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Togtdyalttai
11-08-2012, 07:59 PM
http://escwebsblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/eurovision-2013-logo.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfo-8z86x80


After Loreen won the 2012 Eurovision Song Contest in Baku with the interpretive dance song "Euphoria," (video above) Sweden was given the right to host Eurovision 2013. Sweden is probably the most Eurovision-crazed country in existence, so naturally many people were happy to see them win. Most thought that they would host the 2013 contest in Stockholm's newly built Friends Arena, which would have made it the most-attended contest ever. Instead they chose to scale down the contest and send it to Malmö.

Although there aren't any human rights concerns this year, there is still controversy. Just today, the ESC bigwigs announced that instead of having a random draw to determine performance order, the producers would determine the order themselves. Although if this is done fairly it could make for a better show, it could easily lead to contest fixing allegations as, in general, positions near the end of the contest are preferable. More information on the subject can be found here (http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=running_order_malmoe_2013_to_be_determined _by_producers)

The contest will take place in mid-May, with the two semifinals on May 14th and 16th, and the final on the 18th. Returning this year is Armenia, who withdrew last year due to safety concerns in Azerbaijan. Of those who participated last year, Portugal, Greece, San Marino, and Montenegro have yet to confirm their participation. Poland, who withdrew last year, may or may not return.

National selections are already underway, with the first National Final, that of Belarus, due to take place on December 7th. Switzerland, Lithuania, and Albania will also have their finals in the month of December.

Togtdyalttai
11-08-2012, 08:08 PM
Lys Assia, who won the first Eurovision back in 1956 (she's now 88), has teamed up with hip-hop group NewJack to attempt to represent Switzerland in this year's contest. Switzerland's selection is composed of 3 mini-selections by the French, German, and Italian-Swiss broadcasters, and then a national final with the winners from each.

The Swiss-German selection had around 100 videos online which anyone could vote on (I tried, but my non-fluency in German was a bit of a snag). It's that selection in which Assia participated in, and although the voting is over, the results haven't been announced yet. They will be on Monday. Lys and NewJack's song is below. It's quite the spectacle.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FlLaDei6c8

Togtdyalttai
12-07-2012, 08:27 PM
BELARUS - Alyona Lanskaya - Rhythm of Love

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The first song for Eurovision 2013 has been chosen! Alyona Lanskaya will represent Belarus in Malmö with "Rhythm of Love," or at least for now. Belarus has a history of changing their song, and they even did so last year when they originally selected Ms. Lanskaya as well, only to replace her a month later.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FmkrrSFe2w

Togtdyalttai
12-15-2012, 01:36 PM
SWITZERLAND - Heilsarmee - You And Me

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Switzerland selected Heilsarmee (translation: Salvation Army) as their participant in Malmö in a 9-song national final. As the voting was 100% televoting and Heilsarmee had a huge publicity campaign, this was no surprise. Switzerland has not done well recently in Eurovision, and I doubt this year will be any different.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAjjH3GdsQ4

Togtdyalttai
12-16-2012, 09:28 AM
BELGIUM - Roberto Bellarosa - Love Kills

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Belgium alternates years for Wallonia and Flanders to choose an entry, and this was Wallonia's year to choose. Wallonia usually has songs that aren't as good as the ones Flanders selects. Belgium internally selected an artist, then picked 3 songs for an audience to choose from. Two were in English, and one in French, but it was clear that the artist could sing the French song better. Naturally, one of the English songs was chosen.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIXLpyjneRE

Togtdyalttai
12-20-2012, 01:46 PM
LITHUANIA - Andrius Pojavis - Something

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Lithuania had a long selection process consisting of 5 heats, 2 semifinals, and a grand final. In total, there were 45 songs involved, and to be honest it seemed as though the songs that passed to the next round may as well have been chosen at random. Andrius Pojavis was ultimately selected, although coming into the final he was one of the least hyped entries.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG9RipaLIvs

Togtdyalttai
12-22-2012, 03:24 PM
ALBANIA - Adrian Lulgjuraj & Bledar Sejko - Identitet

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Albania, in a final with 17 songs, chose one of them that was the least hyped coming in. They also chose the first rock song of Eurovision 2013. As this is Albania though, beware. The song will likely be translated to English and modified quite a bit. I do hope the guitar chewing stays though.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivu0DHMC7Gw

Togtdyalttai
12-22-2012, 08:45 PM
Tomorrow marks the end of the national finals for a while, with Ukraine set to choose its song. Although there might be an entry announced internally soon (Lys Assia is rumored to be representing San Marino with the song I posted above), there isn't another national final until January 26th. After that I'll be revealing my favorite entries of the national finals that have already taken place.

Togtdyalttai
12-23-2012, 09:56 AM
UKRAINE - Zlata Ognevich - Gravity

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Ukraine held their national final at 11 in the morning today, following up on Belgium's lead last week. They selected the most hyped singer, who ended up getting more televotes than all of the other acts combined. Her song is something of a Disney-like ballad, but even though those tend not to do so well, she is already one of the favorites for ESC 2013.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km1Vt6D6tks

Togtdyalttai
12-25-2012, 10:21 PM
So for each national final, I'm going to post 2-3 songs: 1 that was my favorite, 1 that was a fan favorite, and 1 that's hilariously hideous. I'll start here with Belarus:

Rhythm of Love was my favorite, so I'll skip posting one for that.

Here's something that was a fan favorite. Nuteki were popular last year as well in the national selection for Belarus.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79oZbNXsoN8

Togtdyalttai
12-25-2012, 10:21 PM
Now for the joke. This guy's voice is, well, there really is no word for it. You have to see it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwpNf0OLivo

oohsalmon
12-26-2012, 10:51 PM
Just catching up. What an awful start to this year. Switzerland is my #1 so far, I guess, but not sure they would have been top 30 for me in 2012.

Togtdyalttai
12-27-2012, 10:09 AM
Just catching up. What an awful start to this year. Switzerland is my #1 so far, I guess, but not sure they would have been top 30 for me in 2012.

I think it's an okay start, not great but that often happens. Ukraine is my favorite so far.

Togtdyalttai
12-28-2012, 09:19 AM
Now for Switzerland's national final. First, my favorite. It doesn't have the best performance, but it's a great song I think. I'll put a link to the studio version as well so you can see that.

J'avais rendez-vous studio version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCuWQfDAwfw)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tToPDh4ILb0

Togtdyalttai
12-28-2012, 09:22 AM
Now the fan favorite. Chiara Dubey had an entry in last year's Swiss national final as well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfvsL8Dgx4w

Togtdyalttai
12-28-2012, 09:26 AM
And something awful.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QpNxC7YSXU

Togtdyalttai
12-31-2012, 02:28 PM
Lithuania time!

My favorite didn't even qualify to the final. :( For some reason, the juries hated it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0KFVz6l2uw

Togtdyalttai
12-31-2012, 02:33 PM
Strangely enough, the biggest fan favorite also failed to qualify to the final.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl6rh0lWyjE

Togtdyalttai
12-31-2012, 02:35 PM
This awful band actually qualified to the semifinal. Luckily it stayed there.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tVQi2LkpQM

Togtdyalttai
12-31-2012, 02:36 PM
I'll also post one more video from the Lithuanian selection. It's called Loreen, after the winner of last year's Eurovision, and includes lyrics such as "I wanna be your son".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpy-Fw_yGE

Togtdyalttai
01-01-2013, 03:47 PM
I forgot Belgium! There's only two more songs from the national final. One is both my favorite and the fan favorite, and the other, while not as bad as the one selected, I suppose will have to do. First my/the fan favorite.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vru32lzo0UY

Togtdyalttai
01-01-2013, 03:49 PM
Now the other English song that Roberto Bellarosa couldn't seem to sing right.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiGX7SZCDRg

Togtdyalttai
01-02-2013, 10:02 AM
Here's my favorite from the Albanian selection (she represented Albania at Eurovision in 2009).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hrVHzcjUuQ

Togtdyalttai
01-02-2013, 10:04 AM
Although my favorite is probably more of a fan favorite, here's another one from Albania's first Eurovision representative in 2004.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBl7kNbTHqU

Togtdyalttai
01-02-2013, 10:06 AM
I wouldn't say this song is that bad, but there really weren't too many bad songs in Festivali i Kenges (that's the name for the Albanian selection show).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Rnuxbwdsw

Togtdyalttai
01-03-2013, 12:21 PM
Now the most recent country's national selection: Ukraine's. My favorite turned out as a bit of a dud. The performance wasn't nearly what it could have been, and taking that in mind I know prefer the song chosen (Zlata Ognevich's Gravity).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvJq_R3CCuQ

Togtdyalttai
01-03-2013, 12:22 PM
The fan favorite reminds me or Dima Bilan. In case you don't know of him, here he is in all his arrogance.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bawnwSYOCFU

Togtdyalttai
01-03-2013, 12:25 PM
Now the actual fan favorite.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zfaYYfP8Ds

Togtdyalttai
01-03-2013, 04:23 PM
And the awful song, this is a far-less-charming version of the Buranovskiye Babushki.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoNolmlxdGk

Togtdyalttai
01-26-2013, 02:04 PM
DENMARK - Emmelie de Forest - Only Teardrops

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Denmark had its usual 10-song national final today. They are a country known for sending safe, bland songs to Eurovision. While this one isn't exactly risky, it's definitely not bland and it easily stood out the most from the others. It has been compared to the Slovakian entry from 3 years ago, which finished second to last in its semifinal despite being a fan favorite. This one's also a fan favorite, but Denmark's in a much better position geopolitically and this song's in English, not Slovak.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XqOYAGgiFE

Togtdyalttai
01-26-2013, 10:22 PM
As promised, Slovakia 2010:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwRxryf6AZk

Togtdyalttai
02-02-2013, 03:17 PM
ICELAND - Eyþór Ingi Gunnlaugsson - Ég á Líf

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Iceland's final, Söngvakeppni Sjónvarpsins, was, as usual, full of good songs compared to the rest of the national finals. Jóhanna, Iceland's 2009 representative, and Birgitta, their 2003 entrant, both participated, but Jóhanna failed to qualify for the final (believe me, her song wasn't deserving of it) and Birgitta failed to make the final 2. In the end, a ballad reminiscent to some of Estonia 2012 was selected.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr6-V8KzpJs

Togtdyalttai
02-02-2013, 03:22 PM
MALTA - Gianluca Bezzina - Tomorrow

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Malta somehow managed to get 24 participants in their national final (their population is around 450,000), and they filled 2 straight nights with loads of advertisements and crappy interval acts. They ended up selecting a song from a doctor (singers in Malta don't make enough money to do only that). The choice was surprising, given the hype a winner of the Swedish version of American Idol received beforehand.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XVmeA3pPpA

Togtdyalttai
02-02-2013, 03:39 PM
I've also updated the older videos of selected songs that had been taken off of YouTube. Check back in the thread if you haven't already seen them.

Togtdyalttai
02-10-2013, 12:13 PM
FINLAND - Krista Siegfrids - Marry Me

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Finland selected a Finnoswede for the third straight year. This minority in their country seems to vote in much greater numbers than the Finnish majority. Her song that was selected is an uptempo one that is reminiscent of Katy Perry.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uxtGRWCvIU

Togtdyalttai
02-10-2013, 12:17 PM
NORWAY - Margaret Berger - I Feed You My Love

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Norway chose an electro-pop entry that seems to be very polarizing. It also seems to me to be the most likely entry selected so far to win the entire contest.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hnC6T3cOzo

Togtdyalttai
02-10-2013, 12:55 PM
I wanted to share a tennis-related video pertaining to Eurovision. Denmark's entry has been mashed up with Jerzy Janowicz's outburst at the AO this year. It's good fun.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JnX8e_KZU

Togtdyalttai
02-14-2013, 09:05 PM
CYPRUS - Despina Olympiou - An Me Thimase

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Cyprus internally selected a love song from Despina Olympiou. She is a fairly well-known singer there, and I expect her to be able to sing well live, but the song is possibly elements it needs to do well at ESC.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSvv7ie0Hio

Togtdyalttai
02-14-2013, 09:08 PM
SLOVENIA - Hannah Mancini - Straight Into Love

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Slovenia's singer is an American, and they selected an uptempo dance song that is quite the departure from the ethno-ballads of the previous two years. I don't think that departure will help them much though.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ3DLqFfQVo

Togtdyalttai
02-14-2013, 09:12 PM
GERMANY - Cascada - Glorious

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Here's a band you've probably heard of. Cascada is quite possibly the most popular act in the USA ever to enter Eurovision. Despite a stiff challenge from a Bavarian brass band, Cascada won the German national final. Their song is somewhat like last year's winner, Euphoria, but different enough to possibly make an impact at Eurovision.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgrq8P_97Hg

Togtdyalttai
02-14-2013, 09:14 PM
I'll change the flags back to what they were tomorrow hopefully. There's also going to be two more countries (Latvia and Austria) selecting their songs this weekend.

Togtdyalttai
02-15-2013, 05:41 PM
AUSTRIA - Natália Kelly - Shine

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Austria had a small 5-song national final in which the artists each sung a song that won a past Eurovision contest, then followed with their entries. They selected a ballad that is highly reminiscent of their 2011 entry, but which I think will likely do better than that one did.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEaouK7w0Y0

Togtdyalttai
02-16-2013, 05:44 PM
LATVIA - PeR - Here We Go

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Latvia selected a boy band that will probably end up being the closest thing to Jedward. They don't have quite as big a following though, and Latvia doesn't have as good a record in Eurovision of late as Ireland does either.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpoH0xGJrHo

Togtdyalttai
02-18-2013, 01:40 PM
GREECE - Koza Mostra feat. Agathonas Iakobidis - Alcohol Is Free

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Greece had a 4-song national final that included many former winners, and ended up choosing an ethnic band with a song entirely in Greek except for the three word chorus: Alcohol is free.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U22AOVVjCjU

oohsalmon
02-19-2013, 01:09 AM
I am proud to be Latvian with how ridiculous that is. Really still think it's a weak field so far, but if I have to pick anything to win of this group it's gotta be Denmark or Austria. That Norwegian one is just too weird.

Togtdyalttai
02-19-2013, 01:00 PM
I think Denmark, Norway, and maybe Ukraine with a good revamp are the only possible winners selected so far. I'm going to hold back on revealing my favorites until all songs have been selected.

Togtdyalttai
02-23-2013, 08:11 PM
IRELAND - Ryan Dolan - Only Love Survives

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Ireland selected a boybandish song that, if it ends up qualifying, will likely do so because of the backing singers and drummers rather than the main singer. In any case, he likely will not attract as many voters as Jedward did the last two years.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRRt85BiarI

dryrunguy
02-24-2013, 01:13 PM
I was worried that I was the only one who thought this was looking like a weak year--unless I've missed some entries. I've tried to keep up.

That said, Denmark is my early favorite. But there are still several entries to be determined, yes?

Togtdyalttai
02-24-2013, 03:07 PM
RUSSIA - Dina Garipova - What If

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Russia chose a female ballad that already has a lot of haters, but also a lot of people saying Russia will win. Given how Russia usually does in Eurovision, I think it'll probably be in the top 10, possibly top 5, but I'll wait for more songs to see if it's a possible winner.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKDKJiXpYfk

Togtdyalttai
02-24-2013, 03:09 PM
I was worried that I was the only one who thought this was looking like a weak year--unless I've missed some entries. I've tried to keep up.

That said, Denmark is my early favorite. But there are still several entries to be determined, yes?

Exactly half (19/38) of the entries have been chosen and released. In the next week, we'll get songs from Spain, Croatia, Macedonia, Armenia, Estonia, Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria, and most likely Georgia.

Togtdyalttai
02-26-2013, 06:56 PM
SPAIN - ESDM - El Sueño de Morfeo - Contigo hasta el final

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Spain internally selected a folkish band, then had a national final with 4 different songs of theirs. The song that won seems like it wants to be something other than a ballad, especially with the bagpipe beginning, but ends up being just that. Another song in the selection was more like Denmark's entry this year.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4lbVamlIHM

dryrunguy
02-27-2013, 07:22 AM
Tog, it appears the video of the Russian entry has been removed.

Togtdyalttai
02-27-2013, 08:02 AM
GEORGIA - Sophie & Nodi - Waterfall

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Georgia's internally selected song is a ballad composed by Thomas G:son, the composer of last year's winner, Euphoria (as well as Spain's entry, Quédate Conmigo). This one's not going to do as well as either of those.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUSBPRkdmzI

Togtdyalttai
02-27-2013, 08:09 AM
CROATIA - Klapa s Mora - Mižerja

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Croatia first chose a song, then found a traditional klapa (klapa essentially means group in Croatian) to sing it. This entry should be different from any of the others, but I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouqGFdvoxH8

Togtdyalttai
02-27-2013, 08:10 AM
Tog, it appears the video of the Russian entry has been removed.

Should be fixed now.

dryrunguy
02-27-2013, 09:58 AM
Should be fixed now.

Thanks, Tog. When I was looking for it online earlier, I saw some articles/videos suggesting that the Russian song is plagiarized (from several other songs). In any case, it's my new favorite so far, but I'm horribly biased when it comes to that kind of song content. I lose all objectivity.

Togtdyalttai
02-27-2013, 10:08 AM
Thanks, Tog. When I was looking for it online earlier, I saw some articles/videos suggesting that the Russian song is plagiarized (from several other songs). In any case, it's my new favorite so far, but I'm horribly biased when it comes to that kind of song content. I lose all objectivity.

I heard about one of those songs, listened to it, and it's not that similar. Shouldn't be much of a problem.

Did you see the accusations about Germany's song as well? Some people said it was plagiarism of Euphoria (quite stupid really, the only similarity those two songs have is their genre), and others said it stole parts from Swedish House Mafia's Don't You Worry Child. The comparison to Euphoria was thoroughly researched and rightfully disproved (G:son himself even said it wasn't plagiarism), but the one to Don't You Worry Child wasn't, and I think that was the comparison that made more sense.

Togtdyalttai
02-27-2013, 03:22 PM
MACEDONIA - Esma & Lozano - Imperija

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Macedonia internally selected two artists from two different genres, folk queen Esma Redzepova and Pop/Rock artist Vlatko Lozanoski. The song they made together has the potential to take Eurovision by storm, or crash and burn.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6QIl0lOfUA

Togtdyalttai
02-27-2013, 08:02 PM
Thanks, Tog. When I was looking for it online earlier, I saw some articles/videos suggesting that the Russian song is plagiarized (from several other songs). In any case, it's my new favorite so far, but I'm horribly biased when it comes to that kind of song content. I lose all objectivity.

By that kind of song content, I suppose you mean songs supporting peace? In that case, did you like Finland 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fj9of4IzFU)?

Jay
02-28-2013, 01:45 AM
I'd say Spain's entry is more of a rock band with celtic influences (although, they have folk influences too, but this is just nit-picking). They're from Asturias, with the exception of the singer who is from the Canary Islands, so the celtic music influence makes sense.
Anyway, I like it, but I'm not especially wowed by it like I was with last year's entry.

I also like Denmark's.

I sort of feel underwhelmed with the entries this year. Like Dry, I feel like it's a weak year....so far (more entries to come, of course)

dryrunguy
02-28-2013, 09:39 AM
By that kind of song content, I suppose you mean songs supporting peace? In that case, did you like Finland 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fj9of4IzFU)?

A few things. First, that year I was all about Azerbaijan. :) Second, I wasn't paying such close attention to global issues, then. So I didn't really notice this song at all. But even now, it makes me want to sleep. I definitely like this year's Russian entry better--and it's just plain a better song, IMHO.

Togtdyalttai
02-28-2013, 10:13 AM
A few things. First, that year I was all about Azerbaijan. :) Second, I wasn't paying such close attention to global issues, then. So I didn't really notice this song at all. But even now, it makes me want to sleep. I definitely like this year's Russian entry better--and it's just plain a better song, IMHO.

Agreed on all counts. Finland's 2011 entry was the worst out of their last 4, and naturally it was the only one to make the final without a jury wildcard.

Togtdyalttai
02-28-2013, 10:14 AM
I'd say Spain's entry is more of a rock band with celtic influences (although, they have folk influences too, but this is just nit-picking). They're from Asturias, with the exception of the singer who is from the Canary Islands, so the celtic music influence makes sense.
Anyway, I like it, but I'm not especially wowed by it like I was with last year's entry.

I also like Denmark's.

I sort of feel underwhelmed with the entries this year. Like Dry, I feel like it's a weak year....so far (more entries to come, of course)

I agree with you about Spain's entry. In general I quite like Celtic music, but this isn't anything spectacular. Good, but not great like last year's.

Togtdyalttai
02-28-2013, 10:19 AM
To get you all pumped for the big weekend (selections by Estonia, Hungary, and Armenia on Saturday, Serbia and Bulgaria on Sunday), here's a little something from Estonia from a band named Winny Puhh (it's one of the favorites to win their selection):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqr7Y5dV0p8

dryrunguy
02-28-2013, 10:43 AM
Agreed on all counts. Finland's 2011 entry was the worst out of their last 4, and naturally it was the only one to make the final without a jury wildcard.

Worse than THIS from 2010? I think this song gave me the clap clap!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uclcHNr8cmE

Togtdyalttai
02-28-2013, 11:42 AM
Worse than THIS from 2010? I think this song gave me the clap clap!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uclcHNr8cmE

That's actually my favorite Finnish song of the years I've seen :lipsrsealed:

Togtdyalttai
03-02-2013, 02:00 PM
ARMENIA - Dorians - Lonely Planet

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Armenia selected alternative rock singer Gor Sujyan internally, and he chose to bring his band, Dorians, with him. They asked the public for songs, and chose 4 of them to compete in a national final. The one selected will likely keep Armenia out of the final for the third straight year (though they didn't compete last year).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bektj-KsEK8

Togtdyalttai
03-02-2013, 02:09 PM
HUNGARY - ByeAlex - Kedvesem

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Hungary had a national final with 3 heats, 2 semifinals, and a final, which is, I believe, its longest selection process ever. They ended up selecting an indie ballad (I think, correct me if I'm wrong identifying genres) instead of the pop ballad favorite. As there was a rule in the national final requiring songs to be in Hungarian, there's a good chance this will be translated to English.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwMgAS858YQ

Togtdyalttai
03-02-2013, 02:16 PM
ESTONIA - Birgit Õigemeel - Et uus saaks alguse

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Estonia spared all of us and did not select Winny Puhh. Instead they followed in the footsteps of their 6th place last year and selected another ballad. Given last year's result, it'll probably stay in Estonian.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02uHFbCN2JI

suliso
03-02-2013, 02:48 PM
No idea what she is singing about, but I kind of like the Estonian girl :)

Togtdyalttai
03-02-2013, 07:23 PM
No idea what she is singing about, but I kind of like the Estonian girl :)

Here's the song's lyrics:

I still remember when I came out of my soul
it feels so great to stay
Now, I’m standing in the same way
Looking into the heart, there’s the whistling wind

But I know I know
can make all the
every time the door closes
It will open again

More ice melts and breaks bare tree blossom
every end is a new beginning more than
it is necessary to bring the night to day light
that could be the beginning of a new
Let this be a measure of the far
A new beginning that could be

Cards will be returned
The next act is about to begin
I get up in the land
the soul
but the new game yet to come
My fate will be changed
is my new path

And I know I know
can make all the
every time the door closes
It will open again

More ice melts and breaks bare tree blossom
every end is a new beginning more than
it is necessary to bring the night to day light
that could be the beginning of a new
Let this be a measure of the far
A new beginning that could be re

More ice melts and breaks bare tree blossom
every end is a new beginning more than
it is necessary to bring the night to day light
that could be the beginning of a new
Far be that far

Ice melts and breaks bare tree blossom
every end is a new beginning more than
it is necessary to bring the night to day light
that could be the beginning of a new
Let this be a measure of the far
A new beginning that could be
A new beginning that could be

Togtdyalttai
03-02-2013, 07:28 PM
In honor of Bulgaria's selection tomorrow, I'll post the video of their best result. They have selected the same duo that represented them in 2007, Elitsa Todorova and Stoyan Yankulov, who finished fifth. Bulgaria will select from 3 songs for them tomorrow, but first here's their 2007 entry.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjMcPnFXUg8

Togtdyalttai
03-03-2013, 02:01 PM
BULGARIA - Elitsa Todorova & Stoyan Yankulov - Kismet

http://makegif.com/gbEI.gif

Bulgaria chose a song very much like Water (see above), but this one likely won't have the same popularity as that did, if for no other reason than it's simply more of the same.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0tHF3eOtDA

Togtdyalttai
03-03-2013, 02:08 PM
SERBIA - Moje 3 - Ljubav je svuda

http://makegif.com/gbEJ.gif

Serbia had a 15-song national final that featured a lot of ballads in the style that they're famous for. Instead of one of those winning, an uptempo song from a girl band did. I don't know that it will do well, but Serbia always gets a lot of neighbor voting support.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlxL_5f8Fug

Togtdyalttai
03-04-2013, 07:19 PM
As I did last year, I'll be previewing the highest profile national final, Sweden's Melodifestivalen, at some point this week. This year, it has the extra hype that comes with selecting the host nation's entry. The final takes place on Saturday.

Togtdyalttai
03-05-2013, 01:35 PM
BELARUS - Alyona Lanskaya - Solayoh

http://makegif.com/gbqD.gif

Belarus changed their song (but not their singer) from a catchy dance tune to a catchier, more uptempo one. While her live performance at the national final back in December left something to be desired, I do think Solayoh will do better in Eurovision than Rhythm of Love would have.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZItIDwsF7Lg

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 07:52 PM
http://www.escdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/melodifestivalen2013ql1_2.jpg

Melodifestivalen 2013 has quite the contest last year to live up to. It chose a winner that would go on to achieve the second highest Eurovision point total in history. What it didn't have, however, was competition.

Unlike Loreen last year, there is no clear favorite this year. Instead, there's 3 contestants with a realistic shot to win. Here's what you have to look forward to on Saturday (you can see Melodifestivalen live at 2 PM EST or watch it later on this website. (http://www.svt.se/melodifestivalen/)).

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 07:57 PM
Before I preview the finalists, here's my favorite song that failed to qualify for the final. It might remind you of France's 2010 entry, Allez Ola Olé.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJPQ_epgUd0

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 08:06 PM
Now the finalists. I'll be posting them by the order they'll perform in the final.


1. Ulrik Munther - Tell The World I'm Here (Bet 365 odds: 6-1)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0bOCYIgyD0


Background: Ulrik came into Melodifestivalen as the huge favorite. He finished 3rd in last year's contest with Soldiers, and his song is composed by the omnipresent Thomas G:son. Then he performed last in the 4th and final semi (the position usually given to the pre-contest favorite), and his odds started to rise. He was even outshined in his own semi by Ralf Gyllenhammar. He remains a threat to win though, as the first slot in Melodifestivalen has been the 3rd most successful over the years.

My Opinion: I find this song bland, uninspired, and boring. If it were to win, I would be quite irked by Sweden's choice. The fact that he has a LED screen in the background during his performance would also go against Sweden's own goal of downsizing Eurovision.

Prediction: 3rd.

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 08:22 PM
2. David Lindgren - Skyline (Bet 365 odds: 74-1)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc3JRHLyuBw

Background: David Lindgren participated in Melodifestivalen last year as well, finishing 4th. His song last year was more of a vote-getter than this one is though. It's also been said to be a stylistic copy of Danny Saucedo's Amazing, which finished 2nd in last year's contest (incidentally, Danny is co-hosting this year's contest). This song has essentially been forgotten after being performed first in the first semifinal.

My Opinion: I preferred last year's song as well, and his voice is just a bit too screamy for my taste. That said, I don't mind it as much as some of the other songs in this final.

Prediction: 10th (Last).

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 08:28 PM
3. State of Drama - Falling (Bet 365 Odds: 33-1)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcEBEekq6eA

Background: You know how I said Skyline has been forgotten? Well this really has been. It's probably the least talked about song in the final. I don't think too many people will vote for it either. State of Drama doesn't even have an English Wikipedia page.

My Opinion: I think it's very boring, and it does nothing for me. Then again, I'm not usually one to go for male ballads in English.

Prediction: 8th.

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 08:34 PM
4. Anton Ewald - Begging (Bet 365 Odds: 9-1)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx0rc-BB1W8

Background: Anton qualified through second chance, beating out Behrang Miri to get there. In so doing, he created quite a bit of hype for himself, especially among people attracted by his signature crotch grab. His song is similar to David Lindgren and Robin Stjernberg's though, and those 3 will likely be competing for votes. For that reason, I don't see him doing that well.

My Opinion: I think his song is okay, but his voice isn't too great. I think it's about in the middle of the road for the contest.

Prediction: 5th.

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 08:39 PM
5. Louise Hoffsten - Only The Dead Fish Follow The Stream (Bet 365 Odds: 16-1)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRkSf2elwGo

Background: You might have noticed that the first four acts were all males. Well, it turns out that Louise is the ONLY female in the final. That's likely to work in her favor. Her song is also a bit unique in this field. However, I don't think she will be able to appeal to a wide enough audience to be a real threat to win.

My Opinion: I think her song's listenable, if a bit boring. It's at least good to have it here among all of the male songs.

Prediction: 4th.

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 08:49 PM
6. Ralf Gyllenhammar - Bed On Fire (Bet 365 Odds: 17-10)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74N6b3FijjM

Background: As I said, Ralf surprisingly outshined Ulrik in the last semi, and he is now one of the favorites to win. His song is far away from the stereotypical Melodifestivalen song; it's a rock ballad with no dancing or choreography whatsoever. What is stereotypical of Melodifestivalen is the pyrotechnics that accompany it. Ralf has also received the same spot in the running order as Loreen won from last year, and throughout this week his odds have been falling, falling to the point where he has almost caught up to YOHIO as the betting favorite.

My Opinion: I quite like it, and it's grown on me since I first heard it. Although it's not my absolute favorite, I think it would be the best choice Sweden could make to represent them, both because of how well they would likely do with it and because it would be something the home crowd could rally behind with pride.

Prediction: 1st.

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 08:57 PM
7. Ravaillacz - En Riktig Jävla Schlager (Bet 365 Odds: 74-1)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0b5lQgQJ7g

Background: This is one of those songs that references itself, somewhat like Latvia's Beautiful Song last year. It translates roughly to "A Damn Popular Song". It wasn't expected to qualify to the final, but when it did, one of the band's members asked his fans on his Facebook page not to vote for them. Another member got badly sick last week and was hospitalized, jeopardizing Ravaillacz's participation in the final. In any case, this is a bit of a joke entry with no chance to end up in the top half of the scoreboard.

My Opinion: It's not really my cup of tea, but it's funny in its own way.

Prediction: 9th.

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 09:06 PM
8. Sean Banan - Copacabanana (Bet 365 odds: 40-1)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9lYdiFTpnI

Background: Sean Banan also participated in last year's contest with Sean Den Förste Banan, losing in the second chance round. His act this year is even more over the top, and even more satirical. In this song, at various moments he says "Everyone gets a first place, Danny a second place" (in reference to Danny Saucedo finishing 2nd in Melodifestivalen 2 years in a row), "Hey Christer Türkman" (dressing up as a Turk in a playful gesture to the head of Sweden's Eurovision committee, Christer Björkman), and "Together in a sweaty yellow alliance" (I don't even know what that's a reference to). It probably won't fare too well, but it's good for the final to have it here.

My Opinion: This is my favorite song of the year, though I preferred his entry last year. Watching him perform is quite the entertainment experience.

Prediction: 7th.

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 09:12 PM
9. Robin Stjernberg - You (Bet 365 Odds: 17-2)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sa9C_G_GdY

Background: Robin Stjernberg, like Anton Ewald, qualified through the second chance round, and his performance there was better than that in the semifinal. Competing with Anton and David for votes should also bring him down though.

My Opinion: I don't like this at all. The way he says "you" quite annoys me.

Prediction: 6th.

Togtdyalttai
03-06-2013, 09:24 PM
10. YOHIO - Heartbreak Hotel (Bet 365 Odds: 4-5)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y36DqNAaXzc

Background: YOHIO spent much of his childhood in Japan, and because of that, his style is heavily influenced by J-rock/Visual Kei. Sweden doesn't see much of that, and so he has quite the shock value there. Ever since he performed in the first semifinal, he's been the favorite to win the contest, although Ralf has caught up as of late. In any case, he's likely to be popular with the younger voting demographic, as opposed to Ralf, who will likely carry the older vote. It should be a close race between the two, and although YOHIO will likely win the televote, Ralf may be boosted by the juries.

My Opinion: I like it quite well. I would be happy if it won, and I like the song better than Ralf's, but I don't think it would be as strong a representative for Sweden.

Prediction: 2nd.

Togtdyalttai
03-07-2013, 08:18 AM
UNITED KINGDOM - Bonnie Tyler - Believe in Me

http://makegif.com/gbIE.gif

The United Kingdom selected another aging artist, but this time they chose one that's still somewhat popular. Bonnie Tyler's country ballad is likely to bring the UK a much better result than Engelbert's second last, but I don't think she'll be able to win the whole contest.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HALTU11QE6g#!

Togtdyalttai
03-07-2013, 07:51 PM
ISRAEL - Moran Mazor - Rak Bishvilo

http://makegif.com/gbJ6.gif

Israel selected a power ballad from a singer who was able to make the most of it. Although I don't see this as a winner, it should be able to bring Israel its best result since they were in the top 10 in 2008.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1LnuAyo03k

dryrunguy
03-08-2013, 11:50 AM
ISRAEL - Moran Mazor - Rak Bishvilo

http://makegif.com/gbJ6.gif

Israel selected a power ballad from a singer who was able to make the most of it. Although I don't see this as a winner, it should be able to bring Israel its best result since they were in the top 10 in 2008.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1LnuAyo03k

I actually like this song a good bit, though there are moments where it seems a hair disorganized and wandering. But I always forgive that because I'm such a sucker for power ballads (e.g., Iceland a few years back, Spain's entry last year).

Togtdyalttai
03-09-2013, 01:07 PM
SWEDEN - Robin Stjernberg - You

http://makegif.com/gbKQ.gif

Right, well, I did say this final was unpredictable, but I didn't realize quite how unpredictable. Robin Stjernberg today became the first winner of Melodifestivalen to come through Andra Chansen (aka second chance). He won the jury vote, and came second to YOHIO in the televote. I doubt that Sweden picked the representative that will get them the best score in Malmö.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJyvF02LNNA

Togtdyalttai
03-09-2013, 01:53 PM
ROMANIA - Cezar - It's My Life

http://makegif.com/gbKS.gif

Like falsettos? Then this is the song for you! Romania chose a male opera song over Luminita Anghel, their 2005 participant, and an upbeat song somewhat similar to Greece's but sung by a female.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWTpnQtY8qQ

Togtdyalttai
03-11-2013, 10:46 AM
THE NETHERLANDS - Anouk - Birds

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The Netherlands internally selected Anouk, who is an extremely popular singer in the Low Countries. Her song was wildly anticipated there and hailed as the song that will get the Netherlands to the final of Eurovision for the first time since 2004. It's a ballad that is quite unique among Eurovision songs. It will surely stand out, but that's not necessarily a good thing.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04l_bmp3y4Q

Togtdyalttai
03-11-2013, 07:29 PM
BULGARIA - Elitsa Todorova & Stoyan Yankulov - Samo Shampioni

http://makegif.com/gbEI.gif

Bulgaria changed their song today to the one that was originally the favorite of their national final. It's different, but still the same genre, although this one probably has more of an upside and get them into the final.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgk5F7QvnCg

Togtdyalttai
03-11-2013, 07:30 PM
Ukraine revamped their song and published the new video today:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBBzyg_m4Qs

Togtdyalttai
03-12-2013, 07:02 PM
More revamps! Here's Belgium's:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQkyrUfJyUw

Togtdyalttai
03-12-2013, 07:03 PM
And Albania's:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pf-ZCI-UuA

Togtdyalttai
03-13-2013, 10:20 AM
FRANCE - Amandine Bourgeois - L'enfer et moi

http://makegif.com/gbPs.gif

France internally selected Amandine Bourgeois, yet another high-class singer whose style doesn't really fit at Eurovision. The song's title translates to "Hell and me", which makes it sound quite interesting, but I don't think it is interesting in the right way for Eurovision.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfwa2A_aV5U

Togtdyalttai
03-14-2013, 08:18 AM
Switzerland's entry had to change their name, as it's not allowed to promote any organization in Eurovision, in this case the Salvation Army. Their new name is Takasa, and here's their new video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKU1gV5vp98

Togtdyalttai
03-14-2013, 12:11 PM
AZERBAIJAN - Farid Mamedov - Hold Me

http://makegif.com/gbQZ.gif

Azerbaijan had a national selection which lasted almost 4 months. In the end, there were 10 songs in the final, and a guy who sounds like Dima Bilan was selected with a ballad, as is the customary style for Azerbaijan.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSYwQ4BPzIc

Togtdyalttai
03-14-2013, 01:03 PM
MONTENEGRO - Who See feat. Nina Žižić - Igranka

http://makegif.com/gbR7.gif

Montenegro internally selected a hip-hop band who will sing a dubstep song in Malmö. These types of songs don't tend to do well at Eurovision.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmHI_57vJk

suliso
03-14-2013, 02:50 PM
THE NETHERLANDS - Anouk - Birds

http://makegif.com/gbNg.gif

The Netherlands internally selected Anouk, who is an extremely popular singer in the Low Countries. Her song was wildly anticipated there and hailed as the song that will get the Netherlands to the final of Eurovision for the first time since 2004. It's a ballad that is quite unique among Eurovision songs. It will surely stand out, but that's not necessarily a good thing.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04l_bmp3y4Q

I would definitely vote for this one.

Some brownie points also for France, Austria, Denmark and Estonia. Lot of bland songs this time around, but not quite as many downright awful ones as in some other years.

Togtdyalttai
03-14-2013, 03:19 PM
New video from Spain:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQCvukXs35Y

suliso
03-14-2013, 03:52 PM
AUSTRIA - Natália Kelly - Shine

http://makegif.com/gbqm.gif

Austria had a small 5-song national final in which the artists each sung a song that won a past Eurovision contest, then followed with their entries. They selected a ballad that is highly reminiscent of their 2011 entry, but which I think will likely do better than that one did.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEaouK7w0Y0

This song is quite good as well. Interesting background of the singer (looked it up on Wikipedia of course:) ) - she is only 18 years old and was born in Hartford, Connecticut to American father and Brazilian mother. The family moved to Austria when she was 6 years old.

Togtdyalttai
03-14-2013, 04:36 PM
This song is quite good as well. Interesting background of the singer (looked it up on Wikipedia of course:) ) - she is only 18 years old and was born in Hartford, Connecticut to American father and Brazilian mother. The family moved to Austria when she was 6 years old.

:yes: She's originally from the US, Hannah Mancini (Slovenia) was born and raised in the US, and there was also an American who finished in the top 4 of the Hungarian national final.

Togtdyalttai
03-15-2013, 11:59 AM
Video from Iceland:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr81gYygv8I

Togtdyalttai
03-15-2013, 01:05 PM
SAN MARINO - Valentina Monetta - Crisalide

http://makegif.com/gbS0.gif

San Marino internally selected the same artist that represented them last year. This year, however, her song is less of a joke. It's a ballad in Italian which at the end increases tempo. It has a good chance to bring San Marino its best result, but that doesn't mean they'll qualify.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi8mZ2ejLcE

Togtdyalttai
03-15-2013, 01:19 PM
MACEDONIA - Lozano & Esma - Pred da se razdeni

http://makegif.com/gbBi.gif

Macedonia scrapped Imperija and replaced it with a song that's half ballad, half dubstep.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m71hJUj76jM

Togtdyalttai
03-15-2013, 03:40 PM
Video from Malta:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsL5MU5bRWw#!

Togtdyalttai
03-16-2013, 02:04 PM
MOLDOVA - Aliona Moon - A Million

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Moldova held the last national final of the year and selected a ballad composed by their entrant last year, Pasha Parfeny. The first semi is absolutely filled with female ballads, so it'll be interesting to see which of them go through.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tg1ouJNIfE

dryrunguy
03-16-2013, 03:27 PM
Well, I'm completely lost. (And Macedonia and San Marino are marked private, but I'm not optimistic that either will save Eurovision 2013 for me.)

suliso
03-16-2013, 05:08 PM
Well, I'm completely lost. (And Macedonia and San Marino are marked private, but I'm not optimistic that either will save Eurovision 2013 for me.)

You don't like any of them? Lot of junk as usual, but I think there are few really good songs as well. As I've already mentioned upthread Netherlands is my choice. :)

dryrunguy
03-16-2013, 06:10 PM
You don't like any of them? Lot of junk as usual, but I think there are few really good songs as well. As I've already mentioned upthread Netherlands is my choice. :)

I don't know. Nothing gets me excited. I like Austria. UK is okay. Israel was okay. Azerbaijan was okay. Albania is always interesting. I couldn't finish the Netherlands' song. :confused:

Togtdyalttai
03-16-2013, 06:10 PM
Well, I'm completely lost. (And Macedonia and San Marino are marked private, but I'm not optimistic that either will save Eurovision 2013 for me.)

Oh, I did forget to mention there is one more country to select its song: Italy. And Macedonia and San Marino's videos should work now.

Togtdyalttai
03-16-2013, 06:10 PM
I don't know. Nothing gets me excited. I like Austria. UK is okay. Israel was okay. Azerbaijan was okay. Albania is always interesting. I couldn't finish the Netherlands' song. :confused:

Didn't you like Russia?

dryrunguy
03-16-2013, 06:18 PM
Didn't you like Russia?

I did. The San Marino song is INFINITELY better than last year's entry. I like the Sweden song as well, especially once he stopped being so pitchy.

I'll form some loyalty later. :) And of course, when I really like an entry, it tends to be a death knell for the song's chances. :)

Togtdyalttai
03-16-2013, 06:27 PM
I did. The San Marino song is INFINITELY better than last year's entry. I like the Sweden song as well, especially once he stopped being so pitchy.

I'll form some loyalty later. :) And of course, when I really like an entry, it tends to be a death knell for the song's chances. :)

Azerbaijan 2011 what?

suliso
03-16-2013, 11:39 PM
I don't know. Nothing gets me excited. I like Austria. UK is okay. Israel was okay. Azerbaijan was okay. Albania is always interesting. I couldn't finish the Netherlands' song. :confused:

I think we are having a different taste :D

It is true, however, that there is no obvious winning song among them. It will depend on politics as usuall...

Togtdyalttai
03-17-2013, 10:40 PM
Moldova's song will be performed in the original Romanian as "O Mie":


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdhTKpcdW-U

Togtdyalttai
03-18-2013, 08:54 AM
ITALY - Marco Mengoni - L'Essenziale

http://makegif.com/gbVm.gif

Italy's national final, Sanremo, was the original inspiration for Eurovision. Italy doesn't necessarily select the winner of that festival to be their entrant, but this year they did. They also chose the song that he won Sanremo with as their entry, thought they took over a month to decide that. Marco Mengoni is a hugely popular artist in Italy, and this song will likely bring Italy a very good result.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1a4UsN9mq4

Togtdyalttai
03-18-2013, 09:56 PM
I'll move on to the songs selected for Eurovision soon enough, but first I'm going to look back on the National Final season and post my 10 favorite songs that weren't selected.

10. Sweden (Melodifestivalen) - Sean Banan - Copacabanana

Ah, the joke that I found quite funny and clever. The video was posted a couple pages back, but it was removed from YouTube so I'll post it again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk5tz8YTVYw

Togtdyalttai
03-19-2013, 07:22 PM
9. Estonia (Eesti Laul) - Rosanna Lints - Follow Me

My favorite in Estonia's selection didn't even qualify to the final. Instead the televoters and juries selected songs like the one from Winny Puhh that I posted a few pages back.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTpa8K-bAnc

Togtdyalttai
03-20-2013, 07:49 PM
8. Serbia (Beosong) - Dusan Svilar - Spas

My favorite from Serbia finished second. He's a bit of a Zeljko Joksimovic copycat, but I have quite a weakness for Serbian ethno-ballads.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeZAI5zIH4

Togtdyalttai
03-20-2013, 07:53 PM
Realizing that probably no one cares about this, I'll hurry it up and start doing 2 per day.

7. Finland (UMK) - Diandra - Colliding Into You

My favorite Finnish song was the favorite to win coming into the competition, but was derailed by Finnoswede voting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4SEgE6EX0s

Togtdyalttai
03-21-2013, 08:41 PM
6. Greece (Eurosong) - Aggeliki Iliades - Hilies Kai Mia Nihtes

I do like ethnic Greek songs, and although this one was accused of being too Turkish-sounding, it fits the bill for me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZZqr2KomQM

Togtdyalttai
03-21-2013, 08:47 PM
5. Latvia (Dziesma) - Fox Lima - Tirpini

The live performance on this song left a bit to be desired, but the song was unique, haunting, and would have really stood out in Eurovision. Unfortunately, it failed to even qualify to the final of Latvia's national final.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_t-k3K2cXA

Togtdyalttai
03-22-2013, 07:13 PM
4. Switzerland (Die Grosse Entscheitdungs Show) - Carrousel - J'avais rendez-vous

I posted this one much earlier in the thread, but I still think it was a great song. It lost something in the performance, but it still stands out to me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCuWQfDAwfw

Togtdyalttai
03-22-2013, 07:16 PM
3. Iceland (Söngvakeppni Sjónvarpsins) - Erna Hrónn Olafsdóttir - Augnablik

Another one that failed to qualify to its respective final. This one probably didn't qualify because it was too much like Iceland's entry last year, but I thought this was even better than that one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49E5dUKKPo

Togtdyalttai
03-23-2013, 09:56 PM
2. Switzerland (Die Grosse Eintscheitdungs Show) - Lys Assia feat. NewJack - All In Your Head

This was the first video I posted in this thread, and I absolutely adore the song. For me, it was a fun and memorable combination of old and new. It's a shame it wasn't selected to the Swiss final so it could be performed live.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FlLaDei6c8

Togtdyalttai
03-23-2013, 09:59 PM
1. Albania (Festivali i Kënges) - Kejsi Tola - S'jemi më atje

I believe this was the masterpiece of the year. There's nothing bad I can say about it. Interestingly enough, her entry in 2009 was the first Eurovision song I was ever exposed to (and that was probably the same for quite a few of us) when Salmon posted it here. I find this one much better, and I was thoroughly disappointed that it wasn't selected.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rngCJt8S0zA

Togtdyalttai
03-24-2013, 09:42 PM
I'll start reviewing the songs that were chosen tomorrow, but today I will say that Imperija, the first song selected by Macedonia, was one of my favorites. It would have been in my top 5, and I'm very disappointed that Macedonia decided to change their song.

Togtdyalttai
03-25-2013, 06:20 PM
Tonight I'll start off my review with my bottom 5 in no particular order:

Azerbaijan: This guy is a Dima Bilan copycat, and I hate Dima Bilan himself. He can't sing either. I think this is Azerbaijan's worst entry in their 6 years of Eurovision.

Latvia: This song is a lot of things, none of them good. The dubstep part is particularly gruesome. I've been in the minority, but I've actually liked Latvia in the last 3 years. This is the end of that though.

Romania: Romania is probably my favorite Eurovision country, surely in the last 5 years. This year is awful for me though. If you're going to go opera, go with a woman who can actually sing the high notes without looking like she's going to die.

Bulgaria: I hated Elitsa and Stoyan's first entry, and this one is worse if anything. It's quite repetitive, and I still can't stand Elitsa's voice.

Norway: The beginning is what really gets me; it's a lot of ear-splitting noise. After that the song isn't awful, but I find her voice annoying and the song isn't really my cup of tea.

Togtdyalttai
03-25-2013, 06:24 PM
I'd love to hear all of your opinions on this year's songs, and please vote in the poll (http://www.talkabouttennis.com/forum/threads/21655-Eurovision-2013-Poll) when you get the chance.

Togtdyalttai
03-27-2013, 08:22 AM
The rest of my bottom 10:

Sweden: Luckily Sweden won't be winning again with this song. I already gave my opinion on it with my Melodifestivalen review, but I find the way he says "you" quite annoying, and that's a huge part of the song.

Belgium: Love kills my eardrums. His live performance of this in Belgium's National Final was awful, and he lacks charisma.

Armenia: I find this dull and forgettable, but also a bit annoying.

Ireland: The rest of the song isn't bad, but the chorus, ugh.

Georgia: Zzzzzz... I expected better from the writer of last year's winning song.

Togtdyalttai
03-28-2013, 12:32 PM
The next 5:

Cyprus: Like Georgia, extremely boring for me, and very forgettable.

United Kingdom: I'm not a fan of country, and this is no different.

Macedonia: I especially dislike Esma's parts. They don't fit her at all. Vlatko's are okay, but nothing special. Both were so much better in Imperija though.

Serbia; I find these girls annoying, and not up to Serbia's usual standards. They're one of my 2 favorite countries in Eurovision (along with one that chose an even worse song this year, Romania), but this year isn't one of my favorite entries of theirs.

France: It's a typical French Eurovision song, one that doesn't fit in the contest, and one that doesn't appeal to me either.

Togtdyalttai
03-29-2013, 02:28 PM
I think we've arrived at the middle:

Hungary: He's going to sing a verse in Swedish. That should be interesting.

Lithuania: Both Hungary and Lithuania are a bit different for Eurovision, but not in that great of a way, and not in one that impresses me.

Estonia: A bit like last year's in that a lot of people are going to find it boring (me somewhat included), but I don't think this one will be as powerful live.

Croatia: I feel like the traditional concept could have worked a lot better than it ended up doing. It's not a bad song in my opinion, but it could definitely stand out more than it does.

Switzerland: I think I mentioned something about this band considering not participating in Eurovision because they were forced to change their name. Well, I really wish they would have. There's nothing about this song that really stands out to me.

Togtdyalttai
03-30-2013, 03:17 PM
A few more before I get to songs that I actually like...

Slovenia: It's a nice uptempo song among a slew of ballads in the first semi, but it's just missing something for me.

The Netherlands: It's surely different from the Eurovision norm, and I like her voice, but the song reminds me a bit of Lana del Rey, whom I can't stand.

Malta: It's a bit like Hey, Soul Sister by Train, but it's a happy song and I sort of like it.

Italy: It's likely to be called too good for Eurovision, and it's not especially my kind of song, but it is quite powerful.

Togtdyalttai
03-31-2013, 03:04 PM
Now for the songs I like but not enough to put them in my top 10:

Moldova: The fact that it's in Romanian gives this song something a bit extra for me. Otherwise it's just a decent ballad and another good-but-not-great entry from Moldova.

Montenegro: Another song that stands out in Eurovision. It will be interesting to see a song like this performed live because there's never been a true hip-hop song at Eurovision.

Ukraine: Umm, I was staring at her the entire video? I'm not a huge fan of Disneyish ballads, but this is pretty good after the revamp.

Albania: A nice ethno-rock song that has gotten its fair share of hate. Not quite sure why...

Russia: Powerful world peace song (again, another genre I'm not too fond of but am making an exception here) that could be a winner.

Togtdyalttai
04-02-2013, 08:42 AM
Now for my top 10. I'll just do one per day now.

San Marino: This is so much better than her song last year. Italian fits it perfectly, and I even like the tempo change at the end as it fits her coming out of the chrysalis. I also would have liked it had it stayed a ballad though.

Togtdyalttai
04-03-2013, 10:33 AM
9. Spain: While I don't like this as well as Spain's entry last year, this is still a very pleasant song, and the intro is absolutely amazing for me.

Togtdyalttai
04-04-2013, 02:49 PM
8. Greece: Although I would prefer that they repeated a different phrase than Alcohol is Free, it's a fun and catchy song with some ethnic Greek elements, which I tend to like.

Togtdyalttai
04-06-2013, 08:54 AM
7. Finland: Call me crazy for liking such a crazy song, but this one's a lot of fun and it's immensely catchy. There have even been marriage advertisements in Spain to the tune of this song.

Togtdyalttai
04-06-2013, 08:49 PM
6. Iceland: Some people say it's boring, and while I get that, I find it to be special and powerful, largely because the Icelandic language really fits it.

Togtdyalttai
04-08-2013, 07:47 PM
5. Israel - It's my favorite ballad of the year, and although it is a bit typical for Eurovision, I feel like her performance really brings out the best of a song, and it's good to see a song from Israel that's completely in Hebrew for only the second time in the last decade.

Togtdyalttai
04-09-2013, 05:39 PM
4. Belarus: Yeah, it's really cheap, but it's so catchy. I've never really cared whether songs were cheap anyway. It's also one of the few dance tunes in this year's Eurovision, and I tend to go for those.

Togtdyalttai
04-10-2013, 07:20 PM
3. Austria: I know I said Israel was my favorite ballad, and I don't really consider this a ballad. I find this song quite inspirational, and I think Natália fits it quite well.

Togtdyalttai
04-11-2013, 08:07 PM
2. Germany: I've loved Cascada for a while now, and they're the first Eurovision act that I had heard of outside of the contest. I'm a sucker for dance, and this is one of their better songs. If any band can make Eurovision popular in the US, Cascada can.

Togtdyalttai
04-13-2013, 08:06 AM
1. Denmark: I loved this song ever since its studio version was revealed, and it turned out to be great live as well. The recorder dude is what really gives it something special for me, although Emmelie is good enough to stand out by herself. Once Germany's song had been selected, I had that as my favorite, but as time went on I realized that I liked this one a bit more.

Togtdyalttai
04-13-2013, 08:08 AM
Well that's the end of my favorites. I'll be going through the songs with a chance to win the contest in the next couple weeks, but in the meantime, please vote in the poll here: http://www.talkabouttennis.com/forum/threads/21655-Eurovision-2013-Poll

Togtdyalttai
04-15-2013, 08:18 PM
So before I start my list of songs I think have a chance at winning, let me say two contradicting things.

1. I generally am horrible at predicting things like this, so I very well might leave the actual winner off my list, or I might have it at the bottom of it, as I did in 2011.

2. Last year, I nailed the winner on the head. I thought strongly from the minute Euphoria was chosen that it would win, and that it wouldn't be close. That turned out to be spot on. Then again, many people felt the same as I did.

I'll also say that this year's contest is much more wide open than last year. In reality, I won't decide who I think will win until right before the contest, after the contestants have rehearsed their songs on stage.

So, without further ado, I shall start with the songs near the top of the odds that I think have no chance of winning.

Togtdyalttai
04-15-2013, 08:25 PM
SAN MARINO - Current odds: 17-70

Many people haven't even heard of San Marino. It usually does awful in televoting. No matter what song they send, they'll always struggle even to qualify. Why this is in the top 15 of many odds baffles me. On the other hand, I'd love to see it do well.

Togtdyalttai
04-16-2013, 08:03 PM
Oh, I should have mentioned that the odds I'm posting are decimal odds, and the first number is the lowest odds, the second one the highest that any website has given the song.

Togtdyalttai
04-16-2013, 08:05 PM
BELARUS - Current odds: 15-67

I adore this song, but the juries are going to absolutely massacre it.

Togtdyalttai
04-18-2013, 10:54 AM
UNITED KINGDOM - Current odds: 13-51

I know she's a pretty popular artist and all, but this song just isn't going to stand out enough to win.

Togtdyalttai
04-19-2013, 08:34 PM
AZERBAIJAN - Current odds: 18-44

He's essentially a Dima Bilan copy, and there's no way Dima would have won with juries. That said, since this is Azerbaijan it will surely finish in the top 10.

Togtdyalttai
04-20-2013, 09:06 PM
THE NETHERLANDS - Current odds: 7.5-21

The Netherlands hasn't qualified for the final since 2004, and while I think this year will change that, it's quite a jump to go from not qualifying to winning the whole shebang. This song could very well be the jury winner, but it's going to struggle to procure televotes outside of the Netherlands' general area.

Togtdyalttai
04-22-2013, 08:26 AM
GERMANY - Current odds: 19-26

As Cascada are quite popular, they're bound to score well at Eurovision, right? Well, typically acts like them don't. They'll get televotes for sure, but the juries are likely going to hate this act.

Togtdyalttai
04-23-2013, 12:41 PM
SWEDEN - Current odds: 10-20

Normally Sweden does well in the odds no matter what. Last year was a bit different, as Euphoria was special. This year they aren't a threat to win, but for some reason they're still high in the odds.

dryrunguy
04-23-2013, 01:03 PM
Tog, FYI, I'm following your observations. I just don't have any reaction as I'm not yet wild about any of the contenders. I'll get it in gear eventually. But I appreciate you keeping us informed. And I AM paying attention. :)

Togtdyalttai
04-23-2013, 06:57 PM
Tog, FYI, I'm following your observations. I just don't have any reaction as I'm not yet wild about any of the contenders. I'll get it in gear eventually. But I appreciate you keeping us informed. And I AM paying attention. :)

Thanks Dry, it's good to see that someone's reading this. Now we need to get more people to enter the contest...

Tomorrow I'll end the countries that I believe have no chance, and then I'll start with the 5 countries I think have a chance to win the contest.

Togtdyalttai
04-24-2013, 10:12 AM
GEORGIA - Current odds: 21-32

Georgia's got quite the diaspora to support it, and this song was written by Thomas G:son, but I feel that it won't stand out enough to get televotes outside of the diaspora. There are also too many good ballads this year for this one to stand out with the juries.

Togtdyalttai
04-25-2013, 05:59 PM
Now for the start of the countries that I believe have a chance to win ESC this year! I will count down from those that I think have less of a chance to the one I think will win.

Togtdyalttai
04-25-2013, 06:03 PM
RUSSIA - Current odds: 10-18

Normally I would say that a song like this would have no chance. However, this is Russia, and Russia can always count on lots of televotes coming from their neighbors. This song also is the type that will appeal to the juries. While I still think it won't win, with the right draw it could have a great chance.

Togtdyalttai
04-26-2013, 10:20 PM
NORWAY - Current odds: 7.5-10

This song is one of the most unique of the contest, and it probably has one of the largest fan followings. I have my doubts though about what voters in Eastern and Southern Europe will think of it, and I have no clue how the juries will treat it. It could win, but it's more of a wild card than anything.

Togtdyalttai
04-27-2013, 04:04 PM
ITALY - Current odds: 17-26

This is my pick to win the jury vote, and even if it doesn't win, it sill surely be in the top 5 there. The main question in determining whether this song will ultimately do well is how many televoters it can attract. As Marco Mengoni is quite a popular singer, I expect it do do fairly well in that regard, but I don't know about whether it will be good enough to win.

Togtdyalttai
04-27-2013, 10:05 PM
I don't know if I mentioned this already, but if anyone would like MP3s of any of the songs, tell me and I'll either send them to you if I have them (I have my top 10 as well as quite a few national final songs) or give you a link to download them if I don't.

Togtdyalttai
04-29-2013, 08:12 AM
DENMARK - Current Odds: 1.9-2.88

Denmark is the favorite to win, and my favorite as well, but somehow I just have a bad feeling about its chances. I could definitely see it winning, but I think its odds are way too short for a song that doesn't stand out nearly as much as Euphoria did last year. That said, it's a top 5 lock, and I don't know that I would say that about any other song this year.

Togtdyalttai
04-30-2013, 09:46 AM
UKRAINE - Current Odds: 5.5-8

I personally don't find anything special in this song, but it really sounds like a winner to me. I also think that Ukraine will come up with a great staging for the song, as they usually tend to do. On the other hand, I could also see it finishing outside of the top 10 if something goes wrong, or the performance isn't as great as I think it will be.

Togtdyalttai
04-30-2013, 09:50 AM
Rehearsals for Eurovision will start in less than a week, so I guess my timing was pretty decent. In the meantime, I'll post any news that comes up, and I also want to say something about a new scoring rule this year.

dryrunguy
04-30-2013, 10:08 AM
Rehearsals for Eurovision will start in less than a week, so I guess my timing was pretty decent. In the meantime, I'll post any news that comes up, and I also want to say something about a new scoring rule this year.

Tog, just wanted to thank you for the time you've put into this. Very much appreciated. :)

Togtdyalttai
04-30-2013, 12:54 PM
Tog, just wanted to thank you for the time you've put into this. Very much appreciated. :)

Glad you appreciate it. Have to say I've kind of become addicted to Eurovision, so I'd probably spend the time on it anyway though. :lipsrsealed:

suliso
04-30-2013, 01:09 PM
Glad you appreciate it. Have to say I've kind of become addicted to Eurovision, so I'd probably spend the time on it anyway though. :lipsrsealed:

Will there be some way for you to watch it live in USA?

dryrunguy
04-30-2013, 01:10 PM
Glad you appreciate it. Have to say I've kind of become addicted to Eurovision, so I'd probably spend the time on it anyway though. :lipsrsealed:

Is there a single internet repository where all of the songs are located? I haven't checked Eurovision recently and am feeling lazy and emboldened to ask you to do my research for me. :)

dryrunguy
04-30-2013, 01:11 PM
Will there be some way for you to watch it live in USA?

I've watched it online the past 2 or 3 years. They livestream from the Eurovision site.

Togtdyalttai
04-30-2013, 07:37 PM
Is there a single internet repository where all of the songs are located? I haven't checked Eurovision recently and am feeling lazy and emboldened to ask you to do my research for me. :)

Well, I suppose you mean the videos of the songs? They're all on the eurovision.tv YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/eurovision) or on their website. If you want them all in one forum thread (just the videos, nothing else), here's a link: http://www.escforum.net/forum/showthread.php?22971-ESC-2013-The-Selected-Songs-Videos-amp-Results. I think you have to register on that website to see it though.

Togtdyalttai
04-30-2013, 07:38 PM
Will there be some way for you to watch it live in USA?

As dry said, I'll watch on Eurovision.tv. I watched quite a few national finals on there as well this year. :D

I plan to commandeer a classroom to watch the final on a huge projector. No one should be there on a Saturday morning. :p

dryrunguy
04-30-2013, 07:43 PM
Well, I suppose you mean the videos of the songs? They're all on the eurovision.tv YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/eurovision) or on their website. If you want them all in one forum thread (just the videos, nothing else), here's a link: http://www.escforum.net/forum/showthread.php?22971-ESC-2013-The-Selected-Songs-Videos-amp-Results. I think you have to register on that website to see it though.

Thanks, Tog!

dryrunguy
05-01-2013, 02:26 PM
Okay, Tog. I can only figure that I somehow completely missed Denmark. I actually like that song A LOT and think it's perfect for Eurovision. Russia would be my second favorite. I am now officially excited about this year's Eurovision. :)

Togtdyalttai
05-01-2013, 05:58 PM
Okay, Tog. I can only figure that I somehow completely missed Denmark. I actually like that song A LOT and think it's perfect for Eurovision. Russia would be my second favorite. I am now officially excited about this year's Eurovision. :)

Good, good. More must be lured into this trap. :evil:

It's rare that the fan favorite is my favorite, but that's the case this year, and it's good to see that's the case for you as well.

I should mention someone else's favorite songs. I forced my mom, gracie, to listen to all of the songs, and her favorite is Iceland, followed by Malta.

dryrunguy
05-01-2013, 06:06 PM
Good, good. More must be lured into this trap. :evil:

It's rare that the fan favorite is my favorite, but that's the case this year, and it's good to see that's the case for you as well.

I should mention someone else's favorite songs. I forced my mom, gracie, to listen to all of the songs, and her favorite is Iceland, followed by Malta.

I have those at #18 and #20 in my current rankings, respectively. But they're both decent songs that could finish much higher. I may change my mind once I watch them all again.

Ukraine will be in the mix, I'm betting. Germany, Belarus, Austria and Italy are all good songs. Italy's entry reminds me a bit of a Spanish entry from last year. I think you pegged it as, perhaps, "too good for Eurovision." Spot on.

I also really, like the French entry. I just don't see it doing well in Eurovision. But I really like the song.

Togtdyalttai
05-01-2013, 07:06 PM
I have those at #18 and #20 in my current rankings, respectively. But they're both decent songs that could finish much higher. I may change my mind once I watch them all again.

Ukraine will be in the mix, I'm betting. Germany, Belarus, Austria and Italy are all good songs. Italy's entry reminds me a bit of a Spanish entry from last year. I think you pegged it as, perhaps, "too good for Eurovision." Spot on.

I also really, like the French entry. I just don't see it doing well in Eurovision. But I really like the song.

Did I say Spain's entry last year was too good for Eurovision? I think the main reason it didn't do better than it did is because Spain's geopolitical position is awful. I think they're likely the favorite to finish last this year, and their song is pretty good. Interesting that Italy 2013 reminds you of Spain 2012. Many have compared Georgia 2013 to Spain 2012 (having the same composer doesn't hurt), but I don't think I've heard Italy. For some reason, I never got the "too good for Eurovision" vibe about Italy this year. France's entry however, is surely in that category. It's bound to be in the bottom 10 in the final unless the juries really lift it up.

dryrunguy
05-01-2013, 07:14 PM
Did I say Spain's entry last year was too good for Eurovision? I think the main reason it didn't do better than it did is because Spain's geopolitical position is awful. I think they're likely the favorite to finish last this year, and their song is pretty good. Interesting that Italy 2013 reminds you of Spain 2012. Many have compared Georgia 2013 to Spain 2012 (having the same composer doesn't hurt), but I don't think I've heard Italy. For some reason, I never got the "too good for Eurovision" vibe about Italy this year. France's entry however, is surely in that category. It's bound to be in the bottom 10 in the final unless the juries really lift it up.

I may have mixed up posts. I thought you said that about Italy's entry this year. It may have been France.

Togtdyalttai
05-01-2013, 08:57 PM
I may have mixed up posts. I thought you said that about Italy's entry this year. It may have been France.

I looked back a few pages, and apparently I did say that, or rather I said it was likely to be called too good for Eurovision. I don't know that I feel that myself though...

dryrunguy
05-01-2013, 09:57 PM
I looked back a few pages, and apparently I did say that, or rather I said it was likely to be called too good for Eurovision. I don't know that I feel that myself though...

So you changed your views. You should run for a government job!!!

Togtdyalttai
05-06-2013, 08:50 AM
Ukraine's performance will feature a guy named Igor, seen below...

http://cs307308.vk.me/v307308509/99b7/zMl_R3nUUpg.jpg

Togtdyalttai
05-06-2013, 08:56 AM
The first rehearsals have begun as well. You can see them on Eurovision.tv.

Togtdyalttai
05-09-2013, 09:19 PM
At this point all countries in both semifinals have had their first rehearsals, and second rehearsals will start tomorrow. Only 5 days until the first semi starts!

Togtdyalttai
05-11-2013, 12:01 PM
Second rehearsals for countries in a semi are over. I would say that the country that whose chances to win the contest have risen most drastically is Azerbaijan, who have an interesting and unique performance, and that Ukraine's chances have fallen greatly, mostly due to the giant. His leading Zlata into the arena detracts from the rest of the performance.

Togtdyalttai
05-11-2013, 12:02 PM
Tomorrow the Big 5 countries and Sweden will have their first rehearsals, and depending on Italy's performance, I think either Denmark or Italy will win the contest.

Togtdyalttai
05-13-2013, 05:45 PM
The first semifinal is tomorrow at 3 EST! :yahoo:

Because of that, I should explain the rule change that I keep putting off: Before this year, countries would combine their jury votes and televotes by having taking the top 10 from both and putting them together. This year, they'll use the entire rankings when combining points. Here's an example:

Suppose Belgium's votes looked like this:

Jury:
1. Denmark (12)
2. The Netherlands (10)
3. Estonia (8)
4. Ukraine (7)
5. Russia (6)
6. Austria (5)
7. Moldova (4)
8. Lithuania (3)
9. Cyprus (2)
10. Croatia (1)
11. Montenegro
12. Ireland
13. Serbia
14. Slovenia
15. Belarus

Televote:
1. The Netherlands (12)
2. Denmark (10)
3. Ireland (8)
4. Ukraine (7)
5. Montenegro (6)
6. Austria (5)
7. Belarus (4)
8. Serbia (3)
9. Lithuania (2)
10. Moldova (1)
11. Croatia
12. Slovenia
13. Cyprus
14. Russia
15. Estonia

Then with the old system, 12-1 points would be assigned to the top 10s of both jury and televote as I labeled above, so the total points would be
12: The Netherlands (Total: 22 - televote breaks a tie)
10: Denmark (Total: 22)
8: Ukraine (Total: 14)
7: Austria (Total: 10)
6: Ireland (Total: 8)
5: Estonia (Total: 8)
4: Montenegro (Total: 6)
3: Russia (Total: 6)
2: Lithuania (Total: 5)
1: Moldova (Total: 5)

With the new system, the points would be like this:
12: The Netherlands (still breaking the tie with televoting)
10: Denmark
8: Ukraine
7: Austria
6: Ireland
5: Montenegro
4: Moldova
3: Lithuania
2: Estonia
1: Russia

Here it's not a huge difference, but in general it hurts the entries that do well with one of televoting or juries but not the other. It will be more important in the final when there are more entries to rank.

dryrunguy
05-14-2013, 01:29 PM
Well, Tog, I would rank the first semifinal as follows:

1. Denmark
2 TIE. Russia (Love the message of this song, but don't like the actual construction of the song as well as Ukraine's)
2 TIE. Ukraine (I wasn't bothered by the giant, and she outperformed vocally, much better than I expected)
4. Netherlands (This song's stock went way up in my book)
5. Ireland (I may be wrong about this one)
6. Estonia
7. Belarus
8. Austria (This one really took a tumble on my list of songs I like)
9. Belgium (I may well be wrong about this one)
10. Moldova

11. Serbia
12. Croatia (this one might still get to the final because it is so radically different)
13. Slovenia
14. Cyprus
15. Montenegro
16. Lithuania (it was hard to be worse than the Montenegro entry... what an accomplishment!)

BTW, the order probably made both Montenegro and Lithuania look worse than they really are. They immediately followed Denmark, Russia, Ukraine, and The Netherlands.

suliso
05-14-2013, 01:47 PM
Well, Tog, I would rank the first semifinal as follows:

1. Denmark
2 TIE. Russia (Love the message of this song, but don't like the actual construction of the song as well as Ukraine's)
2 TIE. Ukraine (I wasn't bothered by the giant, and she outperformed vocally, much better than I expected)
4. Netherlands (This song's stock went way up in my book)
5. Ireland (I may be wrong about this one)
6. Estonia
7. Belarus
8. Austria (This one really took a tumble on my list of songs I like)
9. Belgium (I may well be wrong about this one)
10. Moldova

11. Serbia
12. Croatia (this one might still get to the final because it is so radically different)
13. Slovenia
14. Cyprus
15. Montenegro
16. Lithuania (it was hard to be worse than the Montenegro entry... what an accomplishment!)

BTW, the order probably made both Montenegro and Lithuania look worse than they really are. They immediately followed Denmark, Russia, Ukraine, and The Netherlands.

The best song of this semifinal, possibly overall ;)

dryrunguy
05-14-2013, 01:57 PM
The best song of this semifinal, possibly overall ;)

It's really growing on me, Suliso. Fast.

Boy oh boy, was I ever wrong about Lithuania. I put it dead last and it made the top 10! But I'm getting better at this overall because the only one I picked for the top 10 that didn't make it was Austria. I really didn't care for the live performance at all.

dryrunguy
05-14-2013, 02:06 PM
So the 10 finalists from the first semifinal are (listed in the order in which they performed):

Estonia
Denmark
Russia
Ukraine
The Netherlands
Lithuania
Belarus
Moldova
Ireland
Belgium

Those NOT advancing are:

Austria
Slovenia
Croatia
Montenegro
Cyprus
Serbia

suliso
05-14-2013, 02:14 PM
A bit surprised about Austria. I didn't see the live version, but the studio version was pretty good. Not contest winning good, but mid range at worst.

suliso
05-14-2013, 02:16 PM
Also a bit surprised, but for different reasons, about the complete fiasco of the "Balkan mafia". It must have something to do with larger influence of juries.

dryrunguy
05-14-2013, 02:17 PM
A bit surprised about Austria. I didn't see the live version, but the studio version was pretty good. Not contest winning good, but mid range at worst.

The fact that they performed first may not have helped. It just wasn't memorable at all. But I still thought it was better than Belgium, Moldova, and Lithuania. Once you got past the easy top four in the group, it was a bit of a crap shoot.

Togtdyalttai
05-14-2013, 09:07 PM
So sad about Austria, but it looks more and more obvious to me that Denmark will win, which makes me happy.

dryrunguy
05-14-2013, 09:51 PM
So sad about Austria, but it looks more and more obvious to me that Denmark will win, which makes me happy.

Of course I'll watch the second semifinal tomorrow to be sure, but I can't see anything challenging the top three or four... Perhaps Georgia, Azerbaijan, or Norway. The semifinal allocations were grossly inequitable.

But it'll be very interesting to see what the Big Five/Sweden have to say about the final mix. Italy, Germany, and Sweden will likely be in the mix.

Togtdyalttai
05-14-2013, 10:47 PM
Of course I'll watch the second semifinal tomorrow to be sure, but I can't see anything challenging the top three or four... Perhaps Georgia, Azerbaijan, or Norway. The semifinal allocations were grossly inequitable.

But it'll be very interesting to see what the Big Five/Sweden have to say about the final mix. Italy, Germany, and Sweden will likely be in the mix.

At this point I think that Denmark will be the only song from the first semi in the top 4, though possibly Ukraine could get up there. Azerbaijan will definitely be in the top 5 with that staging, and like you said, Georgia and Norway could be there too. I think it just seems like the semis were unbalanced because all of the favorites in semi 1 performed one after another: Denmark - Russia - Ukraine - The Netherlands. Speaking of The Netherlands, I was quite surprised by how strong the fan reaction was toward them. They might make it into the top 10 after all.

Togtdyalttai
05-16-2013, 10:36 AM
The second semifinal will be starting in just under an hour and a half! :freekingout:

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 10:54 AM
The second semifinal will be starting in just under an hour and a half! :freekingout:

Go Georgia!

I'm so worried work is going to interrupt the show. :(

Togtdyalttai
05-16-2013, 11:01 AM
Go Georgia!

I'm so worried work is going to interrupt the show. :(

Yeah, no one better show up to my office hours today! :mad:

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 12:40 PM
There has been shockingly pitchy singing today--as if there's something not right with the sound in the hall, but that can't be it because some singers are nailing it.

There are four songs in this group that I don't know what to do with... Azerbaijan's song is more enjoyable for the production creativity than for the song itself.

I'm now thrown by the Finland entry as this is the first time I've watched it to the end. The ending alone will carry an absolutely terrible song pretty far.

As for Greece and Macedonia, I'm just completely lost, though Greece hasn't performed yet. Their rehearsals don't give me much hope, though. But it's so Eurovision in some respects.

suliso
05-16-2013, 12:48 PM
I've missed the first three songs, but the rest so far have been mediocre at best. Some downright awful... I tend not to care about the show, only about the voice and the lyrics.

suliso
05-16-2013, 12:50 PM
Israel was ok, not that it could rival the better songs from the first semi final...

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 01:26 PM
Well, this is a crap shoot.

I would say five are pretty safe:

1. Georgia
2. Azerbaijan
3. San Marino
4. Norway
5. Malta

After that, if I had to guess, I would guess

6. Iceland
7. Israel
8. Finland
9. Switzerland (this one really lost a whole heap of steam from the video version to the stage version)
10. Albania

Then the rest:

11. Macedonia (I can't handle hearing that woman sing one more time, but the guy may very well be the very best singer in the entire competition this year.)
12. Greece (But I bet it will qualify, probably instead of Switzerland or Albania.)
13. Armenia
14. Latvia
15. Hungary (but I actually like this song a good bit)
16. Bulgaria
17. Romania (which means it's a lock to qualify)

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 01:37 PM
Just going by audience reaction alone, there was a huge difference between the performances tonight and the ones from Tuesday, particularly compared to the big four from Tuesday.

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 01:40 PM
Really, the most enjoyable thing about tonight was the opening number--and not a single word was sung. But it was mega cool.

suliso
05-16-2013, 01:59 PM
Not as good this time, dry ;)

Not sure why you put San Marino among the safe ones. It wasn't all that special, but just as importantly they have no friends. Simply because 1/2 of the continent don't even know they exist :cheesy:

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 01:59 PM
Well, I'm thrilled for Hungary, not surprised about Greece, and thoroughly enraged about Romania. I feel badly for San Marino and Israel. Their songs deserved a trip.

So the 10 finalists from this group are:

Georgia
Azerbaijan
Norway
Malta
Iceland (this one got a huge reaction at the announcement, so perhaps Tog's Mom is right)
Armenia
Hungary
Finland
Greece
Romania (my head hurts, but like I said, it was a lock because I hate it so much)

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 02:06 PM
Not as good this time, dry ;)

Not sure why you put San Marino among the safe ones. It wasn't all that special, but just as importantly they have no friends. Simply because 1/2 of the continent don't even know they exist :cheesy:

Seriously. I only got 6 of the 10, 8 of the 10 if you include the two songs from this group I thoroughly despise and figured they'd get in on that reason alone! LOL!

As for San Marino, I suppose I listened too much to Tog. I blame him. :)

suliso
05-16-2013, 02:06 PM
Romania: Southern route had to go somewhere. That region has been unusually weak this year.

Togtdyalttai
05-16-2013, 04:27 PM
Not sure why you're blaming me for San Marino, Dry. They were one of the countries I pegged to flop.

In my opinion, the big surprises of this semi were Israel missing out and Hungary qualifying. I picked all of the other qualifiers correctly.

Togtdyalttai
05-16-2013, 05:42 PM
The running order for the final is to be revealed by 9 PM EST. It should be interesting to see.

By the way, the country that has gotten the same position as Romania the year before has won the last 3 contests. To illustrate that, Hotel FM performed 17th in the 2011 final, and Loreen won from 17th last year. Romania performed 14th last year.

Another little coincidence is that since the advent of the 2-semifinal system, the winner has alternated between coming from the 1st semi, 2nd semi, and qualifying automatically: Russia won from the 1st semi in 2008, Norway from the 2nd in 2009, Germany from the final in 2010, Azerbaijan from the 1st semi in 2011, and Sweden from the second semi in 2012. That means the winner is due to be an automatic qualifier.

Germany, France, and Spain have already been drawn in the first half, so if we're going by combining these two oddities, that leaves Italy and the United Kingdom as possible winners, depending on which gets drawn 14th. :D

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 06:19 PM
Not sure why you're blaming me for San Marino, Dry. They were one of the countries I pegged to flop.

In my opinion, the big surprises of this semi were Israel missing out and Hungary qualifying. I picked all of the other qualifiers correctly.

No, no, no... You posted that San Marino was poised for its best result ever!

Togtdyalttai
05-16-2013, 06:23 PM
No, no, no... You posted that San Marino was poised for its best result ever!

That may be true, but I still didn't expect them to qualify. San Marino's previous best result was 14th in the semifinal. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_marino_in_the_eurovision_song_contest

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 07:31 PM
That may be true, but I still didn't expect them to qualify. San Marino's previous best result was 14th in the semifinal. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_marino_in_the_eurovision_song_contest

It actually got one of the best reactions of the night in terms of the live audience. Suliso was right. They have no friends. :)

Togtdyalttai
05-16-2013, 07:51 PM
It actually got one of the best reactions of the night in terms of the live audience. Suliso was right. They have no friends. :)

The most vocal members of the audience are the ones in front in the standing room only. People there are members of OGAE: Organisation Générale des Amateurs de l'Eurovision, or essentially, Eurovision fans. Most European countries have an OGAE fan club, and they all vote for which songs they like the best each year. San Marino came in 2nd with them (Denmark was 1st). By the way, countries which finish 2nd in the OGAE voting tend to do quite poorly.

dryrunguy
05-16-2013, 08:08 PM
The most vocal members of the audience are the ones in front in the standing room only. People there are members of OGAE: Organisation Générale des Amateurs de l'Eurovision, or essentially, Eurovision fans. Most European countries have an OGAE fan club, and they all vote for which songs they like the best each year. San Marino came in 2nd with them (Denmark was 1st). By the way, countries which finish 2nd in the OGAE voting tend to do quite poorly.

That's curious.

Ribbons
05-16-2013, 08:53 PM
Or maybe Jurgen Melzer jinxed them?

https://twitter.com/jojomelzer/status/335131324652322816:
San Marino has to make it!!! #eurovision2013

https://twitter.com/jojomelzer/status/335137004746575873:
I am Sorry but you can't take this serious??? #eurovision2013

suliso
05-17-2013, 01:37 PM
I like numbers, so some statistics/trivia about the finalists. :cool:

Lead singer(s):

Male 14
Female 14

I counted two lead singers for Georgia and Greece, one each for the others.

Age (lead singer only):

Youngest - Roberto Bellarosa, 19 (Belgium)
Oldest - Bonnie Tyler, 61 (UK)
Average - 29

Lead singers from UK and Greece (one of them) are 20 years older than the next oldest participant (Anouk, 38)

Trivia:

- Finnish singer Krista Siegfrieds comes from Swedish speaking minority
- Raquel del Rosario Macras, the lead singer of Spanish group ESDM, was married to Formula 1 driver Fernando Alonso
- Father of Roberto Bellaroca (Belgium) is a former Italian footballer
- Gianluca Bezzina from Malta has six siblings and works professionally as a doctor
- Russian singer Dina Garipova is of Tatar descent
- Natalie Horler, the lead singer of German group Cascada, was born in Germany to British parents. Featured in 2011 German edition of Playboy
- Anouk, Netherlands has been married twice and has 4 children (possibly the only entrant with any)
- Danish entrant Emilie de Forest has a Swedish father and claims a descent from British aristocracy
- Marco Mengoni, Italy was a winner of 2010 MTV Europe Best European Act

Scotty
05-17-2013, 03:05 PM
I found the following bit on the San Francisco Chronicle's website funny. It's intended to tell people who'd never heard of ESC what Eurovision is about


Forget all that E.U. ‘we are all brothers’ nonsense, Europeans are fiercely patriotic and right now a battle royal of nationalism is brewing…in Malmö, Sweden.

But this ain’t the Euro Cup, we’re talking about the 2013 Eurovision Song Contest and it’s your chance to see some seriously entertaining musical acts duke it out for the crown. Basically, if the Super Bowl and Balki from ‘Perfect Strangers’ had a baby, it would look like Eurovision, only with less hair gel.

Personally as a Hellenic American, I’m pulling for Koza Mostra, the Greek folk/punk/Balkan/ska-ish band featuring super gangsta baglamadaki player Agathon Iakovidis to kick all the other malakas to the curb.

The competition is tough, however. The Greek’s aren’t as dreamy as Azerbaijan’s Farid Mammadov, as sequined as the Latvian boy band PeR, as hot or as blonde as Norway’s Margaret Berger — and Gor Sujyan, the lead singer of Armenia’s Dorians has them beat in the unibrow department.

Now in its 58th year, Eurovision is billed as the largest non-sporting event in the world and, like football (ahem, soccer), since the United States doesn’t legitimately compete, we’ve never actually watched it. We probably should since it’s guaranteed to be vastly more entertaining than watching a bunch of dudes chase a ball around for 90 minutes and then end in a tie.

Togtdyalttai
05-18-2013, 12:38 PM
Anyone else think Roberto Bellarosa looks a bit like David Ferrer?

suliso
05-18-2013, 12:41 PM
Estonian girl is very pretty :)

Song is not too bad either even if a bit generic. I predict top 10 despite it not being in English.

Togtdyalttai
05-18-2013, 03:34 PM
And Denmark is the winner! Congratulations to Emmelie de Forest!

dryrunguy
05-18-2013, 03:50 PM
Final standings.

http://www.eurovisionlive.com/

dryrunguy
05-18-2013, 05:17 PM
I'm a little mystified by the Georgia and Germany finishes. Anyone have any explanations?

I'm not so surprised by the Finland finish. I overestimated how folks would respond to the end of the song. It was a terrible song.

dryrunguy
05-18-2013, 05:20 PM
Here are the official results of the first semifinal. http://www.eurovision.tv/page/malmo-2013/about/shows/semi-final-1

Here are the official results of the second semifinal. http://www.eurovision.tv/page/malmo-2013/about/shows/semi-final-2 (Georgia barely qualified.)

Jay
05-18-2013, 08:48 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/309d26cb3e93dc674dccd19f8b94eb02/tumblr_mn0kd5C8eU1qboytzo1_500.jpg
Someone blogged this on Tumblr with the caption, "What Tekken game is this?"
:hyst:

Togtdyalttai
05-18-2013, 11:02 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/309d26cb3e93dc674dccd19f8b94eb02/tumblr_mn0kd5C8eU1qboytzo1_500.jpg
Someone blogged this on Tumblr with the caption, "What Tekken game is this?"
:hyst:

He was VERY close to being Sweden's representative this year.

Scotty
05-19-2013, 04:41 PM
He?

Jay
05-19-2013, 06:15 PM
He?
^

Togtdyalttai
05-19-2013, 07:41 PM
He?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yohio

Togtdyalttai
06-11-2013, 09:34 PM
I'm not going to start next year's thread until the host city has been decided, but there was an interesting tidbit of news today: Greece's national broadcaster, ERT, temporarily shut down today in order to save money. This broadcaster was one of the founding members of the European Broadcasting Union, of which a country needs to have a member of to participate in Eurovision. Apparently ERT will start up again in the fall, but it should be interesting to see whether Greece will be able to participate next year, especially after their very respectable 6th place in this year's contest.

Togtdyalttai
06-19-2013, 12:47 PM
If you can believe it, there is already one participant selected for ESC 2014: it's Valentina Monetta for the third year in a row for San Marino!

Togtdyalttai
08-07-2013, 07:49 PM
We should be finding out any day now whether Eurovision 2014 will be hosted in a decommissioned prison, a giant tent, an industrial-looking ballroom, or a giant box. :D

Togtdyalttai
08-28-2013, 10:26 AM
Still no news about the venue for Eurovision 2014. There has been another artist selected, however. Tijana Dapčević-Todevska will represent Macedonia. Here's a song she attempted to represent Serbia and Montenegro with in 2006:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4-mQFYGA4Q