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oohsalmon
04-10-2009, 04:25 PM
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Hello my fellow TATeurs!

As you well know, TATeurs love contests. And I'm a TATeur. And I love Eurovision. And now I get to share my love with you!

The Eurovision Song Contest 2009 will be held May 12, 14, and 16 in Moscow. The TAT contest will most likely only focus on the final to keep things simpler, but it's worth getting intimately familiar with all 42 entries, even if only 25 of them will make it to the final.

"But Salmon, I don't know anything about Eurovision! I won't be able to participate!"

Fear not worried TATeur! I'll teach you everything you need to know about each Eurovision entry. I'll give some background info on each country's Eurovision history, show you their current and past entries, and even introduce an ambassador from the world of tennis to guide you!

Stay tuned for all sorts of Eurovisiony goodness, and I hope to see all of you enter!

oohsalmon
04-10-2009, 04:38 PM
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Albania


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Albania was the first country to select their Eurovision 2009 entry, and through their Festivali I Kenges, selected 16-year old Kejsi Tola, and her song "Më merr në ëndërr," which has been translated and will be performed in English in Moscow.

I think it sounded better in Albanian:

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There are no real notable Albanian entries of years past to speak of. Albania has had decent ressults in the past, qualifying for the final three times on five tries, and coming in 7th, 16th, and 16th in those three finals.

Voting Patterns:
Albania very loyally gives high scores to neighbors Greece and F.Y.R. Macedonia, and those two loyally give points in return. Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, and Montenegro also could give some points.

William Hill Odds to Win:
125-1.



Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/photos/150x200/20458.jpg

There are no Albanian tennis players to speak of, so I've appointed Alberta Brianti of nearby Italy to represent the Albanian people, both because of Italy's proximity and because her name starts with "Alb."

oohsalmon
04-10-2009, 05:32 PM
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Andorra


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Teeny tiny Andorra is looking to make it's first Eurovision final in with Susanna Georgi's "La Teva Decisio / Get A Life," which will be performed in a mix of English and Catalan. Georgi is allegedly talented, but the song doesn't demand a lot from her, and sounds like it could be performed adequately by Paris Hilton.

Andorra was considered a good bet to make the finals in 2008, but was derailed by their singer Gisela's attempt to dress herself as a copper tea kettle.

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Voting Patterns:
Andorra has long been thought to be a strong competitor for a country of it's size, but due to a lack of neighbors and a complete lack of diaspora, the tiny mountain country has had a tough time wrangling votes. Andorra consistently gives big points for Spain (and will receive some votes from Spain and France, maybe Portugal). Andorra also is subject to voting for the Romania-Moldova-Ukraine trio, due to their large diasporas in Iberia.

William Hill Odds to Win:
125-1.



Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/photos/150x200/311338.jpg

Andorra isn't quite big enough to fit any tennis courts into, so there are no Andorran players, but Carla Suarez Navarro from nearby Barcelona has generously agreed to represent the Andorrans in their quest for Eurovision glory.

oohsalmon
04-10-2009, 06:19 PM
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Armenia


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Armenia's claim to being in Europe is somewhat suspect, but their strong results in Eurovision are undeniable. In their three previous performances, they have finished 8th, 8th, and 4th. This fourth entry of theirs, Jan Jan / Nor Par from sisters Inga & Anush, will test this success, as it is pretty clearly their weakest effort to date.

The attempt to duplicate last year's fourth place entry is evident, with both songs having a repeated Armenian phrase as the chorus, with English in the rest of the song.

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Voting Patterns:
Armenia has a big diaspora in both Eastern and Western Europe, which gives them a huge advantage in the televoting. They have historically received big points from Russia, Belgium, the Netherlands, France, and Turkey. Don't expect the Armenians to give Turkey any points in return, however--that whole genocide thing still sticks in their craw. Armenia is more likely to give their top points to Russia, as they have every other year.

William Hill Odds to Win:
66-1.



Tennis Ambassador:

http://rs.tennis-warehouse.com/tw/ppimg/DNALBANDIAN.JPG

Argentina's David Nalbandian is of Armenian ancestry, so he agreed to be their ambassador. The deal was contingent on there being an open buffet.

Madame
04-11-2009, 10:45 AM
My Salmon you are a crazy guy. Those songs are all terrible and Eurovision is the sumum of "Ringard" !!! :cheesy:

This is going to be fun !!!

oohsalmon
04-11-2009, 10:53 AM
My Salmon you are a crazy guy. Those songs are all terrible and Eurovision is the sumum of "Ringard" !!! :cheesy:

This is going to be fun !!!

:cheesy:

oohsalmon
04-11-2009, 11:20 AM
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Azerbaijan


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Armenia's claim to Europeanness looks slightly more legitimate when compared with Azerbaijan's, who are undeniably in Asia. But they are allowed to compete, and are a betting favorite in early speculation.

AySel, the female singer in this duet entry, is the potential wild card here. She sounds decent in the studio produced track, but the couple times I have heard her live she has been decidedly less than mediocre. All Eurovision vocals must be performed live, and a stinker of a performance by her could derail the Azerbaijani hopes.
This is only Azerbaijan's second year in the competition, so it's tough to say with 100% certainty what their support from other countries is like, but judging from last year, their support looks strong. Their piece of crap 2008 entry was not only completely cacophonic and amelodic, it was also just kinda scary.

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Whether it was out of fear or loyalty to Azerbaijan, Europe voted for Elnur and Samir in a big way, putting them in eighth, which is pretty incredible when one considers how atrocious the song is.

Voting Patterns:
According to any Eurovision enthusiasts from the two countries who know about these things, Turkey and Azerbaijan consider each other brothers or something, so their awarding 12 points to each other is virtually guaranteed. The Azerbaijani diaspora is pretty spread out, especially in Eastern Europe, so expect them to get lots of votes from a pretty wide spread of countries.

William Hill Odds to Win:
20-1. (Fifth best)



Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/5/photos/headshots/main/A226_AS.jpg

Azerbaijan doesn't have much of a tennis tradition (despite a tournament in Baku), so again I am forced to look outside its borders for an ambasssador. My search yielded Morocco's Hicham Arazi, who some of you hopefully remember. Morocco once competed in Eurovision, and "Arazi" vaguely sounds like "Azeri." Good enough for me!

oohsalmon
04-11-2009, 12:01 PM
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Belarus


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
With one exception, the Belarussian entries have always been absolute crap. This year's effort from Petr Elfimov is no exception. Lyrics that are pretty much just one cliche listed after another

The one good entry Belarus has had came in 2007, from singer/magician Dmitry Koldun with "Work Your Magic." The performance included magical walls and blindingly white teeth, a guaranteed recipe for success.

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Voting Patterns:
Belarus has only made the finals once, so it's tough to say who gives them big points. But who Belarus gives their 12 points to will be no mystery: Russia. Belarus has a large Russian population, and is still extremely tied to their enormous neighbor to the east.

William Hill Odds to Win:
150-1



Tennis Ambassador:

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Finally! A country that can have an ambassador who is actually from that country! Victoria Azarenka (standing in front of the Belarussian flag), is quite a loud shrieker, which almost guarantees that she enjoys Eurovision.[/quote]

oohsalmon
04-11-2009, 12:38 PM
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Belgium


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Frustrated by the obstacles Western European countries face in Eurovision (lack of diasporas, less inclination toward neighborly vote exchanges), Belgium has sent some pretty weird stuff to Eurovision in the past few years. Last year's entry was in a completely made up language. This year they send an Elvis impersonator. Why not?

Belgium was especially frustrated by the legitimately famous singer Kate Ryan's inability to make it past the semifinals with her song "Je T'Adore" in 2006.

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Indignant at Kate's failure to make the final, Belgium decided to express their outrage the best way they knew how--with a cardboard sign.

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Voting Patterns:
Belgium is one of the many more affluent Western European countries whose voting is pretty much all determined by their immigrant communities.
Armenia, Turkey, and Greece will receive big points from the Belgians. Maybe the Netherlands will as well if the Dutch make it into the final (not gonna happen).

William Hill Odds to Win:
66-1 (Way too low)



Tennis Ambassador:

http://cmp.roularta.be/cmdata/Images/site72/nieuws/mensen/mensen_d/heninhardenne200.jpg

As if there could be any doubt. The best Eurovision ambassador imaginable, His Fabulousness Pierre-Yves Hardenne will bring his unique flair to the Belgian elements of this contest. HFPY may also provide some running commentary as the rest of the entries are detailed. His informed damnation or approval could be the difference between success and agony for some of these acts.

Madame
04-11-2009, 02:41 PM
:sick:

oooooooooooooh salmon I am sick.
I promised myself I would look at each, but I don't know if I will make it.

I think one of these songs a day is enough to feel lousy all day, but 6 !
ouch.

oohsalmon
04-11-2009, 06:48 PM
:sick:

oooooooooooooh salmon I am sick.
I promised myself I would look at each, but I don't know if I will make it.

I think one of these songs a day is enough to feel lousy all day, but 6 !
ouch.

They will get better (sort of) as the alphabet marches on! Bosnia & Herzegovina is on the horizon, and they're pretty good.

And I'm keeping it to three a day, for your sanity :D.

jjnow
04-11-2009, 07:05 PM
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I couldn't get past "his" resemblance to Elena Vesnina.

oohsalmon
04-12-2009, 06:30 AM
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Bosnia & Herzegovina


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
The three strongest blocs in Eurovision voting are the former Soviet republics, Scandinavia, and the former Yugoslav countries. Even though they were at war with each other well within even the youngest TATeur's lifetime, the Yugoslav states (Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, F.Y.R. Macedonia) have combined their powers for "good," voting for each other without fail. The competition to be the best Yugoslav entry is an important sub-contest, with the best of the six entries almost certainly racking up big points from the others, and automatically a threat to take the title.

Conventional wisdom has the Bosnian entry, Bistra Voda from the rock band Regina, as one of the two best songs from the Yugoslavs this year, the other being Montenegro. Bosnians are a much bigger ethnic group than Montenegrins, which should help them, but they're also much smaller than the Serbians, who could take the Yugoslav crown for the third year in a row on the strength of demographics alone.

The Bosnians have a long-standing tradition of sending mournful, maudlin, ethnic ballads to Eurovision, a likely reflection of their less than upbeat recent history. Bistra Voda is no exception. You can practically hear the poor guy's village burning down in his voice, every drumbeat a landmine in the distance.

The Bosnians did go upbeat and fun for once last year, with extremely awesome results.

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Voting Patterns:
Bosnia will give points to Serbia, Montenegro, and F.Y.R. Macedonia, likely in that order. Those three will give them back, and Croatia, and Slovenia will throw in some likely unreciprocated points. The Bosnian diaspora could also make some noise, likely in the form of points from countries including Switzerland, Slovakia, and Hungary.

William Hill Odds to Win:
28-1



Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.tennis-x.com/images/players/Delic_05_tn.jpg
He plays under the Stars & Stripes, but Amer Delic is Bosnia's ambassador to the tennis world. When he's not quelling riots in Melbourne, Delic can be found in a qualifying draw near you!

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"The whole French Revolution wardrobe? Been there, done that, Bosnia. Or did Coldplay's Viva La Vida tour skip Sarajevo? But the waving red flags I like. Yearning for the good ol' days of socialism is so in right now. And Amer's Delish!"

oohsalmon
04-12-2009, 10:52 PM
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Bulgaria


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Bulgarian entries rarely focus on melody. Rather, they focus on being INTENSE. I imagine Bulgarians backstage pounding their chests, unleashing primal screams and punching each other in the face just to get fired up.

While they're beating the crap out of each other this year while dressed up as knights, their peak fifth place finish (and only appearance in the finals) in 2007 saw a Bulgarian laddie and lass beat the crap out of some drums.

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Voting Patterns:
Bulgaria will give maximum points to Greece, points that will be reciprocated if Bulgaria makes the final. Points to Armenia and Turkey should be expected as well.

William Hill Odds to Win:
300-1 (Last)



Tennis Ambassador:

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When she's not faking teen pregnancies as a way to somehow save face, Sesil Karatantcheva will be here to answer any and all questions you may have for her. And we're in luck, because when it comes to Sesil, the answer is most always "Yes!"

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"That chain mail should be much more form fitting. The dungeon and the siamese twins joined at the braid are a great touch. And Bulgaria manages to use midgets tastefully, which is always a challenge. And I don't care what you say, Sesil, I am NOT the father."

oohsalmon
04-14-2009, 12:04 AM
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Croatia


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Croatia has brought some great stuff to Eurovision in the past. Sadly, this year's entry is not up to their usual standards. It's pretty dull, and there is NO reason for it to be a duet. She does almost nothing in the song. Boo Croatia.

It's a shame, because Croatia had been on a roll lately. Last year they combined an Italian-style ballad with a 75-year old rapper:

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And two years ago they put out this AMAZING turbofolk number:

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A Croatian act has won Eurovision, though under the Yugoslavian flag back in 1989. This vintage Eurovision entry is NOT to be missed.

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Voting Patterns:
Croatia gives big points to Bosnia & Herzegovina and Serbia, and will get points from those two, Slovenia, and Hungary. It's tough to predict how many points they give to Montenegro, as Montenegro has never made a final before, so Croatia has never had the opportunity to vote for them.

William Hill Odds to Win:
300-1 (Tied for Last)



Tennis Ambassador:

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With Scotty's blessing, the Croatian ambassador for Eurovision is Goran Ivanisevic. Scotty says Ivanisevic is just like Eurovision: sometimes good, sometimes terrible, always nuts.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"The matador look is horrible. But it does match this song, which is complete bull. If only Goran were on stage for them. That cat can still get me meowing."

oohsalmon
04-14-2009, 12:56 AM
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Cyprus


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Cyprus' dull little ditty will likely leave them stuck in the semifinal. It's cute enough, but not memorable. Cyprus hasn't made the final since 2005, a streak unlikely to end this year. Cyprus has never finished inside the top four (though they have finished fifth three times).

The Cypriots haven't sent a ton of real memorable stuff of late. Last year's entry did feature a fun table though.

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Voting Patterns:
Cyprus is most notable in Eurovision not for their entries, but for their voting. Of all the countries that have been in Eurovision for over a decade, they are by FAR the most loyal. Every year, without fail, Cyprus gives their highest score (12 points) to Greece. This should be no surprise to anyone who has seen the Greek flags wave for Baghdatis in Melbourne year after year. The Cypriots and Greeks see each other as essentially the same people. Note when the Cypriot spokesperson in this clip says something about "We Greeks," and you'll see.

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And Cyprus will certainly not give any points to Turkey, their sworn nemesis.

William Hill Odds to Win:
200-1



Tennis Ambassador:

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Marcos Baghdatis is about as appropriate a Eurovision ambassador as one could hope for. A showman and attention whore whose fans wave flags fanatically, Marcos would feel very much at home on the Eurovision stage.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Yawn. I put the cucumbers over my eyes and took a nap. I woke up looking even more fabulous, if that's possible."

oohsalmon
04-14-2009, 01:29 AM
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Czech Republic


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
For reasons I can't figure out, the Czechs didn't enter Eurovision for the first time until 2007, despite Slovakia entering as early as 1994. The previous two Czech entries have been pretty dull, but this year's entry is a lot of fun. Presented by the Roma (the ethnic group better known as "gypsies") rap group Gipsy.cz, the song "Aven Romale" makes gypsy superheroes cool again! Fun, lighthearted, and ridiculous, I am hoping that the Czechs get to the final for the first time on the strength of this entry.

Here is the fun music video for Aven Romale:

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Voting Patterns:
This is the first year the Czechs and Slovaks will have been in the contest together--their giving each other big points would seem only natural. The Czechs have in their two past years given big points to both Armenia and Ukraine, both of which have big diasporas in the Czech Republic.

William Hill Odds to Win:
300-1 (Tied for last)

Yeah, I like 'em, but I'd be surprised to see em do anything.



Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/sport/slideshow/couples/img_8.jpg

Surprised? Tomas Berdych and Lucie Safarova will be a duet of ambassadors for the Czechs. They're both injured a lot, so hopefully at least one of them will be healthy to answer any questions you may have.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Spandex is ALWAYS a yes. But the gypsies I don't like. They touch my Louis Vuitton!"

Madame
04-14-2009, 05:00 AM
yuch, Cyprus is totally off (she really sings false). Made me cringe. The Czech thing is ok.

oohsalmon
04-14-2009, 05:43 AM
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Denmark


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
With Denmark's arrival we now have representation from all the major voting blocs. And Denmark's bloc is a formidable one--Scandinavians know how to make some generic pop. And they bloc vote like a mofo.

Last year's Eurovision winning song was called "Believe," so the Danes got together and decided the likely winner of the next Eurovision would be called "Believe Again." Makes sense, I suppose...

Generic has been the word for the Danes the past few years of Eurovision, and this year is no exception. You all are probably hearing this song for the first time, and yet thinking you've heard it somewhere before. Well you pretty much have. The recipe for this song is simple: a dash of Creed, a dash of The Fray, a dash of Lifehouse, and a generous scoop of lack of originality.

Denmark went for pretty generic pop last year too, but at least then it was mixed with an oddly aggressive man dressed up with Oliver Twist.

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Voting Patterns:

The Scandinavian bloc isn't the subject of as much western ire as the Eastern blocs are, but it's just as powerful and biased. The Scandinavians managed to go 5 for 5 last year, getting all five (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland) of their entries into the final. Pretty impressive.

The Vikings look to be in good shape to do it again this year, with all five again providing relatively strong efforts. The Danes could actually be the weak link in the chain, but that's only because the other four are all having big years.

Within the Scandinavian bloc, you'd usually expect the Danes to assign points to Sweden, Norway, Iceland, and Finland in descending order. But Norway's entry this year could be a juggernaut that leaves the Danes bypassing their normal exchange with the Swedes.

You might expect the Danes to trade big points with their only land neighbor, Germany, but you'd be wrong. They keep their points largely northbound.

William Hill Odds to Win:
66-1



Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/5/photos/headshots/main/P491_AS.jpg

The Danish Ambassador bringing you all Legos from Copenhagen is Kristian Pless. Caroline Wozniacki's Danishness is a bit suspect, and besides, Kristian truly looks like he could hop onto the Eurovision stage at any moment. That face has clearly seen the business end of a tanning bed more than once.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Seeing him in that mist machine in the video...Yum. I like 'em wet...and squinting."

suliso
04-14-2009, 06:01 AM
I wonder what is better - decent but boring and forgettable entry(Denmark) or a complete crap, but at least something others might remember (Bulgaria ?)...

By the way Danes do occasionally show some originality in music:

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Perhaps the best song ever from that country. :)

oohsalmon
04-14-2009, 07:30 AM
I wonder what is better - decent but boring and forgettable entry(Denmark) or a complete crap, but at least something others might remember (Bulgaria ?)...

By the way Danes do occasionally show some originality in music:

Perhaps the best song ever from that country. :)

And therein lies the question at the heart of the Eurovision Song Contest :).

Denmark could be in some trouble this year, as Norway is the only real ally of theirs in their semifinal. Allies will vote for something boring, but non-allies often need to be drawn in with a big spectacle. If Denmark is going to make it to the final (which I personally hope they don't), they're going to need a pretty big stage act. Something to make it more memorable.

oohsalmon
04-15-2009, 07:34 AM
Pretty good songs coming up in this stretch of the alphabet. If you have turned away before, time to turn back now!

oohsalmon
04-15-2009, 08:37 AM
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Estonia


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Urban Symphony is one of the front runners to win Eurovision this year, one of the two favorites that includes a singer/violinist. Those are SO in right now.

Estonia hasn't made the Eurovision final since the semifinal was introduced in 2004. This is of course, karmic retribution for their having contaminated Eurovision's good name with the WORST. WINNING. SONG. EVER.

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Voting Patterns:

Estonia is in a pretty interesting geopolitical place in terms of Eurovision bloc voting. Though well placed in the Baltic mini-bloc, the Estonians mostly find themselves on the periphery of the Soviet and Scandinavian blocs, straddling the two, not fully in either. While this hurts them greatly when they have a poor song, when they have a strong entry it helps a lot. Look for both the Scandinavian and Soviet blocs to throw points at Estonia, a combination of forces that could add up to big success.

For Estonia's part, expect them to give points to Russia, Latvia, Finland, and Sweden.

William Hill Odds to Win:
25-1 (Seventh)



Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.tennisclub.ee/pildid/file126_maret_le_coq_uus_2.jpg

Kaia Kanepi is about as un-Eurovisionlicious as you can get, so I've turned to Estonian #2 Maret Ani to be your ambassador for this potential winner. It's a big responsibility, but Maret, who clearly understands the power of tight clothing, is certainly ready for it.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Love the bangs, but really Estonia...You get to put six people on the stage, and not one of yours is a man? For shame."

oohsalmon
04-15-2009, 12:34 PM
You can download all the Eurovision songs for free!

http://eurovision2009downloads.blogspot.com/

oohsalmon
04-15-2009, 04:52 PM
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Finland


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Eurodance music and homeless people. Is there a better possible combination???

Finland, three years removed from their record setting Eurovision win, comes with a strong effort this year. In the grand tradition of Aqua and The Real McCoy, the combination of robotic talk-singing and a female vocalist is a grand European one.

With a good stage presentation, this should be a contender.

And Finland knows how to put together a stage show. Here is Finnish 2006 Winner Lordi, who won the contest with a record 292 points. All but three countries (Albania, Turkey, and Monaco) gave points to Finland, a record. Finland even got some twelve point scores from countries well outside their bloc, including Greece

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Voting Patterns:

Finland's place in the Eurovision voting is similar to Estonia's. They're pretty firmly in the Scandinavian bloc, and a little in the Balkan bloc, with their closest allies being Sweden and Estonia. Their neighbor Russia could throw them some points as well.

William Hill Odds to Win:
33-1



Tennis Ambassador:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/amierin/Davis%20Cup/1.jpg

Jarkko Nieminen will be the ambassador for the Finns. Who else would it be? Emma Laine? Plus with Jarkko it's a 2-for-1, as his badminton-playing wife Anu can also share her thoughts.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Trash barrel fires are so hot right now."

oohsalmon
04-16-2009, 12:07 AM
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France


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
France is the first of the "Big Four" we encounter in our alphabetical voyage from Europe. The Big Four (France, Germany, Spain, and the United Kingdom) are automatically qualified for the final, along with the host country, which this year is Russia.

France decided to send a talented, classically-trained singer with a good, meaningful song. Is this a horrible mistake? The buzz around "Et S'I'l Fallait Le Faire" is that it's too good to be a Eurovision song. Will the effort transcend and dominate, or miss the mark completely? Only time will tell.

I personally prefer the French singing in amazing Franglais.

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Voting Patterns:

France gives their biggest points to three countries with large diasporas in France: Armenia, Turkey, and Portugal.

France doesn't tend to receive much of any votes from anybody of recent. If they were to receive votes, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Switzerland, Malta, Germany and the UK would seem the most likely candidates to give them.

William Hill Odds to Win:
33-1



Tennis Ambassador:

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Skanky clothing and Eastern Europe connections are just part of what Tatiana Golovin such an amazing ambassador for France. Her joie de vivre, ability to consider underwear color when planning an outfit, and ability to surprise with both big wins and horrendous losses are also good. Tatiana isn't doing much these days, and will be here to field any questions about the French or any other entry.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Finalement, une chansons en francais! I have no idea if I speak any other languages. My resume just says "Fluent in French and Fabulousness."

oohsalmon
04-16-2009, 04:16 PM
So before we get to the controversial section of the alphabet, anyone have any thoughts? Who do people like most? Hate most?

oohsalmon
04-16-2009, 09:22 PM
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Georgia


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Georgia, understandably, is not too fond of Russia, the country that invaded them this past summer during the South Ossetia War. So in their national selection show, the Georgians selected a catchy little disco number called "We Don't Wanna Put In." Sounds innocuous enough, except when you realize that the "Put" is said like "poot," which makes the title sound more like "We Don't Wanna Putin," ie Russia's Vladimir Putin.

And the rest of the lyrics raised even more Russian eyebrows:

We don't wanna put in
The negative move
Is killing the groove

I'm a-tryin' to shoot in
Some disco tonight
Boogie with you

Not happy with a guest insulting them while they were hosting, Russia protested to the European Broadcast Union, Eurovision's governing body. And the EBU agreed, and banned the lyrics, requesting a new song or that these lyrics be adjusted. Georgia refused, and disapproved.

The real shame is that Russia invaded Georgia even after blind singer Diana Gurtskaya predicted that peace would come. Can't blame her for not seeing the tanks coming, though, being blind and all...

But her costume change is pretty impressive!

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Voting Patterns:
They won't be voting or voted for, so it's not too relevant, really. But if you're curious, Armenia would be getting the big Georgian points.

William Hill Odds to Win:
OFF



Tennis Ambassador:

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She does compete for Russia, but Anna Chakvetadze has Georgian roots, and is certainly one who loves a good protest. Fired up for any nationalistic competition, Anna will scream advice at you while pounding her chest and getting her hair stuck in anything in the vicinity of her head.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Oh Russia, forget the lyrics! How dare you keep any disco out of the competition!"

Scotty
04-16-2009, 09:30 PM
well, the disco beat was pretty fun, but that spoken word section ruined it for me.

Poor sportsmanship by the Russians, if you ask me.

oohsalmon
04-16-2009, 09:49 PM
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Germany


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Germany, the second member of the big four we encounter here, has decided to go with a swing number for Eurovision 2009. Because swing is SO in right now...

It's not a bad little number, but Germany has a tough time getting points from anybody ever. It's fairly catchy, and could have a nice presentation in Moscow. This is a good time to mention that there is a limit of six people on stage for any Eurovision act, which means that the Germans can't bring the whole big band along with 'em.

While their swing isn't bad, Germany's country is really good, shockingly.

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Voting Patterns:

The enormous Turkish diaspora ensures that big points will go from Germany to Turkey. Greece and Serbia also have a sizeable populations that can get big parts of the German vote.

William Hill Odds to Win:
300-1 (Last)



Tennis Ambassador:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40842000/jpg/_40842536_haasap.jpg

Eurovision, ultimately, is 90% narcissism. Some fairly untalented person demanding the attention of an entire continent for three minutes, asking for their love. And when it comes to narcissism, does the world of tennis have anyone better to offer than Germany's Tommy Haas? Be it his attention-seeking bitchiness in pressers, his attention seeking inability to practice with a shirt on, or his attention-seeking on-court tantrums, Tommy is clearly a man who would love a shot at the Eurovision stage, and will make a fetch ambassador for Deutschland.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Shiny collar surrounding an open shirt? That is a recipe for fabulousness if I ever saw one."

mmmm8
04-17-2009, 09:47 AM
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France


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Agree that Kaas is too good for Eurovision, but she is extremely popular in Russia, I'm guessing she might get top points from us. By the way, she looks exactly the same as she did 15 years ago.

The song itself is a little boring, though

oohsalmon
04-17-2009, 11:18 AM
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Greece


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Take a deep breath. I know after watching that you wanna punch Sakis Rouvas in the face. That response is normal, no need to be alarmed.

There are SO many things to hate about Sakis. Here is a partial summary of a few of the reasons:


He doesn't sing at ALL. He just kinda talks rhythmically, with music in the background.
The extreme close-ups to show off the botox.
He could NOT be more of a whore.
The way he acts like he's 23. He's 37! Not that there's anything wrong with being 37, but he's in denial and it nervouses me.
You can guarantee he'll take off at least one article of clothing during his performance, just like he did in 2004, when he represented Greece and came in third. ViQNrTIAM4o
The tasteful photoshoots!
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It's a shame it has to be Sakis for Greece the year many of you are finding Eurovision for the first time, because Greece usually brings some really amazing stuff to Eurovision. Repetitive stuff, but amazing.

You saw Sakis' "Shake It" earlier, which you may later blend together with Sarbel's effort for Greece, with it's chorus of "Shake It Up, Shake It Up." From 2007:
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The other Greek trend of late is the red-haired woman. The two formulas have pretty much alternated of late. A good example of that formula later on.

Voting Patterns:

Greece, as previously mentioned, will get guaranteed 12 points from Cyprus. Albania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, the UK, and Germany are also very likely to give the Greeks big points.

Greece, except where Cyprus is concerned, is one of the less politically biased voting countries, so they will probably give top points to the song they think is best. What a concept!

William Hill Odds to Win:
The scary thing about Sakis is that he may very well win.

7-1 (Second)



Tennis Ambassador:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0M_KdlZIAtk/SEhv5p1E4VI/AAAAAAAAHpk/6-4qvgfeSiA/s400/dinapress1.JPG

During her run to the finals of the French Open last year, some journalist I've never met but have fallen in love with asked Dinara Safina her thoughts on the recent Eurovision competition.


Q. Did you have a chance to watch the Eurovision the other night?


DINARA SAFINA: Yeah, I did watch.


Q. What did you think?


DINARA SAFINA: I don't say any comments. Good that Russian won, but I don't give any comments. I really liked Greece, actually.


Q. What did you think of the Russian song?


DINARA SAFINA: It's okay. I have it on my iPhone. But, I think that Greece was more ‑‑ just that song that has like a sad story. If you see the video, as in Russia we have this video for this song, then you understand a little bit more because they really could not do much on this small place.
But as entertainment, I think the Greece were better. But the problem is too many countries before belonged to Russia [in the USSR] they could not vote for other countries.


Dinara was right, Greece was amazing in 2008. And their singer, Kalomira, is from one of the more distant Greek Islands. Specifically, Long Island.

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So for her support of the Greek cause, Dinara Safina is the tennis ambassador for Greece.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Sakis = Yum. That's really all there is to say."

Scotty
04-17-2009, 04:46 PM
OK, this year's Sakis song is kind of like a fungus. At first, you're like "ew!" but it grows on you anyway. I could totally see it winning.

rabbit
04-17-2009, 06:45 PM
I liked Estonia a lot!

No Zuzana?

oohsalmon
04-18-2009, 12:16 PM
OK, this year's Sakis song is kind of like a fungus. At first, you're like "ew!" but it grows on you anyway. I could totally see it winning.

No matter how long that fungus is on me, I will keep saying "ew!"

oohsalmon
04-18-2009, 12:18 PM
I liked Estonia a lot!

No Zuzana?

No Zuz for now... ;)

And Estonia is really good! I'd be totally okay with them winning.

jjnow
04-18-2009, 12:30 PM
The real shame is that Russia invaded Georgia even after blind singer Diana Gurtskaya predicted that peace would come. Can't blame her for not seeing the tanks coming, though, being blind and all...


ROFL. You are so wrong for that.

oohsalmon
04-18-2009, 12:57 PM
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Hungary


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Hungary first competed in Eurovision in 1994, but hasn't entered consistently. 2009 actually marks the first time that Hungary will have entered three years in a row.

And this year, they make the third time a charm! "Dance With Me" is danceable, shallow, and full of costume changes --everything you could hope for in a Eurovision song. Not expected to do too well, but still a nice fun little entry.

Hungary finished DFL in last year's semifinals. So to be nice, I give you their last top ten finish, from 2007. Not very Eurovisiony at all.

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Voting Patterns:

Hungary generally does a pretty good job of voting for good songs. They gave 12 to Azerbaijan last year, which means they probably will again this year. Nearby Serbia, Croatia, Slovakia and Romania might also be good bets for point exchanges.

William Hill Odds to Win:
200-1



Tennis Ambassador:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4840/szavay.png

Blonde, busty, inconsistent, and Eastern European, Agnes Szavay is perfect as a Eurovision ambassador for her native Hungary. She's also changed clothing almost as much as this year's singer, so she should be well prepared for the challenges ahead.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Costumes! I love putting on clothing almost as much as I love taking it off!"

oohsalmon
04-18-2009, 01:29 PM
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Iceland


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Iceland hasn't had a ton of success since bloc voting became more prevalent in the last decade or so. But not for lack of effort.

2006 was easily Iceland's most memorable entry.

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As if that wasn't ridiculous enough, watch her flip out after she didn't qualify for the final!

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Voting Patterns:

Iceland will be loyal as always to the rest of Scandinavia, and should expect the same loyalty in return. I'll guess Norway and Sweden each give Iceland 10 this year.

William Hill Odds to Win:
33-1



Tennis Ambassador:

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I don't really have any rationale for naming Richard Gasquet the Icelandic Ambassador, but I really feel as though keeping Richie away from Eurovision would be a crime.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Iceland is terribly cold! Any country where I can't comfortably wear my mankini on the streets 365 days a year is not a country I want anything to do with."

oohsalmon
04-18-2009, 07:59 PM
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Ireland


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:
Ireland has won Eurovision more than any other country, winning the contest seven times, most recently in 1996, when they won their fourth title in five years.

They have struggled since then, however, only qualifying from the semifinals once since the semis were introduced, as well as coming in dead last in 2007.

Largely in response to the 2007 last place finish, the Irish sent Dustin the Turkey in 2008, making Eurovision history as the first puppet in the competition.

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Voting Patterns:

Ireland gives points to the UK, as well as the three Eastern European countries with the biggest diasporas in Ireland: Poland, Latvia, and Lithuania. Ireland has a tough time getting points, but if they're getting any, the UK, Portugal, and France would be the best bets.

William Hill Odds to Win:
100-1



Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/photos/150x200/120339.jpg

The only Irish tennis player anyone's ever heard of, Kelly Liggan. And yes, I know you've never heard of her.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"If Lillix had been bad, it would have sounded like this. But we all know Lillix was the BEST! BAND! EVER!"

wycombe7
04-19-2009, 04:19 AM
Ireland deliberately tried to lose afer they won it so many times - since they almost went bankrupt hosting it!

oohsalmon
04-19-2009, 07:42 AM
Ireland deliberately tried to lose afer they won it so many times - since they almost went bankrupt hosting it!

LOL I had heard that! I think they've switched back to trying now--they were pretty good in 2006, and actually are the only Western European country to finish in the top ten anytime in the last three years. Though I'm pretty sure RTE won't have to flip the bill for Eurovision 2010...

oohsalmon
04-19-2009, 09:16 AM
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Israel


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

I know, Israel has very little claim to being in Europe, but the European Broadcasting Union doesn't care. Israel has been competing in Eurovision for decades, and has won the contest three times.

This year Israel sends the politically charged "There Must Be Another Way," a duet between Israeli Noa and Arab-Israeli Mira Awad, a pairing that has sparked death threats against Awad from across the Middle East.

Israel's most recent winner was nearly as controversial, with the transgendered Dana International winning for Israel back in 1998.

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Voting Patterns:

Israel gives big points to Russia due to the high number of Russian immigrants there, but other than that patterns are tough to track down. Israel is pretty isolated from the rest of Europe, which makes them pretty neutral.

William Hill Odds to Win:
66-1



Tennis Ambassador:

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Small, chipper and bouncy, Dudi Sela makes a great ambassador for Israel. I really couldn't pick either of their women -- Eurovision is not about being grouchy.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"The idea is nice, but these vocals make me wanna do the opposite of ending a war..."

oohsalmon
04-20-2009, 01:23 PM
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Latvia


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

The country I plan on representing in Eurovision someday, Latvia, brings Probka to Eurovision, a song in Russian designed to appeal to the crowd in Moscow. It won the Latvian selection competition as "Sastrēgums," in Latvian, but was switched into Russian later. A song not sung in English or the native tongue of the country has never won, so it's an interesting risk.

My first night in Europe last summer, I was super jetlagged. I passed out in my bed in the middle of the afternoon with the TV on, and woke up to the following performance. For me and Eurovision, it was love at first site.

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Voting Patterns:

Like Estonia, Latvia feels some connection to Scandinavia, a connection that is not reciprocated by the Scandinavians. Latvia will give big points to their three neighbors: Russia, Lithuania, and Estonia, and will get points from Lithuania, Estonia, and Ireland and the UK, where there are sizeable Latvian populations.

William Hill Odds to Win:
300-1 (Last)



Tennis Ambassador:

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He started out as an actor, so Ernests Gulbis knows what it's like to be a double threat. Double threatdom is the key to Eurovision success. Ernests will answer any and all questions about Latvia for you, but feels uncomfortable doing any interviews that don't take place with him in a bed.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"I must be part Latvian, because I love being pirate! When we would hang out in the ATP locker room together, Justine would always say 'Is that a wooden leg in your pants or are you just happy to see me?' And I, of course, would say 'neither!'"

mmmm8
04-20-2009, 01:49 PM
That Probka ("traffic jam") song is horrendous. They're trying to imitate Latvia's 2000 entry Brainstorm, who placed 3rd and have since made it big in Russia with songs translated into Russian, but Brainstorm is actually an awesome rock band with a great frontman, and this is crap.

But I bet they'll get Russia's votes for the gesture.

oohsalmon
04-20-2009, 02:25 PM
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Lithuania


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

No Eurovision country is more inconsistant than Lithuania. Alternating between brilliance and crap, Lithuania comes this year with a kind of nice R&B song that could fit in pretty well on American radio.

Lithuania brought us my second favorite Eurovision entry ever, the amazing "We Are The Winners," from 2006. (They were not the winners, but horrified the Eurovision community by coming in sixth).

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Voting Patterns:

Lithuania will get big points from Ireland, Poland, Belarus and Latvia, and will give big points to Latvia, Russia, Poland, and Belarus.

William Hill Odds to Win:
66-1



Tennis Ambassador:

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The first next big thing in Lithuanian Tennis, Ricardas Berankis! The vaguely promising junior will be the ambassador for the Lithuanians.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"I wish he was wearing just the hat..."

oohsalmon
04-20-2009, 02:30 PM
We're now over half way through our Tour de Eurovision!

What songs does everybody like most? Least? Most in the middle?

suliso
04-20-2009, 03:12 PM
That Probka ("traffic jam") song is horrendous. They're trying to imitate Latvia's 2000 entry Brainstorm, who placed 3rd and have since made it big in Russia with songs translated into Russian, but Brainstorm is actually an awesome rock band with a great frontman, and this is crap.

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And don't ask me why we chose it. #2 and #3 songs in the national finals made much more sense...

P.S. I didn't know Brainstorm (sounds weird in English) is popular in Russia.

mmmm8
04-20-2009, 04:24 PM
:yes:

And don't ask me why we chose it. #2 and #3 songs in the national finals made much more sense...

P.S. I didn't know Brainstorm (sounds weird in English) is popular in Russia.

They are right up there with big Russian bands, and they've done some awesome duets with a couple. I prefer their own songs in Latvian, sounds more genuine, but the Russian lyrics are generally good too. They also use the same melodies for songs in English, usually with different and pretty lame lyrics. His voice just doesn't work in English, although "Thunder without Rain" sounds good. Does Prata Vetra mean anything close to Brainstorm? They also used to go by "Four Shores" in English.

suliso
04-20-2009, 04:33 PM
They are right up there with big Russian bands, and they've done some awesome duets with a couple. I prefer their own songs in Latvian, sounds more genuine, but the Russian lyrics are generally good too. They also use the same melodies for songs in English, usually with different and pretty lame lyrics. His voice just doesn't work in English, although "Thunder without Rain" sounds good. Does Prata Vetra mean anything close to Brainstorm? They also used to go by "Four Shores" in English.

Yes, direct translation would be Mind storm.

They've been popular here for a very long time (since mid 90-ties).

oohsalmon
04-23-2009, 12:10 PM
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(Former Yugoslav Republic of) Macedonia


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

Even though it rarely has to go by this moniker, Greece's insistence in the Macedonia Naming Dispute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute) forces the hosts of Eurovision to say this clunker of a name both in English AND French. Quelle dommage!

Macedonia sends the rockiest song of Eurovision 2009, which should help them stand out some. Macedonia often qualifies for the final, rarely does anything of note once it gets there, never having broken the top ten in eight tries.

I was a fan, though, of their 2007 effort. If the whole thing had been in English instead of just the last third, I bet it would have made the top ten.

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Voting Patterns:

Macedonia will give big points to Albania, if they make the final. They're also fond of giving points to Serbia, Greece, Croatia, and Turkey. They'll get points from Albania and Croatia, maybe with a little Slovenia thrown in for good measure.

William Hill Odds to Win:
300-1 (Last)



Tennis Ambassador:

http://media.a1.com.mk/media/vesti/lazar-magdincev1.jpg

But of course, the Macedonian ambassador is none other than Lazar Magdincev! In my latest tennis elbow playing, this feisty Macedon made it all the way into the top 100! For everything you ever wanted to know about Macedonia, just ask Lazar! He doesn't look like the friendliest of fellows, so don't be surprised if he tries to bite your fingers off.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"L'Ex-Yougoslave Republique de Macedoine? Not the kind of mouthful I enjoy."

oohsalmon
04-24-2009, 12:32 PM
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Malta


2009 Eurovision Song:



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Background:

No country seems to take the Eurovision Song Contest more seriously than tiny Malta. Unable to keep up with the rest of Europe in other arenas, Malta considers Eurovision it's chance to shine.

And no one shines bigger for Malta than Chiara Siracusa, who has lead Malta to a very third place finish in 1998, and a second place finish in 2005.

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Voting Patterns:

Malta, the most isolated competitor, is also the least biased. Expect them to give big points to the song they think is best. Malta and Slovakia have an odd tradition of giving each other big points, which I can't quite figure out.

Malta has sort of an uphill battle coming in, though, as with no neighbors they really have no guaranteed points. How the new jury system treats them will be interesting to see.

William Hill Odds to Win:

20-1 (Fourth)

The logic seems to be that since Chiara came in third the first time, and second the second time, she'll come in first the third time. Make of that what you will.

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.sonyericssonwtatour.com/3/global/photos/150x200/150017.jpg

As if I could keep her away! Zuzana Ondraskova has so many things in common with Malta--they're both small, they're both obscure, they're both surrounded by water, and they both love Eurovision.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"That's a big woman for such a little country. How does she fit?"

Togtdyalttai
04-24-2009, 12:41 PM
You just HAD to put Zuzana in there.

oohsalmon
04-24-2009, 12:42 PM
You just HAD to put Zuzana in there.

Of course!

Some would say I showed remarkable restraint by not making her Czech ambassador :).

manolo
04-24-2009, 01:02 PM
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Croatia

[LEFT]2009 Eurovision Song:



Background:
Croatia has brought some great stuff to Eurovision in the past. Sadly, this year's entry is not up to their usual standards. It's pretty dull, and there is NO reason for it to be a duet. She does almost nothing in the song. Boo Croatia.

It's a shame, because Croatia had been on a roll lately. Last year they combined an Italian-style ballad with a 75-year old rapper:

And two years ago they put out this AMAZING turbofolk number:


A Croatian act has won Eurovision, though under the Yugoslavian flag back in 1989. This vintage Eurovision entry is NOT to be missed.



I have only made it thus far in the list, and the Croatians are definitely the best, but only for what they sent in the past years, because this year's song is terrible... I even downloaded Severina's 2007 song, and found on youtube a clip of Goran Bregovic performing "Gas Gas" on Eurovision 2008, though I guess that was just a side show and not their official song? Awesome stuff, anyways, and of course I downloaded it too.

Tscott415
04-24-2009, 02:01 PM
Lithuania's 06 "We Are The Winners" is just epic. It embodies what I think of Eurovision. I just watched it again and loved it even more.

manolo
04-24-2009, 04:01 PM
Lithuania's 06 "We Are The Winners" is just epic. It embodies what I think of Eurovision. I just watched it again and loved it even more.

Amazing song, really funny! The fat bespactacled guy break-dancing while the other one plays the violin is just a great scene!
I'm curious what you mean when you say when you say it embodies what you think of Eurovision, because I loved it, but I still think that Eurovision is 95% crap.

Tscott415
04-24-2009, 05:57 PM
Amazing song, really funny! The fat bespactacled guy break-dancing while the other one plays the violin is just a great scene!
I'm curious what you mean when you say when you say it embodies what you think of Eurovision, because I loved it, but I still think that Eurovision is 95% crap.
Totally enjoyable crap! :cheesy:

oohsalmon
04-25-2009, 02:01 PM
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Moldova


2009 Eurovision Song:



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Background:

Moldova, nestled in between Romania and Ukraine, is a small country with big Eurovision ambitions.

This year they send "Hora din Moldova," which means "Dance of Moldova" in Romanian. Unfortunately, it also means "Whore of Moldova" in both Swedish and Norwegian. It will be interesting to see how the Scandinavians respond to this Moldovan floozy.

Moldova's best Eurovision result was in their debut in 2005, with the fun ska-ish "Boonika Bate Doba"

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Voting Patterns:

Moldova is pretty much Romania Jr., and will give them big points. Neighbor Ukraine will get big points, too. The Romania-Moldova-Ukraine region has a big immigrant presence in Iberia (Portugal-Spain-Andorra), so don't be surprised to see some cross-continent giving in an eastbound direction

William Hill Odds to Win:

150-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.itftennis.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/IO_1829_gallery.JPG

Since Moldova is pretty much just a weird version of Romania, Moldova's tennis ambassador is Romania's weird version of a tennis player, Monica Niculescu.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Whore of Moldova? As the self-appointed Whore of Belgium, I like it!"

oohsalmon
04-25-2009, 07:45 PM
Before I get to Montenegro, I should probably explain how Eurovision scoring works.

Each country awards points to the ten countries whose entries they deem most worthy, ideally based on the quality of the song but historically influenced by proximity and other political patterns. Countries CANNOT vote for themselves.

Each country awards their points to their ten favorites in the following denominations:
10th - 1 point
9th - 2 points
8th - 3 points
7th - 4 points
6th -5 points
5th - 6 points
4th - 7 points
3rd - 8 points
2nd - 10 points
1st - 12 points

This year the scoring should be less biased, as half of each country's point allotment will be determined by the normal televote, while half will be determined by a jury of music experts. 2009 is the first year this system will be used, so it's not really known how much this system will solve the biased point giving.

oohsalmon
04-27-2009, 01:09 PM
http://3dflags.com/art/comps/mne0001/3dflags_mne0001-0003a.gif?1190296094


Montenegro


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

Montenegro aims for their best Eurovision result yet with "Just Get Out of My Life," an unabashedly trashy number with lyrics like "get out of my sheets."

The song was composed by Ralph Siegel, who has written a record NINETEEN Eurovision songs. This is his first time writing for a country that doesn't speak German, for what that's worth.

This is only Montenegro's third year in the competition, and there are no notable past entries to speak of.

Voting Patterns:

Montenegro gives big points to their neighbors, Serbia and Bosnia & Herzegovina. Montenegro has never made a final, so who they get points from is a little cloudier.

William Hill Odds to Win:

40-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://cosmopolitan-scg.com/thumbnail.php?file=IMG_02731_big.jpg&size=article_medium

Ilija Bozoljac's ego is far too large to fit into a country the size of Serbia, so in its overflowing bounty, Ilija and his ego will represent Montenegro. Ilija is perfect for Eurovision--flamboyment, prone to partial nudity, and attracted to shiny objects.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"'Get out of my bed?' Where have I heard that before..."

Scotty
04-27-2009, 01:19 PM
http://3dflags.com/art/comps/mne0001/3dflags_mne0001-0003a.gif?1190296094


Montenegro


2009 Eurovision Song:

TqatzTLr2wY


Background:

Montenegro aims for their best Eurovision result yet with "Just Get Out of My Life," an unabashedly trashy number with lyrics like "get out of my sheets."

The song was composed by Ralph Siegel, who has written a record NINETEEN Eurovision songs. This is his first time writing for a country that doesn't speak German, for what that's worth.

This is only Montenegro's third year in the competition, and there are no notable past entries to speak of.

Voting Patterns:

Montenegro gives big points to their neighbors, Serbia and Bosnia & Herzegovina. Montenegro has never made a final, so who they get points from is a little cloudier.

William Hill Odds to Win:

40-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://cosmopolitan-scg.com/thumbnail.php?file=IMG_02731_big.jpg&size=article_medium

Ilija Bozoljac's ego is far too large to fit into a country the size of Serbia, so in its overflowing bounty, Ilija and his ego will represent Montenegro. Ilija is perfect for Eurovision--flamboyment, prone to partial nudity, and attracted to shiny objects.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"'Get out of my bed?' Where have I heard that before..."

omg, this song totally WORKS, BITCH.

IT'S GOING TO THE WHITE PARTY.

I like the way it uses the third of the three acceptable moods of dance music, which are: happy, horny, and bitter but triumphant. One demerit for rhyming "get out of my dreams" with "get out of my sheets.

I predict it's success will be inversely proportional to how much clothing her male back-up dancers wear during the live performance.

mmmm8
04-27-2009, 01:42 PM
Zdob si Zdub is #1 of bands I need to see in concert. They're just awesome.

oohsalmon
04-27-2009, 02:03 PM
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The Netherlands



2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

The Netherlands hasn't had a ton of success in recent Eurovisions, missing the final the past four years in a row. They look to reverse the trend with "Shine," which for my money is the gayest song in this year's Eurovision. And that's quite an achievement.

Voting Patterns:

As a western European country, the odds are stacked against the Dutch. If they're getting points from anyone, it will be from Belgium, Germany, and perhaps the UK. They're most likely to give points to Turkey or Armenia, because of the diasporas there.

William Hill Odds to Win:

200-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/5/photos/headshots/main/R513_AT.jpg

Dutch tennis isn't doing much on the main circuits these days, so I turn to the Netherlands Antilles for an ambassador. Jean-Julien Rojer is a longtime favorite scrub of mine, and I trust he will represent the orange with honor.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Shine is NOT something to be made light of. Lack of proper powdering can be a real tragedy."

Scotty
04-27-2009, 06:06 PM
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The Netherlands



2009 Eurovision Song:

te1w81E8L5A


Background:

The Netherlands hasn't had a ton of success in recent Eurovisions, missing the final the past four years in a row. They look to reverse the trend with "Shine," which for my money is the gayest song in this year's Eurovision. And that's quite an achievement.

Voting Patterns:

As a western European country, the odds are stacked against the Dutch. If they're getting points from anyone, it will be from Belgium, Germany, and perhaps the UK. They're most likely to give points to Turkey or Armenia, because of the diasporas there.

William Hill Odds to Win:

200-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/5/photos/headshots/main/R513_AT.jpg

Dutch tennis isn't doing much on the main circuits these days, so I turn to the Netherlands Antilles for an ambassador. Jean-Julien Rojer is a longtime favorite scrub of mine, and I trust he will represent the orange with honor.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Shine is NOT something to be made light of. Lack of proper powdering can be a real tragedy."

wow. They don't have to work. They're already at The White Party.

And I presume the band name is intended to be ironic. :cheesy:

oohsalmon
04-29-2009, 11:17 AM
http://www.3dflags.com/art/comps/deu0001/3dflags_deu0001-0003a.gif?1190171580

A Germany Eurovision Update!

Dita von Teese will be dancing on stage for the German performance. Sure to make their song even sluttier!

(Link in Deutsch) http://www.bild.de/BILD/unterhaltung/musik/2009/04/29/dita-von-teese/strippt-fuer-deutschland-beim-grand-prix.html

mmmm8
04-29-2009, 01:08 PM
http://www.3dflags.com/art/comps/deu0001/3dflags_deu0001-0003a.gif?1190171580

A Germany Eurovision Update!

Dita von Teese will be dancing on stage for the German performance. Sure to make their song even sluttier!

(Link in Deutsch) http://www.bild.de/BILD/unterhaltung/musik/2009/04/29/dita-von-teese/strippt-fuer-deutschland-beim-grand-prix.html


Taking a German pseudonym qualifies her? :cheesy:

Jay
04-29-2009, 04:21 PM
*twiddles thumbs while he waits for posts of song entries*

Jay
05-02-2009, 09:22 PM
*coughs*

oohsalmon
05-03-2009, 07:39 AM
*twiddles thumbs while he waits for posts of song entries*


*coughs*

Your first commentary on any of the songs here is to tell me to go faster? :asshole: :p

I probably won't be able to get any up before late Monday, as I gotta pack up and move. Everything will definitely be up with time to spare, don't worry...

Jay
05-04-2009, 02:33 AM
Your first commentary on any of the songs here is to tell me to go faster? :asshole: :p

I probably won't be able to get any up before late Monday, as I gotta pack up and move. Everything will definitely be up with time to spare, don't worry...
I heart you too. :p

I've enjoyed the extra stuff you posted about the countries, but I just haven't had the time to comment. Plus, I'm planning on changing my avatar and signature for Eurovision when you post more :p

But yeah, I understand...I guess :rolleyes:

oohsalmon
05-05-2009, 02:58 PM
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Norway


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


The Eurovision 2009 betting favorite.

Singer/songwriter and violinist Alexander Rybak and his dancing crew are the heavy favorites to win the 2009 Eurovision Song Contest. Rybak wrote the song himself, he leaps, he plays violin, and he sings mediocrely. What can't he do?

Opinions on the song are very mixed. Some love, some hate. It will be very interesting to see how the Eurovision voters and juries respond, and how Rybak's vocals hold up on the big night.

My favorite past Norwegian effort is 2006's "Alvedansen" (Elf Dance), which is kind of mystifyingly snowy and white.

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Voting Patterns:


Norway gives and receives from the other Scandinavian countries, as well as some fairly close ties to the surprisingly nearby United Kingdom. Alexander Rybak was born in Belarus, so they could get big points from them as well.


William Hill Odds to Win:


13-8 (First)

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.nrksport.no/contentfile/file/1.2797462!img2797416.jpg

For a Eurovision heavyweight, Norway is pretty light on tennis talent. The best I could find is Christian Ruud, who made the third round of the 1996 Olympics and barely made it into the top 40.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"A Norwegian without blond hair is not a Norwegian worthy of victory, no matter what the oddsmakers say."

oohsalmon
05-05-2009, 03:14 PM
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Poland


2009 Eurovision Song:

Vf8ERdO2PnA


Background:


Poland came in second in their Eurovision debut in 1994, and has only gotten back into the top ten once since. This fairly dull ballad ain't likely to bring the Poles back to the Eurovision promised land.

Voting Patterns:


Poland gets points from nearby Germany, and gives them to nearby Russia, traditionally.


William Hill Odds to Win:


200-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.vtennis.co.uk/Images/Tennis/female-tennis-players/female-tennis-players-marta-domachowska.JPG

The Radwanska's being a little too ratty for Eurovision, the honor of Polish ambassador goes to the much foxier Marta Domachowska.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"She's the only one who doesn't want to see her leave..."

oohsalmon
05-05-2009, 03:33 PM
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Portugal


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


Portugal was the most successful Western European country in Eurovision 2008, the only one to qualify through the semifinal, with the purple-haired lady below.

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Voting Patterns:


Portugal exchanges big points with Spain, and can also expect some love from Andorra and France.


William Hill Odds to Win:


66-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/81215081.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1934B869679A269F9CCD5F7D4540695FFDA 5A5397277B4DC33E

Sorry for showing you Neuza Silva up close. This little braced lady is the ambassador for Portugal, the country she defends with honor on the Fed Cup circuit.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"This song is pleasant and kind of lazy...just the opposite of my ex-wife..."

Jay
05-05-2009, 03:55 PM
aww. No Michelle Larcher De Brito?

Tscott415
05-05-2009, 03:55 PM
Norway is the betting fave?

They are AWFUL. I can't fathom any reason for liking it. It's just got a violin and bad singing. It's not even trashy!?!?!?

Togtdyalttai
05-05-2009, 04:42 PM
I guess I should be glad that the picture of Silva isn't loading for me. :p

oohsalmon
05-05-2009, 09:35 PM
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Romania


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


Romania wins the coveted title of trashiest Eurovision song of 2009 with "The Balkan Girls," by "singer" Elena Gheorghe. Championing local pride (ie courting neighborly voting) and celebrating partygirlism, the song has left many Romanians hanging their heads in shame.

Said one distraught Romanian commentator: "the song is like a horrible ad for Romania--come to our country to f*ck our women! They're cheap,
easy, and already drunk and spread eagle!"

I know what you're thinking. To save you the time, Delta, Lufthansa, and British Airways are among the major airlines that fly into Bucharest :D.

One of my favoritest Eurovision entries of all time is Romania's 2006 effort, the amazing "Tornero" by Mihai Traistariu. 2006 is probably the strongest year in Eurovision history--this song, as well as probably six others, easily would have won the contest in 2005.

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Voting Patterns:


Romania has had pretty decent success in Eurovisions past, a peripheral member of the Balkan and Soviet blocs with loyal support from Moldova and the Iberian peninsula. Expect them to give big points to Moldova (if they're there), and if not some other Balkan country. Greece, very possibly.


William Hill Odds to Win:


200-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://storage0.dms.mpinteractiv.ro/media/401/581/7966/2560183/1/cirstea-ap.jpg

In my dreams, Sorana Cirstea likes to party likes to party likes to party. For my money the hottest WTAer not named "Ondraskova," Sorana is sure to embody the Romanian entry's spirit of sex tourism with dignity and grace.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Pierre-Yves likes to party likes to party likes to party! I'm pretty sure I can sue Romania for copyright infringement, because this here is the story of my life. Loves it!"

Tscott415
05-05-2009, 09:52 PM
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In my dreams, Sorana Cirstea likes to party likes to party likes to party. For my money the hottest WTAer not named "Ondraskova," Sorana is sure to embody the Romanian entry's spirit of sex tourism with dignity and grace.


OMG, have truer words ever been spoken? I doubt it.

Not only is the song lovably trashy, but it's catchy. A sure Eurovision success!

rabbit
05-05-2009, 10:01 PM
gpwgbUPl254


Hmm, I've to say I deeply appreciate and approve of the message conveyed by this work of art...So, how much are the Bucharest airfares again?

Scotty
05-05-2009, 10:08 PM
Norway's entry wishes it was "Devil Went Down To Georgia", but doesn't have the balls. If it did, I would kick it in them, so it felt as bad as I did after listening to that dreck.

Poland's is nice, but instantly forgettable. Romania's is trashy fun.

Jay
05-05-2009, 10:56 PM
I like Romania's song :p

They're hot, but they're wearing too much makeup

I wouldn't mind going to Romania :cheesy: .........




....purely because I'm part Romanian, of course ;) ;)

Jay
05-07-2009, 12:51 AM
As if that wasn't ridiculous enough, watch her flip out after she didn't qualify for the final!

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:hyst:

Tscott415
05-07-2009, 06:52 PM
OMG, Balkan Girls is stuck in my head. Any Eurovision song that can do that should do well. They are definitely my favorites so far. What are everyone else's faves?

Jay
05-07-2009, 06:59 PM
OMG, Balkan Girls is stuck in my head. Any Eurovision song that can do that should do well. They are definitely my favorites so far. What are everyone else's faves?
Exactly. I can't get the song out of my head. I've been singing it all the time since I first heard it.


Romania's obviously my fave right now, but I also like Andorra's, Cyprus' and Amernia's entries. Though, Cyprus' vocals kind of suck.

Moldova's okay too. From what I've been reading online, a lot of people like Norway, Greece, Portugal and two others that haven't been posted here yet.. I don't care for those three.

oohsalmon
05-07-2009, 08:38 PM
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Russia


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

Many Russians are peeved that their representative during their first time hosting Eurovision is Ukrainian, and singing in Ukrainian. The Russian selection show was almost certainly rigged. Oh well.


The host and defending champion, Russia earned the right to host the 2009 Eurovision Song Contest by winning the 2008 contest, with the heartwarming yet icy "Believe," from manwhore extraordinaire Dima Bilan.

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For my money, Dima was much better in his previous Eurovision effort in 2006, when he finished in second

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If you are one of the many TATeurs thinking "this is nice, but I really wish I could see some of his genitals," just Google image "Dima Bilan" and all your dreams will come true!

By far the most Salmon friendly Russian Eurovision act is the super controversial, super talented t.A.T.u., the faux lesbians of my adolescence. And they're performing during the semifinal this year! (Link (http://78.109.162.140/news/read/13924))

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Voting Patterns:

The main impetus for the restructuring of the Eurovision voting is the absurd bloc voting toward Russia in recent years. Here's a map of how many points countries gave to Russia last year. Red = 12 points, orange = 10 points to Russia, yellow = 8 points to Russia, blue = 7 or fewer.

Notice any patterns?

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/324/russiamap.png

Expect most of these red countries to remain loyal to Russia even with the new system.

Russia has so many neighbors that it manages to stay fairly neutral, though still voting for it's strongest neighbor.

William Hill Odds to Win:


33-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.aegonchampionships.com/1/news/assets/news/07tursunov_news2.jpg

An aspiring musician and attention whore, Dmitry Tursunov is about as Eurovisiony as you can get.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Bring back the open-shirted guy on ice! Reminds me of Sharapova..."

oohsalmon
05-07-2009, 08:54 PM
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Serbia


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


Serbia sends a lighthearted joking entry this year, a fun little number called "Cipela" ("Shoe"). This a sharp diversion from the nationalistic, ethnically charged ballads the Serbians have sent in years past, including their 2007 winner "Molitva."

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Voting Patterns:

Serbia gets crazy loyal support from their neighbors and other countries with large Serbian diasporas, including Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, Slovenia, Switzerland, Hungary, and FYR Macedonia. Serbia gives points largely to Bosnia, but it could give big points to Montenegro if they make the final.


William Hill Odds to Win:


66-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.tennis.com/uploadedImages/Backcourt/General/2008_05_25_djokovic_article.jpg

As much as he is not my favorite Serb, Novak Djokovic certainly deserves the title of Serbian Tennis Eurovision ambassador. Seen above kicking off the voting in a semifinal in last year's Eurovision, Novak's showmanship and loudness make for a great Eurovision soul.

Watch him take lead as the three big tennis Serbs sing the Serbian winning song from 2007! If you have any doubts about how much tennis and Eurovision both mean to countries like Serbia, this video should show you a lot.

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His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"I feel for his hairstylist. Even your fabulous P-Y wakes up looking like that most mornings. You'd never believe how much time it takes to walk out of the maison looking this fabulous every day..."

oohsalmon
05-07-2009, 09:16 PM
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Slovakia


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


Slovakia comes back to Eurovision after a long absence with a dull duet ballad in a language almost no one outside their country speaks. Sigh, didn't we do this already with Croatia?


Voting Patterns:


Slovakia hasn't been in Eurovision in almost a decade, so most of how they'll vote is unknown. But votes to and from the Czechs, Ukrainians, and Hungarians could be expected.



William Hill Odds to Win:


200-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Daniela+Hantuchova+Martina+Klein+Presents+hLb1Skri ooTl.jpg

Somewhat unassuming and prone to long absences, Daniela Hantuchova sums up Slovakia's presence in Eurovision quite well. And they're as starved for success as she is starved for food!

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"They came back for this? Yawn."

Jay
05-07-2009, 09:49 PM
Those are all kind of boring. Serbia's is fun, but not good. It's unfair how much Russia's neighbors vote for it, even if the song is absolute crap (and not the fun, Eurovision-type of crap). :undecided:

t.A.T.u made a horrible song choice. They would have won if they chose "All the things she said" or whatever that song is called.

and please don't tell me you're going to choose Verdasco for Spain. I know of a few other Spaniards who would work just as well for Spain :cheesy:

oohsalmon
05-07-2009, 09:53 PM
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Slovenia



2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

Slovenia originally intended to have this entry be entirely instrumental, but that was deemed in violation of Eurovision rules. So they added some vocals. It's not very typical Eurovision fare, and how Europe responds to it will be interesting.


Slovenia has had some pretty mediocre results of late, though I did enjoy Rebeka Dremelj's Vrag Naj Vzame from last year. Had it been performed in English as originally planned, it probably would have made the final. If nothing else, the song introduced me to Dremelj, who is pretty awesome.

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Voting Patterns:

Slovenia is loyal to the other Yugoslav countries, but does not receive the same loyalty in return. Not having their neighbors Italy and Austria in the competition certainly hurts them.


William Hill Odds to Win:


200-1

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/5/photos/headshots/main/G527_AS.jpg

One of nelslus' many dreamboats is Slovenia's Luka Gregorc. I know little about him besides this, but he gets the nod as Katerina Srebotnik is about as un-Eurovisionlicious as you can get.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"To spice up our marriage, Justine tried to do one of those silhouette dancing things. That silhouette made her look even more boyish, which was kinda working. Then she pulled down the screen, and the fun was over :(."

Jay
05-07-2009, 10:14 PM
He IS cute.

I kind of like Slovenia's entry. Though, it's not Eurovision-y enough (Eccentric: Lordi, or Trashy: Elena) for me.

mysterX
05-07-2009, 10:18 PM
After all the endorsements, I had to watch the Romanian video. That's the only one I've bothered to look at, although I do enjoy reading the commentary.

suliso
05-07-2009, 11:46 PM
So Italy and Austria are the only two notable countries not participating? I wonder why..

Jay
05-08-2009, 12:40 AM
I found Cyprus' music video.

It's a lot better (obviously) than the live performance. It's a pretty song.
Though, I fear that the vocals will suck (again) during the Semis.

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mmmm8
05-08-2009, 03:05 AM
So Italy and Austria are the only two notable countries not participating? I wonder why..

I think they got really pissed by not doing well a couple years ago and decided the competition was a joke.

mmmm8
05-08-2009, 03:07 AM
2009 Eurovision Song:

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Love it!

Love the Russian entry, too. Ukrainian or not, we're not winning anyway this year, and it's refreshing to have someone who can sing

oohsalmon
05-08-2009, 12:15 PM
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Spain
(No idea where the coat of arms is...)




2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


Spain sends a fun, uptempo Spanglish number by former reality show contestant Soraya, surprising in that it doesn't totally suck.

Spain has only won the Eurovision Song Contest once, a win later proven to be rigged by Franco.

Spain has been the most successful of the big four of late, a distinction comparable to being the most tolerable character on The Hills--not much to brag about.

Spain hasn't taken Eurovision seriously in some time, most directly evidenced by last year's incredible work of Eurovision art.

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Voting Patterns:

Spain is home to a lot of Romanian, Moldovan, and Ukrainian immigrants, so expect big points to them as well as neighbors Portugal and Andorra.

William Hill Odds to Win:


40-1 (I think they should be a little better than this)


Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.womenssportsnet.com/Portals/57ad7180-c5e7-49f5-b282-c6475cdb7ee7/images/AP_mens_tennis/finals/lopez_gold.jpg

Made entirely of silicone and plastic, nobody screams "el Festival de la Canción de Eurovisión" quite as loudly as Feliciano Lopez. Perhaps even too whorish for Eurovision, Marat Safin's new squeeze is proud to represent Spain on the grandest plexiglass court of them all.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"She looks about as Spanish as ABBA. OMG ABBA is up next! I'm so excited! Yours truly HFPY has a Mamma Mia tattoo next to his no-no spot, I'm sure you've all heard."

Togtdyalttai
05-08-2009, 01:19 PM
I'm proud to say I've finally caught up with watching all of these. I agree with what others have been saying for the most part: Norway shouldn't be the favorite, Romania's great, etc. I also like Spain's.

Jay
05-08-2009, 05:32 PM
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Spain
(No idea where the coat of arms is...)







Spain has only won the Eurovision Song Contest once, a win later proven to be rigged by Franco.




Yay! Spain is finally posted!
oo. Feli. nice.

Spain has actually won it twice, in 68 and 69 (I'm assuming it was rigged in 69)

:smitten: I love Soraya. I've had her as an avatar on here before. She's one of my favourite Spanish singers :)

She's had a ton of better songs than this, but this is one of my favourite entries this year.

I hope they win! :cheesy:

Here's a nice interview of her. I think she was interviewed in Sweden, but I'm not sure.
She says she's promising a surprise for Eurovision :cheesy:
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oohsalmon
05-08-2009, 05:56 PM
Yay! Spain is finally posted!
oo. Feli. nice.

Spain has actually won it twice, in 68 and 69 (I'm assuming it was rigged in 69)

:smitten: I love Soraya. I've had her as an avatar on here before. She's one of my favourite Spanish singers :)

She's had a ton of better songs than this, but this is one of my favourite entries this year.

I hope they win! :cheesy:

Here's a nice interview of her. I think she was interviewed in Sweden, but I'm not sure.
She says she's promising a surprise for Eurovision :cheesy:
J1Dp7GvZhpI

It was rigged in 68. 1969 was a four-way tie that Eurovision statisticians now mostly consider a Dutch win :).

oohsalmon
05-08-2009, 10:20 PM
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Sweden



2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


One of the most storied pop producing countries in Europe, Sweden sends Malena Ernmann, winner of the selection show Melodifestivalen, with her popera number "La Voix," sung in English and French.

Sweden produced the most famous winning act and winning song in Eurovision history, with a little group of four Swedes by the names of Agnetha, Benny, Bjorn, and Anni-Frid.


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ABBA, not surprisingly, was voted the most successful Eurovision act of all time at the 50th anniversary Eurovision special a few years ago.


Voting Patterns:

Sweden is another rank and file member of the Scandinavian bloc. Sweden, though sharing no land borders with them, historically is friendliest with Denmark. Norway is a very close second. There is a Bosnian diaspora there as well that could make its presence known.


William Hill Odds to Win:


20-1 (Fifth)

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/johansson_thomas0127.jpg

The most ABBAish player on either tour is probably Thomas Johansson. Both were around for a long time, both only won one big international competition, and both enjoyed big success in Australia.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"I much would have preferred some Anni-Frid-ish, 'I Know There's Something Going On' type song from the Swedes. I used to sing that to Justine and Carlos when I'd find them in bed together working on her forehand..."

Togtdyalttai
05-08-2009, 10:27 PM
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Sweden



2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


One of the most storied pop producing countries in Europe, Sweden sends Malena Ernmann, winner of the selection show Melodifestivalen, with her popera number "La Voix," sung in English and French.

Sweden produced the most famous winning act and winning song in Eurovision history, with a little group of four Swedes by the names of Agnetha, Benny, Bjorn, and Anni-Frid.


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ABBA, not surprisingly, was voted the most successful Eurovision act of all time at the 50th anniversary Eurovision special a few years ago.


Voting Patterns:

Spain is home to a lot of Romanian, Moldovan, and Ukrainian immigrants, so expect big points to them as well as neighbors Portugal and Andorra.


William Hill Odds to Win:


20-1 (Fifth)

Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/johansson_thomas0127.jpg

The most ABBAish player on either tour is probably Thomas Johansson. Both were around for a long time, both only won one big international competition, and both enjoyed big success in Australia.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"I much would have preferred some Anni-Frid-ish, 'I Know There's Something Going On' type song from the Swedes. I used to sing that to Justine and Carlos when I'd find them in bed together working on her forehand..."

Heh?

oohsalmon
05-08-2009, 11:12 PM
Heh?

Fixed :o

manolo
05-09-2009, 02:30 PM
Spain hasn't taken Eurovision seriously in some time, most directly evidenced by last year's incredible work of Eurovision art.

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I have to say that this is actually a really funny song, the lyrics are really funny too! I couldn't stop laughing during all the time it was playing.

manolo
05-09-2009, 02:34 PM
I think Serbia is my favorite so far... I haven't seen them all, though.

Edit: Actually, I just saw Sweden and I like it a lot too.
This Eurovision thing is actually not as bad as I used to think when Iwas there. Maybe I miss Europe :)

oohsalmon
05-10-2009, 06:43 PM
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Switzerland


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


With a rare Swiss entry in English, Switzerland brings probably the best uptempo rock number of the 2009 Eurovision Song Contest. Not nearly as generic as Denmark, Switzerland could make it through a semi for only the second time ever.

Switzerland won the Eurovision Song Contest the very first year it was held, in 1956. Their other great success was in 1988...

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That's right folks. As her big breakout event, Eurovision is pretty much the reason Celine Dion ever got anywhere. Watch her winning song here, as the Canadian Celine sings for Switzerland with her perm and ensemble that is half-boardroom and half-ballerina.

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Voting Patterns:

Switzerland, though often known for its neutrality, is not immune from Eurovision televoting biases. Big points to France and some Yugoslav countries with diasporas in the Alps, most likely Bosnia & Herzegovina and Serbia, are to be expected.


William Hill Odds to Win:


66-1

Tennis Ambassador:

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"When I heard Richard Gasquet was going to be at the Eurovision ambassadors party, how could I not sign on?" said Swiss Eurovision Tennis Ambassador Martina Hingis.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Justine asked Celine Dion to perform at our wedding. She declined. By far my fondest memory of that event."

oohsalmon
05-10-2009, 08:17 PM
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Turkey


2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

Turkey, a perennial contender for a lot of geopolitical reasons, is one of the front runners this year. "Dum Tek Tek" was the first 2009 Eurovision song released, and has remained near the front of the pack ever since.

Turkey usually sends scantily clad dancers, and this year is no exception. But last year they sent 2008's best Eurovision rock entry.

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Voting Patterns:

Turkish people seem to consider Azerbaijanis their brothers from what I read online, so expect the two to exchange big points with one another. The Turks have a huge diaspora throughout Western Europe, most noticeably in Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, the UK, and France, which could affect voting in all of those countries. Hadise has Belgian roots, so their support should be strong.


William Hill Odds to Win:


7-1 (Second)


Tennis Ambassador:

http://www.maksimum.com/spor/images/haber/422_B_IpekSenoglu002.jpg
Not nearly as seductive as her country's singer, Ipek Senoglu will nonetheless do her best to represent Turkey admirably.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"That's one of the odder looking chastity belts I've seen"

oohsalmon
05-10-2009, 09:10 PM
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Ukraine

2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:

Saving the best Eurovision country for (almost) last! And watch their amazing choreography from the Ukrainian selection show! No one else swings their singer upside down! Bloodrush! And drums covered in newspaper? No one else does that!

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And as this interview shows, the singer, Svetlana Loboda, is absolutely nuts. Love it.

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Ukraine may not be the strongest this year, but in recent Eurovision history, no country has more frequently blown me out of the water. After they hosted Eurovision in 2005, the Ukrainians really got the hang of how the game is played. Like in 2006, with Tina Karol and some dancing Cossacks! This clip cuts off the amazing post-song choreography, but know that it was amazing!

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In 2007, Ukraine brought what is currently my favorite Eurovision entry of all-time, the amazing Verka Serduchka with the amazing "Danzing Lasha Tumbai"

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Ukraine made it back to back runner-up finishes with the ferocious "Shady Lady" by Ani Lorak. The choreography will blow you away. It made nodding cool again!

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Voting Patterns:

Ukraine gives a pretty reliable 12 points to Russia, and is even more likely to in 2009 given that the Russian act this year is Ukrainian. Ukraine receives points from Russia, Spain, Portugal, Andorra, Poland, Slovakia, Czech Republic, and Moldova with good regularity.


William Hill Odds to Win:


25-1


Tennis Ambassador:

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When they're not busy fighting over the boyfriend they share, leading police on OJ like chases through the streets of Southern California, or braiding each other's hair, Alona and Kateryna Bondarenko will be representing the Ukraine as Eurovision ambassadors! Duets are really in these days, as are tramp stamps!

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"I was once covered in liquid chocolate like that. At least Justine told me it was chocolate..."

oohsalmon
05-10-2009, 09:47 PM
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United Kingdom



2009 Eurovision Song:

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Background:


Fresh off a last place finish in 2008, the British were determined to reestablish themselves as contenders in the competition they think so little of. The country that brought the world The Beatles and The Rolling Stones understandably feels it has little to prove in the world of music.

So they enlisted the help of Andrew Lloyd Webber, and together with famed lyricist Diane Warren they came up with "It's My Time," which sounds like every American Idol post-win song you've ever heard. Through the reality show Your Country Needs You, Britain chose unknown Jade Ewen to represent them in Moscow.

The Brits weren't always without success in Eurovision, though. They have won the contest five times, and have come in second an incredible fifteen times.

The first winner was

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Probably the most famous British representative didn't even win. From 1974, it's the one and only O N-J!

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Fun costume changes with winner Bucks Fizz!

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Not that the Brits have taken the contest too seriously in recent years, as evidenced by the fun (but unsuccessful) 2007 entry.

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Voting Patterns:

The Brits are a fairly neutral bunch when it comes to voting, so expect them to vote for something good. There are decently big Greek, Turkish, and Latvian populations that could skew things, though probably not majorly. As far as receiving votes, only the Irish and Maltese have shown much willingness to give points to the UK in recent years, an attitude due in large part to the unpopularity in Europe of the British involvement with the Iraq War.


William Hill Odds to Win:


25-1


Tennis Ambassador:

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Never really happy with the whole process, just like his country, Andy Murray makes for a naturally sardonic Eurovision Brit.

His Fabulousness, Pierre-Yves says:

"Andrew Lloyd Webber! I always wanted to be in Cats. :( "

rabbit
05-10-2009, 09:56 PM
Wow, re: Celine Dion, you don't have to be from the country to represent it? So, countries can basically buy singers (a la Kazakhstan in tennis)?

Jay
05-10-2009, 10:02 PM
Wow, re: Celine Dion, you don't have to be from the country to represent it? So, countries can basically buy singers (a la Kazakhstan in tennis)?
Last year's contestant for Greece wasn't from the country either. She was from the U.S or something like that.
:p

oohsalmon
05-10-2009, 10:08 PM
So that's all the the entries! All 42 of them. Stay tuned (to another thread) for how the TAT Eurovision Contest is going to work!

oohsalmon
05-10-2009, 10:14 PM
Wow, re: Celine Dion, you don't have to be from the country to represent it? So, countries can basically buy singers (a la Kazakhstan in tennis)?

That's right. Neither singers nor songwriters have to be from the country they represent. Celine Dion and Olivia Newton-John (Australia) are the most famous examples, as well as an Aruban winning for Estonia. Lots Greeks have sung for Cyprus, a ton of Brits danced for Turkey, and a boatload of Italians have represented Latvia.

mmmm8
05-11-2009, 12:53 AM
OMG! You didn't say anything bad about Andy Murray! ('Sardonic' is a compliment in my book)

suliso
05-11-2009, 02:43 AM
Wow, re: Celine Dion, you don't have to be from the country to represent it? So, countries can basically buy singers (a la Kazakhstan in tennis)?

No, but you do have to convince folks from the relevant country to vote for you. At least that's how it is here...

mmmm8
05-11-2009, 09:44 AM
So, they showed the opening ceremony on Russian TV last night. I didn't watch (too busy watching Russia win in hockey!), but my mom was completely appalled by the acts ("They had soldiers with fans and feather boas instead of epaulets!") and by the Natalia Vodianova (who is from my hometown!) mangling English, which is fascinating because she's lived in US and England for so long. The male host is the third most annoying person on Russian television, so it all promises to be wonderfully awful.

They had winners from previous winners perform, including the woman who won the inaugural 1956 competition

oohsalmon
05-11-2009, 11:18 AM
So, they showed the opening ceremony on Russian TV last night. I didn't watch (too busy watching Russia win in hockey!), but my mom was completely appalled by the acts ("They had soldiers with fans and feather boas instead of epaulets!") and by the Natalia Vodianova (who is from my hometown!) mangling English, which is fascinating because she's lived in US and England for so long. The male host is the third most annoying person on Russian television, so it all promises to be wonderfully awful.

They had winners from previous winners perform, including the woman who won the inaugural 1956 competition

Ok I agree that the hosts were awful, but it wasn't all bad! t.A.T.u was there!!!

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mmmm8
05-11-2009, 11:22 AM
Ok I agree that the hosts were awful, but it wasn't all bad! t.A.T.u was there!!!

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Great, and here I was hoping they were dead from drinking problems and bearing children from unidentified fathers. BTW, the female host in the above clip is singer Alsu and not Natalia Vodianova

oohsalmon
05-11-2009, 11:36 AM
I like how clear it is that none of the Russians are too crazy about Dima Bilan either. If you can't make it all the way through, skip ahead to the "clap your hands about Moscow!" part around 4:05

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mmmm8
05-11-2009, 11:39 AM
OK, so my mom must have been complaining about Alsu's English. Vodianova must be too expensive to do this one.

Alsu actually has a decent English-language duet with Enrique Iglesias

Togtdyalttai
05-11-2009, 01:46 PM
Aww, I was really hoping there would be a representative from the Vatican. Who doesn't want to hear the pope sing? :(

Jay
05-11-2009, 04:15 PM
I just listened to songs from both semifinals (the studio recorded versions, of course.). It looks like the first semifinal is the stronger of the two.

oohsalmon
05-11-2009, 04:34 PM
I just listened to songs from both semifinals (the studio recorded versions, of course). It looks like the first semifinal is the stronger of the two.

Absolutely. There will definitely be some weaker stuff getting through the second semifinal. Gives me hope as a big fan of the pretty marginal Hungary :).

oohsalmon
05-11-2009, 04:35 PM
The guidelines for the TAT Eurovision Contest are up!!!

http://www.talkabouttennis.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13939

I hope all of you play!

oohsalmon
05-11-2009, 04:47 PM
Here are the lineups for the semifinals, the first of which is in less than 24 hours!!!!

First Semifinal - Tuesday
1. Montenegro
2. Czech Republic
3. Belgium
4. Belarus
5. Sweden
6. Armenia
7. Andorra
8. Switzerland
9. Turkey
10. Israel
11. Bulgaria
12. Iceland
13. F.Y.R. Macedonia
14. Romania
15. Finland
16. Portugal
17. Malta
18. Bosnia & Herzegovina

Second Semifinal - Thursday
1. Croatia
2. Ireland
3. Latvia
4. Serbia
5. Poland
6. Norway
7. Cyprus
8. Slovakia
9. Denmark
10. Slovenia
11. Hungary
12. Azerbaijan
13. Greece
14. Lithuania
15. Moldova
16. Albania
17. Ukraine
18. Estonia
19. The Netherlands

Ten will qualify from each--the nine with the highest televote point totals, and one selection from a jury in Moscow.

Togtdyalttai
05-11-2009, 05:17 PM
Hey wait, wouldn't that mean that there are 30 teams in the final total? (with UK, France, Spain, Germany, and Russia)

oohsalmon
05-11-2009, 05:28 PM
Hey wait, wouldn't that mean that there are 30 teams in the final total? (with UK, France, Spain, Germany, and Russia)

25. 5+10+10.

Togtdyalttai
05-11-2009, 05:43 PM
Ok wow. :o

I thought you were saying that 10 from each would advance plus another four selected from both and then one selected by the judge. Stupid me. xD

oohsalmon
05-11-2009, 09:21 PM
My predictions for who makes it through the first, much tougher semi:

1. Montenegro
5. Sweden
6. Armenia
8. Switzerland
9. Turkey
12. Iceland
14. Romania
15. Finland
17. Malta
18. Bosnia & Herzegovina

Anyone else have guesses?

oohsalmon
05-12-2009, 01:40 PM
After watching the performances, I'm thinking Macedonia may get in over the Swiss. The rest of my predictions I think I'll hold on to...

Portugal may surprise, Finland may disappoint.

The most impressive surprise for me was Iceland.

Jay
05-12-2009, 01:51 PM
I missed it.

You don't think Andorra can sneak through?

oohsalmon
05-12-2009, 02:04 PM
The qualifiers:

Turkey
Israel
Finland
Sweden
Romania
Portugal
Armenia
Malta
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Iceland

Tscott415
05-12-2009, 09:07 PM
Romania needs to up the trashy if they want a shot at a top spot.

Iceland was fantastic. Definitely a surprise success from my original opinion on their song.

oohsalmon
05-12-2009, 09:39 PM
Here are the ten qualifying performances (and two bonus losing performances) from Tuesday's First Semifinal!

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Bonus Losers!

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Scotty
05-12-2009, 10:19 PM
From semifinal #2, I give you:

The Scotty-Approved List of Acceptable Finalists
(in order of appearance)
Ireland
Hungary
Slovenia
Azerbaijan
Greece
Moldova
Albania
Ukraine
Estonia
Netherlands

Togtdyalttai
05-12-2009, 10:27 PM
My Picks for Semi 2 (don't know how Slovenia got in there):

4. Serbia
6. Norway
9. Denmark
10. Slovenia
11. Hungary
12. Azerbaijan
13. Greece
15. Moldova
17. Ukraine
18. Estonia

oohsalmon
05-12-2009, 10:35 PM
I went a very respectable if not amazing 8/10 on my predictions for Semifinal #1. Who do I see coming out of the second one, you ask?

4. Serbia
6. Norway
10. Slovenia
11. Hungary
12. Azerbaijan
13. Greece
14. Lithuania
16. Albania
17. Ukraine
18. Estonia

I would like to see Ireland make it through, though! If you're in a semifinal #2 country (m8, suliso), vote Ireland for me!

manolo
05-12-2009, 10:36 PM
Thanks for posting this, it makes it much easier!

My thoughts so far:
Excellent: Sweden, my favorite by far!
Good: Iceland, Finland
Mediocre: Armenia, Bosnia, Romania, Turkey
Among the worst songs I've ever heard: Israel, Portugal, Malta

oohsalmon
05-12-2009, 11:56 PM
Thanks for posting this, it makes it much easier!

My thoughts so far:
Excellent: Sweden, my favorite by far!
Good: Iceland, Finland
Mediocre: Armenia, Bosnia, Romania, Turkey
Among the worst songs I've ever heard: Israel, Portugal, Malta

Such loyalty to the Scandinavians!

Basically for you it seems that the further south a country, the worse it is? ;)

suliso
05-13-2009, 01:48 AM
I listened to all 10 finalists from the first semi final. My ranking: Iceland, Romania, Sweden, Finland.......... Portugal.

We'll see what comes out of the second semi final, but I think the first three have a real shot to win it all.

suliso
05-13-2009, 01:49 AM
Such loyalty to the Scandinavians!

Basically for you it seems that the further south a country, the worse it is? ;)

History shows that they do know how to make music. ;)

Jay
05-13-2009, 03:06 AM
What's up with the love for the Swedish entry? I thought it was one of the worst.
It sucked :p

Jay
05-13-2009, 05:19 AM
I meant to say this when Salmon posted Spain's entry, but I think that Spain could get a lot of points from Belgium since Soraya is close friends with Kate Ryan (they always talk about each other in interviews)

anyhoo,
I think this is cute. :cheesy:
She even mentions Nadal! :)

This is my rough (*VERY ROUGH*) translation. Though, I'm not sure what she said in the end, so I'm not exactly sure if I got the last part (about the female conductor) right.
If I messed it up, please correct me :)

"They've told me that we won Eurovision once.
I watched Spain win the last Euro Cup (Eurocup? I'm not sure if that's what she says).
I enjoyed listening to Penelopé's speech at the Oscars.
Nadal was incredible in the Wimbledon final.
I saw a woman conduct the Philharmonic Orchestra of Vienna. (? not sure)
This could be Spain's year in Eurovision."

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mmmm8
05-13-2009, 07:54 AM
I just finished watching. I thought the finalist choices were relatively fair.

I also thought Bulgaria´s song was horrid, but the stilt dancers were amazing. Andrey Malakhov needs to be put down.


BTW - Elena Gheorghe is half Romanian, half Macedonian (so, we're at least approaching the Balkans), and her father is a priest

manolo
05-13-2009, 08:36 AM
Such loyalty to the Scandinavians!

Basically for you it seems that the further south a country, the worse it is? ;)

hahaha. It's fun, I didn't even think of that, but maybe you're right. The problem is, I come from a country that's way south...

oohsalmon
05-13-2009, 01:07 PM
Oikotimes.com , one of the premier Eurovision sites, does a poll where they ask Eurovision fans from the semifinal voting countries who they like to vote and predict the results.

Here's what they have for semi #2:

170 points for Greece
153 points for Norway
132 points for Azerbaijan
130 points for Estonia
129 points for Albania
112 points for Moldova
084 points for Ukraine
080 points for Lithuania
057 points for Croatia
050 points for Serbia
048 points for Cyprus
039 points for Denmark
032 points for Poland
028 points for Latvia
025 points for Hungary
023 points for Slovenia
019 points for Slovakia
018 points for Netherlands
003 points for Ireland

I think the big surprise there is Croatia, who is pretty terrible. They go first, so hopefully won't make it through. The total 3 points for Ireland is pretty uninspiring.

After seeing this, I think I'll strike Ireland and Slovenia out of my predictions and add Latvia and Moldova...

oohsalmon
05-13-2009, 01:13 PM
In the entire enormous country of Russia, no better hosts could be found? Really?

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suliso
05-13-2009, 03:02 PM
Random note: That Icelandic singer is even younger than she looks.

manolo
05-13-2009, 03:25 PM
Random note: That Icelandic singer is even younger than she looks.

Random note: That Icelandic singer is HOT!

suliso
05-13-2009, 03:27 PM
Random note: That Icelandic singer is HOT!

Just as random: Who would dispute that? Unless maybe one is dead set against blondes... ;)

oohsalmon
05-13-2009, 03:37 PM
Just as random: Who would dispute that? Unless maybe one is dead set against blondes... ;)

In debates I've read over hottest Eurovision competitor this year (yes, substantive, I know), the other big front runner is Elena from Romania. I'll take Iceland over her.

It would be great for Iceland to win this thing. Morale there is so low with their economic struggles, and it would be an easy destination for me to go to :D.

manolo
05-13-2009, 03:56 PM
In debates I've read over hottest Eurovision competitor this year (yes, substantive, I know), the other big front runner is Elena from Romania. I'll take Iceland over her.

It would be great for Iceland to win this thing. Morale there is so low with their economic struggles, and it would be an easy destination for me to go to :D.

As a loyal fan of the Scandinavian contestants this year, I take Iceland too. Plus the song is better than the Romanian entry. :)

I have a friend that after having toured all Eastern Europe came back as a big fan of Romanian girls. I've never been there, so can't confirm. But Slovakia was pretty awesome on that front, and he said Romania was better, so it's definitely on my list of places to visit.

Jay
05-13-2009, 05:45 PM
I'd rather take Elena (the Romanian one) over the Icelandic chick, but I think Turkey's and Spain's girls are the hottest in the contest.

Togtdyalttai
05-13-2009, 06:36 PM
I know one thing: Sweden's girl is the ugliest in the contest.

luvs10s
05-13-2009, 07:00 PM
When did it turn into a beauty contest? wink

You men are all the same! grin

mmmm8
05-13-2009, 07:55 PM
I know one thing: Sweden's girl is the ugliest in the contest.

Really? I don't think she's been a girl for a good 20 years, but other than that, I don't think there was much wrong with her.


BTW - I thought the Israeli part of the Israeli-Palestinian duet was beautiful. But not in the obvious way of the Turkish and Romanian girls.

The Icelandic girl seemed like she'd be forgettable if she didn't have a voice.

But that's just my unworthy female opinion.

Scotty
05-13-2009, 08:25 PM
when I hear most guys say stuff like "the girls from X are hotter", I've usually found that "are hotter" = "dress sluttier".

Now, manolo is a classy fellow, so perhaps his Romanian-travelling friend is, too. ;)

Anyhow, no reason the male performers can't be objectified, too.
Any takers?

Jay
05-13-2009, 08:31 PM
Sure.

I think Alexander Rybak is kinda cute.

oohsalmon
05-13-2009, 08:31 PM
I think the main thing that's going to be interesting to see is whether or not the superior songs of Ireland and Slovenia can overcome the political advantage countries like Latvia and Serbia hold.

mmmm8
05-13-2009, 08:33 PM
when I hear most guys say stuff like "the girls from X are hotter", I've usually found that "are hotter" = "dress sluttier".

Now, manolo is a classy fellow, so perhaps his Romanian-travelling friend is, too. ;)

Anyhow, no reason the male performers can't be objectified, too.
Any takers?

Turkey's back up dancer, no contest

oohsalmon
05-14-2009, 02:29 PM
Second Semifinal Qualifiers

Azerbaijan
Croatia :shocked:
Ukraine
Lithuania
Denmark :mad:
Moldova
Albania
Estonia
Norway
Greece

No Serbia :(

suliso
05-14-2009, 02:35 PM
Second Semifinal Qualifiers

Azerbaijan
Croatia :shock:
Ukraine
Lithuania
Denmark
Moldova
Estonia
Norway
Greece

No Serbia :(

You liked Serbia? Croatia was such a meh...

oohsalmon
05-14-2009, 02:44 PM
You liked Serbia? Croatia was such a meh...

Serbia had never previously finished outside the top five (as "Serbia), so for them to miss the final completely is a shocker.

On the one hand, its a good sign to see no real comedic entries get through to the final this year, but on the other, it's bad to show Serbia that to be successful they have to send the ethnically charged ballads they've been sending previously. Marko Kon was just much better than the Croatians, who I still can't believe got in...

suliso
05-14-2009, 03:02 PM
On the one hand, its a good sign to see no real comedic entries get through to the final this year, but on the other, it's bad to show Serbia that to be successful they have to send the ethnically charged ballads they've been sending previously. Marko Kon was just much better than the Croatians, who I still can't believe got in...

Me neither, but then I am not big on traditional Balkan music in principle.


I won't be home for the final, but if I was Iceland would be my pick.

manolo
05-14-2009, 03:33 PM
Serbia had never previously finished outside the top five (as "Serbia), so for them to miss the final completely is a shocker.

On the one hand, its a good sign to see no real comedic entries get through to the final this year, but on the other, it's bad to show Serbia that to be successful they have to send the ethnically charged ballads they've been sending previously. Marko Kon was just much better than the Croatians, who I still can't believe got in...

Completely agreed. Serbia was funny and not bad, especially compared to some of the stuff out there...
I have to admit that what started as mere curiosity has now morphed into a big interest in Eurovision. Looking forward to Saturday. :)

oohsalmon
05-14-2009, 03:41 PM
Completely agreed. Serbia was funny and not bad, especially compared to some of the stuff out there...
I have to admit that what started as mere curiosity has now morphed into a big interest in Eurovision. Looking forward to Saturday. :)

Yay! Hope you play the contest, too!

Videos of the ten qualifying performances plus two or three losers coming shortly..

oohsalmon
05-14-2009, 04:09 PM
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Bonus Losers:

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Jay
05-14-2009, 05:20 PM
I'm surprised Albania made it through. I thought their song sucked.

Too bad Cyprus didn't make it. I liked that song :(

Togtdyalttai
05-14-2009, 05:28 PM
Croatia, Albania, Lithuania, Denmark? Seriously, who put these countries in the final?

luvs10s
05-14-2009, 05:37 PM
Croatia, Albania, Lithuania, Denmark? Seriously, who put these countries in the final?

I kinda liked Lithuania and Denmark. blush

oohsalmon
05-14-2009, 05:37 PM
By popular demand...

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luvs10s
05-14-2009, 06:01 PM
:shock:

oohsalmon
05-14-2009, 06:16 PM
The final order for the final has been determined!

1. Lithuania (A really perfect starting number, good and with a Russian segment to get the locals into it)
2. Israel
3. France
4. Sweden
5. Croatia
6. Portugal
7. Iceland
8. Greece
9. Armenia
10. Russia
11. Azerbaijan
12. Bosnia & Herzegovina
13. Moldova
14. Malta
15. Estonia
16. Denmark
17. Germany
18. Turkey
19. Albania
20. Norway
21. Ukraine
22. Romania
23. United Kingdom
24. Finland
25. Spain

Going late is really important for success. Here's a graph I threw together showing performing order vs. place finish over the last decade:

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5641/euro.png

(The Y-Axis represents how many countries on average they finish ahead of...)

oohsalmon
05-14-2009, 09:43 PM
I think the main thing that's going to be interesting to see is whether or not the superior songs of Ireland and Slovenia can overcome the political advantage countries like Latvia and Serbia hold.

In my genius, all four of these countries failed to make it :cheesy:

Here is the announcing of the second semifinal qualifiers. It was really bizarre how most all of the early announcees were the marginal ones, and the heavy favorites were last. Made for a stressful-ish viewing. Poor Serbia...

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manolo
05-14-2009, 10:27 PM
So sad about Serbia, I really liked that one!

Anyways, so here are mly thoughts:

Best of this pack (but not overall): Ukraine
OK: Moldavia, Estonia, Denmark
Mediocre: Albania, Norway, Azerbaijan
Should have stayed home: Croatia, Greece, Lithuania

oohsalmon
05-14-2009, 10:33 PM
http://www.3dflags.com/art/comps/ltu0001/3dflags_ltu0001-0003a.gif?1190212254http://www.3dflags.com/art/comps/isr0001/3dflags_isr0001-0003a.gif?1190194166http://www.3dflags.com/art/comps/fra0001/3dflags_fra0001-0003a.gif?1190166738http://3dflags.com/art/comps/swe0001/3dflags_swe0001-0003a.gif?1190571690http://3dflags.com/art/comps/hrv0001/3dflags_hrv0001-0003a.gif?1190148168
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The Order of the 54th Eurovision Song Contest Final

Jay
05-14-2009, 11:05 PM
Vamos España! :banana:

oohsalmon
05-14-2009, 11:57 PM
So how did each region do in the semis, you ask?


Scandinavia (Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland) went 5/5
Former Soviet Countries (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan) went 6/8
Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania) went 2/3
Former Yugoslavia (Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Montenegro) went 2/6, pretty stunning
Central Europe (Hungary, Czech Rep, Slovakia, Poland) went 0/4
Mediterranean (Malta, Albania, Greece, Cyprus, Turkey, Israel) went 5/6
Western Europe (Portugal, Andorra, Belgium, Netherlands, Ireland, Switzerland) went 1/6

mmmm8
05-15-2009, 04:24 PM
Second Semifinal Qualifiers

Azerbaijan
Croatia :shocked:
Ukraine
Lithuania
Denmark :mad:
Moldova
Albania
Estonia
Norway
Greece

No Serbia :(


So sad Serbia didn't get through. They were hilarious, and the song is actually catchy and sort of makes sense. I liked Moldova, didn't really care for anyone else, although I'd like Ukraine's boots, too.

The girl from Estonia has crazy glass eyes

elisat
05-15-2009, 05:14 PM
Vamos España! :banana:


Soraya could be disqualified in Eurovision
The channel broadcasted the competition with a one hour delay because of a Master Series tennis match

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/05/15/television/1242347519.html

oohsalmon
05-15-2009, 07:08 PM
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/05/15/television/1242347519.html

Oh wha? That's so stupid of them!

Jay
05-15-2009, 07:13 PM
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/05/15/television/1242347519.html
:(

Togtdyalttai
05-15-2009, 07:14 PM
Oh come on, they're messing up one of the best entries out there for no particular reason.

manolo
05-15-2009, 07:22 PM
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/05/15/television/1242347519.html

:(

When will we know? (Because we all are going to have to change our contest predictions)

oohsalmon
05-15-2009, 07:34 PM
Everyone should enter the contest!

http://www.talkabouttennis.com/forum/showthread.php?p=443929#post443929

As far as Spain goes, if they get DQed (which I can't imagine actually happening), I'll just double who you have behind them. For example, if you have Spain 4th and Moldova 5th, I'll count Moldova as both 4th and 5th.

Togtdyalttai
05-15-2009, 07:36 PM
Double post, much?

oohsalmon
05-15-2009, 07:43 PM
Double post, much?

Hmm? ;)

---

Everybody should come to TATChat at around 11 PM EST tonight for a special Eurovision pre-party! Any questions or opinions you have about Eurovision or the Eurovision contest here on TAT can be discussed!

Jay
05-15-2009, 08:15 PM
Hmm? ;)

Don't lie.

You double posted, then deleted it :p

oohsalmon
05-15-2009, 09:51 PM
Don't lie.

You double posted, then deleted it :p

Hardly think a "hmm" constitutes lying...

Only 14 hours til the show starts! Keep getting those picks in, people!

elisat
05-16-2009, 02:56 AM
:(

When will we know? (Because we all are going to have to change our contest predictions)

Apparently they won't.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/05/15/television/1242385877.html

But isn't it ironic that if this happened, it would be for giving priority to broadcasting a tennis match :rolleyes:

mmmm8
05-16-2009, 07:51 AM
Apparently they won't.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2009/05/15/television/1242385877.html

But isn't it ironic that if this happened, it would be for giving priority to broadcasting a tennis match :rolleyes:

Yes. They better be disqualifying some NBA teams the next time ESPN delays tennis coverage.

oohsalmon
05-16-2009, 09:18 AM
I know you all want to watch Eurovision live when it starts in less than three hours!

You can do so at http://www.eurovision.tv ! Wonderful high quality official stream!

You'll need to download the Octoshape plug-in first, though ( http://www.octoshape.com/plugin/get.asp )

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 09:27 AM
I know you all want to watch Eurovision live when it starts in less than three hours!

You can do so at http://www.eurovision.tv ! Wonderful high quality official stream!

You'll need to download the Octoshape plug-in first, though ( http://www.octoshape.com/plugin/get.asp )

I can't wait!

But just curious, how long does it usually take?

oohsalmon
05-16-2009, 09:29 AM
I can't wait!

But just curious, how long does it usually take?

The show takes about ~2.5 hours, the plug-in takes about a minute :p.

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:05 PM
And the Finale opens with a performance by Cirque de Solei (sp)

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:14 PM
For those watching. After the Cirque de Solei performance, that was last year's winner performing "Believe".

Now first up, is Lithuania!

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:17 PM
Attempting to dress like Matt from American Idol, Lithuania's performance was pretty dull. Ending with the man shooting fire from his hands with "Hope" burning in the background.

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:21 PM
Israel followed with a better performance, Cool little metal bongo/drums were used. But still pretty dull. France up next!

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:25 PM
France was good. Too good for Eurovision though. The lady went on an emotional roller coaster throughout the performance. Ending on an odd little dance to bow motion.

A betting favorite, Sweden is up!

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:29 PM
Sweden's stragetgy is clear. Blind their opposition with absurdly bright white lighting. And deafening the audience with high notes.

Croatia is up.

Anyone else watching?

Scotty
05-16-2009, 12:33 PM
I'm trying to ... just get "loading" ...

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 12:34 PM
Sweden's stragetgy is clear. Blind their opposition with absurdly bright white lighting. And deafening the audience with high notes.

Croatia is up.

Anyone else watching?

I just started. Just in time for Portugal. There goes my lunch.

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:37 PM
After a boring Croatian performance, Portugal kept it up and was pretty dreadful. Their way over-the top bongo drummer was good for a few laughs though. And their singer was on the verge of tears at the end again. LOL

Iceland, a TAT fave, is up!

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:37 PM
I'm trying to ... just get "loading" ...

Try reinstalling octoshape. Or close your browser and restart it.

manolo
05-16-2009, 12:38 PM
just in time for Iceland!!!!

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:39 PM
Being the 7th slow song in a row might hurt Iceland's chance. Especially with Greece up next and them being the first fast song with their manwhore singer. For Iceland's sake, hopefully the order doesn't hurt them too much.

manolo
05-16-2009, 12:41 PM
ouch, Greece is up,I'll switch to Federer - del Potro, see you later!

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 12:41 PM
The lead singer for Iceland has the purest voice in the whole competition.

But yeah, I'm worried the positioning is going to hurt them... Except it might show just how shallow the manwhore/song from Greece is... We'll see.

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:42 PM
Per Twitter: "I think I love the Greece song because it involves a eurodisco beat and thrusting"

Enough to win Eurovision? Possibly.

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:43 PM
Another Twitter gem: "Welcome Greece! Proper unselfconscious eurotrash. Shirts open to navel, eyeliner, awful dancing. This is it!"

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 12:44 PM
Go Armenia! I didn't pick them... But I love them!

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:44 PM
Armenia is up. With a great chance to do well.

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:48 PM
Host country, Russia is up!

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 12:48 PM
Out of curiousity, are all Eurovision entries required to have a key change during the course of the song?

Armenia did well... But too much unison, I think... If I were a judge, I'd be critical of that.

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 12:49 PM
Host country, Russia is up!

Unfortunately, she's probably the weakest singer of the bunch... But it's not a bad tune... I liked the song... But the singer is just, well... I'll stop there.

You have to think that the host country is going to make the top group... But... I don't know...

Scotty
05-16-2009, 12:51 PM
So ... finally get a feed to work, and have to start with Russian chick wailing in some obscure language?
And, was that her made-up to look older on the big screen?

Ooh! Azerbaijan!

Can't believe they're this quick between entries.

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:51 PM
Russia is SO strange. Women singing with big screens behind her of a women proceeding to age throughout the performance.

Russia is going to heavily rely on their bloc voting to do well this year.

manolo
05-16-2009, 12:52 PM
Russia is SO strange. Women singing with big screens behind her of a women proceeding to age throughout the performance.

Russia is going to heavily rely on their bloc voting to do well this year.

My thoughts exactly.
The performance itself wasn't bad, but those images freaked me out.

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 12:54 PM
Is it my imagination or was Russia's production different than what they did in the semis? I don't think it helped them. It was freaky.

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:54 PM
Azerbaijan raising the trashy bar to a new level with those outfits. But their song is so catchy. Great chance for them to do well.

Scotty
05-16-2009, 12:55 PM
LOL @ Graham Norton on Azerbaijan, "It is catchy. I could imagine listening to that ... drunk, stumbling around."

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 12:55 PM
Is it my imagination or was Russia's production different than what they did in the semis? I don't think it helped them. It was freaky.

Host country automatically gets into the finals. So no SF production ever occurred. :p

manolo
05-16-2009, 12:57 PM
I have no idea what the Bosnians are singing, but I'm suddenly depressed...

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 01:00 PM
Host country automatically gets into the finals. So no SF production ever occurred. :p

Ah yes... It was a different production from what I watched on YouTube. In any case, I don't think it did them any favors... But I like the song a lot. I just can't get past the singer.

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 01:01 PM
First break so far. The contest does go through songs rather quickly.

Moldova is up next!

Scotty
05-16-2009, 01:02 PM
Well Moldova is certainly ... Moldovian.

Makes me want to hop around and break plates. I have no idea if that's a Moldovia thing to do or not.

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 01:03 PM
I should have asked this a few days ago...

But is Eurovision supposed to be just plain corny? I mean, is that a DESIRED trait?

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 01:05 PM
These lack of breaks between performances is great. American Idol could learn something from this :p

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 01:07 PM
These lack of breaks between performances is great. American Idol could learn something from this :p

You ain't kidding!

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 01:07 PM
I should have asked this a few days ago...

But is Eurovision supposed to be just plain corny? I mean, is that a DESIRED trait?

I would like to think of it as whoring up votes :p

Scotty
05-16-2009, 01:07 PM
Estonia coming up!

manolo
05-16-2009, 01:07 PM
I turned down the volme for Malta, and I mean, ALL the way down...

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 01:08 PM
I like Malta's voice better than Iceland's. But Iceland had the much better song.

manolo
05-16-2009, 01:11 PM
I really like Estonia: sober performance, good voice, pretty singer, good song...

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 01:11 PM
I turned down the volme for Malta, and I mean, ALL the way down...

Yeah, I really don't understand how that voice has finished so well in recent years... I'm a little mystified by it.

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 01:12 PM
I really like Estonia: sober performance, good voice, pretty singer, good song...

I had them high and then moved them down... Probably a big mistake.

Denmark next... Good time to let the dog out... :cheesy:

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 01:12 PM
Denmark up next. Ugh.

Scotty
05-16-2009, 01:12 PM
Estonia sounded very good. Almost exactly like their studio track.

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 01:16 PM
Thoughts on the German swing???? :cheesy:

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 01:17 PM
OMG. I didn't know anyone could top Greece in manwhoreness. I guess I forgot Germany...

Scotty
05-16-2009, 01:17 PM
WHAT is he wearing?!?

That outfit looks like it was rejected for the C**k Ring Ken Doll.

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 01:17 PM
Thoughts on the German swing???? :cheesy:

Scratch that... The lead singer is wearing aluminum foil... :hyst::hyst::hyst:

manolo
05-16-2009, 01:18 PM
I like Germany, but I think they sound less good without the big band...

Edit: Dita von Teese is on scene, that should help :)

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 01:18 PM
per twitter: "Germany gets slutty in the hope for points!"

So true, so true...

Scotty
05-16-2009, 01:21 PM
Graham Norton is hilarious.

on Germany: "well, the low point of the competition is over"

on Turkey: "it looks like one of the back-up singers didn't show up, and they had to bring the busman on stage instead."

manolo
05-16-2009, 01:21 PM
Too bad, gotta leave now... good luck to everyone!

Tscott415
05-16-2009, 01:22 PM
News Alert: Turkey has kidnapped Shakira and forced her to perform in Eurovision...

dryrunguy
05-16-2009, 01:23 PM
News Alert: Turkey has kidnapped Shakira and forced her to perform in Eurovision...

:hyst::hyst::hyst:

I just love Turkey... I couldn't figure out where to put them, either.

Scotty
05-16-2009, 01:25 PM
Albania's staging looks like a failed art school project.

Scotty
05-16-2009, 01:26 PM
Graham: "if you're seeing those things in your dreams, change your medication."