

I hope SW195AE goes for it...

shtexas
06-06-2013, 09:05 PM
Day 13 start:

11 Nadal
10 Djokovic
1 Ferrer

22

Possible outcomes:

Djokovic/Ferrer final: 11 people win, receive medals, and are eligible to play the men’s final tiebreak for a prize.

Djokovic/Tsonga final: 10 people win, receive medals, and are eligible to play the men’s final tiebreak for a prize.

Nadal/Tsonga final: 11 people win, receive medals, and are eligible to play the men’s final tiebreak for a prize.

Nadal/Ferrer final: We have one winner (medal and prize). That person can still beat the draw and will make a day 15 pick, when that thread goes up, to make it official.

Drop-shot
06-07-2013, 04:24 AM
Oy, the much anticipated final is a semifinal...

Nadal 11 vs Djokovic 10: there's not much to say here so I'll keep it short. As much as my heart aches for this, I think Nole wins this match and the next. I hope I'm dead wrong though.

Ferrer 1: not sure he can make it against Tsonga (all depends if he continues to play inspired), but this was the pick to make if you wanted to beat the draw.

shtexas
06-07-2013, 08:54 AM
Day 13 start:

11 Nadal
10 Djokovic
1 Ferrer

22

Possible outcomes:

Djokovic/Ferrer final: 11 people win, receive medals, and are eligible to play the men’s final tiebreak for a prize.

Djokovic/Tsonga final: 10 people win, receive medals, and are eligible to play the men’s final tiebreak for a prize.

Nadal/Tsonga final: 11 people win, receive medals, and are eligible to play the men’s final tiebreak for a prize.

Nadal/Ferrer final: We have one winner (medal and prize). That person can still beat the draw and will make a day 15 pick, when that thread goes up, to make it official.

The first two options are out.

FedHenin
06-07-2013, 09:28 AM
So very close to my 1st medal...and now it all relies on Tsonga winning! Either way, second time I've made it this far and run out of picks for the final. Not great...but not horrible I suppose. Let's Go Tsonga!

shtexas
06-07-2013, 11:20 AM
And then there was one...

AttackTheNet
06-07-2013, 11:24 AM
SW195AE! Gets some time to think about his/her pick. :)

Ribbons
06-07-2013, 11:24 AM
Wow. Way to go, SW195AE!!! :overhead_clap: