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PeterSkan
01-08-2006, 05:48 PM
The comparative stats for two great players during their most dominant periods. Data posted by Kauffman on TOB:

A TRUE EXAMPLE OF DOMINANCE: MARTINA NAVRATILOVA

Martina Navratilova reached the final round of 20 out of 24 consecutive Grand Slam events in 6 consecutive years between January 1982 and September 1987, winning 14 of these Slams, runnerup in 6 of these Slams, semifinalist in another one.

VENUS WILLIAMS' 2000 - 2005: 22 SLAMS PLAYED

Australian Open: 20-5
Final round loser in 2003
Semifinal loser in 2001
Quarterfinal loser in 2002
4th round loser in 2005
3rd round loser in 2004
Did not play in 2000

French Open: 19-6
Final round loser in 2002
Quarterfinal loser in 2000 and 2004
4th round loser in 2003
3rd round loser in 2005
1st round loser in 2001

Wimbledon: 34-3
Champion in 2000, 2001 and 2005
Final round loser in 2002 and 2003
2nd round loser in 2004

U.S. Open: 27-3
Champion in 2000 and 2001
Final round loser in 2002
Quarterfinal loser in 2005
4th round loser in 2004
Did not play in 2003



MARTINA NAVRATILOVA'S 1982 - 1987: 23 SLAMS PLAYED

Australian Open: 31-3
Champion in 1983 and 1985
Runnerup in 1982 and 1987
Semifinal round in 1984
Did not play in 1986

French Open: 35-4
Champion in 1982 and 1984
Runnerup in 1985, 1986 and 1987
4th round in 1983

Wimbledon: 42-0
Champion in 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986 and 1987

U.S. Open: 38-2
Champion in 1983, 1984, 1986 and 1987
Runnerup in 1985
Quarterfinal round in 1982



COMPARATIVE SUMMARY:

OVERALL WIN-LOSS RECORD IN THESE 6 YEARS:
483-22 (.9564) for Navratilova vs. 256-45 (.8505) for Venus.

TOTAL SLAM RECORD IN THESE 6 YEARS:
146-9 (.9419) for Navratilova vs. 100-17 (.8547) for Venus.

WTA TOUR SINGLES TITLES IN THESE 6 YEARS:
70 (average of 11.67 per year) for Navratilova vs. only 24 (average of 4 per year) for Venus.

YEARS RANKED #1 IN THESE 6 YEARS:
5 of 6 years #1 for Navratilova vs. none for Venus.

WEEKS RANKED #1 IN THESE 6 YEARS:
250 weeks (4.8 years) ranked #1 for Navratilova vs. only 11 weeks (0.2 years) for Venus.

WTA TOUR CHAMPIONSHIPS WON IN THESE 6 YEARS:
5 WTA Tour Championships for Navratilova vs. none for Venus.

3mlm
01-08-2006, 08:38 PM
Peter,

Why the comparison?

Even though Navratilova won 4 fewer slam singles titles than Graf and 6 fewer slam singles titles than Court, many consider her to have the best record ever in women's tennis. Graf may have had more weeks at #1 but nowhere near as many total singles titles and is hardly even worth a mention in doubles.

Venus isn't even in the ballpark with any of those ladies (or Seles or Serena) and is not even as accomplished in career statistics as Hingis.

munchin
01-15-2006, 12:03 PM
Yeah, this seems like a weird comparison. Venus isn't even the highest achiever in her family. Still, it's a tough comparison between anyone playing now and the big 4 from the 80s and 90s (Martina, Evert, Seles, Graf). They each had multi-year stretches where they remained practically unchallenged at the slams except by each other. But we'll probably never see anything like that for many years, because as soon as someone starts to dominate these days, someone comes along and knocks her down. Martina was great till Lindsay and Venus pushed her aside and they were pushed aside by Serena who was pushed aside by Justine and so on. I kind of hope we never see a period like that again, because the domination thing gets really boring after a year or so (I remember being so into Arantxa in the mid-90s cause she seemed to be the only person who could take a set of Steffi).

I am kinda curious though about how Hingis and Serena stack up to Navratilova

PeterSkan
02-06-2006, 10:43 PM
Peter,

Why the comparison?

Even though Navratilova won 4 fewer slam singles titles than Graf and 6 fewer slam singles titles than Court, many consider her to have the best record ever in women's tennis. Graf may have had more weeks at #1 but nowhere near as many total singles titles and is hardly even worth a mention in doubles.

Venus isn't even in the ballpark with any of those ladies (or Seles or Serena) and is not even as accomplished in career statistics as Hingis.

Of course. LIke I say, I just copied the post from TOB. This was Kauffman's Komparison. You'll have to ask him why he chose to post it. I snagged the data for the data's sake, not for the sake of the comparison.