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PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:04 AM
Win # Year Date Tournament Surface Venue Final

1 1973 25-Nov-73 GP: Buenos Aires, Argentina Clay O W Borg, Bjorn (SWE ) N/A 3-6 6-7 6-4 6-6
2 1974 14-Jul-74 GP: Gstaad, Switzerland Clay O W Orantes, Manuel (ESP ) N/A 6-1 6-2
3 1974 21-Jul-74 GP: Hilversum, The Netherlands Clay O W Phillips-Moore, Barry (AUS ) N/A 6-4 6-2 1-6 6-3
4 1974 05-Aug-74 GP: Louisville, KY, U.S.A. Clay O W Fillol Sr., Jaime (CHI ) N/A 6-4 7-5
5 1974 12-Aug-74 GP: Montreal / Toronto, Montreal, Canada Hard O W Orantes, Manuel (ESP ) N/A 6-4 6-2 6-3
6 1974 27-Oct-74 GP: Tehran, Iran Clay O W Ramirez, Raul (MEX ) N/A 6-0 6-3 6-1
7 1974 24-Nov-74 GP: Buenos Aires, Argentina Clay O W Orantes, Manuel (ESP ) N/A 6-3 6 7-5 6-2
8 1974 10-Dec-74 WC: Masters, Australia Grass O W Nastase, Ilie (ROM ) N/A 7-6 6-2 3-6 6-4
9 1975 07-May-75 GP: Munich, Germany Clay O W Meiler, Karl (GER ) N/A 2-6 6-0 6-2 6-3
10 1975 20-Jul-75 GP: Hilversum, The Netherlands Clay O W Franulovic, Zeljko (CRO ) N/A 6-4 6-7 6-2 6-3
11 1975 21-Jul-75 GP: Washington, DC, U.S.A. Clay O W Solomon, Harold (USA ) N/A 6-1 6-3
12 1975 05-Aug-75 GP: Louisville, KY, U.S.A. Clay O W Nastase, Ilie (ROM ) N/A 6-4 6-3
13 1975 10-Nov-75 GP: Buenos Aires, Argentina Clay O W Panatta, Adriano (ITA ) N/A 6-1 6-4 6-4
14 1976 17-Feb-76 GP: St. Louis WCT, MO, U.S.A. Carpet I W Amritraj, Vijay (IND ) N/A 4-6 6-0 6-4
15 1976 24-Feb-76 GP: Fort Worth WCT, TX, U.S.A. Hard O W Dent, Phil (AUS ) N/A 6-7(4) 6-1 6-1
16 1976 13-Apr-76 GP: Monte Carlo WCT, Monaco Clay O W Fibak, Wojtek (POL ) N/A 6-1 6-1 6-4
17 1976 17-Aug-76 GP: Montreal / Toronto, Montreal, Canada Hard O W Fibak, Wojtek (POL ) N/A 6-4 7-6 6-2
18 1976 15-Nov-76 GP: Sao Paulo, Brazil Carpet O W Higueras, Jose (ESP ) N/A 6-3 6-0
19 1976 22-Nov-76 GP: Buenos Aires, Argentina Clay O W Fillol Sr., Jaime (CHI ) N/A 6-2 6-2 6-3
20 1977 07-Feb-77 GP: Springfield, Springfield, MA, USA Carpet I W Smith, Stan (USA ) N/A 3-6 6-0 6-3 6-2
21 1977 14-Apr-77 GP: Buenos Aires, Argentina Clay O W Fibak, Wojtek (POL ) N/A 6-4 6-3 6-0
22 1977 19-Apr-77 GP: Virginia Beach, VA, USA Hard O W Nastase, Ilie (ROM ) N/A 6-2 4-6 6-2
23 1977 23-May-77 Roland Garros, France Clay O W Gottfried, Brian (USA ) N/A 6-0 6-3 6-0
24 1977 11-Jul-77 GP: Kitzbuhel, Austria Clay O W Kodes, Jan (CZE ) N/A 5-7 6-2 4-6 6-3 6-2
25 1977 18-Jul-77 GP: Washington, DC, U.S.A. Clay O W Gottfried, Brian (USA ) N/A 6-4 7-5
26 1977 25-Jul-77 GP: Louisville, KY, U.S.A. Hard O W Dibbs, Eddie (USA ) N/A 1-6 6-0 6-1
27 1977 31-Jul-77 GP: South Orange, New Jersey, USA Hard O W Tanner, Roscoe (USA ) N/A 6-4 6-1
28 1977 08-Aug-77 GP: Columbus, OH, U.S.A. Hard O W Gottfried, Brian (USA ) N/A 6-2 6-1
29 1977 31-Aug-77 US Open, NY, U.S.A. Clay O W Connors, Jimmy (USA ) N/A 2-6 6-3 7-6 6-0
30 1977 19-Sep-77 GP: Paris, France Clay I W Roger-Vasselin, Christophe (FRA ) N/A 6-2 6-1 7-6
31 1977 03-Oct-77 GP: Tehran, Iran Clay O W Dibbs, Eddie (USA ) N/A 6-2 6-4 1-6 6-1
32 1977 07-Nov-77 GP: Bogota, Colombia Clay O W Higueras, Jose (ESP ) N/A 6-1 6-2 6-3
33 1977 14-Nov-77 GP: Santiago, Chile Clay O W Fillol Sr., Jaime (CHI ) N/A 6-0 2-6 6-4
34 1977 21-Nov-77 GP: Buenos Aires, Argentina Clay O W Fillol Sr., Jaime (CHI ) N/A 6-2 7-5 3-6 6-3
35 1977 21-Nov-77 GP: Johannesburg WCT, South Africa Hard O W Mottram, Buster C. (GBR ) N/A 7-6 6-3 6-4
36 1978 15-May-78 GP: Hamburg, Germany Clay O W Fibak, Wojtek (POL ) N/A 6-2 6-4 6-2
37 1978 23-May-78 Munich, Germany Clay O W Mottram, Buster C. (GBR ) N/A 6-1 6-3 6-3
38 1978 10-Jul-78 GP: Gstaad, Switzerland Clay O W Clerc, Jose-Luis (ARG ) N/A 6-3 7-6 6-4
39 1978 30-Jul-78 GP: South Orange, NJ, U.S.A. Clay O W Clerc, Jose-Luis (ARG ) N/A 6-1 6-3
40 1978 25-Sep-78 GP: Aix-En-Provence, France Clay O W Clerc, Jose-Luis (ARG ) N/A 6-3 6-0 6-3
41 1978 24-Oct-78 GP: Basel, Switzerland Hard I W McEnroe, John (USA ) N/A 6-3 5-7 7-5 6-4
42 1978 26-Dec-78 Australian Open, Australia Grass O W Marks, John (AUS ) N/A 6-4 6-4 3-6 6-3
43 1979 01-Jan-79 GP: Hobart, Australia Grass O W Edmondson, Mark (AUS ) N/A 6-4 6-4
44 1979 01-Jan-79 GP: Washington, DC, U.S.A. Clay O W Pecci Sr., Victor (PAR ) N/A 7-6 7-6
45 1979 19-Nov-79 GP: Buenos Aires, Argentina Clay O W Clerc, Jose-Luis (ARG ) N/A 6-1 6-2 6-2
46 1979 24-Dec-79 Australian Open, Australia Grass O W Sadri, John (USA ) N/A 7-6 6-3 6-2
47 1980 05-May-80 WT: Nations Cup, Germany Clay O W Barazzutti, Corrado (ITA ) N/A 6-3 6-2
48 1980 19-May-80 GP: Rome, Italy Clay O W Noah, Yannick (FRA ) N/A 6-0 6-4 6-4
49 1980 21-Jul-80 GP: Kitzbuhel, Austria Clay O W Lendl, Ivan (USA ) N/A 6-3 6-2 6-2
50 1980 08-Sep-80 GP: Palermo, Italy Clay O W McNamee, Paul (AUS ) N/A 6-4 6-0 6-0
51 1981 02-Feb-81 GP: Mar Del Plata, Argentina Clay O W Pecci Sr., Victor (PAR ) N/A 2-6 6-3 2-1
52 1981 09-Mar-81 GP: Cairo, Egypt Clay O W Elter, Peter (GER ) N/A 6-2 6-3
53 1981 06-Apr-81 GP: Houston, TX, U.S.A. Clay O W Giammalva Jr., Sammy (USA ) N/A 6-2 6-4
54 1981 13-Apr-81 GP: Monte Carlo, Monaco Clay O F Connors, Jimmy (USA ) N/A
55 1982 13-Mar-82 GP: Rotterdam, The Netherlands Carpet I W Connors, Jimmy (USA ) N/A 6 6-2 6-4
56 1982 22-Mar-82 GP: Milan, Italy Carpet I W Connors, Jimmy (USA ) N/A 6-3 6-3
57 1982 05-Apr-82 GP: Monte Carlo, Monaco Clay O W Lendl, Ivan (USA ) N/A 6-1 7-6 6-3
58 1982 26-Apr-82 GP: Madrid, Spain Clay O W Lendl, Ivan (USA ) N/A 6-7 4-6 6-0 6-3 6-3
59 1982 12-Jul-82 GP: Boston, MA, U.S.A. Clay O W Purcell, Mel (USA ) N/A 6-4 6-0
60 1982 19-Jul-82 GP: Kitzbuhel, Austria Clay O W Hocevar, Marcos (BRA ) N/A 7-6 6-1
61 1983 07-Feb-83 GP: Richmond WCT, VA, U.S.A. Carpet I W Denton, Steve (USA ) N/A 6-3 7-5 6-4
62 1983 21-Feb-83 GP: Delray Beach WCT, FL, U.S.A. Clay O W Slozil, Pavel (CZE ) N/A 6-1 6-4 6-0
63 1983 18-Jul-83 GP: Kitzbuhel, Austria Clay O W Leconte, Henri (FRA ) N/A 7-6 4-6 6-4

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:07 AM
Vilas' record at the Australian Open

Australian Open at Melbourne
December 25, 1978
Surface: Grass
R64 Terry Rocavert (AUS) 6-3, 6-7, 6-3, 7-6
R32 Brad Drewett (AUS) 6-4, 6-4, 6-3
R16 Allan Stone (AUS) 6-4, 6-4, 6-4
QF Tony Roche (AUS) 3-6, 6-1, 3-6, 6-3, 6-2
SF Hank Pfister (USA) 6-2, 6-0, 6-4
F John Marks (AUS) 6-4, 6-4, 3-6, 6-3


Australian Open at Melbourne
December 24, 1979
Surface: Grass
R64 Chris Lewis (GBR) 7-5, 6-3, 6-4
R32 Alvin Gardiner (AUS) 6-4, 6-2, 6-4
R16 Peter McNamara (AUS) 6-3, 6-4, 6-4
QF Phil Dent (AUS) 6-2, 3-6, 7-6, 4-6, 6-2
SF Victor Amaya (USA) 7-5, 3-6, 7-6, 7-6
F John Sadri (USA) 7-6, 6-3, 6-2


Australian Open at Melbourne
December 22, 1980
Surface: Grass
R64 David Carter (AUS) 7-6, 6-3, 6-4
R32 Steve Docherty (AUS) 3-6, 6-3, 6-3, 7-6
R16 Kevin Curren (USA) 6-7, 6-4, 6-4, 6-3
QF John Sadri (USA) 7-5, 6-4, 2-6, 4-6, 6-3
SF LOST TO Kim Warwick (AUS) 7-6, 4-6, 2-6, 6-2, 4-6


Australian Open at Melbourne
December 21, 1981
Surface: Grass
R64 Joakim Nystrom (SWE) 6-4, 6-2, 7-6
R32 Larry Stefanki (USA) 6-7, 6-3, 6-4, 6-4
R16 LOST TO Hank Pfister (USA) 3-6, 4-6, 4-6

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:09 AM
Vilas has the record for the most number of singles titles for anyone not reaching the number 1 position.

This in spite of the fact that he was dealt a one-year suspension for doing what everyone else was doing - taking appearance money [actually it has been suggested that Ion Tiriac made the arrangements and Vilas had nothing to do with it].

Here's what French Open champ Noah had to say about it:

"Two days after his French Open victory he was suspended from tennis for 42 days and fined $20,000 by the Men's International Professional Tennis Council, the governing body of the sport, for failing to appear at a World Team Cup singles match in Dusseldorf in May. Admittedly not in peak form, Noah commuted to Paris between matches, losing in round-robin singles competition to Russell Simpson of New Zealand and Jose Higueras of Spain. Then, complaining of stomach cramps before his final match, Noah says that he returned to Paris, checked into a clinic and slept through his return flight.

Though he chose not to appeal the suspension, preferring to sit out Wimbledon, which he had intended to do regardless, and an undemanding Davis Cup tie against Paraguay, which France won 3-2, Noah is far from contrite. "I was at fault for not letting the tournament people know I was too sick to play," he says. "But they could have used a substitute. It was a meaningless match anyway because the French team had already been eliminated. So it seems to me that the penalty was far too great."

Much worse, Noah believes, was the one-year suspension and $20,000 fine the council imposed on his good friend Guillermo Vilas for allegedly accepting appearance money for a tournament in Rotterdam in March. The practice of under-the-table payments or "guarantees" is so widespread on the tour, says Noah, that "if you suspend Guillermo, you might also suspend the top 30 players. I just don't think it's good for the game to suspend somebody like Guillermo, a great player who has worked hard and has a good image, for an entire year."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/cover/2002/then_now/flashbacks/noah_081583/

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:10 AM
Detail of Vilas' 1974 Masters win on Australian Grass:

Masters, Australia
WC, 10-Dec-74, O, Grass , Draw: 8

RR Borg, Bjorn (SWE ) N/A 7-5 6-1
RR Newcombe, John (AUS ) N/A 6-4 7-6
RR Parun, Onny (NZL ) N/A 7-5 3-6 11-9
S Ramirez, Raul (MEX ) N/A 4-6 6-3 6-2 7-5
W Nastase, Ilie (ROM ) N/A 7-6 6-2 3-6 6-4

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:13 AM
A bit of bamter about Vilas:

Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
PeterSkan Posted: Mar 11, 2006 03:59 PM Quote
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I suppose if you weren't sick of it, you could praise Pete for having won at least 3 titles on all the surfaces. Not bad for a Number 1 player, though the weakling Vilas who never rose to #1 accomplished that feat 4 times.

How could this be? Pete has 64 titles overall, and a further 24 finals, for a total of 88 finals in his stellar career.

Poor Vilas only managed 62 titles out of 102 finals played. What a loser.

Maybe Vilas would have been more successful if he had limited his doubles activity like Pete did. Pete counts 2 doubles titles and a total of 4 doubles finals. Vilas, always trying to be a team player, has 15 doubles titles to his credit and a total of 27 doubles finals.

That spirit suck_ed him into leading Argentina in many successful Davis Cup campaigns. What a laughing stock. I bet the Argentinians despise him!

Makes me wonder why there are so many Argentines playing successfully nowadays - so many named "Guillermo".

Oh, well, I'm sure there will be a whole generation of "Pete's" playing for the USA in about 10 to 15 years.

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:15 AM
Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
PeterSkan Posted: Mar 11, 2006 04:12 PM Quote
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Another:

So, Peter, give us your top 10 picks for best wins at the Australian Open by Willie based on the quality of the opponent he beat.<br>

Me:

No player is responsible for the quality of the opposition they defeat. All they can do is face the players across the net. Surely you know this? So it is pointless to say that trouncing this player or edging that player is better or worse than any other victory.

What I can tell you is that Vilas had a career record of 45 wins against 7 losses Down Under [hard and grass surfaces, no clay], or 86.5%.

Pretty shabby, mate.

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:16 AM
Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
PeterSkan Posted: Mar 11, 2006 04:31 PM Quote
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Another:

Players ARE responsible for the quality of events they enter. The Australian Open was not a strong event (i.e., after the retirements of Newcombe and Rosewall the Australian Open was a weak event until Vilas STOPPED playing this event in the early 1980s). Surely you know this?<br><br>Pretty inflated, mate.

Me:

Individual players are only responsible for qualifying for the events they enter. The quality of those events is beyond the ability of any individual player to determine.

Surely you know this! Apparently not, since your argument as quoted above correlates the Aussie Open becoming a STRONG event with the cessation of Vilas' participation. Amazing!

Nevertheless, since you raise the spectre of the great Australians, let's put the question this way:

After the weakling Vilas won the first of his 62 measly titles in November, 1973, how many victories did the vaunted Australian trio of Rosewall, Newcombe and Laver, all of whom were still playing at this time, subsequently have over the pathetic Vilas?

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:19 AM
Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
PeterSkan Posted: Mar 11, 2006 04:31 PM Quote
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Another:

Players ARE responsible for the quality of events they enter. The Australian Open was not a strong event (i.e., after the retirements of Newcombe and Rosewall the Australian Open was a weak event until Vilas STOPPED playing this event in the early 1980s). Surely you know this?<br><br>Pretty inflated, mate.

Me:

Individual players are only responsible for qualifying for the events they enter. The quality of those events is beyond the ability of any individual player to determine.

Surely you know this! Apparently not, since your argument as quoted above correlates the Aussie Open becoming a STRONG event with the cessation of Vilas' participation. Amazing!

Nevertheless, since you raise the spectre of the great Australians, let's put the question this way:

After the weakling Vilas won the first of his 62 measly titles in November, 1973, how many victories did the vaunted Australian trio of Rosewall, Newcombe and Laver, all of whom were still playing at this time, subsequently have over the pathetic Vilas?



The answer:

Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
PeterSkan Posted: Mar 11, 2006 05:52 PM Quote
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Like I said, Vilas never played Laver and Rosewall and a 30-something Newcombe only played Vilas once.

I'm sorry, Kauffman. I was referring to Rod Laver and John Newcombe and Ken Rosewall. I didn't know you were referring to other Australian players by those same last names. Because the facts indicate as follows regarding Vilas' matches against these players after he notched his first tournament win in November, 1973:

Masters, Australia
WC, 10-Dec-74, O, Grass , Draw: 8


RR Borg, Bjorn (SWE ) N/A 7-5 6-1
RR Newcombe, John (AUS ) N/A 6-4 7-6
RR Parun, Onny (NZL ) N/A 7-5 3-6 11-9
S Ramirez, Raul (MEX ) N/A 4-6 6-3 6-2 7-5
W Nastase, Ilie (ROM ) N/A 7-6 6-2 3-6 6-4


Boston, Massachusetts
GP, 26-Aug-75, O, Clay , Draw: 64


R64 Higueras, Jose (ESP ) N/A 6-2 7-5
R32 Bertolucci, Paolo (ITA ) N/A 6-2 7-5
R16 Estep, Mike (USA ) N/A 6-4 6-3
Q Laver, Rod (AUS ) N/A 6-3 6-4
S Ashe, Arthur (USA ) N/A 4-6 6-0 6-3 6-4
F Borg, Bjorn (SWE ) N/A 3-6 4-6 2-6

He did not face Rosewall after November, 1973.

If your reference to Rosewall, Newcombe and Laver was intended to mean Ken Rosewall, John Newcombe and Rod Laver:

*you are mistaken to say that Vilas never played Laver [their career h2h is 1-1]
*you are mistaken to say that Vilas never played Rosewall [Rosewall beat Vilas in their only match pre November-1973]
*you are mistaken to say that Vilas and Newcombe only played once [their career h2h is 1-1]

Vilas was undefeated by the trio of Ken Rosewall, Rod Laver, and John Newcombe after Vilas won his first of 62 tournaments in November, 1973.

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:22 AM
More banter:

Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
PeterSkan Posted: Mar 11, 2006 06:45 PM Quote
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Another:

Of course, he had a great clay court season leading up to the U.S. Open and then he beat the likes of Manuel Santana, a young Gene Mayer, a big and awkward Victor Amaya, a relatively young Jose Higueras, a relatively old Ray Moore, a moonball artist named Harold Solomon in the semis and then Jimmy Connors in the final

Me:

Sure - he had great success on clay in the summer of 1977 in the lead-up to the USO, but you're forgetting the success he had that summer on hardcourts as well, beating the likes of Tanner. Here's the complete picture:

Win # Year Date Tournament Surface Venue Final

23 1977 23-May-77 Roland Garros, France Clay O W Gottfried, Brian (USA ) N/A 6-0 6-3 6-0
24 1977 11-Jul-77 GP: Kitzbuhel, Austria Clay O W Kodes, Jan (CZE ) N/A 5-7 6-2 4-6 6-3 6-2
25 1977 18-Jul-77 GP: Washington, DC, U.S.A. Clay O W Gottfried, Brian (USA ) N/A 6-4 7-5
26 1977 25-Jul-77 GP: Louisville, KY, U.S.A. Hard O W Dibbs, Eddie (USA ) N/A 1-6 6-0 6-1
27 1977 31-Jul-77 GP: South Orange, New Jersey, USA Hard O W Tanner, Roscoe (USA ) N/A 6-4 6-1
28 1977 08-Aug-77 GP: Columbus, OH, U.S.A. Hard O W Gottfried, Brian (USA ) N/A 6-2 6-1
29 1977 31-Aug-77 US Open, NY, U.S.A. Clay O W Connors, Jimmy (USA ) N/A 2-6 6-3 7-6 6-0

PBS was carrying a lot of these finals that summer, and I was very pleased to see Vilas week after week, beating up on whomever was on the other side of the net.

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:24 AM
The banter turns its attemtion to Nastase on Grass ???

Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
PeterSkan Posted: Mar 12, 2006 11:47 AM Quote
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Kauffman:

The 1974 Grand Prix Masters does NOT make up for the weak draws at the Australian Open in 1978 and 1979. You have to look at what actually happened:<br><br>1. Why was Onny Parun involved?<br>2. Why was John Newcombe involved?<br>3. When did Newcombe know he was involved in this event?<br>4. What kind of grass court record did Borg have at the time?<br>5. What kind of grass court record did Nastase have at the time?<br><br>Without knowing what the hell you are talking about, germande, you can form your own misinformed opinions.

Me:

That's a lot of questions for germande. I'll answer question #5 for you.

Nastase had a very good record on grass up to the moment he played Vilas at the 1974 Masters. He had won the USO on grass in 1972. Also that same year he was runner-up at Wimbledon. In 1973 he went 5-0 to win the Queen's Club tourney. Including the four match victories he had before losing the Masters title to Vilas in 1974, Nastase's career grass court record was 44 wins against 8 losses, for a winning percentage of 84.6%.

I would venture to say that there are not many players who have notched as many wins in their first 52 matches on grass.

Take Pete Sampras, for example, regarded by many as the best player of all time. Pete had 9 losses on grass before he had played 30 matches on the surface, and was only 20-10 for a 66.6% success rate at 30 matches. Now, of course, he certainly picked it up after that, but it goes to show that Nastase 44-8 record on grass was not too shabby before losing to Vilas in 1974.

GVGirl
06-03-2006, 08:25 AM
Don't tell me that that Krazy Kauffman in on this board too. :)

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:27 AM
The banter turns its attemtion to Nastase on Grass ???

Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
PeterSkan Posted: Mar 12, 2006 11:47 AM Quote
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Kauffman:

The 1974 Grand Prix Masters does NOT make up for the weak draws at the Australian Open in 1978 and 1979. You have to look at what actually happened:<br><br>1. Why was Onny Parun involved?<br>2. Why was John Newcombe involved?<br>3. When did Newcombe know he was involved in this event?<br>4. What kind of grass court record did Borg have at the time?<br>5. What kind of grass court record did Nastase have at the time?<br><br>Without knowing what the hell you are talking about, germande, you can form your own misinformed opinions.

Me:

That's a lot of questions for germande. I'll answer question #5 for you.

Nastase had a very good record on grass up to the moment he played Vilas at the 1974 Masters. He had won the USO on grass in 1972. Also that same year he was runner-up at Wimbledon. In 1973 he went 5-0 to win the Queen's Club tourney. Including the four match victories he had before losing the Masters title to Vilas in 1974, Nastase's career grass court record was 44 wins against 8 losses, for a winning percentage of 84.6%.

I would venture to say that there are not many players who have notched as many wins in their first 52 matches on grass.

Take Pete Sampras, for example, regarded by many as the best player of all time. Pete had 9 losses on grass before he had played 30 matches on the surface, and was only 20-10 for a 66.6% success rate at 30 matches. Now, of course, he certainly picked it up after that, but it goes to show that Nastase 44-8 record on grass was not too shabby before losing to Vilas in 1974.



Kauffman supplies useful data on Nastase's early grass record:

Nastase had only gotten past the 4th round of Wimbledon once (1972) and only gotten past the 4th round of the U.S. Open once (1972) by the time the 1974 Masters was played.


Two-time defending champion John Newcombe was not allowed to play at Wimbledon in 1972 and he went into semi-retirement as a result of that. Laver and Rosewall were both in their 30s and past their primes by this point.



1969:

The Championships at Wimbledon
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Tom Gorman (USA) 6-3, 4-6, 6-3, 6-8, 6-4
R64 d. Pierre Barthes (FRA) 6-2, 6-4, 3-6, 6-3
R32 lost to Clark Graebner (USA) 5-7, 6-7, 4-6

U.S. Open at Forest Hills, New York
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Ian Crookenden (NZL) 4-6, 6-4, 6-3, 6-0
R64 d. Stan Smith (USA) 5-7, 12-10, 7-5, 6-3
R32 d. Ismail El Shafei (EGY) 6-0, 1-0 ret,
R16 lost to Ken Rosewall (AUS) 1-6, 5-7, 6-4, 3-6


1970:

The Championships at Wimbledon
June 22, 1970
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Onny Parun (NZL) 6-8, 6-0, 7-5, 8-6
R64 d. Cliff Richey (USA) 7-5, 1-6, 2-6, 6-4, 6-3
R32 d. Terry Ryan (RSA) 6-3, 6-1, 6-8, 4-6, 6-1
R16 lost to Clark Graebner (USA) 3-6, 0-6, 6-4, 3-6


1971:

The Championships at Wimbledon
June 21, 1971
Surface: Grass
R128 beat Ray Keldie (AUS) 1-6, 6-1, 6-3, 4-6, 10-8
R64 lost to Georges Goven (FRA) 4-6, 4-6, 2-6

U.S. Open at Forest Hills, New York
August 01, 1971
Surface: Grass
R128 beat Joaquin Loyo-Mayo (MEX) 6-2, 7-5, 6-4
R64 beat Jeff Borowiak (USA) 6-2, 6-4, 6-4
R32 lost to Bob "Nails" Carmichael (AUS) 3-6, 3-6, 6-7


1972:

The Championships at Wimbledon
June 26, 1972
Surface: Grass
R128 d. John Bartlett (AUS) 6-4, 6-2, 6-2
R64 d. Clark Graebner (USA) 6-3, 4-6, 6-1, 6-2
R32 d. Jurgen Fassbender (GER) 9-8, 6-3, 6-4
R16 d. Tom Gorman (USA) 6-3, 3-6, 8-6, 6-1
QF d. Jimmy Connors (USA) 6-4, 6-4, 6-1
SF d. Manuel Orantes (ESP) 6-3, 6-4, 6-4
F lost to Stan Smith (USA) 6-4, 3-6, 3-6, 6-4, 5-7

U.S. Open at Forest Hills, New York
August 01, 1972
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Jairo Velasco, Jr. (ESP) 6-0, 6-2, 6-0
R64 d. Roger Taylor (GBR) 7-5, 6-2, 6-7, 2-6, 7-6
R32 d. Patrice Dominguez (FRA) 6-3, 5-7, 6-2, 6-3
R16 d. Bob Hewitt (RSA) 6-4, 6-4, 6-2
QF d. Fred Stolle (AUS) 6-4, 3-6, 6-3, 6-2
SF d. Tom Gorman (USA) 4-6, 7-6, 6-2, 6-1
F d. Arthur Ashe (USA) 3-6, 6-3, 6-7, 6-4, 6-3


1973:

The Championships at Wimbledon
June 25, 1973
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Hans-Jaochim Plotz (GER) 6-3, 7-5, 6-2
R64 d. Ivan Molina (COL) 6-2, 7-9, 7-5, 6-1
R32 d. Toshiro Sakai (JPN) 7-5, 6-2, 6-4
R16 lost to Sandy Mayer (USA) 4-6, 6-8, 8-6, 4-6

U.S. Open at Forest Hills, New York
August 27, 1973
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Humphrey Hose (VEN) 6-4, 6-4, 6-3
R64 lost to Andrew Pattison (USA) 7-6, 6-2, 3-6, 4-6, 4-6


1974:

The Championships at Wimbledon
June 24, 1974
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Jiri Hrebec (CZE) 8-9, 6-3, 6-4, 6-2
R64 d. Brian Gottfried (USA) 6-3, 6-2, 9-8
R32 d. Ian Fletcher (AUS) 7-5, 6-3, 6-4
R16 lost to Dlck Stockton (USA) 7-5, 4-6, 3-6, 8-9

U.S. Open at Forest Hills, New York
August 26, 1974
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Kim Warwick (AUS) 6-2, 6-4 ret.
R64 d. Roy Barth (USA) 6-7, 6-1, 4-6, 6-1, 6-2
R32 lost to Roscoe Tanner (USA) 6-4, 7-6, 5-7, 4-6, 4-6

ALSO IN 1974:
Nastase lost in the 3rd round of Nottingham to Marty Riessen in straight sets as a tuneup for Wimbledon.

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:30 AM
Then it goes to Borg:

Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
Kauffman_the... Posted: Mar 12, 2006 01:12 PM Quote
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Someone:

Borg had some good wins on grass at Wimbledon 1973 and Forest Hills 1972 (over Ashe).

Kauffman:


First of all, Borg did not play any of the Grand Slam events in 1972.


The Championships at Wimbledon
June 25, 1973
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Premjit Lall (IND) 6-3, 6-4, 9-8
R64 d. Patrick Hombergen (BEL) 6-4, 6-2, 6-4
R32 d. Karl Meiler (GER) 6-4, 6-4, 3-6, 2-6, 6-3
R16 d. Szabolcz Baranyi (HUN) 6-3, 6-2, 6-8, 5-7, 6-1
QF Lost to Roger Taylor (GBR) 1-6, 8-6, 6-3, 3-6, 5-7

U.S. Open at Forest Hills, New York
August 27, 1973
Surface: Grass
R128 d. Roy Barth (USA) 3-6, 6-7, 6-4, 6-1, 6-2
R64 d. Jean-Baptiste Chanfreau (FRA) 7-5, 2-6, 6-1, 6-4
R32 d. Arthur Ashe (USA) 6-7, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4
R16 Lost To Nikki Pilic (YUG) 4-6, 7-5, 3-6, 4-6


... so, Borg had a grass court record of 12-6 when he went down to Melbourne to play the Grand Prix Masters in December 1974. Did you notice he never went back to Australia other than in 1981 for a series of matches with John McEnroe for mega-bucks?

PeterSkan
06-03-2006, 08:31 AM
And which led to:

Re: Vilas' Less Than Impressive Wins at Aussie Open
PeterSkan Posted: Mar 12, 2006 01:15 PM Quote
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Kauffman:

so, Borg had a grass court record of 12-6 when he went down to Melbourne to play the Grand Prix Masters in December 1974.

Me:

Same record as Pete in his first 18 matches on grass. Interesting!

GVGirl
02-09-2007, 08:22 PM
Why have I never noticed this thread before?

mmmm8
02-09-2007, 08:43 PM
Vilas has the record for the most number of singles titles for anyone not reaching the number 1 position.

This in spite of the fact that he was dealt a one-year suspension for doing what everyone else was doing - taking appearance money [actually it has been suggested that Ion Tiriac made the arrangements and Vilas had nothing to do with it].

Here's what French Open champ Noah had to say about it:

"Two days after his French Open victory he was suspended from tennis for 42 days and fined $20,000 by the Men's International Professional Tennis Council, the governing body of the sport, for failing to appear at a World Team Cup singles match in Dusseldorf in May. Admittedly not in peak form, Noah commuted to Paris between matches, losing in round-robin singles competition to Russell Simpson of New Zealand and Jose Higueras of Spain. Then, complaining of stomach cramps before his final match, Noah says that he returned to Paris, checked into a clinic and slept through his return flight.

Though he chose not to appeal the suspension, preferring to sit out Wimbledon, which he had intended to do regardless, and an undemanding Davis Cup tie against Paraguay, which France won 3-2, Noah is far from contrite. "I was at fault for not letting the tournament people know I was too sick to play," he says. "But they could have used a substitute. It was a meaningless match anyway because the French team had already been eliminated. So it seems to me that the penalty was far too great."

Much worse, Noah believes, was the one-year suspension and $20,000 fine the council imposed on his good friend Guillermo Vilas for allegedly accepting appearance money for a tournament in Rotterdam in March. The practice of under-the-table payments or "guarantees" is so widespread on the tour, says Noah, that "if you suspend Guillermo, you might also suspend the top 30 players. I just don't think it's good for the game to suspend somebody like Guillermo, a great player who has worked hard and has a good image, for an entire year."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/cover/2002/then_now/flashbacks/noah_081583/




Can you imagine a player suspended for defaulting a match these days? I'm not even going to start on appearance fees.

GVGirl
04-19-2007, 03:35 PM
Back then the 2 major tennis magazines did their own rankings which people paid more attention to, so I am told. Either Tennis or World Tennis had Vilas as #1 and the other had Borg as #1. My parents may still have those old magazines.

PeterSkan
05-22-2007, 10:34 AM
And here's the racket that he, um, racked up all those wins with. My sister bought me one of these back in 1978 or so when I was playing a lot, and I used it until about 1995, when I got it into my "head" that I should modify it to extend the handle another 4 inches or so and switch to two handed play. A thankfully abandoned experiment.

PeterSkan
05-22-2007, 10:35 AM
And here's the racket that he, um, racked up all those wins with. My sister bought me one of these back in 1978 or so when I was playing a lot, and I used it until about 1995, when I got it into my "head" that I should modify it to extend the handle another 4 inches or so and switch to two handed play. A thankfully abandoned experiment.

Vilas' vaunted fitness is well on display here!

edma1022
05-22-2007, 12:31 PM
I once read a magazine (uhm, I think it was Playboy <sheepish grin>) where Vilas was featured not for his tennis but for his poetry.

GVGirl
05-25-2007, 06:29 AM
http://f9g.yahoofs.com/groups/g_8251376/.HomePage/__sr_/30e6.jpg?grvXDWGB1VUWEHxb


My old avatar. Is this what you are talking about?

edma1022
05-25-2007, 06:36 AM
http://f9g.yahoofs.com/groups/g_8251376/.HomePage/__sr_/30e6.jpg?grvXDWGB1VUWEHxb


My old avatar. Is this what you are talking about?

No, he wasn't on the cover. He had an article inside. A thick magazine. With a rennaissance painting of him holding a quill and paper - a la Shakespeare. Focusing mostly on his poetry rather than court skills.

Gosh, must be many moons ago.

PeterSkan
05-26-2007, 08:05 PM
I once read a magazine (uhm, I think it was Playboy <sheepish grin>) where Vilas was featured not for his tennis but for his poetry.

People used to say they *really* only bought Playboy for the articles, but this is the first time I've heard someone extol its virtues for the poetry.

heheheheh

GVGirl
07-23-2007, 02:00 PM
This doesn't exactly belong here but it's Vilas related. One of my pals on the Vilas listserv sent this to me. He's having another Yoga and tennis retreat at Sugarbush in VT.
http://www.sugarbush.com/eatandstay/package.asp?id=243

edma1022
08-12-2007, 07:17 AM
I found this gem while reading tennis.com -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWpY6Qe0go0

enjoy.

GVGirl
08-12-2007, 03:28 PM
I found this gem while reading tennis.com -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWpY6Qe0go0

enjoy.

Thank you! I was at this match! I was 7 with my Dad and older brother. I didn't realize the significance of it then. That's why I'm GVGirl.

BTW, his Birthday is on Friday, not that he cares about it. LOL