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Ti-Amie
09-20-2011, 10:31 AM
Sunday evening, we learned that Netflix will soon completely split up its Instant Streaming and DVD-by-mail services. Netflix will continue to be the home for Instant Streaming and a new company called Qwikster, run by the same guys who have been running Netflix DVD rentals for a decade, will handle DVD-by-mail subscriptions. If you’re like us, you’re wondering what the heck is going on over at Netflix headquarters. While we’ll be keeping our subscription for now, maybe it’s time to look at some of the rising competition in the instant streaming and DVD-by-mail space. Below are some of our favorites.

Hulu Plus

If you haven’t heard of Hulu, then you probably haven’t watched TV online before. Hulu is the best place to find just-ran television programs from Fox, NBC, ABC, Comedy Central, MTV, and other cable networks. Some programs are free to watch on the Web, but if you want to watch from a smartphone, tablet, Xbox, or TV box, you’re going to need Hulu Plus, which costs $8 a month and includes expanded access to older episodes and seasons of some popular shows, like 30 Rock and Modern Family.

Unfortunately, Hulu is very weak in the one area where Netflix is very strong: movies. The film selection on Hulu is improving, but not at the rate we’d expect. Most of Hulu’s time and energy continues to go into obtaining rights to stream new episodes of TV shows that are currently on the air. It has a somewhat decent library of older shows, but it doesn’t have as many older TV shows as Netflix Instant Streaming. If you want to watch Cheers or Roseanne, Hulu is not your service. (Warning: Hulu does have ads.)

YouTube Movies

In an effort to beef up its Google TV and Android offerings, Google has begun renting new movie releases on YouTube. The service is usable on the Web and is now built into the Android Market, making it a highly convenient way to instantly stream new titles over the Internet. New movies typically rent for $4 and some old releases go for $2 or $3. You have 30 days to begin viewing a movie and 24 hours to finish watching it once you start. YouTube is still somewhat overlooked, but we really liked how easy and straightforward the service is compared to some others. YouTube is one of the most highly adopted services around and we expect that a YouTube app will soon hit the Xbox 360 as well, making it an attractive option for a lot of people. Best of all, we like that Google isn’t pressuring people to “buy” movies, instead only offering rentals. Purchasing a digital movie is not smart unless you’re certain that you plan to use said digital service for many many years to come. There’s no monthly fee for YouTube.

Apple TV (iTunes)

If you own an iPad, iPod, iPhone, or Mac, this may be an attractive option for you. Apple rents movies over iTunes. It also sells them, if you want to spend $15 to $20 for something you’ll only be able to use within iTunes. To make the most of your instant streaming purchases, you may want to buy an Apple TV. The Apple TV box costs $100, but it’s worth it if you have a big TV and like to watch your movies on it. Recently, however, Apple dropped $1 TV movie rentals, casting some doubt on exactly what direction its service and TV box will take. We should find out soon.

Amazon Instant Video (Prime)

Amazon’s Instant Video service costs the most up front, but is actually the cheapest of all streaming services and has the most perks. To get free Amazon Instant Video streaming, you must sign up for Amazon Prime, which costs $79 per year. Split up, that’s actually only $6.58 per month, but it does require 12 months up front and if you don’t like it, well, you’re stuck paying for an entire year. However, Amazon Prime comes with the added perk of free two-day shipping on almost anything ordered on Amazon with no minimum purchase required. Getting something in two days is pretty good, and the one-day shipping charge is only $4 per item. Amazon’s Instant streaming library is growing pretty fast. It has some high-profile shows on it that Netflix has like The Tudors, Star Trek: The Next Generation, and Cheers, but also some series that Netflix doesn’t yet have like Frasier, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and The L Word. It’s movie selection is widening as well. However, Amazon offers something Netflix doesn’t: streaming movie rentals and purchases. Like YouTube Movies and iTunes, Amazon offers movie rentals for $4. It also lets you “purchase” movies for $15 to $20. If Amazon can beef up the number of devices that support Instant Video, it could be the best Netflix competitor yet.

Blockbuster

Blockbuster has a horrible reputation from its days ruling the retail rental market in the 1990s, but times change. Dish Network recently purchased the ailing company, which has been hit hard by the rise of Netflix and Red Box in the last decade. From what we hear, in October, a new Blockbuster instant streaming service will be unveiled that may include Starz, which will be leaving Netflix as of February 28, 2012. Starz provides most of Netflix’s access to new movie releases and comprises as much as 8 percent of the Netflix Instant Streaming library. Currently, Blockbuster also offers movie and TV show rentals and purchases as well. It’s pricing is largely consistent with YouTube, Amazon, and others: About $4 to rent and about $15 to $20 to purchase. Blockbuster is available on Android and iOS devices as well. We hope it will come to more devices and game consoles in the future.

But wait, there’s more. For those of you pondering leaving the newly formed Qwikster in the dust, Blockbuster offers one of the only comparable DVD-by-mail services: Blockbuster Total Access. The service costs $10 per month and includes Blu-ray movies and video games. Netflix has a base price of $8 per month for one DVD rental at a time (same as Blockbuster), but adding Blu-ray and video games means two more upgrades to your service, making it more than Blockbuster. The fact that there are still some actual Blockbuster rental stores and kiosks (like Redbox) here and there makes it all the more convenient, assuming you’re near a retail location.

There’s more…

While we just covered some of the big names, there are plenty more services to check out.

CinemaNow – Streaming movie rental ($4) and purchase ($16 to $20) service by Best BuyVudu – Streaming movie rental ($4) and purchase ($15 to $20) service by WalmartRedbox – Movie & Game kiosksGreenCine – DVD-by-mail, but for indie, anime, artsy, and foreign filmsOnLive – Video game instant streaming service with unlimited $10-per-month plan or purchasesGameFly – Monthly video-game-by-mail service starting at $8 per monthXbox 360 – Has Zune movie rentals and purchases as well as ESPN3 sports accessPS3 – Streaming movie rentals and purchases through PlayStation NetworkYour local library – You’d be surprised how many DVDs you can rent from your local library for free.

Are there any viable services we missed? If so, let us know in the comments below.
[Top image courtesy of Angela Waye/Shutterstock]

http://news.yahoo.com/change-channel-5-netflix-qwikster-alternatives-005406799.html

Kirkus
09-20-2011, 11:14 AM
I canceled our Netflix DVD-by-mail service this month. And we're thinking about canceling our streaming service also. Mary's been an Amazon Prime member for years, and our Blu-Ray player supports it, so we can already stream Amazon's content.

I really think Netflix hurt themselves in a bad way.

Kirkus
09-20-2011, 11:21 AM
However, after typing out that last post, I discovered that Amazon doesn't have an iPad app. Netflix does (and it works really well). So we won't be canceling Netflix streaming. At least not until Amazon has an iPad app. :(

Ti-Amie
09-20-2011, 11:23 AM
I've been using Amazon Prime and Netflix streaming. I stopped the DVD's.

James7
09-20-2011, 11:58 AM
I've been using Netflix and Hulu Plus streaming supplemented by over-the-air local stations.

I'm curious about the Amazon streaming, though. How is it for those who have it? Does the prime membership give you access to a "free" library, or is it all micro-transactions/rentals on a per-title basis?

Ti-Amie
09-20-2011, 12:05 PM
I've been using Netflix and Hulu Plus streaming supplemented by over-the-air local stations.

I'm curious about the Amazon streaming, though. How is it for those who have it? Does the prime membership give you access to a "free" library, or is it all micro-transactions/rentals on a per-title basis?

Knock on wood so far it's great. The only issue has been some very short lived buffering.

If you have Amazon Prime you do have access to a 'free" library. I'm watching Inspector Lynley S1 for free right now but I bought S1 of "Carnivale" and S3 of "Damages". I plan to buy S4 of "Damages" when it's available.

There is also a rental option with Amazon.

I have Hulu+ but I rarely use it since it never has the shows I want to see.

Miles
09-20-2011, 12:05 PM
I've been using Netflix and Hulu Plus streaming supplemented by over-the-air local stations.

I'm curious about the Amazon streaming, though. How is it for those who have it? Does the prime membership give you access to a "free" library, or is it all micro-transactions/rentals on a per-title basis?

From above:

Amazon Instant Video (Prime)

Amazon’s Instant Video service costs the most up front, but is actually the cheapest of all streaming services and has the most perks. To get free Amazon Instant Video streaming, you must sign up for Amazon Prime, which costs $79 per year. Split up, that’s actually only $6.58 per month, but it does require 12 months up front and if you don’t like it, well, you’re stuck paying for an entire year. However, Amazon Prime comes with the added perk of free two-day shipping on almost anything ordered on Amazon with no minimum purchase required. Getting something in two days is pretty good, and the one-day shipping charge is only $4 per item. Amazon’s Instant streaming library is growing pretty fast. It has some high-profile shows on it that Netflix has like The Tudors, Star Trek: The Next Generation, and Cheers, but also some series that Netflix doesn’t yet have like Frasier, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and The L Word. It’s movie selection is widening as well. However, Amazon offers something Netflix doesn’t: streaming movie rentals and purchases. Like YouTube Movies and iTunes, Amazon offers movie rentals for $4. It also lets you “purchase” movies for $15 to $20. If Amazon can beef up the number of devices that support Instant Video, it could be the best Netflix competitor yet.

James7
09-20-2011, 12:14 PM
From above:

Amazon Instant Video (Prime)



Yeah, but it said nothing to address my question of whether there was any actual "free" content as the summary only cited additional fee-based rentals and such. ;)

Thanks, Ti.

Miles
09-20-2011, 12:20 PM
Yeah, but it said nothing to address my question of whether there was any actual "free" content as the summary only cited additional fee-based rentals and such. ;)

What??? Maybe the writer needed to be more clear but given the description, it was obvious to me that Prime comes with a library of free content.

Miles
09-20-2011, 12:33 PM
If Netflix succeeds in destroying its brand, and it is doing a very good job of it at the moment, its failures will be taught in business schools for years and years to come.

Most corporations are quick to pull a mea culpa pretty fast when faced with such a negative reaction from its customers, but Netflix seems hell bent on worsening its own problems.

BTW, we still need more TV threads.

James7
09-20-2011, 06:16 PM
What??? Maybe the writer needed to be more clear but given the description, it was obvious to me that Prime comes with a library of free content.

I take nothing for granted.

The way I tend to read things is that implied free is often not the case. But maybe I have seen too much marketing geared toward taking advantage of people's natural tendency to draw conclusions by failing to explicitly state otherwise.

Kirkus
09-20-2011, 06:27 PM
I was skeptical also about the Amazon Prime free streaming.

We watched one 1/2 hour episode of something then waited a week to see if it appeared anywhere on Mary's account as a charge. LOL.

It never did.

Kirkus
09-20-2011, 06:29 PM
I canceled our Netflix DVD-by-mail service this month. And we're thinking about canceling our streaming service also. Mary's been an Amazon Prime member for years, and our Blu-Ray player supports it, so we can already stream Amazon's content.

I really think Netflix hurt themselves in a bad way.
And I totally forgot to clear our queue. A new movie will arrive in the mail tomorrow. :wall:

Hopefully I can get it back to them (and empty the queue) before my rebilling occurs.

:freekingout:

Ti-Amie
09-21-2011, 10:07 AM
Excerpts from a very detailed article.


Bottom line : between September 2006 and May 2011, NBC launched 30 dramas : 23 were cancelled after a single season, 3 had two seasons (Lipstick Jungle, Life, and Harry's Law which is still in production) and only 4 have had more than two seasons (FNL, Parenthood, Heroes and Chuck). And none of them is exactly a hit. Southland also has 3 seasons (and the fourth is premiering in January) but unlike for FNL, here NBC has nothing to do with it. That's equivalent to the figures of September 2002 to May 2007 : 75.80-76.70% of shows cancelled in their first (and only) season, 9-10% dying in their second year and 13.50-15.15% having more than 2 seasons.

Meanwhile, throughout these years of chaos, the peacock lost all its major dramas :

- L&O : Criminal Intent (6 seasons - picked up by USA Network) and Crossing Jordan (6 seasons) in 2007.
- Las Vegas (5 seasons) in 2008.
- Medium (5 seasons - picked up by CBS) and ER (15 seasons) in 2009.
- Law & Order (20 seasons) and Heroes (4 seasons) in 2010.
- Friday Night Lights (5 seasons) in 2011.
- Chuck (5 seasons) in 2012.

Sure, they still have Law & Order : SVU, which will be entering its 13th season tomorrow (it will have a tough time against CSI and without Chris Meloni), but if it weren't for this procedural, in March 2012, the oldest drama on NBC would be Parenthood (on the air since March 2010) since the 91st and final episode of Chuck will air in February.

(...)

That's how bad things are on NBC, they almost have to start from scratch every year, regarding dramas. Fortunately, their (outstanding) Thursday comedy lineup is alright : Community, Parks and Recreation, The Office and 30 Rock. All these 4 terrific sitcoms return this season, and with 30 Rock next January, it will be the same lineup for 3 years now, and stability s a good thing. NBC executives have proven they have faith in their struggling comedies (pretty much all of them except The Office). Sure, they're struggling in the live ratings but they're TiVO'ed a lot and they get huge praise by the critics, and that's what might save them (aside from fairly decent ratings on the 18-49 demo compared to most NBC dramas) — NBC almost has to work like a cable channel now.

Taken from: SpoilerTV http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/09/nbc-story-of-downfall-year-of.html#ixzz1Ybjqnprm

mmmm8
09-21-2011, 10:46 AM
Las Vegas ran for 5 seasons? I don't think I know even one tiny little thing about that show

shtexas
09-21-2011, 11:12 AM
Las Vegas ran for 5 seasons? I don't think I know even one tiny little thing about that show

I always thought of that show as Baywatch in a casino.

mmmm8
09-21-2011, 11:15 AM
I always thought of that show as Baywatch in a casino.

wait? Is that the one with James Caan and Josh Duhamel? I totally thought that show got canceled in its first season

Miles
09-21-2011, 11:31 AM
wait? Is that the one with James Caan and Josh Duhamel? I totally thought that show got canceled in its first season

It is and FWIW, it had one of the most amazing sets (the huge, multi-level casino floor) ever built for a TV show. But yeah, the show was crap.

Ti-Amie
09-21-2011, 02:24 PM
Not sure how many watched the British Series "My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding" but I'm very interested in this.

http://sitelife.nationalgeographic.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/12/0/7ca658e5-7b22-4284-80ab-dee98d4a6181.Large.jpg

National Geographic Channel is excited to announce we have greenlit a brand new series called 'American Gypsies' from Stick Figure Productions.

Meet the Johns family, one of Manhattan's most prominent Gypsy families, who are struggling to preserve their age-old customs amid the vices and virtues of the city. Witness the inner workings of the Gypsy community — from secret elder assemblies to arranged marriages and weddings, from vicious family feuds to successful palm-reading and fortune-telling shops.


Read more: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/community/blogs/ngc/_taking-lethal-action#ixzz1YcmSchTR

omess
09-22-2011, 08:26 AM
TV Rating Wednesday


Fox won the night with adults 18-49, but The X Factor's 4.2 adults 18-49 rating and 12.14 million viewers was nowhere close to Idol and well short of Modern Family's 6.0 adults 18-49 rating and 14.3 million viewers.

ABC's Revenge got off to a nice start, winning the 10pm hour with a 3.4 adults 18-49 rating and and 10.15 million viewers. That bettered Ted Danson's debut on CSI's 3.1 adults 18-49 rating, but CSI won the hour in total viewers with 12.59 million. The Stabler-less Law & Order: SVU was last at 10pm with a 2.3 adults 18-49 and 7.6 million viewers.


http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/09/22/tv-ratings-wednesday-x-factor-no-idol-modern-family-premieres-big-revenge-gets-nice-start-csi-svu/104503/

shtexas
09-22-2011, 08:44 AM
Modern Family. Whoa!

X-Factor is down near where The Voice started. Not bad, and it should grow a little. But, it may never be close to Idol.

omess
09-22-2011, 09:26 AM
Modern Family. Whoa!

X-Factor is down near where The Voice started. Not bad, and it should grow a little. But, it may never be close to Idol.
Yeah it will be intersting to see how it does in the coming weeks

Martini4me
09-22-2011, 10:26 AM
Lifetime has canceled Roseanne Barr's Roseanne's Nuts. Hardly a surprise given the anemic ratings, which started OK with a 0.7 adults 18-49 rating before dwindling down to a 0.3 adults 18-49 rating. The writing was already on the wall by the time it was banished to Friday nights. Roseanne broke the news herself on Twitter Wednesday afternoon with a tweet (pictured above), and then followed up with another tweet (pictured below).

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/09/21/roseannes-nuts-canceled-by-lifetime/104514/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumb ers%29

:rolleyes:

James7
09-26-2011, 06:26 AM
Businessweek are suggesting a Netflix takeover might be forthcoming (http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-09-26/netflix-gets-57-cheaper-for-amazon-to-google-acquirer-real-m-a.html). Most likely by either google or amazon.

Share price has dropped considerably after the price increase and re-branding, such that it would be about 50% or more cheaper for a takeover now. Still, there seems to be the impression that it will become cheaper to acquire yet. It's pretty attractive for both of those companies to obtain and has quite a nice profit margin in addition to it's streaming and content assets.

Ti-Amie
09-26-2011, 09:15 AM
Surfing yesterday (too early for football) I found myself watching Sex and The City on the Style network. They were showing shows late in the series - when Charlotte met Trey - and I decided to go back to the beginning since I'd never really watched the early episodes.

I ended up watching S1 eps 1-4 at an online site and I have to say what a difference the early show was compared to what it became. Carrie was actually likable to me. Samantha wasn't as over the top as she became.

Have to say I liked what I saw of S1 so far especially the cab ride where they counsel Charlotte on using the rear door. :lipsrsealed:

The 20 something male apartment was also LOL funny.

JTContinental
09-26-2011, 10:59 AM
Lifetime has canceled Roseanne Barr's Roseanne's Nuts. Hardly a surprise given the anemic ratings, which started OK with a 0.7 adults 18-49 rating before dwindling down to a 0.3 adults 18-49 rating. The writing was already on the wall by the time it was banished to Friday nights. Roseanne broke the news herself on Twitter Wednesday afternoon with a tweet (pictured above), and then followed up with another tweet (pictured below).

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/09/21/roseannes-nuts-canceled-by-lifetime/104514/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumb ers%29

:rolleyes:

I was a big fan of the series Roseanne, but this was a godawful series. It was like watching my grandparents bicker, only with more swearing.

Ti-Amie
09-30-2011, 07:26 AM
Televisions Highest Paid Actresses

Tina Fey - $13 million
Eva Longoria - $13 million
Marcia Cross - $10 million
Mariska Hargitay - $10 million
Marg Helgenberger - $10 million
Teri Hatcher - $9 million
Felicity Huffman - $9 million
Courteney Cox - $7 million
Ellen Pompeo - $7 million
Julianna Margulies - $6 million

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dorothypomerantz/2011/09/27/hollywoods-highest-paid-tv-actresses/

dryrunguy
09-30-2011, 08:41 AM
Speaking of Mariska, what do we all think of the new season on Law & Order SVU? I've been pleasantly surprised. In particular, I thought this week's episode was OUTSTANDING. If you missed it, don't worry. They'll re-run it 175 times as part of this season.

Ti-Amie
09-30-2011, 09:18 AM
Speaking of Mariska, what do we all think of the new season on Law & Order SVU? I've been pleasantly surprised. In particular, I thought this week's episode was OUTSTANDING. If you missed it, don't worry. They'll re-run it 175 times as part of this season.

I'm watching the reruns on the weekend. Without giving too much away what do you think of the new kids?

dryrunguy
09-30-2011, 10:02 AM
I'm watching the reruns on the weekend. Without giving too much away what do you think of the new kids?

It's hard to get a sense for them yet because the SVU dynamic has mostly been about Olivia's self-pity party.

But the storyline for the episode from Tuesday was excellent. As least I thought so. It was the first episode for the new guy.

Ti-Amie
09-30-2011, 10:27 AM
http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2011/09/29/100579_d1328b.jpg?t=1317305885&s=3

Tonight, CBS premieres How To Be A Gentleman, a brainless buddy comedy presenting a dichotomy in which men can be either delicate, ineffectual, sexless weaklings or ill-mannered but physically powerful meatheads. Says this show — over and over, in both its marketing and in its actual dialogue — there are gentlemen, and there are real men, and each might need to be a little more like the other.

Yes, yes, it's a sitcom, and caricatures are common, and on its own, this wouldn't make much of an impression. But this is not just any season. It's a season that also brings Tim Allen whining about what ever happened to "real men" in Last Man Standing, three guys lost in a universe of "pomegranate body wash" in Man Up, and — sometime in midseason, unless the universe blissfully swallows us all before then — two men in drag in Work It trying to overcome the entirely female-driven economy in which they literally cannot support themselves without dressing as women.

And in that environment, How To Be A Gentleman and its overt and unapologetic sexist stereotyping, in which only certain kinds of men are "real men," represents a kind of tipping point: Television right now — at least broadcast television — is even worse at managing its ideas about masculinity than about femininity.


Now, this is a pretty high bar and therefore an accomplishment to be taken seriously. But at least The Playboy Club and Pan Am know enough to rely on nostalgia. Neither NBC or ABC would put a show on the air in which a physically unattractive woman was trained in how to be a "real woman" by an idiotic but beautiful personal trainer, and if they did, they would not say that she needed to learn how to be a "real woman."

Other fall shows demonstrate some of this same complete lack of faith in the inherent emotional intelligence of men. Patrick Wilson plays a doctor on A Gifted Man who needs a dead woman to counsel him on how to have feelings. NBC's Free Agents features a female lead who has to counsel the male lead in how not to act like a weepy ... well, a weepy woman, in stereotypical terms. How, in other words, to man up.

I honestly think the men on television now resemble the men I know even less than the women on television resemble the women I know, and at least women are not being out-and-out instructed that there is only one way to be a woman.

That doesn't mean women are being well-served when television turns its attention to their gender. They're not. But when you see the four men on How To Be A Gentleman — Kevin Dillon as the meathead, David Hornsby as the nice weakling, Rhys Darby as the dopey husband of Hornsby's sister, and an utterly out-of-place Dave Foley as the buffoonish boss who can't age gracefully — it really begins to look like men are the new women, when it comes to being mercilessly pigeonholed and mocked for failing to represent an impossible ideal of perfect behavior and perfect looks.

It's woven into the DNA of this particular show: Dillon telling Hornsby that the sooner he starts working out, the sooner he can get "an adult male body." Foley telling him that the "holy grail" demographic for their magazine is "men in their mid-to-late thirties who act like they're fifteen." Hornsby asking Dillon, "What does a person like you like to read?" and being told, "Sports scores!" And yes, Dillon telling Hornsby — in the revelatory line that sets up their new friendship and the show — "You know everything about being a gentleman, and nothing about being a man."

So yes, the guy who only reads sports scores is going to teach about "being a man." And Tim Allen is upset about what ever happened to men. And the Man Up men are not men the way their fathers were.

There are plenty of silly women in new fall shows — Zooey Deschanel on New Girl and Whitney Cummings in Whitney, just to name two. But at least they are not presented as women who are being women incorrectly. Yes, The Playboy Club idealizes the Bunny, and that's plenty problematic, and the producers' efforts to co-opt the idea of female empowerment to put a shine on it is obnoxious and disrespectful.

But there is something about this narrative hectoring about men not understanding manhood that seems particularly brutal in that it specifically attacks them for emotional ineptitude while simultaneously attacking them for having emotions. Men who are emotionally reactive (like Hornsby's character here) are weak; men who are emotionally inert (like the Man Up guys) are clueless. In both cases, women don't want to have sex with them, even if they're married to them.

I cannot help asking, even more than I usually do when I watch scripted comedies: Where, on television, are the men who both like football and remember birthdays? Where are the men who can have a highly insightful drink-and-talk with friends? Where are the men who are great dads, great husbands, great boyfriends? Where are the men who are dedicated to important jobs? Where are the men who aren't seeking reassurance about what it means to be men? Where are, in short, all the men I rely on in my day-to-day life?

It really takes some effort to match television's historically disastrous relationship with femininity, but at this point, I'm prepared to say it: Right at this moment, I'm more comfortable with what scripted television thinks being a woman means than I am with what scripted television thinks being a man means.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2011/09/29/140915714/congratulations-television-you-are-even-worse-at-masculinity-than-femininity?sc=fb&cc=fp

Martini4me
09-30-2011, 12:32 PM
The results of the first couple of weeks of the fall TV season are in, and there are some surprises.

For the first time in its 25-year history, Fox won premiere week among young adults, which cements the network's dominance in the main demographic that drives ad spending and programming decisions across the industry. It looks like it has a good shot at taking the second week as well, thanks in part to a youth-oriented sitcom sleeper hit, "New Girl," with Zooey Deschanel — already the first new show to get a full-season order. In recent years, the network has struggled to find fall hits and typically had to wait until "American Idol" opened for business in January to start piling up the big numbers.

Another shocker? Some guy named Ashton Kutcher is apparently more popular than many people realized. The actor's heavily publicized debut on "Two and a Half Men" — replacing the fired Charlie Sheen — drew a record 28.7 million viewers, and the audience declined much less than many expected for the second episode Monday, with 20.5 million tuning in.

Except for NBC — crushed in its worst opening week ever — every network had at least a couple of early, modest successes to point to, including ABC's trashy soap "Revenge" and Jet Age caper "Pan Am," CBS' procedural "Unforgettable" and even Fox's Simon Cowell-produced "The X Factor," which boosted the network's position relative to last year — even with much lower-than-anticipated ratings.

"A lot of people are still coming to broadcast television … and are sampling a lot of the new shows and coming back to some of their favorites," said Preston Beckman, Fox's scheduling chief. Though network TV remains under attack from cable and online rivals, he added, "it still delivers more eyeballs than any other platform."

"Two and a Half Men" provided a startling demonstration of that power. Even though the tabloid drama surrounding Sheen's meltdown earlier this year all but guaranteed some extra tune-in for the show's return with a new costar, few predicted the Season 9 premiere would more than double last season's average. The episode drew a 25 share of the 18-to-49-year-old audience that advertisers seek — a figure almost never seen for scripted entertainment these days, and a huge victory for CBS and studio Warner Bros., vindicated in their decision to bring back the show after Sheen's meltdown.

"Men" was so powerful that it muscled viewers away from "Dancing With the Stars," which ABC was hoping would draw big numbers for a new cast that included Chaz Bono, the show's first transgender contestant, and cable host Nancy Grace.

"Those CBS numbers on Monday were huge," said Jeff Bader, who oversees scheduling for ABC. "The audience, I think a lot of it came from us."

CBS executives won't say where they think "Men" might end up settling this season. But "maybe there's a little more gas in the tank than people would've thought," said scheduling chief Kelly Kahl.

Elsewhere, CBS — which remains the most-watched network among all viewers —- helped balance its Tuesday schedule with "Unforgettable," a procedural about a detective with a rare ability to remember every day of her life. The show is skewing somewhat younger compared with the legal drama it replaced, "The Good Wife," which moved to Sundays, Kahl said.

Fox, meanwhile, may have had its victory party tempered by promising too much. A good deal of early analysis has treated both "X Factor" — the singing competition overseen by Cowell — and the dinosaur epic "Terra Nova" as disappointments, if only because the publicity campaigns and ratings hopes were so keen.

But both those shows helped Fox soar 31% in the 18-to-49 demographic compared with last year's premiere week, and that made all the difference: Indeed, it was the only network to show any growth (ABC was flat; CBS and NBC were down).

Another key advantage for Fox: It doesn't offer network programming in the 10 p.m. hour, typically a depot for scripted dramas. Those shows have lately had a difficult time scraping together enough viewers to satisfy network executives.

ABC has defied that trend this season, at least so far. "Revenge" and "Pan Am" performed surprisingly well in their 10 p.m. slots. In the case of "Pan Am," pairing it with an iconic show entering its final season may have helped.

"Women are the core audience for ABC and 'Pan Am'" — which focuses on a time when flight attendants were still known as stewardesses — "obviously has a natural appeal for women," Bader said. " 'Desperate Housewives' was the perfect lead-in for it, and it's on a night where the main competition is football."

The network that most needed a hit, of course, was the one that did not find one: NBC.

Mired in fourth place for years — and under a new owner, cable giant Comcast — the once-mighty network watched virtually its entire new lineup implode: the '60s flashback "The Playboy Club," the crime drama "Prime Suspect" and the comedy "Free Agents." Only "Up All Night," a comedy about young parents, showed some promise.

A close look at the numbers reveals the depth of NBC's woes. The network has a perilously unbalanced schedule and is almost entirely dependent on its popular Sunday NFL games for ratings. In fact, Sunday was the only night that NBC averaged above a 3.0 rating among 18-to-49-year-olds. ABC, CBS and Fox each had three nights that crossed that threshold. Without football, NBC's 2.6 average rating for premiere week would have dipped to an alarming 1.8, or a little more than half Fox's tally. And without football is what NBC will be come January.

Of course, a couple of weeks do not tell the story of an entire season, and executives have yet to roll out everything. Next month will see premieres for, among others, ABC's "Last Man Standing" starring Tim Allen (Oct. 11), NBC's fantasy "Grimm" (Oct. 21) and Fox's animated comedy "Allen Gregory" (Oct. 30).

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-fall-season-ratings-20110930,0,1541852.story

mmmm8
09-30-2011, 12:39 PM
I don't really understand why NBC chose to promote Up All Night but not the show that follows it, Free Agents. It's not bad (at least as good as Up All Night). It must be the demographic - Hank Azaria as a sad divorced middle-aged man doesn't skew young, but they need to support blocks of programming, not just half-hours

Ti-Amie
09-30-2011, 12:51 PM
I don't understand why NBC is premiering Grimm in late October. I get the Halloween thing and all that but it's an adult drama that would be perfect for those who like "Fringe" and "BtVS". It might also draw fans of "The Vampire Diaries" and "Supernatural" as well as "Haven" to throw in a cable show.

It's one money maker, the Law and Order franchise, got kicked to the curb and when Mariska Hargitay is gone who is going to carry SVU? I saw the one with Smirkette last week and will see this weeks on the weekend. Smirkette couldn't carry "Chase". How is she going to carry SVU?
Guess you can see I really don't like the actress.

The good stuff they did have, "Mercy" comes to mind, they get rid of. They don't promote "Community" at all.

skatingfan
09-30-2011, 08:08 PM
I for one will not be watching Law & Order: SVU once Hargitay is gone. The new people don't seem that great and the new guy I liked on Cold Case but all I could think of during the episode was that he was a poor man's Benjamin Bratt.

dryrunguy
10-01-2011, 11:30 AM
I for one will not be watching Law & Order: SVU once Hargitay is gone. The new people don't seem that great and the new guy I liked on Cold Case but all I could think of during the episode was that he was a poor man's Benjamin Bratt.

What a perfect analogy.

I'll stick with SVU as long as they can produce storylines like the one from Tuesday night. They had one or two really good ones last season too.

shtexas
10-04-2011, 05:52 PM
Playboy Club is the first to go.

mmmm8
10-04-2011, 07:39 PM
Playboy Club is the first to go.

Last week, I overheard someone on the phone seemingly from ABC talking about the show they plan to replace it with, so I was wondering when this'll happen.

(The replacement one didn't seem that great from the brief description I heard, I can't even remember what it was)

Miles
10-04-2011, 08:23 PM
Last week, I overheard someone on the phone seemingly from ABC talking about the show they plan to replace it with, so I was wondering when this'll happen.

(The replacement one didn't seem that great from the brief description I heard, I can't even remember what it was)

Wow, I had no idea ABC was now programming NBC! ;)

I also have no idea how this show ever made it to air. Women control the remote and modern women do not have nostalgia for this subject matter. This had failure written all over it, now were it on a cable network and more salacious, it could have done well.

mmmm8
10-04-2011, 08:43 PM
Wow, I had no idea ABC was now programming NBC! ;)

What's a one letter difference? :)

nelslus
10-04-2011, 09:51 PM
BTW, I truly think that SVU, which has been sucking more and more the last few years, is reaching new levels of suckdom this year. I thought that this last episode with the coach molester was dreadful- with too many pretty lousy guest actors. Losing Meloni is clearly a huge loss- and, yep, if they dump Mariska for good- it'll be time to give up this dinosaur. (The show I mean.....not Mariska. :gorgeous:)

Kirkus
10-04-2011, 10:32 PM
Either Glee has been hiding Harry Shum Jr.'s singing talent under a bowl, or the guy has worked his ass off in the off-season learning how to sing.

I thought his performance this week was excellent!!

omess
10-05-2011, 04:36 AM
Wow, I had no idea ABC was now programming NBC! ;)

I also have no idea how this show ever made it to air. Women control the remote and modern women do not have nostalgia for this subject matter. This had failure written all over it, now were it on a cable network and more salacious, it could have done well.
Yeah I was confuse too it made it to air :eek:. Just the title is a turn off .

Martini4me
10-05-2011, 06:09 AM
Playboy Club is the first to go.

That was quick. Entertainment Weekly published an on-line article just yesterday in which they discussed the prospects of all the new shows. They're listed in order of ratings in the 18-49 demographic (oh, dear, I'm almost irrelevant).

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/03/fall-tv-2011-schedule-cancelled-shows/

Did anyone else receive a postcard in the mail to advertise the debut of Pan Am? My wife was excited because she thought we were receiving an actual postcard from someone in Paris.

Kirkus
10-05-2011, 08:32 AM
That was quick. Entertainment Weekly published an on-line article just yesterday in which they discussed the prospects of all the new shows. They're listed in order of ratings in the 18-49 demographic (oh, dear, I'm almost irrelevant).

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/10/03/fall-tv-2011-schedule-cancelled-shows/

Did anyone else receive a postcard in the mail to advertise the debut of Pan Am? My wife was excited because she thought we were receiving an actual postcard from someone in Paris.
Thanks for the link, M4M.

"New Girl" has made me laugh out loud as often as "Modern Family" does. Even with the casting snafu following the pilot, I love the cast.

mmmm8
10-05-2011, 08:53 AM
Thanks for the link, M4M.

"New Girl" has made me laugh out loud as often as "Modern Family" does. Even with the casting snafu following the pilot, I love the cast.


Yeah, the original token black guy was better, but his part on Happy Endings is also a much better one. Happy Endings is a good show in the same vein, btw

Jay
10-05-2011, 10:42 AM
Yeah, the original token black guy was better, but his part on Happy Endings is also a much better one. Happy Endings is a good show in the same vein, btw

I was wondering if it was the same guy. I need to dvr "New Girl." it looks pretty good. Happy Endings is one of my favourite shows

I'm still really liking Ringer.

Jay
10-05-2011, 10:54 AM
Either Glee has been hiding Harry Shum Jr.'s singing talent under a bowl, or the guy has worked his ass off in the off-season learning how to sing.

I thought his performance this week was excellent!!

Really??? I haven't watched Glee since the beginning of the first season, so I don't know how he sounded before. He must have sounded dreadful before because I watched the new episode, and I don't think he can sing at all. He sounds like most people who can't sing but have had training so they're bearable.

Kirkus
10-05-2011, 11:26 AM
Really??? I haven't watched Glee since the beginning of the first season, so I don't know how he sounded before. He must have sounded dreadful before because I watched the new episode, and I don't think he can sing at all. He sounds like most people who can't sing but have had training so they're bearable.
This is actually the first time he's ever sang on the show. He was strictly a dancer and was therefore not really used much in the plots. I've been following his progress because he went to high school here with my daughters. I never met him, but it's still kind of a local interest thing.

tobiasfunke
10-05-2011, 03:10 PM
I'm glad it looks like we will be seeing more of Mike Chang. His story last night could have been good if it wasn't resolved in all of about 10 minutes. Typical of Glee to rush things, though.

mmmm8
10-05-2011, 03:12 PM
I'm glad it looks like we will be seeing more of Mike Chang. His story last night could have been good if it wasn't resolved in all of about 10 minutes. Typical of Glee to rush things, though.

He was late to an audition! :)


Yeah, the singing was... almost ok, but the performance was quite great.

And if anyone else has seen whatever installment of Step Up he was in - he's an incredible dancer

Kirkus
10-05-2011, 03:41 PM
Asian F! :shocked:

shtexas
10-06-2011, 02:10 PM
Free Agents :confused: is the second show to go.

Poor NBC

Charlie02123
10-06-2011, 05:13 PM
Free Agents :confused: is the second show to go.

Poor NBC
As soon as I saw the first preview I thought "WHY would they think these two actors could carry a show?" I really enjoy both of them, but seriously.

Kirkus
10-06-2011, 07:43 PM
Never heard of it.

mmmm8
10-06-2011, 07:50 PM
It wasn't very good, but I kind of liked it. But for such a random show they would have needed to create a strong identity, and the show kinda couldn't find itself.

I'm close to giving up on Up All Night, though

Kirkus
10-06-2011, 10:55 PM
I've already dropped Pan Am and Charlie's Angels.

Saw the premier episode of "American Horror Story" tonight. I guess they had to show me Dylan's bare ass just because they can? I'm not a prude, but I thought the sexual content was over the top; not necessary. I guess that's the American part of the horror story.

Overall though, I liked it. I'll definitely give it another look.

JTContinental
10-06-2011, 11:00 PM
We watched the premiere of American Horror Story tonight, and I almost liked it. I didn't like all the quick cuts in it, Dylan MacDermott was miscast, and I didn't like Connie Britton's character. I'll definitely watch at least one more episode.

shtexas
10-07-2011, 09:10 AM
As was discussed in one of the other tv threads, Charlie liked American Horror Story and I didn't know whether it was good or bad. But, I was intrigued. I'll also repeat I never thought Dylan McDermott was a good actor. He's a 2 expression actor. Now, at least he revealed a third expression, if you know what I mean.

JTContinental
10-07-2011, 11:01 AM
As was discussed in one of the other tv threads, Charlie liked American Horror Story and I didn't know whether it was good or bad. But, I was intrigued. I'll also repeat I never thought Dylan McDermott was a good actor. He's a 2 expression actor. Now, at least he revealed a third expression, if you know what I mean.

I like the third one best. ;)

JTContinental
10-07-2011, 01:34 PM
I'm glad it looks like we will be seeing more of Mike Chang. His story last night could have been good if it wasn't resolved in all of about 10 minutes. Typical of Glee to rush things, though.

I just had a random flash of Michael Chang on an episode of Glee.

Ti-Amie
11-15-2011, 06:33 AM
NBC has put "Community" and "Prime Suspect" on hiatus. There's already an online petition to keep "Community" on the air.

Ti-Amie
11-15-2011, 06:38 AM
I'm addicted to the British scifi show "Misfits". I went through the first two seasons in no time while convalescing.
I hope the US doesn't try and remake it although the US version of "Shameless" is much better than the British original.

Edmond Dantčs
11-15-2011, 06:50 AM
I'm addicted to the British scifi show "Misfits". I went through the first two seasons in no time while convalescing.
I hope the US doesn't try and remake it although the US version of "Shameless" is much better than the British original.Josh Schwartz (Gossip Girl) is writing a pilot episode with the creator of the UK version. Would need to be significantly toned down/re-imagined to find a home on network TV.

Ti-Amie
11-15-2011, 07:14 AM
Josh Schwartz (Gossip Girl) is writing a pilot episode with the creator of the UK version. Would need to be significantly toned down/re-imagined to find a home on network TV.

The thing is "Misfits" is better suited to cable. I think "Shameless" is on Showtime here in the States. I'm thinking Schwartz will turn the show into "Gossip Girl" with miscreants. I mean can Kelly even translate to American network television? Nathan? Any of them?

Edmond Dantčs
11-15-2011, 07:35 AM
The thing is "Misfits" is better suited to cable. I think "Shameless" is on Showtime here in the States. I'm thinking Schwartz will turn the show into "Gossip Girl" with miscreants. I mean can Kelly even translate to American network television? Nathan? Any of them?I agree. It would be a better fit on cable where, even though they would (or should) still have to adjust for cultural differences, it wouldn't have to be completely watered down. The worst thing they could do would be to sanitize it, but still stick with the same character types.

If people found 'Skins' to be controversial then I think they'll have many issues with this program :cheesy:

Ti-Amie
11-15-2011, 07:56 AM
I got through about ten minutes of UK "Skins" and didn't care for it but that has to do with my age I think. :cheesy:

The people behind US "Shameless" have done a great job making the Gallagher's into a dysfunctional American family with Emmy Rossum, William Macy and the rest of the ensemble avoiding the trap of stereotyping that so many American shows fall into when showing members of the lower class.

I'm not sure Schwartz can pull that off.

Jay
11-15-2011, 08:32 AM
I've posted about Misfits before. It was my favourite show from last year. So goood. I think Kelly could translate well in the US if done right.

I don't want Americans to touch it, though :p

Nathan was my favourite character.

Ti-Amie
11-15-2011, 08:53 AM
I've posted about Misfits before. It was my favourite show from last year. So goood. I think Kelly could translate well in the US if done right.

I don't want Americans to touch it, though :p

Nathan was my favourite character.

There are Americans who can do justice to the show but they don't work on network television. If the rumor is true and Schwartz is the man who was given the project it's going to be a disaster.

Robert Sheehan's (Nathan's) leaving has to do with all the work coming his way. Again I haven't seen anything from Sheehan himself. You do kinda look like him btw. :)

Edmond Dantčs
11-15-2011, 10:22 AM
The only other thing I've seen Sheehan in is the 'Red Riding' trilogy. He has a small but important role in that. It's worth checking it out, even if the subject matter means it's not an easy watch. It also stars Andrew Garfield, Rebecca Hall, Sean Bean, Mark Addy, Paddy Considine and David Morrisey.

I've seen the first episode of Misfits season 3 and it looks like they will be able to cope without Nathan. They are fortunate in that the rest of the cast is strong, and there's a lot of scope to explore and develop their characters.

Jay
11-15-2011, 02:58 PM
There are Americans who can do justice to the show but they don't work on network television. If the rumor is true and Schwartz is the man who was given the project it's going to be a disaster.

Robert Sheehan's (Nathan's) leaving has to do with all the work coming his way. Again I haven't seen anything from Sheehan himself. You do kinda look like him btw. :)

True. A few cable stations would make it work well. I hope they find someone better than Schwartz.

Yeah, he's supposedly getting a lot of new roles soon or something (or so I've read). I saw him in that awful film, Season of the Witch, with Nicolas Coppola (Cage). Though, anything with Nick these days is gonna be a craptacular movie. He wasn't too bad in it, but the film was terrible. I think the majority of his work has been mostly stuff only released in Britain.

Thanks :cheesy:. My sister said the same thing. She kept calling him Jessie when he would appear on screen in the film lol.

Kirkus
11-15-2011, 06:43 PM
NBC has put "Community" and "Prime Suspect" on hiatus. There's already an online petition to keep "Community" on the air.
Figures. "Prime Suspect" is one of my favorite new shows.

Ti-Amie
11-19-2011, 10:51 AM
Elisabeth Shue is replacing Marg Helgenburger on CSI original flavor.

Kirkus
11-19-2011, 12:21 PM
I simply can't describe the disappointment I feel in the cancellation of "Prime Suspect". I discovered that it's producer, Peter Berg, also produced my other favorite "loved-by-critics-but-not-by-viewers" series, "Friday Night Lights".

Figures.

Ti-Amie
11-19-2011, 05:31 PM
And NBC put "Community" on hiatus but is putting a new "Munsters" show in production.

rabbit
11-19-2011, 06:04 PM
This latest "Gettysburg" episode of The Office was the lowest of the low :(

Ti-Amie
12-06-2011, 12:34 PM
New York Magazine"s top 10 shows

The Top 10

1. Breaking Bad
Vince Gilligan’s perfectly plotted methodrama kept flying high four seasons in, as once-mild-mannered chemistry teacher Walter White continued his breakneck moral descent, a chilling trajectory that led to the year’s most memorable, and least hollow, “Holy shit, did that just happen?” moment. Tie-straightening will never be the same again.

2. Downton Abbey
If Jane Austen made TV, it would be something like the first season of Julian *Fellowes’s British-import late-Edwardian costume drama, bursting with witticisms, romance, a class system, and, stealing her every scene, Dame *Maggie Smith.

3. Louie
Louie C.K.’s perverse, thoughtful, low-budget FX sitcom feels like being in his peculiar head—where masturbation, heartbreak, the anxiety of fatherhood, and observations about duck vaginas jangle together hilariously. Plus it finally made Dane Cook seem cool.

4. Homeland
A post-9/11 drama with a nuanced worldview and *national-security perspective, it’s also a thriller that actually thrills. And Claire Danes makes for an extremely convincing hard-nosed, potty-mouthed, mentally ill government agent.

5. The Good Wife
For the first half of the year, The Good Wife was the best drama on television, a realpolitik procedural obsessed with meaty current events and also a serialized drama with a clear-eyed perspective on the sordid things people are capable of

6. Parks and Recreation
In its third season, Parks and Recreation’s already strong Amy Poehler–led cast got stronger with the additions of Rob “Stop Pooping” Lowe and Adam Scott. The series’s distinctive comedic style forgoes mean-spiritedness and humiliation to celebrate kindness and competence.

7. Friday Night Lights
When coach Eric Taylor, the most decent man ever to anchor a TV show, tried to teach his new football team “Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can’t Lose” in the series finale, his signature phrase still packed enough emotional gravitas to bring a tear to the eye.

8. Community
As of this month, Dan *Harmon’s meta-sitcom Community will go off the NBC schedule. What a shame: There aren’t any other series with the guts or ambition to do a genre-exploding, episode-long homage to My Dinner With Andre that climaxes in an existential epiphany brought about by sudden-onset diarrhea.

9. Justified
Margo Martindale, as a backwoods matriarch, turned into TV’s most richly developed villain—on a show that has no shortage of great bad guys. *Justifiedperfectly paced a season-long cat-and-mouse game that balanced genre staples with a consistent sense of humor.

10. Happy Endings
Proving yet again that in comedies it’s not concepts but chemistry that counts, what initially seemed like little more than a Friends knockoff developed its own fresh style by filling out its zany gang with heretofore unseen character types, like Adam Pally as an incidentally gay bro, and Damon Wayans Jr. and Eliza Coupe’s horny goofball marrieds.

http://nymag.com/arts/cultureawards/2011/top-ten-tv-shows/

shtexas
12-06-2011, 12:49 PM
I really like Happy Endings. Their scripts must be twice as long as those for other sitcoms.

Edmond Dantčs
12-06-2011, 01:05 PM
I really like Happy Endings. Their scripts must be twice as long as those for other sitcoms.Yeah, I like it a lot too. Very sharply scripted. Reminds me of HIMYM in its use of flashbacks, and even the theme tune seems similar.

mmmm8
12-06-2011, 01:10 PM
I really like Happy Endings. Their scripts must be twice as long as those for other sitcoms.

I discovered the first season in late spring/over the summer, big fan as well.

I´m very glad the gave this show a good timeslot, otherwise it would have gone the way of Better Off Ted.

Jay
12-06-2011, 02:14 PM
Add me to the list of Happy Endings fans. LOVE it. It's become one of my favourites this year.

Ti-Amie
12-12-2011, 06:34 PM
The American Film Institute's list of the top 10 TV shows of 2011 was recently released - and while it's not completely off, we might have included Starz's taut new political drama "Boss," starring an outstanding Kelsey Grammar, as well as FX's veteran biker drama "Sons of Anarchy," whose just-wrapped Season 4 was its best yet. Here's AFI's full list:

1. "Breaking Bad"
2. "Boardwalk Empire"
3. "Curb Your Enthusiasm"
4. "Game of Thrones"
5. "The Good Wife"
6. "Homeland"
7. "Justified"
8. "Louie"
9. "Modern Family"
10. "Parks and Recreation"

http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/the-best-tv-shows-of-2011-according-to-the-american-film-institute-1.3384790

Ti-Amie
12-28-2011, 08:44 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog_post_349_width/2011/12/hell_on_wheels_a_p.jpg

It’s official: AMC has renewed Hell on Wheels for a second season.
Days after news leaked that the Western starring Anson Mount and Common would earn a pickup, the network has formally announced plans for a sophomore season.

Hell on Wheels stands as the second-highest-rated drama series on the network, averaging 3.2 million total viewers and 1.5 million in adults 25-54 and hails from writer-creators Joe and Tony Gayton.

The story of the building of the first transcontinental railroad became AMC’s second-highest original series premiere when it launched in November behind the net’s zombie hit The Walking Dead, drawing 4.4 million total viewers, and an impressive 2.4 million in the key adults 18-49 demographic.

The Western now marks the fifth of six original series to stretch beyond freshman seasons as AMC continues to find success with scripted fare, joining Walking Dead, Mad Men, Breaking Bad and The Killing.

The Season 1 finale is set for Jan. 15.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/official-amc-renews-hell-wheels-276403

shtexas
12-28-2011, 11:02 AM
The name Anson Mount always makes me chuckle. Sort of like with actor Rider Strong.

Kirkus
12-29-2011, 11:03 PM
I just watched the first episode of "Downton Abbey". Outstanding! I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to more.

Ti-Amie
01-07-2012, 03:04 PM
NBC Entertainment chairman Robert Greenblatt has admitted that the network suffered a "really bad" fall season.

In the latter half of 2011, the network canceled new shows including The Playboy Club, Prime Suspect and Free Agents as ratings dropped by 11% to an average of 7.4 million viewers and a 2.5 adult demo.

"We had a really bad fall," Greenblatt confessed at a press tour event. "[It was] worse than I had hoped for, but actually about what I expected.

"People keep saying the only place we have to go is up - which I think is true, but there's a lot of work to do before we get there. We had few strong lead-ins - our most recent scripted hit, The Office, is six years old. Some of our older hits lost cast members."

Greenblatt also suggested that NBC's merger with Comcast would be "good news" for viewers, saying: "They're investing in our business, not only with financial resources, but with their patience."

Other revelations from the NBC press event include the confirmation of guest mentors for The Voice season two, news of Harry Connick Jr's guest stint in Law & Order: SVU and assurance that Community has not been canceled.

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a358928/nbc-chairman-we-had-a-really-bad-fall-season.html

shtexas
01-11-2012, 07:59 PM
So, any theories why NCIS is getting even more popular in its ninth season?

tobiasfunke
01-14-2012, 03:13 PM
John McEnroe had a hilarious cameo on this week's season premier of 30 Rock.

dryrunguy
01-17-2012, 01:06 PM
I love Betty White's "Off Their Rockers"!

owendonovan
01-17-2012, 02:26 PM
I just watched the first episode of "Downton Abbey". Outstanding! I really enjoyed it and am looking forward to more.

Each episode could be 12 hours long and I'd still think it's not long enough. I don't think I've loved a show more than this one in my life.

Ti-Amie
02-07-2012, 08:55 AM
TVLine has learned exclusively that the HBO mob hit has opted not to pick up the actress’ Season 3 contract option, which means viewers have likely seen the last of her character, Lucy Danziger.

Introduced in Season 1 as Nucky’s (Steve Buscemi) unhinged mistress, Lucy spent much of Season 2 pregnant and shacked up with Michael Shannon’s Van Alden (the baby daddy). Shortly after giving birth, she went on a formula run and never returned, leaving the baby in Van Alden’s care.

An HBO rep declined to comment for this story.
De la Huerta’s exit brings to four the number of original Empire cast members not returning for Season 3; she joins Michael Pitt, Dabney Coleman and Aleksa Palladino (all of whom were killed off in Season 2′s final hours).
To fill the void, producers are introducing several new characters, including a rival to Nucky played by Bobby Cannavale.

http://www.tvline.com/2012/02/boardwalk-empire-paz-de-la-huerta-fired/

Moose
02-07-2012, 08:58 AM
P. Gordon. Real or fake?

Kirkus
02-07-2012, 09:24 AM
P. Gordon. Real or fake?
Fake. (I hope.)

Ti-Amie
02-07-2012, 09:07 PM
As mid-season shows debut over the next three months, it will be crunch time for a number of series that haven't been tearing up the Nielsen charts. Here's what network insiders say are the shows on the bubble as execs look to set their schedules in May.

ABC

A second-year ratings fade may mean it's time to pull a sheet over the Dana Delany-led Body of Proof. While the network ordered an extra episode of Pan Am in order to keep a hold on the cast until May, its chances of returning next fall are as likely as an airport going a full day without a flight delay. Comedy Happy Endings doesn't do a great job retaining the lead-in from the mighty Modern Family, but ABC parent Disney has an ownership stake in the show and it's a favorite within the network's entertainment division — so a pickup for another season is considered a lock. And fan fave Cougar Town will get a final shot for renewal if it performs well in its new Tuesday time period starting February 14.

CBS

It may finally be toe-tag time for CSI: Miami or CSI: NY. David Caruso's Miami is getting its first extended period on the bench starting April 15, as CBS tries out NYC 22 in the Sunday-at-10pm time slot. Both shows are given bubble status for renewal, with survival dependent on how strong the network's new drama development comes in. A Gifted Man is also on life support, with a run in a later 9pm slot likely to decide its fate. On the comedy side, Rob Schneider's new comedy, Rob, has done a credible job of retaining its Big Bang Theory lead-in. If CBS decides to expand to four comedies on Thursday, it's a shoo-in to return. An eight-comedy CBS schedule would also be good news for Rules of Engagement.

The CW

It would be tough to make a case for bringing back Gossip Girl, 90210, Nikita or Ringer based on ratings alone. But the revenue generated by deals to stream the shows over Hulu and Netflix will become a significant part of the equation in determining which shows return, along with syndication deals and foreign sales and the ownership stakes that CW partners CBS and Warner Bros. have in them. "Money is the new metric," says one insider.

Fox

NBC Universal, the studio that makes House, is still holding out hope that Fox will pick up another season of the aging series, a money machine in syndication. But word is that star Hugh Laurie is ready to move on. Terra Nova, while expensive, is profitable for Fox, but network executives were disappointed in the writing of Season 1 and have delayed giving it a green light. The strong early performance of Alcatraz and solid sampling for Touch (the Fox Monday lineup of the future?) could make the decision to move on easier. The network is in the red with Fringe on Fridays and only paying a much lower license fee to its studio, Warner Bros., can save it. There are rumblings that Fox is ready to pull the plug on the animated American Dad; Raising Hope is also not a slam dunk to return for a third season.

NBC

NBC has ordered 13 comedy pilots for next season, proof that it's clearly intent on coming up with shows that will deliver more than the niche audiences it's been drawing. The producers of ratings-challenged freshmen crop Whitney, Up All Night and Are You There, Chelsea? will have to make a case that they can grow if they get a Season 2. Community fans should relax as NBC is likely to order more episodes of the cult fave to make the comedy attractive for syndication. The international co-production deal for The Firm made it cheaper for NBC than the typical network drama. But the network just moved it to Saturdays at 9pm beginning February 11 to make way for the new drama Awake. So chances are it'll get thrown out of court.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Bubble-Shows-Biz-1042820.aspx

owendonovan
02-07-2012, 09:24 PM
As mid-season shows debut over the next three months, it will be crunch time for a number of series that haven't been tearing up the Nielsen charts. Here's what network insiders say are the shows on the bubble as execs look to set their schedules in May.

ABC

A second-year ratings fade may mean it's time to pull a sheet over the Dana Delany-led Body of Proof. While the network ordered an extra episode of Pan Am in order to keep a hold on the cast until May, its chances of returning next fall are as likely as an airport going a full day without a flight delay. Comedy Happy Endings doesn't do a great job retaining the lead-in from the mighty Modern Family, but ABC parent Disney has an ownership stake in the show and it's a favorite within the network's entertainment division — so a pickup for another season is considered a lock. And fan fave Cougar Town will get a final shot for renewal if it performs well in its new Tuesday time period starting February 14.

CBS

It may finally be toe-tag time for CSI: Miami or CSI: NY. David Caruso's Miami is getting its first extended period on the bench starting April 15, as CBS tries out NYC 22 in the Sunday-at-10pm time slot. Both shows are given bubble status for renewal, with survival dependent on how strong the network's new drama development comes in. A Gifted Man is also on life support, with a run in a later 9pm slot likely to decide its fate. On the comedy side, Rob Schneider's new comedy, Rob, has done a credible job of retaining its Big Bang Theory lead-in. If CBS decides to expand to four comedies on Thursday, it's a shoo-in to return. An eight-comedy CBS schedule would also be good news for Rules of Engagement.

The CW

It would be tough to make a case for bringing back Gossip Girl, 90210, Nikita or Ringer based on ratings alone. But the revenue generated by deals to stream the shows over Hulu and Netflix will become a significant part of the equation in determining which shows return, along with syndication deals and foreign sales and the ownership stakes that CW partners CBS and Warner Bros. have in them. "Money is the new metric," says one insider.

Fox

NBC Universal, the studio that makes House, is still holding out hope that Fox will pick up another season of the aging series, a money machine in syndication. But word is that star Hugh Laurie is ready to move on. Terra Nova, while expensive, is profitable for Fox, but network executives were disappointed in the writing of Season 1 and have delayed giving it a green light. The strong early performance of Alcatraz and solid sampling for Touch (the Fox Monday lineup of the future?) could make the decision to move on easier. The network is in the red with Fringe on Fridays and only paying a much lower license fee to its studio, Warner Bros., can save it. There are rumblings that Fox is ready to pull the plug on the animated American Dad; Raising Hope is also not a slam dunk to return for a third season.

NBC

NBC has ordered 13 comedy pilots for next season, proof that it's clearly intent on coming up with shows that will deliver more than the niche audiences it's been drawing. The producers of ratings-challenged freshmen crop Whitney, Up All Night and Are You There, Chelsea? will have to make a case that they can grow if they get a Season 2. Community fans should relax as NBC is likely to order more episodes of the cult fave to make the comedy attractive for syndication. The international co-production deal for The Firm made it cheaper for NBC than the typical network drama. But the network just moved it to Saturdays at 9pm beginning February 11 to make way for the new drama Awake. So chances are it'll get thrown out of court.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Bubble-Shows-Biz-1042820.aspx
I watch none of those and haven't heard of many of them.

JTContinental
02-07-2012, 10:02 PM
I watch none of those and haven't heard of many of them.

I was just thinking the same thing. The first season of Nikita was really good, but it really went off the rails. I dropped just a couple of episodes into the new season, even with the addition of Alberta Watson to the cast.

Charlie02123
02-07-2012, 10:50 PM
I was just thinking the same thing. The first season of Nikita was really good, but it really went off the rails. I dropped just a couple of episodes into the new season, even with the addition of Alberta Watson to the cast.
Alberta Watson! Well now I may have to watch.

shtexas
02-08-2012, 08:42 AM
Of those listed above, I watch Happy Endings and Alcatraz.

Ringer was gone too long and I forgot about it. Looking at its ratings last week, apparently I'm not alone.

I'm waiting for Alcatraz to pick up much like Person of Interest has. Sometimes it takes a while. Meanwhile, I'll just enjoy Jorge Garcia and Robert Forster (when he's in it).

Ti-Amie
02-08-2012, 08:47 AM
I'm enjoying Alcatraz as well but I was a fan of The 4400.

Kirkus
02-08-2012, 09:15 AM
I'm still pissed off over the cancellation of "Prime Suspect".

Ti-Amie
02-08-2012, 09:23 AM
Ringer was gone too long and I forgot about it. Looking at its ratings last week, apparently I'm not alone.

This is something I don't understand. new show starts to build momentum and people start to tune in and next thing you know it's on "vacation" from mid December until mid to late January. What is the rationale behind that? As shtexas says the tendency is for people to lose interest. That means lower ratings and that leads to cancellation. I just don't get it.

owendonovan
02-08-2012, 09:30 AM
This is something I don't understand. new show starts to build momentum and people start to tune in and next thing you know it's on "vacation" from mid December until mid to late January. What is the rationale behind that? As shtexas says the tendency is for people to lose interest. That means lower ratings and that leads to cancellation. I just don't get it.

People get fired and with that so goes their projects. Hollywood is a bitter vengeful place.

Ti-Amie
02-08-2012, 09:37 AM
So the bottom line is these shows are meant to fail? That some shows are created more equal than others?

I'm watching Law & Order original flavor starting with Season 1 via Netflix. I have to say if you watch those very early episodes in today's environment the show wouldn't have lasted a season. Watching it evolve, watching the changes in the leads until the late Jerry Ohrbach stepped in is interesting to say the least.

I can say the same about some of the shows on USA and TNT.

Is network television going to become nothing but reality television while cable, which is very expensive, has all of the best drama, and cutting edge comedy as well as news coverage?

shtexas
02-08-2012, 09:49 AM
I don't know how the CW is going to survive:

Gossip Girl 0.6/2 1.25
Hart Of Dixie 0.6/1 1.52
90210 0.7/2 1.36
Ringer 0.5/1 1.15

They can't cancel their entire Monday and Tuesday line-ups, can they?

Ti-Amie
02-08-2012, 08:19 PM
It’s official: House is checking out.

Calling it a creative decision made by the show’s producers, Fox announced Wednesday that the Hugh Laurie-fronted medical drama will conclude its eight-year run in May.

The early announcement ensures that series creator David Shore will get his wish to give the show a fitting farewell. “I want to do [the ending] right,” he told TVLine over the summer.

Below is a joint statement from Laurie, Shore and fellow exec producer Katie Jacobs:

After much deliberation, the producers of House M.D. have decided that this season of the show, the 8th, should be the last. By April this year they will have completed 177 episodes, which is about 175 more than anyone expected back in 2004.
The decision to end the show now, or ever, is a painful one, as it risks putting asunder hundreds of close friendships that have developed over the last eight years – but also because the show itself has been a source of great pride to everyone involved.
Since it began, House has aspired to offer a coherent and satisfying world in which everlasting human questions of ethics and emotion, logic and truth, could be examined, played out, and occasionally answered. This sounds like fancy talk, but it really isn’t. House has, in its time, intrigued audiences around the world in vast numbers, and has shown that there is a strong appetite for television drama that relies on more than prettiness or gun play.
But now that time is drawing to a close. The producers have always imagined House as an enigmatic creature; he should never be the last one to leave the party. How much better to disappear before the music stops, while there is still some promise and mystique in the air.
The producers can never sufficiently express their gratitude to the hundreds of dedicated artists and technicians who have given so generously of their energy and talent to make House the show it has been – and perhaps will continue to be for some time, on one cable network or another.
The makers of House would also like to thank Fox Broadcasting and Universal Television for supporting the show with patience, imagination and large quantities of good taste. The Studio-As-Evil-Adversary is one of the many clichés that House has managed to avoid, and for that the cast and crew are deeply grateful.
Lastly, the audience: some have come and some have gone, obviously. This is to be expected in the life of any show. But over the course of the last eight years, the producers of House have felt immensely honored to be the subject of such close attention by an intelligent, discriminating, humane and thoughtful – not to mention numerous – audience. Even the show’s detractors have been flattering in their way. Making the show has felt like a lively and passionate discussion about as many different subjects as could possibly be raised in 177 hours. The devotion and generosity of our viewers has been marvelous to behold.
So, finally, everyone at House will bid farewell to the audience and to each other with more than a few tears, but also with a deep feeling of gratitude for the grand adventure they have been privileged to enjoy for the last eight years. If the show lives on somewhere, with somebody, as a fond memory, then that is a precious feat, of which we will always be proud.
Everybody Lies.

Here’s Fox president Kevin Reilly’s statement:

While it’s with much regret, and a lump in our throats, we respect the decision Hugh, David and Katie have made. A true original, on the page and amazingly brought to life by Hugh Laurie, there is only one Dr. House. For eight seasons, the entire House team has given us – and fans around the world – some of the most compelling characters and affecting stories ever seen on television. They have been creatively tenacious and collaborative throughout this incredible run, and they are amongst the most superior talents in the business. For all the above, we wholeheartedly thank them, and the fans who have supported the show.

Cast members present and past were quick to comment on the news via Twitter, with Jesse Spencer saying a simple, “Fare thee well, House,” and Olivia Wilde calling it “the end of an era. Shows like that don’t happen, well, ever. I’m honored to have been a part of such a brilliant story.” (Will Wilde return as Thirteen?

http://www.tvline.com/2012/02/house-fox-ending-may-2012/

Ti-Amie
02-23-2012, 04:12 PM
Interesting analysis.



HBO justly gets credit for pushing the medium of television forward. Broadly speaking, you can pinpoint the start of the modern TV era with The Sopranos, a show wildly hailed for taking a novelistic approach to the small screen. Back then, the word “novelistic” was used in a metaphorical sense. It wasn’t that David Chase literally applied the techniques used to construct a novel to his show. Rather, The Sopranos took a patient approach that rewarded sustained viewing. The promise that payoffs down the line would be that much sweeter for the journey didn’t originate with the HBO mob drama, but the series turned into the boilerplate for what passes as critically relevant television.

But is this a good thing? The Sopranos opened up what was possible on television. But it also limited it. It seems silly to state that the addition of ambition to the medium has somehow hindered its growth, but making HBO the gold standard against which quality programming is judged has hurt television more than it’s helped it. The A.V. Club’s TV editor Todd VanDerWerff started pointing out the change in HBO’s approach when, speaking of Game Of Thrones, he noted something that had been in the back of my mind but not fully formulated until I heard him say it: HBO isn’t in the business of producing episodes in the traditional manner. Rather, it airs equal slices of an overall story over a fixed series of weeks. If I may put words into his mouth: HBO doesn’t air episodes of television, it airs installments.

This isn’t merely a semantic difference that paints lipstick on the same pig. It’s a fundamentally different way of viewing the function of an individual building block of a season, or series, of television. Calling The Sopranos a novelistic approach to the medium means praising both its new approach to television and its long-form storytelling. But HBO has shifted its model to produce televised novels, in which chapters unfold as part and parcel of a larger whole rather than serving the individual piece itself.* Here’s the problem: A television show is not a novel. That’s not to put one above the other. It’s simply meant to illuminate that each piece of art has to accomplish different things. HBO’s apparent lack of awareness of this difference has filtered into its product, and also filtered into the product of nearly every other network as well.

Why is treating an episode as an installment a problem? An episode functions unto itself as a piece of entertainment, one that has an ebb and flow that can be enjoyed on its own terms. An installment serves the über-story of that season without regard for accomplishing anything substantial during its running time. The first three and a half hours of Luck are installments in the nine-hour story that is that show. Events happen, but they are shaped to the season first and the episode second. It’s one thing to have a goal toward which everything is progressing. But episodes need to have goals as well. It’s the difference between making people anticipate where the show is going, and making them wait for it.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/did-the-sopranos-do-more-harm-than-good-hbo-and-th,69596/

Ti-Amie
02-28-2012, 11:30 AM
...Charlie's Angels' Lucy Liu is set to star in CBS' modern-day Sherlock Holmes reboot Elementary, TVLine reports.
Jonny Lee Miller is taking on the role of Sherlock, so who is Liu playing? The answer may surprise you...

Watson! Yes, Liu is set to play Watson, so it's safe to say CBS is going in a radically different direction with Elementary. Another change? The detective duo will now live in New York City.

The show follows Holmes fresh out of rehab and living with his sober companion Joan Watson, who is a former surgeon who lost her license after a patient died.

Elementary comes from Medium's Rob Doherty, Homeland's Michael Cuesta (who will direct the pilot), Sarah Timberman and Carl Beverly.

Liu is currently starring as Officer Jessica Tang on TNT's Southland and previously starred on Cashmere Mafia, Dirty Sexy Money and Ally McBeal.

http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/lucy_liu_star_in_cbs_sherlock_holmes/297299

Moose
02-28-2012, 12:41 PM
...Charlie's Angels' Lucy Liu is set to star in CBS' modern-day Sherlock Holmes reboot Elementary, TVLine reports.
Jonny Lee Miller is taking on the role of Sherlock, so who is Liu playing? The answer may surprise you...

Watson! Yes, Liu is set to play Watson, so it's safe to say CBS is going in a radically different direction with Elementary. Another change? The detective duo will now live in New York City.

The show follows Holmes fresh out of rehab and living with his sober companion Joan Watson, who is a former surgeon who lost her license after a patient died.

Elementary comes from Medium's Rob Doherty, Homeland's Michael Cuesta (who will direct the pilot), Sarah Timberman and Carl Beverly.

Liu is currently starring as Officer Jessica Tang on TNT's Southland and previously starred on Cashmere Mafia, Dirty Sexy Money and Ally McBeal.

http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/lucy_liu_star_in_cbs_sherlock_holmes/297299

The concept kind of reminds me of "The Seven Percent Solution", a movie I love, and that everyone else I know either has never seen, or thinks is awful.

JTContinental
02-28-2012, 01:14 PM
Jonny Lee Miller...hubba hubba

I've had a feeling that they were going to kill off Lucy Liu in Southland all season, and that adds some fuel to my paranoia.

Jay
02-28-2012, 02:08 PM
I think it sounds awful :p

But I'll wait to judge properly

Ti-Amie
02-28-2012, 02:27 PM
Benedict Cumberbatch's interpretation is so vibrant and modern I don't know how this show is going to do. I wonder if the casting of Lucy Liu will turn out to be a gimmick?

The fact that it's on American network television doesn't give me a warm fuzzy either. Showtime or HBO would be different.

Jay
02-28-2012, 02:31 PM
Benedict Cumberbatch's interpretation is so vibrant and modern I don't know how this show is going to do. I wonder if the casting of Lucy Liu will turn out to be a gimmick?

The fact that it's on American network television doesn't give me a warm fuzzy either. Showtime or HBO would be different.

Cumberbatch's interpretation is probably contributing to my reaction, tbh lol

I think casting Lucy Liu as Watson probably means that there will most likely be a Watson-Holmes hookup at some point :p

Ti-Amie
02-28-2012, 02:38 PM
Cumberbatch's interpretation is probably contributing to my reaction, tbh lol

I think casting Lucy Liu as Watson probably means that there will most likely be a Watson-Holmes hookup at some point :p

::Sigh::

You are probably right.:rolleyes:

tobiasfunke
02-28-2012, 11:55 PM
Cumberbatch's interpretation is probably contributing to my reaction, tbh lol

I think casting Lucy Liu as Watson probably means that there will most likely be a Watson-Holmes hookup at some point :p
Totally! They're taking away the homoerotic Watson-Holmes tension that we all love.

Edmond Dantčs
03-02-2012, 07:34 PM
Cumberbatch's interpretation is probably contributing to my reaction, tbh lol

I think casting Lucy Liu as Watson probably means that there will most likely be a Watson-Holmes hookup at some point :pI don't know. Will they/won't they is an under-explored theme in pop culture. And if there's one thing we needed, it's another take on Sherlock Holmes...must be at least a week or so since I had some of that :)

Funny thing is, last year Jonny Lee Miller and Benedict Cumberbatch appeared together in the stage version of Frankenstein. They alternated their roles as Dr Frankenstein and the monster.

Good to see so many of you aboard the Cumberbatch Express these days ;)

::

A show I do have some expectations for is 'Veep' on HBO. It's a comedy with Julia Louis-Dreyfus in that rather odd role of Vice President of the US.

Here's the trailer
soJggb_jDL8

Ti-Amie
03-02-2012, 09:20 PM
Alex O'Loughlin, star of CBS' Hawaii Five-0 reboot, will miss at least one episode of the show's sophomore season in order to seek treatment, TVGuide.com has confirmed.

"Alex is taking a short break from Hawaii Five-0 to receive supervised treatment for prescription pain medication due to a recent shoulder injury," said a rep for the actor, who plays H50 leader Steve McGarrett.

Production on the series, which is currently shooting Episode 20, will continue as planned and will complete its production order for the season. "We respect and support Alex's decision," CBS said in a statement. "Everyone at CBS Television Studios and Hawaii Five-0 wishes him well and we look forward to his return."


http://www.tvguide.com/News/Alex-OLoughlin-Hawaii-Five-0-Treatment-1044408.aspx

Kirkus
03-03-2012, 09:08 AM
"supervised treatment for prescription pain medication"

I don't even know what that means. Is it drug rehab?

Ti-Amie
03-03-2012, 09:36 AM
I stopped watching earlier this season so when I saw a trailer for the next episode I was shocked at his appearance. He looks so gaunt and thin. Not TV thin but unhealthy thin.

Kirkus
03-03-2012, 09:39 AM
I stopped watching earlier this season so when I saw a trailer for the next episode I was shocked at his appearance. He looks so gaunt and thin. Not TV thin but unhealthy thin.
Oh wow. I haven't seen it since the middle of the first season. I'll have to check it out.

shtexas
03-05-2012, 10:20 AM
I stopped watching earlier this season so when I saw a trailer for the next episode I was shocked at his appearance. He looks so gaunt and thin. Not TV thin but unhealthy thin.


Oh wow. I haven't seen it since the middle of the first season. I'll have to check it out.

Maybe because I've been watching all along (second season has been much better than the first), I really didn't notice. This really surprised me. The dude has his shirt off in every other episode. Looked like good muscle tone to me.

shtexas
03-05-2012, 12:10 PM
What's interesting is reading around the message boards, people have been asking why Alex looks so thin since last April. Wouldn't that be before the shoulder injury? If so, this problem might be a little more than they are letting on.

Ti-Amie
03-05-2012, 02:01 PM
What's interesting is reading around the message boards, people have been asking why Alex looks so thin since last April. Wouldn't that be before the shoulder injury? If so, this problem might be a little more than they are letting on.

:yes:

I was on TWOP and some were saying/implying that his addiction is not all that bad if he's only missing taping on one show. Someone had to explain that the danger of prescription painkillers is that dependence happens slowly. You're taking the prescribed dosage and next thing you know you're gulping them down. I went looking for trailers to post and found him in very few or if he was in them they shot him at odd angles and partially in shadow.

Ti-Amie
03-16-2012, 12:11 PM
Never saw the Real Housewives of Late Night until last night. Talk about laughing my butt off. Are those shows really like this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/03/real-housewives-of-late-night-visit-indianapolis_n_1252289.html

mmmm8
03-16-2012, 12:25 PM
Never saw the Real Housewives of Late Night until last night. Talk about laughing my butt off. Are those shows really like this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/03/real-housewives-of-late-night-visit-indianapolis_n_1252289.html


I really liked the "Real Housewives of Disney" SNL sketch a couple weeks ago...

Ti-Amie
03-16-2012, 12:55 PM
I really liked the "Real Housewives of Disney" SNL sketch a couple weeks ago...

I still haven't seen that.

shtexas
03-16-2012, 01:06 PM
CBS has gone ahead and renewed the bulk of its lineup. The shows not on the below list still may be renewed but seem more likely headed for cancellation.

SITCOMS
2 Broke Girls
The Big Bang Theory
How I Met Your Mother
Mike & Molly

DRAMAS
Blue Bloods
Criminal Minds
CSI
The Good Wife
Hawaii Five-0
The Mentalist
NCIS
NCIS: Los Angeles
Person of Interest

NEWS/REALITY
48 Hours Mystery
60 Minutes
The Amazing Race
Survivor
Undercover Boss


Read more: http://www.tvfanatic.com/2012/03/cbs-announces-large-scale-renewal-for-2012-2013-season/#ixzz1pJPn6F1X

shtexas
03-16-2012, 01:12 PM
FYI: Two & A Half Men will be back. They just haven't worked out the deal yet.

Jay
03-16-2012, 08:23 PM
I still haven't seen that.
You should watch it! It's only a few minutes long, but it's pretty funny.

My favourite line was "Here comes midnight, bitch!" :p

The real Housewives of Late Night is amusing too.

shtexas
03-27-2012, 08:36 PM
Love the TV Fan Excuse Bingo card:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/03/30/the-tv-fan-excuse-bingo-card/87187/

Moose
03-29-2012, 01:02 PM
The promo release for the upcoming reboot of Dallas - I'm sorry, but Larry Hagman is 80, and Linda Gray is 72, and this Photoshopping job is just absurd.

And the actor playing their son looks like he just finished filming an action scene with the Visconti Triplets.

http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2012/03/28/28_dallasmain.o.jpg/a_610x408.jpg


(To be honest, I'll still tune in for at least the first episode. I LOVED the original until aobut Season 7).

dryrunguy
03-29-2012, 01:07 PM
What a relief to know that it's not going to be just another television program selling sex!!!! Whew!!!!

Ti-Amie
03-29-2012, 01:11 PM
What a relief to know that it's not going to be just another television program selling sex!!!! Whew!!!!

:cheesy:

omess
04-01-2012, 03:04 PM
Game of Thrones tonight !!!!!!!!!!

dryrunguy
04-01-2012, 05:19 PM
Game of Thrones tonight !!!!!!!!!!

Love the show! I've only seen about 4 or 5 episodes from the first season and I'm pretty sure I watched them out of order. But I really like it and totally stoked for Season 2!

tobiasfunke
04-01-2012, 05:27 PM
Game of Thrones tonight !!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a little excited, yeah.

JTContinental
04-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Mad Men, The Killing, Game of Thrones--my DVR is gettting a workout on Sundays.

Ti-Amie
04-02-2012, 06:13 AM
"Shameless" finished it's season last night. I can't believe some didn't want Emmy Rossum to play Fiona feeling she didn't have the chops. There are people already saying "And Emmy for Emmy". She deserves a nod but since the show is on Showtime I doubt that she'll get one.

As for William H. Macy to play such a thoroughly depraved character as Frank Gallagher is just so out of the box for him it's amazing. Again due to where the show is aired it might not get any nominations.

The most stunning and riveting performance came from Chloe Webb who played Monica Gallagher, Frank's bisexual, bi-polar, never met a drug I don't like estranged wife. Webb brought her character from manic to suicide attempt with a seamless performance. The kids had worked all kinds of jobs/cons to get the money for winter, their squirrel fund, and Monica stole it, called Frank and they went on a drug binge that ended in her crashing and suicide attempt. Again an Emmy nod should be given but again I doubt it.

This, in my opinion, is how an originally British show should be adapted for an American audience. Story lines have been changed and characters adapted to be American not carbon copies of their British originals.

When the episode/s end you are emotionally drained but awed by the stellar performance of all of the cast members.

Moose
04-02-2012, 07:33 AM
"Shameless" finished it's season last night. I can't believe some didn't want Emmy Rossum to play Fiona feeling she didn't have the chops. There are people already saying "And Emmy for Emmy". She deserves a nod but since the show is on Showtime I doubt that she'll get one.

As for William H. Macy to play such a thoroughly depraved character as Frank Gallagher is just so out of the box for him it's amazing. Again due to where the show is aired it might not get any nominations.

The most stunning and riveting performance came from Chloe Webb who played Monica Gallagher, Frank's bisexual, bi-polar, never met a drug I don't like estranged wife. Webb brought her character from manic to suicide attempt with a seamless performance. The kids had worked all kinds of jobs/cons to get the money for winter, their squirrel fund, and Monica stole it, called Frank and they went on a drug binge that ended in her crashing and suicide attempt. Again an Emmy nod should be given but again I doubt it.

This, in my opinion, is how an originally British show should be adapted for an American audience. Story lines have been changed and characters adapted to be American not carbon copies of their British originals.

When the episode/s end you are emotionally drained but awed by the stellar performance of all of the cast members.

Chloe Webb is a fantastic actress, whose voice probably sabotaged her career. But she's incredible in "Sid and Nancy", and her story arc on "China Beach" was sensational.

Ti-Amie
04-02-2012, 08:02 AM
Too bad Webb was never on my radar until now. She and Macy made themselves into the poster children for destructive behavior. Their scenes together left you begging for more.

Moose
04-02-2012, 08:20 AM
Too bad Webb was never on my radar until now. She and Macy made themselves into the poster children for destructive behavior. Their scenes together left you begging for more.

She excels at destructive behavior. Her portrayal of Nancy Spungen was devastating. Which was exactly what the role required.

Ti-Amie
04-03-2012, 02:49 PM
These are the women Vanity Fair says we all tune in to watch.

http://i.imgur.com/pneuk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jPBdV.jpg

shtexas
04-03-2012, 03:16 PM
Kerry Washington's show hasn't even started yet.

Ti-Amie
04-03-2012, 03:21 PM
Kerry Washington's show hasn't even started yet.

I thought that too...weird she's there.

Drop-shot
04-03-2012, 07:18 PM
Anyone know why GOT Ep 2 is already available? Shouldn't it air on Sunday?

Moose
04-04-2012, 06:04 AM
These are the women Vanity Fair says we all tune in to watch.


I love Michelle Dockery, and she's sexy as all get out in full view, but I don't know if it is the angle of the photograph or way too much Photoshopping, but it looks like her head was placed on top of a teen age girl with anorexia in that photo.

Ti-Amie
04-04-2012, 08:06 AM
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/04/03/0403-dan-harmon-getty-bn-1.jpg

"Community" creator Dan Harmon says he's a "selfish baby and a rude a**hole" for playing Chevy Chase's voice mail in public ... and has issued a full-fledged apology calling the move, "childish, self-obsessed, unaware, naive and unprofessional."

Harmon just posted a statement on his blog titled, "Not That It Helps, But:" ... in which he admits to playing the tape for an audience of 150 strangers at an L.A. comedy club ... because he thought it would be funny.

"I was airing my dirty laundry for a chuckle."

But Harmon says he deeply regrets his decision ... explaining, "The giant mistake I made was involving someone else [Chevy] in that game of Russian roulette, someone that didn’t have an opportunity to say 'yeah, hilarious, let’s do this.'"

Harmon continues, "That was a dumb, unclassy, inconsiderate move on my part. I’m very sorry it’s reflecting poorly on the show.

Harmon says he's been paying attention to all of the critics who have been bashing him on Twitter ... and says, "Thirty people a day calling me an a**hole makes me know and feel, in my heart, that I am an a**hole. I’m a real “customer is always right” kind of guy in that regard."

We reached out to Chevy to see if he accepts the apology -- so far, no word back.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/03/community-dan-harmon-apology-chevy-chase/#.T3xi6lFvm-C

mmmm8
04-04-2012, 09:47 AM
Anyone think this is all a publicity stunt to keep the show on air?

JTContinental
04-04-2012, 11:56 AM
Kerry Washington's show hasn't even started yet.

Perhaps she brought the alcohol...

mmmm8
04-04-2012, 01:06 PM
This is exactly how my friends and I dress on girls' nights in. There are also lots of pillow fights...

Moose
04-05-2012, 07:09 AM
A number of sites are reporting that Kristen Wiig, Andy Samberg, and Jason Sudeikas are all leaving SNL at the end of the season, though Wiig and Samberg are both denying it.

mwoods
04-05-2012, 11:46 AM
A number of sites are reporting that Kristen Wiig, Andy Samberg, and Jason Sudeikas are all leaving SNL at the end of the season, though Wiig and Samberg are both denying it.

It seems like it would be about that time for all of them, but even more so for Fred Armison and Kenan Thompson.

JTContinental
04-05-2012, 12:44 PM
That will be a huge hit for that cast to absorb, especially since there are currently exactly two funny women in the cast (Wiig and Vanessa Bayer).

mwoods
04-05-2012, 01:09 PM
That will be a huge hit for that cast to absorb, especially since there are currently exactly two funny women in the cast (Wiig and Vanessa Bayer).

:yes: They're mighty lucky to have Taran Killam on the men's side. He's the new "everyman" who can play almost anything and completely own a sketch (much like Will Ferrell was, though that's a lot to live up to).

mwoods
04-05-2012, 01:10 PM
That will be a huge hit for that cast to absorb, especially since there are currently exactly two funny women in the cast (Wiig and Vanessa Bayer).

Also, I'm baffled that Abby Elliott is still around, and though I find Nasim Pedrad hilarious in the right characters (like the girl who loves her parents), she hasn't come up with a new one in years.

mmmm8
04-05-2012, 08:19 PM
Also, I'm baffled that Abby Elliott is still around, and though I find Nasim Pedrad hilarious in the right characters (like the girl who loves her parents), she hasn't come up with a new one in years.

Legacy...

I think it's weird they didn't hire more women after getting rid of Jenny Slate.

ptmcmahon
04-05-2012, 08:35 PM
Anyone know why GOT Ep 2 is already available? Shouldn't it air on Sunday?

Didn't they do that last year too...one episode ahead available online?

Ti-Amie
04-05-2012, 08:53 PM
For "Community" fans:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m21bvuyF5U1qazkdco1_500.jpg

tobiasfunke
04-05-2012, 10:53 PM
Legacy...

I think it's weird they didn't hire more women after getting rid of Jenny Slate.
Kate McKinnon is making her debut this weekend.

She was in one of my favorite wedseries of last year (the blonde one)
OfbdVOQDxPI

mmmm8
04-06-2012, 06:35 AM
Kate McKinnon is making her debut this weekend.

She was in one of my favorite wedseries of last year (the blonde one)
OfbdVOQDxPI


Oh my God, I know her! She was a friend of a friend in college, and landed the Big Gay Sketch Show on Logo after graduation, but I hadn´t heard of her since. I saw her in improv a couple times in college. She´s great!

tobiasfunke
04-06-2012, 03:39 PM
Oh my God, I know her! She was a friend of a friend in college, and landed the Big Gay Sketch Show on Logo after graduation, but I hadn´t heard of her since. I saw her in improv a couple times in college. She´s great!
:thumbsup:

I had forgotten about the Big Gay Sketch Show. Then I remembered... she was FITZWILLIAM! Hilarious.

mmmm8
04-06-2012, 03:53 PM
:thumbsup:

I had forgotten about the Big Gay Sketch Show. Then I remembered... she was FITZWILLIAM! Hilarious.

I only actually watched the first episode...

Incidentally, Jenny Slate went to Columbia, too, at the same time, but I have no recollection of her.

shtexas
04-09-2012, 09:02 AM
So, I'm at an Easter thing yesterday and there was a guy there who I had seen before at one of these occasions - maybe Thanksgiving a few years back. I knew he was a model. But, his mother shows me a picture on her phone of him with Simon Baker. I asked where he met him and she asked if I ever watched The Mentalist. I said every week. :o Anyway, she asks whether I saw this last Thursday's episode with the high school student having an affair with his teacher. I looked over at him, and OMG, he was the high school student. I was pretty impressed.

Kirkus
04-09-2012, 09:09 PM
So, I'm at an Easter thing yesterday and there was a guy there who I had seen before at one of these occasions - maybe Thanksgiving a few years back. I knew he was a model. But, his mother shows me a picture on her phone of him with Simon Baker. I asked where he met him and she asked if I ever watched The Mentalist. I said every week. :o Anyway, she asks whether I saw this last Thursday's episode with the high school student having an affair with his teacher. I looked over at him, and OMG, he was the high school student. I was pretty impressed.
Wow! I want to go to the Holiday things you go to. :cheesy:

Kirkus
04-09-2012, 09:16 PM
What have they done to "Bones"? It's going downhill faster than Ben Roethlisberger's zipper.

It's just gotten so, so... bad.

shtexas
04-09-2012, 09:34 PM
What have they done to "Bones"? It's going downhill faster than Ben Roethlisberger's zipper.

It's just gotten so, so... bad.

It has been renewed. But, I have a feeling next season will be its last.

Meanwhile, tonight H5O aired the episode taped without Alex O'Loughlin. It focused on Masi Oka's Max. About time.

shtexas
04-10-2012, 05:10 PM
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/04/03/0403-dan-harmon-getty-bn-1.jpg

"Community" creator Dan Harmon says he's a "selfish baby and a rude a**hole" for playing Chevy Chase's voice mail in public ... and has issued a full-fledged apology calling the move, "childish, self-obsessed, unaware, naive and unprofessional."

Harmon just posted a statement on his blog titled, "Not That It Helps, But:" ... in which he admits to playing the tape for an audience of 150 strangers at an L.A. comedy club ... because he thought it would be funny.

"I was airing my dirty laundry for a chuckle."

But Harmon says he deeply regrets his decision ... explaining, "The giant mistake I made was involving someone else [Chevy] in that game of Russian roulette, someone that didn’t have an opportunity to say 'yeah, hilarious, let’s do this.'"

Harmon continues, "That was a dumb, unclassy, inconsiderate move on my part. I’m very sorry it’s reflecting poorly on the show.

Harmon says he's been paying attention to all of the critics who have been bashing him on Twitter ... and says, "Thirty people a day calling me an a**hole makes me know and feel, in my heart, that I am an a**hole. I’m a real “customer is always right” kind of guy in that regard."

We reached out to Chevy to see if he accepts the apology -- so far, no word back.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/03/community-dan-harmon-apology-chevy-chase/#.T3xi6lFvm-C


Anyone think this is all a publicity stunt to keep the show on air?

Now, with today's release of a Chevy Chase rant making its way around the entertainment/tabloid shows, I am beginning to agree with you.

Omegadoom
04-11-2012, 01:44 AM
What have they done to "Bones"? It's going downhill faster than Ben Roethlisberger's zipper.

It's just gotten so, so... bad.



Hey, Hey, Hey! ;)

Moose
04-11-2012, 05:39 AM
I'm looking forward to the preview of "Don't Trust The B in Apt. 23" tonight. The early reviews have been strong, and they say both Krysten Ritter and James Van Der Beek are both very good.

I think the last half hour sitcom that I loved was "Frasier". There has been stuff since that made me laugh, but nothing that I go out of my way to watch.

Ti-Amie
04-11-2012, 05:42 AM
Kirk I liked "Bones" this week. It got into territory that is kind of new for the show - the Michelle/Finn/Cam situation - and showed how hard it is for real as opposed to mythical working mothers.

Extreme couponing. This was like the fuzzies episode of CSI awhile back. Left me shaking my head.

Kirkus
04-11-2012, 09:21 AM
Hey, Hey, Hey! ;)
:cheesy:

Ti-Amie
04-12-2012, 07:55 PM
Forbes magazine, ostensibly a business and finance magazine, nevertheless loves to calculate profits for tv shows, movie, and celebrities because they’re not dumb: They know it’s the only time the Internet actually pays attention to the publication. Their latest? Ranking the 10 Most Profitable TV Shows, based on the amount of ad revenue each show generates per half hour. None of it is particularly surprising, except for number nine: “Mad Love.” That show — which starred Jason Biggs, Judy Greer, Sarah Chalke, and Tyler Labine — was actually cancelled last May, but because of its time slot (between “How I Met Your Mother” and “Two and a Half Men”), it was able to generate a large amount of ad revenue (ironically, “How I Met Your Mother” is not actually among the top ten).

The list basically tells you exactly why television is chock full of reality television, and why certain shows remain on the schedule despite having run their course creatively years ago. I would guess, also, that the list only includes the 2010-2011 season, otherwise I would imagine “The Voice” would be included on the top ten. As it is, and unsurprisingly, NBC has zero shows on the list.

Here are TV’s 10 Most Profitable Shows.

1. “American Idol” ($6.64 million per half hour)
2. “The X-Factor” ($5.5 million per half hour)
3. “Two and a Half Men” ($3.24 million per half hour)
4. “Glee” ($2.8 million per half hour)
5. “Grey’s Anatomy” ($2.75 million per half hour)
6. “Dancing with the Stars” ($2.72 million per half hour)
7. “Desperate Housewives” ($2.61 million per half hour)
8. “Big Bang Theory” ($2.75 million per half hour)
9. “Mad Love” ($2.59 million per half hour)
10. “Modern Family” ($2.13 million per half hour)

http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2012/04/tvs-10-most-profitable-shows-include-all-the-shows-you-hate

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mfl45jigd/tvs-top-moneymakers/#gallerycontent

Scotty
04-19-2012, 08:04 PM
thanks to tonight's episode "Community" episode, I will NEVER again forget the order for

Kingdom
Phylum
Class
Order
Family
Genus
Species

Ti-Amie
04-19-2012, 09:10 PM
thanks to tonight's episode "Community" episode, I will NEVER again forget the order for

Kingdom
Phylum
Class
Order
Family
Genus
Species

:cheesy:

mmmm8
04-20-2012, 03:27 PM
thanks to tonight's episode "Community" episode, I will NEVER again forget the order for

Kingdom
Phylum
Class
Order
Family
Genus
Species


If only it were around when I was in middle school

Ti-Amie
04-21-2012, 10:59 AM
For Will and Grace fans...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2bl0j51qS1rsd9coo1_500.gif

Kirkus
04-22-2012, 09:16 PM
Did anyone see HBO's "Veep" with Julia Louise Dreyfus? I really liked it. I LOL'd a number of times. And I love her.

mmmm8
04-22-2012, 09:53 PM
Did anyone see HBO's "Veep" with Julia Louise Dreyfus? I really liked it. I LOL'd a number of times. And I love her.

I don't have HBO but am planning to watch it online. When I realized it was from Armando Iannucci (who wrote In the Loop), I knew I had to watch, if only to learn new cusswords

Kirkus
04-22-2012, 10:00 PM
I don't have HBO but am planning to watch it online. When I realized it was from Armando Iannucci (who wrote In the Loop), I knew I had to watch, if only to learn new cusswords
LOL.

I've never hear of Armando Ianucci (or In the Loop for that matter), but if this is indicative of his other stuff, I'd be a fan. Really quite funny and smart.

Ti-Amie
04-23-2012, 08:42 AM
From the Simpson's

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2xqprevxU1qz8vumo1_500.jpg

via PopCultureBrain on Tumblr.

Kirkus
04-23-2012, 09:15 AM
LOL.

Ti-Amie
04-23-2012, 08:03 PM
“The Wire” casts a long shadow. Whether or not you consider it the greatest show ever made, there’s no denying that it’s one of the biggest and best shows ever created. (We ranked its second season as one of the best TV seasons of the past quarter century.) As such, a number of currently airing shows owe David Simon’s epic a debt of gratitude, from story ideas to character treatments. Check it:

“Breaking Bad”: A Man Must Have a Code
“Game of Thrones”: You Come at the King, You Best Not Miss
“Downton Abbey”: If You With Us, You With Us
“Sons Of Anarchy”: Game’s the Same, Just Got More Fierce
“Homeland”: The Bigger the Lie, the More They Believe
“Justified”: We Got Our Thing, But It’s Just Part of the Big Thing

Details at the link.

http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/way-down-in-the-hole-6-great-dramas-that-owe-a-debt-to-the-wire.php

Kirkus
04-23-2012, 08:37 PM
soJggb_jDL8

Kirkus
04-23-2012, 08:41 PM
ssBP2UCaNHE

Ti-Amie
04-30-2012, 11:28 AM
Were you planning on cutting the cord on your cable as soon as Hulu signed a few more content deals and let you watch your favorite shows the day after they aired? Think again. The New York Post reports that Fox is starting talks with Hulu that would require users to prove that they already subscribe to cable in order to get access to its content. The authentication system would likely work the same way: users would log in to Hulu with their cable company logins, rather than with a Hulu ID. Fox is already somewhat more restrictive about its content than the other major networks (with the exception of CBS, which puts almost none of its content on Hulu and declines to stream many episodes at all). Currently, you have to have Hulu Plus to stream Fox shows the day after they air. Otherwise, you have to wait a full week to watch the shows supported only by ads.

It makes sense that now is the time Fox would strike. Hulu (and Netflix as well) are early in their efforts to create original content. And while those companies say publicly that their original shows are meeting their expectations, they haven’t been precisely clear about what those expectations were, or whether that means they’re even close to garnering network-level (or even cable-style) audiences for that programming. They’re nowhere near close to telling the television networks to shove it, so Fox is striking in what it sees as one of a few remaining moments of opportunity, especially because it wants to make sure it can retain the cash to pay its retransmission fees. The cable companies need to hang on to their subscribers both to ensure their own profits, and to meet their own outside demands. Until retransmission fees are out of the equation, it’s hard to imagine that this model is going to change dramatically.

http://thinkprogress.org/alyssa/2012/04/30/473753/hulu-to-become-more-like-hbo-go-move-to-authentication-model/

luvs10s
04-30-2012, 03:40 PM
Did anyone see HBO's "Veep" with Julia Louise Dreyfus? I really liked it. I LOL'd a number of times. And I love her.

Saw the trailer for this the other day. hubbyluvs thought it looked great and plans to watch I think. I wasn't so fussed.

We have just subscribed to the SoHo channel (http://www.skytv.co.nz/soho/#i=Game-of-Thrones)(part of our Sky package) and it means we get US shows with a couple of weeks of them screening there.

Ti-Amie
05-01-2012, 12:19 PM
Apocalypse now? TV Guide Magazine confirms that Netflix has approached CBS about reviving cult fave Jericho — and the network, through its CBS TV Studios production arm, is considering it. The drama, which followed the residents of a small Kansas town in the wake of a nuclear attack, has been off the air since 2008.

Repeats of Jericho remain popular on Netflix's on-demand service, even four years after the show's cancellation. Insiders say Netflix execs would love to emulate the revival of Fox's Arrested Development, which is expected to return on Netflix with new episodes in 2013, seven years after the show ended its run. Like Arrested fans, Jericho's are a passionate bunch: CBS renewed the post-apocalyptic show for a second season in 2007 after viewers bombarded the network with cases of peanuts.

Talks are still in preliminary stages, and insiders warn that it's too soon to celebrate, as there are still many hurdles to overcome before a deal is struck. Making it financially viable for both Netflix and CBS may be the biggest challenge of them all. It's unclear how much more original programming makes sense for Netflix, which is already committed to two seasons of the original Kevin Spacey drama House of Cards (from David Fincher) in addition to Arrested. Also, due to concerns over its subscriber levels, Netflix has seen its share price drop more than 25 percent in the past month.

Before a third season of Jericho can happen, rounding up the stars and exec producers, many of whom are working on other projects, will take time. Past attempts at a Jericho return haven't panned out, such as stalled talks with Comcast to continue Jericho in a fashion similar to Friday Night Lights. Executive producer Jon Turteltaub said in 2009 that he was developing a movie, but that also didn't go anywhere. So far, only Jericho comic books have made it to production (a new edition hits stands this summer).

But never say die: Attempts at a Jericho revival mirrors the "it's happening/it's not happening" dance that Arrested Development fans have experienced over the years, but that's on the cusp of finally coming true. Other series resurrected from the dead in recent years include Family Guy and Futurama. And at least some of the cast could conceivably be available: Star Skeet Ulrich was last seen on NBC's Law & Order: L.A., while Lennie James was on The Prisoner, Hung and the series opener to The Walking Dead (although he's currently in the ABC pilot Gotham).

Netflix has shown that it will open up the pocketbook for something it really wants. Arrested Development seemed on course to land at Showtime, until the streaming service swooped in and nabbed the cult fave comedy. In the case of Jericho, even CBS boss Leslie Moonves has hinted that it's a possibility. In February, Moonves revealed at an investor conference that CBS was in discussions with Netflix about potentially doing a show together — and yes, it's believed he was referring to Jericho. CBS declined comment.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Exclusive-Netflix-Jericho-1046804.aspx

JTContinental
05-06-2012, 11:37 AM
Eli Manning was pretty good on SNL last night...not the best actor, but he was a good sport with the material they gave him, which counts for something.

Rihanna seems to really want people to know that she has a vagina.

nelslus
05-06-2012, 01:52 PM
Rihanna seems to really want people to know that she has a vagina.

.....WELL, to be fair, I'm still not convinced. :gorgeous:

JTContinental
05-06-2012, 02:26 PM
.....WELL, to be fair, I'm still not convinced. :gorgeous:

She kept fanning it like it was on fire. I guess it could have been an uncomfortable tuck... :cheesy:

mmmm8
05-06-2012, 04:38 PM
Eli Manning was pretty good on SNL last night...not the best actor, but he was a good sport with the material they gave him, which counts for something.

Rihanna seems to really want people to know that she has a vagina.

Also, it's apparently very flat, because you can bang on it like a drum.

Agreed on Eli Manning being a good sport and midwesternly charming.

ptmcmahon
05-06-2012, 06:19 PM
New Orleans/Mississippi/New York are mid-western? :)

mmmm8
05-06-2012, 09:51 PM
New Orleans/Mississippi/New York are mid-western? :)

You mean New Orleans/Mississippi/New Jersey ;)

No, but his appeal is, to me at least.

Miles
05-06-2012, 10:09 PM
Here is some utter randomness to the Eli discussion. My sister and his wife share a pediatrician. At thirteen months, Eli's daughter is the largest (by both height and weight) the pediatrician has ever seen. You can google a pic of the chubster, Eli had her with him during the Super Bowl trophy presentation. The kid was only 10 months back then.

Ti-Amie
06-05-2012, 07:53 PM
Critics Choice Awards Nominees

BEST COMEDY SERIES

The Big Bang Theory
Community
Girls
Modern Family
New Girl
Parks and Recreation

BEST ACTOR IN A COMEDY SERIES

Don Cheadle (House of Lies)
Louis C.K. (Louie)
Larry David (Curb Your Enthusiasm)
Garret Dillahunt (Raising Hope)
Joel McHale (Community)
Jim Parsons (The Big Bang Theory)

BEST ACTRESS IN A COMEDY SERIES

Zooey Deschanel (New Girl)
Lena Dunham (Girls)
Julia Louis Dreyfus (Veep)
Martha Plimpton (Raising Hope)
Amy Poehler (Parks and Recreation)
Ashley Rickards (Awkward)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A COMEDY SERIES

Ty Burrell (Modern Family)
Max Greenfield (New Girl)
Nick Offerman (Parks and Recreation)
Danny Pudi (Community)
Jim Rash (Community)
Damon Wayans Jr. (Happy Endings)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A COMEDY

Julie Bowen (Modern Family)
Alison Brie (Community)
Cheryl Hines (Suburgatory)
Gillian Jacobs (Community)
Eden Sher (The Middle)
Casey Wilson (Happy Endings)

BEST GUEST PERFORMER IN A COMEDY SERIES

Becky Ann Baker (Girls)
Bobby Cannavale (Modern Family)
Kathryn Hahn (Parks and Recreation)
Justin Long (New Girl)
Paul Rudd (Parks and Recreation)
Peter Scolari (Girls)

BEST DRAMA SERIES

Breaking Bad
Downton Abbey
Game of Thrones
The Good Wife
Homeland
Mad Men

BEST ACTOR IN A DRAMA SERIES

Bryan Cranston (Breaking Bad)
Kelsey Grammer (Boss)
Jon Hamm (Mad Men)
Charlie Hunnam (Sons of Anarchy)
Damian Lewis (Homeland)
Timothy Olyphant (Justified)

BEST ACTRESS IN A DRAMA SERIES

Claire Danes (Homeland)
Michelle Dockery (Downton Abbey)
Julianna Margulies (The Good Wife)
Elisabeth Moss (Mad Men)
Emmy Rossum (Shameless)
Katey Sagal (Sons of Anarchy)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A DRAMA SERIES

Peter Dinklage (Game of Thrones)
Giancarlo Esposito (Breaking Bad)
Neal McDonough (Justified)
John Noble (Fringe)
Aaron Paul (Breaking Bad)
John Slattery (Mad Men)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A DRAMA SERIES

Christine Baranski (The Good Wife)
Anna Gunn (Breaking Bad)
Christina Hendricks (Mad Men)
Regina King (Southland)
Kelly Macdonald (Boardwalk Empire)
Maggie Siff (Sons of Anarchy)

BEST GUEST PERFORMER IN A DRAMA SERIES

Dylan Baker (Damages)
Jere Burns (Justified)
Loretta Devine (Grey’s Anatomy)
Lucy Liu (Southland)
Carrie Preston (The Good Wife)
Chloe Webb (Shameless)

BEST MOVIE/MINISERIES

American Horror Story
Luther
Sherlock
Page Eight
The Hour
Game Change

BEST ACTOR IN A MOVIE/MINISERIES

Benedict Cumberbatch (Sherlock)
Bill Nighy (Page Eight)
Woody Harrelson (Game Change)
Idris Elba (Luther)
Dominic West (The Hour)
Kevin Costner (Hatfields & McCoys)

BEST ACTRESS IN A MOVIE/MINISERIES

Jessica Lange (American Horror Story)
Gillian Anderson (Great Expectations)
Julianne Moore (Game Change)
Patricia Clarkson (Five)
Lara Pulver (Sherlock)
Emily Watson (Appropriate Adult)

BEST REALITY SERIES

Anthony Bourdain: No Reservations
Hoarders
Sister Wives
Kitchen Nightmares
Pawn Stars
Undercover Boss

BEST REALITY SERIES — COMPETITION

The Pitch
Shark Tank
So You Think You Can Dance
The Voice
Chopped
The Amazing Race

BEST REALITY SHOW HOST

Tom Bergeron (Dancing with the Stars)
Nick Cannon (America’s Got Talent)
Cat Deeley (So You Think You Can Dance)
Phil Keoghan (The Amazing Race)
RuPaul (RuPaul’s Drag Race)

BEST TALK SHOW

Conan
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart
Late Night with Jimmy Fallon
Jimmy Kimmel Live!
The View

BEST ANIMATED SERIES

Archer
Adventure Time
Bob’s Burgers
Family Guy
Star Wars: The Clone Wars

Ti-Amie
06-05-2012, 07:58 PM
There are so many good shows and good actors nominated I don't even know what to say. So glad to see "Sons of Anarchy" getting some recognition.

Neal McDonough was awesome as a hitman descending into madness and hung out to dry in "Justified". Of course I'm glad to see Timothy Olyphant nominated for best actor.

"Luther" vs "Sherlock"? John Noble being recognized for his work in "Fringe".

I watch every one of the nominated animation shows except "Star Wars". I can't choose between them.

Great list of nominees.

JTContinental
06-05-2012, 10:14 PM
Get on the stick, critics. Zooey Deschanel cannot act.

mwoods
06-05-2012, 10:18 PM
Get on the stick, critics. Zooey Deschanel cannot act.

Sorry, can't hear you over the cutest ukelele music...

Jay
06-06-2012, 02:39 AM
Boo to Sofia Vergara not getting nominated!

And Zooey's "silly cutesy girl" schtick gets old after a while.

dryrunguy
06-06-2012, 08:45 AM
I'll certainly be rooting for Peter Dinklage!

shtexas
06-06-2012, 09:05 AM
Kinda odd that American Horror Story is considered a miniseries when it had the same number of episodes as the cable dramas.

Kirkus
06-06-2012, 09:33 AM
Get on the stick, critics. Zooey Deschanel cannot act.She really can't.

But "New Girl" makes me laugh. I really like the rest of the cast. Especially Max Greenfield.

And "Veep" has become must see TV for me.

shtexas
06-11-2012, 01:34 PM
Looking forward to next week's SyFy original movie.

Piranhaconda.

Lol...

dryrunguy
06-11-2012, 01:57 PM
Looking forward to next week's SyFy original movie.

Piranhaconda.

Lol...

When is it on?!?!?!?

shtexas
06-11-2012, 02:06 PM
When is it on?!?!?!?

Saturday night. 9 PM eastern. Repeat at 1 AM.

This last week was Jersey Shore Shark Attack.

munchin
06-11-2012, 02:15 PM
Looking forward to next week's SyFy original movie.

Piranhaconda.

Lol...

Please, please tell me you did not make that up!

shtexas
06-11-2012, 02:30 PM
Please, please tell me you did not make that up!

And you get master thespian Rachel Hunter too!

Moose
06-11-2012, 03:07 PM
This last week was Jersey Shore Shark Attack.

Did you stayed tuned for "MegaShark vs. Crocosaurus", which came on afterwards? Jaleel White was positively sublime.

Ti-Amie
06-12-2012, 02:48 PM
The Federal Communicatons Commission voted 5-0 to extend its "viewability rule" for six months.

The rule requires cable operators to ensure that all of their customers have access to local must-carry TV signals until Dec. 12.

The rule was slated to expire automatically Tuesday. Without it, cable’s analog TV subscribers will have to use digital-to-analog converter boxes to continue receiving broadcast TV must-carry signals.

The decision -- proposed by FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski -- comes as a victory for cable operators, but a defeat for small independent and foreign-language broadcasters, who fear that without the rule they will lose a good percentage of their audiences.

Also read: FCC Chairman Proposes Eliminating Viewability Rule

About 12.6 million cable households are still equipped with analog sets -- out of a total 58 million cable subscribers. Unless those customers lease or buy digital-to-analog converter boxes from their cable operators, they may lose access over their cable systems to the must-carry signals.

Under the FCC decision announced Tuesday, the cable industry will be able to charge the millions of analog cable TV industry customers for the converters they will need to continue getting the must-carry signals.

An FCC spokeswoman told TheWrap that the agency is recommending that cable operators not charge "materially" more than $2 a month for the converters.

In the text of the FCC’s new rule, the agency also said that if "a significant number" of consumers complain about being overcharged by an operator, the FCC might require the operator to carry analog must-carry signals again.

“In reality, the operator can charge whatever it wants,” said Dennis Wharton, a spokesman for the National Association of Broadcasters, in response.

National Cable & Telecommunications Association President and CEO Michael Powell commended the FCC "for the adoption of a forward-looking, pro-consumer order that will promote the deployment of faster broadband and the expansion of new and exciting digital services."

"With the majority of all households now enjoying digital services, the cable industry will maximize its bandwidth to provide innovative services that connect consumers to things they care about most," he added in his statement. "And while some customers have yet to make the transition to digital, cable providers will continue to work hard to make that conversion as smooth as possible.”

The viewability rule was adopted by the FCC in 2007 so that that millions of cable TV subscribers with analog TV sets could continue receiving must-carry TV stations signals after the broadcast TV industry switched from analog to digital transmission.

The rule has required cable operators to either retransmit the must-carry signals in both analog and digital formats or to ensure that all subscribers have the equipment needed to view the signals on their TV sets.

Also read: It's Christians vs. Tea Party on TV's Must-Carry Rule

The FCC originally set a three-year limit on the rule, assuming most cable systems would also have switched to digital by now.

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/column-post/fcc-viewability-rules-43771

Kirkus
06-12-2012, 03:04 PM
I don't know what the cost is for cable companies to continue providing analog signals, but according to that article nearly 20% of all cable viewers would need the conversion boxes if the analog service was cut; be it now or in 6 months. That's an awful lot of people who would be forced to pony up more money for cable. Or purchase a new TV. And in this economy?

I'm not even sure if the FCC should be forcing something like this on the cable companies and cable users.

Ti-Amie
06-12-2012, 03:25 PM
I don't know what the cost is for cable companies to continue providing analog signals, but according to that article nearly 20% of all cable viewers would need the conversion boxes if the analog service was cut; be it now or in 6 months. That's an awful lot of people who would be forced to pony up more money for cable. Or purchase a new TV. And in this economy?

I'm not even sure if the FCC should be forcing something like this on the cable companies and cable users.

I'm concerned about older people and those on fixed income who can't easily afford a new television. This has always struck me as a ruse to force people to buy new televisions.

Scotty
06-13-2012, 01:12 PM
After reading the review on SFGate.com, I now kinda want to watch "Dallas." Critic really enjoyed it, saying Larry Hagman is a "revelation" as JR.

Review ended with this paragraph:


The female characters are especially elusive and underwritten, with the exception of [Brenda] Strong's Annie, who has her own secrets to hide. [Linda] Gray still can't act but seems to be relying on her raccoon-eyed makeup to ground her character. She's wearing so much eye shadow, you half expect her head to pop out of a garbage can somewhere along the way.

Can't wait for the Halloween episode.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/06/12/DDSA1P04OO.DTL&ao=2#ixzz1xhplk3Ri

Moose
06-13-2012, 01:17 PM
After reading the review on SFGate.com, I now kinda want to watch "Dallas." Critic really enjoyed it, saying Larry Hagman is a "revelation" as JR.

Review ended with this paragraph:




Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/06/12/DDSA1P04OO.DTL&ao=2#ixzz1xhplk3Ri

Haha. I just posted on it in the other Televesion Random Random thread.

Linda Gray's biggest contribution to acting was playing a hot drunk cougar. But she did it wonderfully.

Anyone else remember her first big TV gig?...predated Dallas by a couple of years, and was incredibly controversial at the time.

Moose
06-21-2012, 09:07 AM
NBC Prepares to Replace Ann Curry on ‘Today’
By BRIAN STELTER


NBC executives are making a plan to replace Ann Curry on the “Today” show, only a year after she became the co-host of the newly vulnerable morning television franchise.

The planning — which is taking place in secret and has not been completed — is effectively an admission that all is not well at “Today,” the show that invented morning television 60 years ago and inspired countless lower-rated competitors since. “Today” consistently ranked No. 1 in the morning ratings until this spring, when ABC’s “Good Morning America” beat it in the ratings for several weeks.

Even before then, some at NBC were openly criticizing the co-hosting style of Ms. Curry, 55, who succeeded Meredith Vieira last year, after spending 14 years on the show in a lesser role. Questions about her future have circled the broadcast for months, as some staff members have placed the blame for the ratings woes on Ms. Curry and others have defended her.

The questions have been debated at the highest levels of NBCUniversal because “Today” is a profit center for the network, bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising revenue each year.

Several weeks ago, network officials and Ms. Curry began to discuss a different job for her, according to people with knowledge of the negotiations, who insisted on anonymity because the matter was confidential. Those discussions have continued and are expected to be completed before NBC’s coverage of the Summer Olympics begins in late July.

Ms. Curry, who has not had a television agent for years, has hired a well-known lawyer, Robert B. Barnett, to represent her in the negotiations, according to these people. It is unclear whether she has explicitly agreed to any arrangement that NBC has offered her in lieu of “Today.” But several people who know Ms. Curry say that she has been struggling with the idea of leaving the show for some time.
“She got her dream job, and she doesn’t want to let it go,” one of the people said. But Ms. Curry has also expressed dissatisfaction with “Today,” where her journalistic interests sometimes clash with morning television realities. Accordingly, she may be moved into a foreign correspondent role, reflecting her strengths in reporting from disasters both political, like the ethnic killings in Darfur, and natural, like the 2010 earthquake in Haiti.

Mr. Barnett represented Christiane Amanpour last winter when she was moved off the ABC News program “This Week” and into a foreign correspondent role for the network as well as an anchor role for CNN. Ms. Amanpour’s title at ABC now is “global affairs anchor.” Mr. Barnett has also worked with a number of NBC anchors and correspondents in the past.

At NBC, information about the talks with Ms. Curry is being closely held by Jim Bell, the executive producer of “Today;” Steve Capus, the president of NBC News; and Steve Burke, the chief executive of NBCUniversal, which is controlled by Comcast. A spokeswoman for NBC News said the network declined to comment.

NBC, a network that has for two decades prided itself on smooth talent transitions — at least until its vituperative public breakup with Conan O’Brien in 2010 — has not determined who will replace Ms. Curry on “Today.” The person most often mentioned, and who most often fills in when Ms. Curry is away, is Savannah Guthrie, the co-host of the show’s 9 a.m. hour.

Ms. Vieira, who is now a special correspondent for NBC News, has also been mentioned, though she has told friends that she will not return to the “Today” show full-time. The show’s news anchor, Natalie Morales, could also step into the co-host role.

NBC executives are well aware that whoever is chosen to sit next to Mr. Lauer risks being criticized by Ms. Curry’s fans, a situation that played out 20 years ago when Jane Pauley was replaced by Deborah Norville — who in turn was soon replaced by Katie Couric.

The negotiations between NBC and Ms. Curry come at a time when “Today” is battling day by day with “G.M.A.,” the longtime runner-up in the morning TV race. “G.M.A” defeated “Today” for a week in April, ending a 16-year winning streak, and on several other weeks since; for the full season to date, though, “Today” still leads by about 400,000 viewers, and by a similar amount in the 25- to 54-year-old demographic that networks use to set ad rates.

Mr. Lauer has said that the ratings have put “Today” on notice. In early April, just before the win by “G.M.A.,” he renewed his contract at “Today,” putting to rest months of speculation about how badly the show would be damaged if he departed. Ms. Curry’s departure, similarly, could hurt “Today;” if viewers perceive that she was forced out, they may become alienated and literally turn it off as a result.

This concern, expressed repeatedly in the last six months, has slowed the process of replacing Ms. Curry, according to people at the network. But the process is now clearly under way, and executives in the television news industry believe that changes to Ms. Curry’s role on “Today” could be announced as early as next week.

The timing is delicate because in late July, NBC begins to broadcast the Summer Olympics; the “Today” show is part of the coverage, transplanting its studio to the host city.

“They feel real pressure to get it done by the Olympics,” one of the people with knowledge of the negotiations said. That way, “Today” can go to the Games with a complete, comfortable team of co-hosts. The Olympics-related shows typically get a big ratings bounce, just the sort of thing it needs to fend off “Good Morning America.”

Some at “G.M.A.” are happy to have the uncertainty about Ms. Curry linger, because they believe their show is benefiting from it. It is conventional wisdom in morning television that chemistry among hosts is a hugely important factor in viewers’ decisions about what to watch. It is also conventional wisdom that the “G.M.A.” cast now has the better chemistry.

Mr. Lauer and Ms. Curry notably lack the kind of on-camera rapport of Mr. Lauer with Ms. Vieira and, before her, with Ms. Couric. This month they’ve been apart almost as many mornings as they’ve been together; when “Today” went to London for the Queen’s Jubilee on June 4 and 5, Ms. Vieira sat in Ms. Curry’s place. In recent interviews, Mr. Lauer has described his relationship with Ms. Curry as a transition. In one, on CNN last month, he said she has “the biggest heart in broadcasting.”


http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/20/nbc-prepares-to-replace-ann-curry-on-today/

Jay
06-21-2012, 07:45 PM
I like Ann Curry as a co-host, and in general, more than both Viera and Couric combined. *Shrugs*

Ti-Amie
06-21-2012, 09:13 PM
I read awhile ago that Matt Lauer can't stand Ann Curry.

http://gawker.com/5896867/

Jay
06-21-2012, 10:22 PM
I feel like Savannah Guthrie is too....forgettable. I dunno. To me, she's just...there. Then again, I don't watch the Today show that often.

I like Natalie Morales, though. Wouldn't mind her as the new co-host.

Moose
06-22-2012, 05:51 AM
I wonder what Deborah Norville is up to these days ;)

dryrunguy
06-22-2012, 06:34 PM
I read awhile ago that Matt Lauer can't stand Ann Curry.

http://gawker.com/5896867/

I'm pretty sure Matt Lauer doesn't like anyone except Matt Lauer.

JTContinental
06-22-2012, 07:57 PM
LOL, I keep coming in here lured by the title, and then it's just more boring Today show talk.

tobiasfunke
06-24-2012, 01:23 PM
How about Hoda and Kathie Lee for all 4 hours?

I'm dead serious.

Kirkus
06-24-2012, 02:10 PM
LOL, I keep coming in here lured by the title, and then it's just more boring Today show talk.
LOL.

Let me change that...

I am sooooooo excited about Aaron Sorkin's new HBO series, "The Network" that premiers tonight, I could just pee. :overhead_clap:

skatingfan
06-24-2012, 02:50 PM
Me too - looks amazing!!!:cheesy:

Ti-Amie
06-24-2012, 03:35 PM
Sorry JTC :o

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1100946.1340537505!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg
Hoda Kotb and Carrie Underwood

NBC morning show host Hoda Kotb has reportedly emerged as the front-runner to replace soon-to-be-axed “Today” anchor Ann Curry.

Kotb — the breezy, well-liked co-host of the fourth hour of “Today” — is viewed as a natural fit to join Matt Lauer at the helm of the beleaguered morning show.

“Hoda scores off the charts in focus groups, and the audience can relate to her,” an insider told RadarOnline.com. She also has a good rapport with Lauer.

Calls and emails to NBC reps were not returned.

NBC brass has remained mum since reports emerged last week that Curry was on her way out.

After dominating morning-show ratings for more than a decade, “Today” has recently been knocked off its perch by ABC’s “Good Morning America.”



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/television/hoda-kotb-ann-curry-today-seat-article-1.1101381#ixzz1ykk3l8qV

Kirkus
06-24-2012, 03:46 PM
LOL.

Let me change that...

I am sooooooo excited about Aaron Sorkin's new HBO series, "The Network" that premiers tonight, I could just pee. :overhead_clap:


Me too - looks amazing!!!:cheesy:
"The Newsroom". I meant "The Newsroom".

I'm so excited I don't even know the name of the show. LOL.

skatingfan
06-24-2012, 05:12 PM
"The Newsroom". I meant "The Newsroom".

I'm so excited I don't even know the name of the show. LOL.

I kinda figured that - but didn't think it important enough to bother correcting you.

Kirkus
06-24-2012, 11:40 PM
I kinda figured that - but didn't think it important enough to bother correcting you.
Thank you. :)

Had several others around here noticed it they would have :hammerhead: me.


I really liked the premier. I'm an Aaron Sorkin fan anyway. This reminded me so much of Sports Night.

skatingfan
06-25-2012, 05:29 AM
Yes, it did have the Sports Night feel - what I really like about Sorkin's shows is that they aren't afraid to be realistic while at the same time talking about how things should be better and then working to make things that way - can't wait to see how they tackle news events moving forward. Really interesting how they set the show two years in the past so that they can rewrite history with each episode.

winston
06-25-2012, 07:13 AM
How much do I love Aaron Sorkin shows? For the first time since HBO stopped broadcasting Wimbledon, I added HBO to my cable package. (I used to sign up for HBO every May and discontinue it in August.)

Kirkus
06-25-2012, 11:05 AM
How much do I love Aaron Sorkin shows? For the first time since HBO stopped broadcasting Wimbledon, I added HBO to my cable package. (I used to sign up for HBO every May and discontinue it in August.)
I loved Wimbledon on HBO. Especially Martina Navratilova. We used to cancel HBO when Real Time with Bill Maher wasn't being broadcast then pick it up again for that. Now, with The Newsroom, it looks like HBO has a new year-round customer.

The American President has been my favorite movie since I first saw it. Then Sports Night became my favorite TV Show. It wasn't until after I fell in love with West Wing that I discovered all three were from Aaron Sorkin. (I never did like Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip.) The Newsroom came with really high expectations from me, and the premier certainly lived up to them.

tobiasfunke
06-25-2012, 08:23 PM
I only thought it was ok. In fact, I found it a little cheesy. I don't know, I'm indifferent about Sorkin. I'll keep watching, though.

It should have been about the behind the scenes of Hoda and Kathie Lee's 4th hour of the Today Show.




;)

Edmond Dantčs
06-26-2012, 06:41 AM
HBO have made the 1st episode available on youtube (http://youtu.be/1U4ZhFDFYvE).

I do like Sorkin (even Studio 60). Quite a few critics seem to have gone to town on him for this show though.

Ti-Amie
06-28-2012, 03:14 PM
It’s become conventional wisdom that there’s more vital work taking place these days on television than in movies.

At some point, goes the story, a bunch of TV writers tired of the usual small-screen fare and started stretching their creative muscles. (And strangely, lots of them were named David: David Milch did "NYPD Blue," David Chase did "The Sopranos," David Simon did "The Wire"…)

But how long has it really been going on? And how is it reflected in the awards picture? If one were to compare the Emmy-winning drama series and the Oscar-winning movie from each year, which medium would consistently deliver the more significant achievement?

I did just that, and the results aren’t pretty for Oscar, at least not lately. Since 2000, we’ve had 11 Best Picture winners and 11 Emmy drama-series champs—and by my reckoning, the TV shows have been more substantial, and more impactful in the culture, nine of those 11 years.

Here’s the rundown:

I’d say "The Hurt Locker," because of the significance of Kathryn Bigelow’s Best Director win, is the one film that can make a strong case for being more significant than a season of "Mad Men." And "The Return of the King," the culmination of an enormous achievement by Peter Jackson, gets my vote over "West Wing" in 2003. But while I love "No Country for Old Men," is it more substantial than "The Sopranos"? Nope. ("Million Dollar Baby" certainly isn’t.)

As a sometimes infuriating but always intriguing pop-culture touchstone, "Lost" wipes the floor with "Crash." And I’d argue that Jack Bauer on "24" is a significantly more compelling character than Billy Costigan in "The Departed." I mean, you probably don’t need me to tell you that Kiefer Sutherland played Bauer, but who hears Costigan’s name and remembers Leonardo DiCaprio?

Unquestionably, Emmy voters get it wrong at least as often as their Oscar counterparts do. (Hey, those third or fourth "West Wing" Emmys, or that first "Mad Men" one, really could have gone to "The Wire.") But in this century, at least they’ve more frequently honored achievements that have made a mark in the culture.


It wasn’t always so. When I went back further, I gave the decided edge to Oscar winners in the 1990s." Law & Order" lasted for decades but didn’t shake the culture the way James Cameron’s "Titanic" did; "Picket Fences" was an amusing Emmy winner in '93 and '94, but I wouldn’t pick it over "Schindler’s List" or even "Forrest Gump" (which I hated, but which supplied a catchphrase—”Life is like a box of chocolates”—more enduring than anything from David E. Kelley’s smalltown fantasia).

In the '80s, shows like "Hill Street Blues" and "L.A. Law" at least held their own against movies like "Driving Miss Daisy," "The Last Emperor" and "Chariots of Fire," but earlier than that the edge goes resoundingly to the big screen.

I mean, the ‘70s slate of "The French Connection," "The Godfather," "The Godfather II," "One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest" and "Annie Hall" takes no prisoners when you put it up against "The Bold Ones: The Senator," "Elizabeth R" and three seasons of "Upstairs, Downstairs."

And while you could argue that '60s TV shows like "Mission: Impossible" and "The Fugitive" had an impact (even on future movies) more profound than Oscar-winning fluff like "Oliver!," the further back you go the clearer it is that TV was the puny little brother.

But we’re not talking about 1969 ("Midnight Cowboy" vs. "NET Playhouse") or 1962 ("Lawrence of Arabia" vs."The Defenders") or 1953 ("On the Waterfront" vs. "The U.S. Steel Hour").

We’re talking about 2012, when the momentum’s all with the little screen. I’ll be back on the Oscar beat come September, and let’s just say that I’d really like to see a few films that have the muscle to step into the ring with "Breaking Bad."

http://www.thewrap.com/awards/article/emmy-vs-oscar-which-honors-more-substantial-work-45186?page=0,0

Ti-Amie
06-28-2012, 03:19 PM
Ann Curry may not be perfect, but you could argue she deserves better than to be shivved by her NBC bosses in the New York Times twice in four days.

She got it for the second time on Sunday, when an anonymous NBC executive singled out the “Today” show co-host for being too empathetic, in a major take-out by TV critic Mike Hale.

“When she relates to people one on one, there’s a real empathy she has,” said the executive, winding up for the kill. “Sometimes in the studio that seems overwhelming. It’s like, come on now, we’re talking serious issues.”

Nice. Curry’s fate was sealed last week when the Times’ Brian Stelter broke the news that Curry was going to be replaced at the top-earning show which hired her to replace Meredith Vieira and has seen declining ratings since.


(NBC continues a long-standing tradition of leaking major news to the Times, though in the Jeff Zucker era it was consistently under Bill Carter’s byline.)

It appears that Hale’s take-out might have precipitated things. The West Coast print edition did not have the news that Curry was on her way out; it would not be the first time that scrutiny by a major news outlet started a chain of events.

Regardless, the conclusion of the take-out was pretty clear. Hale examined Curry on the “Today” show for a month and the anchor came up wanting.

Oddly, Hale actually criticized her for the opposite of empathy: according to him, Curry is too distant.

He writes: “Sometimes a reporter’s doggedness shows through in situations where a more complicit, reassuring tone is probably what the morning audience, and the show’s producers, would prefer.”

So what’s wrong with Curry? Is she too cuddly? Or too removed?

Hale points out that Curry seems uncomfortable sitting next to the charismatic, relaxed Lauer. He makes a random reference to Curry’s part-Japanese cultural roots, without drawing any direct conclusion as to how that might figure in her seeming distant.

In the nuclear family of “Today” show talent, says Hale, “Ms. Curry, 55, should figure as the sensible older sister, along the lines of Ms. Vieira, who grew up and moved out… But as you watch the show, there’s an inescapable sense that Ms. Curry is outside the group in a subtle but unmistakable way, like the stepsister Cinderella without a prince.”

And now without a job. The petition to save Ann Curry on change.org has now ballooned to 17,000 signatures since Friday.

But the Times says she’ll be out this week. And so far NBC is not denying it.

http://www.thewrap.com/media/column-post/ann-curry-shivved-nyt-anonymous-nbc-exec-her-empathy-overwhelming-45381

Ti-Amie
06-28-2012, 03:23 PM
Ann Curry, in an interview on Wednesday with USA Today, confirmed the news everyone said was imminent: She's leaving the "Today" show.

In a 40-minute phone interview with a reporter from the newspaper, Curry said she expected Thursday to "be a bit of a tough day ... I'm going to have to tell our viewers. That's what makes me more emotional than anything. I don't want to leave them. I love them. And I will really miss them."

The move comes after days of non-stop speculation -- and acute embarrassment to NBC -- about Curry's future on the morning show, which has slipped in the ratings since she replaced Meredith Vieira a year ago.

In the interview, Curry rejected the notion that she was responsible for the ratings decline.

"I know I am not to blame for the ratings worries," she said. "And my bosses have said to me there are many factors involved. There is no doubt that the rating wars have become meaner and less focused on our responsibilities as journalists," though she says some at "Today" do "brilliant work."
(...)
In her new position at NBC, she will lead a seven-person unit with a mandate to cover major news stories, such as the uprising in Syria and "the plight of the poor in America," Curry told USA Today. As anchor-at-large and NBC News national/international correspondent, Curry will produce network specials and pieces for NBC News and fill in as anchor on the Nightly News and elsewhere.

Many media observers have said that Curry was ill-suited to the host position on "Today" and would be better out in the field as a reporter.

http://www.thewrap.com/tv/article/ann-curry-confirms-im-leaving-today-show-45896

Ti-Amie
06-29-2012, 09:46 AM
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1104555.1340977768!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg
Savannah Guthrie (left) takes a seat next to "Today" co-host Matt Lauer just a day after Ann Curry announced she was leaving the show.


The “Today” co-host saga took an almost surreal turn Friday morning, with Savannah Guthrie slipping into Ann Curry’s old chair and everyone around her, including the network, acting as if nothing had changed.

Curry had reluctantly left the show Thursday, and Guthrie has been widely reported to be her successor as NBC attempts to reinvigorate a show that has been losing ground to ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

Guthrie took over the co-hosting role Friday, sitting next to Matt Lauer and trading off with him on the top stories, including the Colorado wildfires and fallout from the Supreme Court’s ruling supporting President Obama’s health-care plan.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/television/today-puts-savannah-guthrie-ann-curry-old-co-host-chair-article-1.1104533#ixzz1zCYNWrHB

JTContinental
06-29-2012, 09:46 AM
Aaaaaah! :D

Ti-Amie
07-10-2012, 12:12 PM
4321

UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. - Veteran program executive Pearlena Igbokwe has been named Executive Vice President, Drama Development for NBC Entertainment, it was announced today by Jennifer Salke, President of NBC Entertainment, to whom Igbokwe will report. She is replacing Laura Lancaster who will segue into a consultancy role to help with the transition through drama development season.

In her new role Igbokwe will oversee the development of all NBC dramas.

“Pearlena has forged an impressive track record over her successful career that has earned her the admiration of the creative community,” said Salke. “She will bring a unique perspective to development that will help us reach our goal of once again making NBC the home of some of the best and most respected dramas on television.”

Igbokwe comes to NBC from Showtime, where she worked closely with Robert Greenblatt, Chairman of NBC Entertainment, for seven years.



“Pearlena is hands-down one of the best creative executives I’ve ever worked with and I’m thrilled she is coming to NBC,” said Greenblatt. “She will be instrumental in reinvigorating our drama slate and making the network a haven for the top creative people in our business.”

During her 20-year tenure at Showtime, Igbokwe was involved in developing the pilot and overseeing every season of “Dexter,” Showtime’s most popular hit ever. She also developed the pilot to the upcoming new Showtime series “Masters of Sex” starring Michael Sheen. She also supervised the Emmy Award-winning and critically-acclaimed original series “Nurse Jackie” and “The Big C,” as well as shepherded “Tracey Ullman’s State of the Union,” “Damon Wayans’ Underground,” Kirstie Alley’s “Fat Actress,” and the television adaptation of the hit feature film “Barbershop.” She was additionally instrumental in the five-season run of the hit Showtime series “Soul Food,” a two-time NAACP Image Award winner for Best Drama Series. (*bowing* - OP)

Igbokwe also has mined success from a number of original movies she developed for Showtime, including the Humanitas Award-nominated “Jasper, Texas,” starring Academy Award winners Jon Voight and Louis Gossett Jr.; the Emmy Award-nominated “Bojangles,” starring the late Gregory Hines; and the Peabody Award-winning “Strange Justice,” to name just a few.

She began her career at Showtime as Manager of Direct Response, Television Marketing, where she was responsible for all media planning and spending, agency creative development, video production and telemarketing for a $13 million general and Hispanic market acquisition campaign.

Igbokwe most recently was featured in industry trade magazine Multichannel News’ 2010 “Wonder Women” issue and previously in Hollywood Reporter’s “Top 35 under 35,” as well as in Ebony and Black Enterprise’s “Top 50 Showbiz Players.”

http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/the-new-head-of-drama-development-programming-at-nbc-is-a-black-woman#

Ti-Amie
07-11-2012, 09:09 AM
Savannah Guthrie's debut as co-anchor was not enough to give "Today" a ratings victory on Monday.

Early numbers show that ABC rival "Good Morning America" beat "Today" in both total viewers and the coveted key demographic on Monday, kicking off the weekly ratings rat race.

The Monday win is a notable one for the morning shows, since NBC was likely hoping to get a boost from the interest surrounding Guthrie's first day. Guthrie ascended to the spot a little more than a week after she replaced former co-host Ann Curry following a year that saw the NBC show fall from its perch as the number one morning show on television. "Good Morning America" beat "Today" in April 2012, ending the NBC morning show's 16-year ratings winning streak.

Although "Good Morning America" beat the "Today" show's Monday ratings, either network can still win the week.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/10/savannah-guthrie-today-show-gma-nbc_n_1663141.html?utm_hp_ref=media

Moose
07-11-2012, 11:08 AM
Chloe Sevigny stars in a Brit import that debuts on DirecTV tonight - show is called "Hit Or Miss". She plays an Irish transgendered hit man/woman, who suddenly ends up with three children to raise. Don't have DirecTV, which is a shame, because she's among my couple of favorite actresses, and while I have friends that can't stand her, I'd pretty much pay to watch her do anything.

She is also being added to the cast for the 2nd season of "American Horror Story"

Ti-Amie
07-24-2012, 02:54 PM
Modern Family‘s first Season 4 table read, scheduled for today, was cancelled at the last minute for fear that contentious contract talks would keep several cast members from showing, sources confirm to TVLine.

Multiple cast members of the ABC comedy are re-negotiating their salaries with the show’s production company, 20th Century Fox TV, and Deadline.com reports that the talks aren’t going smoothly. Modern’s adult stars – including Sofia Vergara, Julie Bowen, Ty Burrell, Jesse Tyler Ferguson and Eric Stonestreet – allegedly have pooled their negotiation powers to achieve a desired salary increase, similar to what the Friends cast successfully did prior to Season 3 of that sitcom. And all of the adults — save Ed O’Neill — filed suit Tuesday in Los Angeles Superior Court to void their contracts, per The Hollywood Reporter.

Today’s gathering, a regular occurrence at which the cast would have run through an upcoming episode’s script for the first time, would have been difficult to make happen without those adult cast members in attendance.

The change in schedule is making news because although contract negotiations are often difficult, they rarely interfere with a show’s production. (As Deadline points out, Everybody Loves Raymond and Malcolm in the Middle are notable exceptions.)

http://tvline.com/2012/07/24/modern-family-contract-negotiations-season/

Martini4me
08-13-2012, 01:56 PM
"In the past few months, CNN had its worst ratings in 21 years and president Jim Walton stepped down because, as he put it, "CNN needs new thinking." According to a New York Post report, someone was definitely thinking outside the box when they came up with the network's new strategy. While CNN has been trying to position itself as the nonpartisan alternative to MSNBC and Fox News, the network is now looking for new on-air personalities at Hollywood talent agencies and considering ideas for reality programs. An anonymous producer who's attended the meetings says it's like, “that moment when MTV decided to stop playing music videos."

Perhaps a more accurate description would be the moment Bravo, Discovery, and History gave up on semi-educational programming for the likes of Real Housewives and Pawn Stars, since CNN is said to be consulting with the production companies that supply those networks with reality shows. Anthony Bourdain's previously announced Sunday night travel show may be a harbinger of things to come. The network is working on five reality programs in the same vein, as well as a late-night version of The View.

If the plan actually comes to fruition, the network will undoubtedly be bashed by critics, since news with a strong entertainment angle is probably not what James Earl Jones was picturing when he intoned, "This is CNN." However, more reality programming could be a smart business move for CNN. When lamenting that MTV stopped playing music videos, people often fail to note that its ostensibly unscripted series were huge ratings successes. Plus, if your network is staffed by the likes of Lauren Conrad and Snooki, people are far more forgiving when you botch a report on a landmark Supreme Court decision."
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08/cnn-to-save-itself-by-featuring-less-news.html?mid=twitter_dailyintel

Kirkus
08-13-2012, 03:35 PM
That's sad. But, if you think about it, 24/7 news sounds like a difficult thing to pull off and still keep ratings (profits) up.

MSNBC runs prison shows and caught on video shows from Friday night through the weekends and a lot of repeats of their "news" (I use the term loosely) shows after 11 p.m.

I hope they keep Anderson Cooper (he makes me laugh).

Ti-Amie
08-13-2012, 04:18 PM
The weekends make me remember the NBC in MSNBC. You can, and I do, disagree with their editorial position but if something happens on the weekend CNN is there.

After they stole bought CNN from Ted Turner the network has really been on a downward slide.

Kirkus
08-13-2012, 04:30 PM
The weekends make me remember the NBC in MSNBC. You can, and I do, disagree with their editorial position but if something happens on the weekend CNN is there.

After they stole bought CNN from Ted Turner the network has really been on a downward slide.That is so true. If news is breaking on the weekend there's no where else to go but CNN.

I'd love to have seen MSNBC scattering this past Friday night to line up their guests for Saturday's VP announcement.

Something else CNN has that none of the others do is International News. I don't know how many times CNN International was on the air when an important story was developing.

Ti-Amie
08-13-2012, 05:04 PM
The international news coverage is why so many continue to watch CNN.

Ti-Amie
08-15-2012, 10:50 AM
Beyond the Medal Stand: TheWrap Picks the Real Winners & Losers of Olympics 2012



Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps and Ryan Lochte all left indelible marks on the 2012 Summer Olympics, winning a combined 14 medals, nine of them gold.

But you can count the winners by more than the medals. TheWrap has picked the biggest winners and losers from the London games. And yeah, Hollywood's on the list.

Winner: NBC. Media pundits disparaged NBC for tape-delaying the games (more on that later), but guess who laughs last?

According to Nielsen, 219.4 million Americans watched the London Olympics, the most ever. Over 17 nights, NBC averaged 31.1 million viewers in primetime, the most for a non-U.S. Summer Olympics since 1976.

It wasn’t just NBC that benefited either. NBC rebranded Versus as NBC Sports Network in January, identifying the Stanley Cup Playoffs and Olympics as critical to luring those viewers loyal to ESPN. NBC Sports Network recorded 11 of its 12 most-watched days during the Olympics.

"No matter how you cut it NBC came out a huge winner," Pete Moran, CEO of media analytics for General Sentiment, told TheWrap.

Score one for 30 Rock.


Loser: Ryan Seacrest. The sappy Idol host made viewers rethink the meaning of unwatchable. He secured face time with some of the games’ biggest stars, including Phelps and his coach Bob Bowman. So what did Seacrest talk about with the 22-time medal winner? A race at the Beijing Olympics in which water flooded Phelps’ goggles.

"He's superfluous to this kind of coverage," Dan Durbin, USC director of USC's Annenberg Institute of Sports, Media and Society, told TheWrap. "He has a great personality, but it's not an absolute personality. He's not going to fit in every venue and every situation. He's getting away with overexposing himself, but that's part of who he is."


Winner: Usain Bolt. He defended his titles in the 100-meter and 200-meter races before anchoring the Jamaicans world record run in the 4x100 relay.

Bolt took his acclaim to new heights. He trashed American icon Carl Lewis and got away with it. Bolt called himself a living legend.

Who are we to disagree?


Loser: Jordyn Wieber. We didn’t want to pick on anyone, least of all a teenager. But the one U.S. gymnast with the most to lose lost it.

After entering the games as the favorite to win the gold medal in the individual all-around, she did not even qualify for the event. Instead, teammate Gabby Douglas earned the gold and millions of fans.

Wieber didn’t just miss out on the hardware, but also her chance to score million-dollar endorsements.


Winner: Fox Sports/Yahoo. Both FoxSports.com and Yahoo set online-audience records with their coverage of the Olympics.


According to Yahoo’s own measurements, its coverage reached more than 150 million people around the world while Fox drew 74 million in the second week – the best week ever for the site.

Adding to their triumph, both Yahoo and Fox Sports drew larger audiences on certain days than NBCOlympics.com, the official site for the games. For those keeping score at home, Fox and Yahoo beat NBC without paying for video rights. Huge audiences at far lower costs? Cha-ching.

Loser: ESPN. Make no mistake that “The Worldwide Leader” was bummed to miss out on rights to the Olympics (even if NBC overpaid). It deprived ESPN of the rights to a limitless reservoir of clips -- the lifeblood of SportsCenter. You try recapping a swimming meet with only photos -- it ain’t pretty.

"It's really hard to make a compelling story in a video medium with a photo or a still," Moran told TheWrap. "They have an audience that is expecting that."

It doesn’t help that ESPN tends to give less coverage to events that it does not hold the rights too, which meant more preseason football. And NASCAR!

Loser: Danny Boyle. Boyle is a great British director and an Academy Award winner for “Slumdog Millionaire.” Yet coming off the wondrous spectacle that was the 2008 opening ceremony, his homage to sheep, cricket, smoke-stacks and the Beatles that opened this year's games seemed uneven and, at times, just plain weird.

NBC didn't help, but maybe Rio will be better.

"I get a feeling from Danny Boyle that you either have someone who watched too much Pink Floyd, or that Great Britain is a little embarrassed about having once been an empire. They were trying to say 'we did all this, we're embarrassed and here are the bad parts,'" Durbin said.

Winner: Guy Adams. Adams, a Los Angeles-based reporter for the British newspaper The Independent, was one of the loudest critics of NBC’s coverage over the opening weekend. NBC didn’t take well to being called “clowns,” and Twitter soon suspended Adams’ account. In doing so, the social network turned Adams into a martyr, a symbol of NBC’s reviled decision to tape delay the games. Few on this side of the Atlantic had ever heard of Guy Adams before. Now he has almost 20,000 followers.

Winner: Ryan Lochte and Michael Phelps. Was there a single day during the Olympics where you didn’t hear about Lochte? First there was his performance in the pool, where he won five medals. Then there was his mom going on about her son’s one-night stands.

Then there were his appearances on NBC’s “Today” show, where he revealed his desire to appear on reality TV shows. Now he’s got a spot on “90210.”

This just the beginning, especially since Lochte plans to race again in 2016.

The same goes for Missy Franklin, who also had a golden Olympics. She won five medals, four of them gold, and the 17-year old should be the talk of the town in Rio. But it's not her time just yet, especially since as an amateur she's unable to reap monetary gain from her breathtaking performances.

As for Phelps, he cemented his status as the most accomplished Olympian in history. According to General Sentiment, which uses data tracking mentions of people and brands online to estimate media value, Michael Phelps led the pack by a mile.

"Phelps was the killer," Moran said. "He ended up with almost $63 million in earned media, which is almost double what Bolt did.

Paging Fat Joe, Phelps has a license to make it rain.

Loser: Rafalca. Rarely has so much attention been lavished on a horse competing in dressage, but one of its owners is Mitt Romney's wife Ann. The media is part of the problem in this case, devoting too much coverage to the horse and its medal chances. Rafalca fell short, missing the medal round. The U.S. team finished sixth, well out of medal contention. Fortunately for Ann Romney, her husband can finish no worse than second in November. But he’ll need a first place finish for any medals.


Winner: Twitter (and Facebook). Once again Twitter proved to be a primary conversation mover during a major event, offering news, snark and oodles of photos. Facebook received prominent promotion during the games, a result of its partnership with NBC.

"The message should be getting out that social media is driving other media now," Durbin said. "If people are tweeting all day about Usain Bolt destroying a record, of course everyone wants to see it -- even as clumsy as NBC's work was."

Loser: NBC. What? NBC twice? NBC may have scored in the ratings department, but it misfired plenty. Its decision to tape delay the games left the media (and some Twitter-obsessed fans) irate. It edited out a tribute to those who died in the 1972 terrorists attacks at the Munich games to air an interview with Phelps. It interrupted the closing ceremony to air an hour-long preview of “Animal Practice.” It interviewed swimmers and runners after races when they could hardly breathe. It employed Seacrest.

Next time, NBC may be forced to air it live. If only that were the sole problem in 2012.

Winner: London/Great Britain. Despite Mitt Romney’s initial worries about safety and traffic, London pulled off a successful Olympics. There were no lamentable incidents and the country got to showcase some of its most famous venues, from Wembley Stadium to Wimbledon.

And, if that weren’t enough, its athletes earned the third most gold medals of any nation.

"You cant get a better travelogue for the tourist information board," Moran told TheWrap. "London showed beautifully and NBC did a great job of showing the town. London was a big winner because it can leverage so much of the good will and good footage for years, and translate that into huge tourist dollars."

Capitalism at its finest.

http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/ryan-lochte-ryan-seacrest-headline-olympics-winners-losers-52051?page=0,0

shtexas
08-15-2012, 11:51 AM
My only comment, and it's not a defense of NBC, but I believe Animal Practice was not an hour long. It's a 30-minute show, and since they ran it without commercials, it was about 22 minutes.

mmmm8
08-15-2012, 11:53 AM
"It edited out a tribute to those who died in the 1972 terrorists attacks at the Munich games to air an interview with Phelps. It interrupted the closing ceremony to air an hour-long preview of “Animal Practice.”"

There are actually two facts that are wrong in that one sentence...

mmmm8
08-15-2012, 11:53 AM
My only comment, and it's not a defense of NBC, but I believe Animal Practice was not an hour long. It's a 30-minute show, and since they ran it without commercials, it was about 22 minutes.


Yup. The other 30 minutes was the news.

shtexas
08-15-2012, 11:56 AM
"It edited out a tribute to those who died in the 1972 terrorists attacks at the Munich games to air an interview with Phelps. It interrupted the closing ceremony to air an hour-long preview of “Animal Practice.”"

There are actually two facts that are wrong in that one sentence...

As for the tribute, I thought it was the IOC that would not do one.