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Pattyfan
07-10-2011, 10:32 AM
HI all. I thought I understood how players got into the Slams, but a friend asked me some specific questions and I realized that I didn't know as much as I thought I did. But I know that you all will know :)

So there are 4 ways that players can get into a Slam, right?

1) Have a ranking high enough to get in automatically.

2) Get in through the pre-Slam qualifying tournament.

3) Play the qualifying tournament, not make it far enough to get into the Slam, but be the highest ranking person not to make it and get in by being a lucky loser when someone who's already in the main draw withdraws.

4) Get a wild card from the organizers of the Slam.

Is that right?

So here is my question. I heard a commentator say that someone whose ranking was in the 80's or 90's had to qualify to get into the tournament. Could that be right? If there are 128 people in the main singles draw, and there are maybe 8 wildcards (is that about right?) and 8 qualifiers (are there significantly more than that?) that would leave 112 places in the draw, so it seems like players with a ranking in the 80's or 90's would get in directly.

If anyone knows the specific numbers of qualifiers that get in, the wildcards that get in, and how the rest of the places in the draw are filled, I'd love to know. Thanks :)

Kevin

p.s. Nole Rocks!

mmmm8
07-10-2011, 10:39 AM
HI all. I thought I understood how players got into the Slams, but a friend asked me some specific questions and I realized that I didn't know as much as I thought I did. But I know that you all will know :)

So there are 4 ways that players can get into a Slam, right?

1) Have a ranking high enough to get in automatically.

2) Get in through the pre-Slam qualifying tournament.

3) Play the qualifying tournament, not make it far enough to get into the Slam, but be the highest ranking person not to make it and get in by being a lucky loser when someone who's already in the main draw withdraws.

4) Get a wild card from the organizers of the Slam.

Is that right?

So here is my question. I heard a commentator say that someone whose ranking was in the 80's or 90's had to qualify to get into the tournament. Could that be right?

Kevin

p.s. Nole Rocks!

The slam entry lists are determined 6 weeks before the start of the tournament, so you have to be ranked high enough at that point to get into the main draw (and into qualifying)

Also you missed another way of getting in automatically - through protected ranking (due to injury). You have to be out a certain number of weeks/months to get that, and a limited number of tournaments and time to use it.

dryrunguy
07-10-2011, 10:42 AM
Protected ranking would be another way.

And while someone may be ranked in the 80s or 90s at the time of a major, it depends on his/her ranking at the time of entry 6 weeks earlier. So if he/she were ranked 130 at the time of entry, he/she would have to qualify. And would probably be the #1 seed in qualifying. That happens frequently.

The opposite also is true. A player can be ranked in the 80s at the time of entry and then see their ranking fall to 130 but would still already have secured a spot in the main draw because of the ranking at time of entry.

Miles
07-10-2011, 11:53 AM
Just one other note to what is posted above. Though the six-week ranking is used as a cut-off for entry, the seeding for the slam draw is determined by the actual ranking as of the week of the official draw.

omess
07-10-2011, 11:58 AM
3) Play the qualifying tournament, not make it far enough to get into the Slam, but be the highest ranking person not to make it and get in by being a lucky loser when someone who's already in the main draw withdraws
.

If anyone knows the specific numbers of qualifiers that get in, the wildcards that get in, and how the rest of the places in the draw are filled, I'd love to know. Thanks :)

Kevin

p.s. Nole Rocks!


Or if that player withdraws before qualifiyng start , the highest person in the alternate list gets in automatically. They changed the rule for the lucky loser(s), now they have draw among few players (it depends of the number of main draw withdrawl). They did it so player will not tank the last round of qualifying.

Men Grand Slam. Cutoff #104, 16 qualifiers , 8 WC

Women Grand Slam. Cutoff #108, 12 qualifiers, 8 WC except the US open who has the same cutoff as the men


Cutoff will go down if one or more players uses a protect ranking. For example. at the last wimbledon the original men cutoff was #101 because Haas, Gonzales and Karlovic used their protect ranking

Pattyfan
07-10-2011, 12:09 PM
See, I knew you guys would know. :) Thanks. So basically a player ranked 100 or lower (or should I say higher, or better? I mean, from 1-100) 6 weeks before the tournament will get in, barring a huge number of players with protected rankings, right?

Thanks again :)

Kevin

(Nole, Nole, Nole.... :) )

omess
07-10-2011, 12:21 PM
104 for the men , 108 for the women except us open